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there are no doubt about marseille win against dortmund but lyon vs zagreb....
then it would be 1-9..
yea..
go lyon go...
money platini money...
Let me start with underlining what happened in Calciopoli. Moggi from Juventus arranged with referees games. Other managers from other clubs arranged games with referees. The referees then favored teams during games. Some players were also contacted. The plot was finally uncovered when referees were seen making gestures towards coaches and players. The focus? Referees and managers who arranged the business.
Now, I can pass onto Wednesday's incident. Let me first list some of the theories.
Theory 1 : OL arranged the game with the referees of Ajax - Real Madrid (0-3).
Theory 2 : OL arranged their game with Dinamo's team.
Theory 3 : OL Arranged their game with Dinamo's team and arranged the game with the referees of Ajax - Real Madrid (0-3).
Theory 4 : The players of OL and Dinamo themselves arranged the game between them.
Theory 5 : OL's and Dinamo's respective presidents arranged the game between them, with OL's president agreeing to give Dinamo half the prize money they get.
Theory 6 : Dinamo's players had an argument with their coach at half-time and agreed between them to lose heavily and thus get their coach fired.
Theory 7 : Asian or Balkan Mafia arranged the game.
As we see from the above theories, there are no focal points. Many of the theories point to opposite ways of others. This, along with the reasons I used to respond to arguments were the factors that led me to believe that there was no match fixing involved.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/1549/rest-of-europe/2011/12/09/2795797/two-croatian-football-officials-arrested-in-match-fixing
Anyways, thank you for acknowledging our troubles I also hope we get rid of that manaic, there are indications that his end is near. Then my club can be normal again.
P.S. I'm sorry for Ajax, they played some great football this year
n I don't even know what they're saying. Awesome.
And just to remind all the haters; Lyon scored 3 goals against the best defense in Ligue 1 (Toulouse) last weekend, and were close to scoring more...What's so weird in doubling that tally against a team that's even like 3x times weaker than Toulouse, injury crippled, coached badly, and with a man sent off.
And your best arguments are Vida's winking?
I'm sorry, but I hate what you all are doing here, and I see the majority of posters are fans of clubs who aren't in CL anymore (jealousy) and fans of Dinamo Z. who are pissed at everyone and not their team for performing that badly in CL.
On top of that, investigations about this game have come up with nothing. Even if there are more to come, I'm sure it would stay that way. Innocent, until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent.
We, fans of Lyon, are just agitated cos of how much this game tarnishes our image, and most importantly our joy of this victory. And it's not like something was proven, so people have right to talk s**t about our club. It's exactly the opposite, the game has proven to be clean and you still are attacking Olympique Lyonnais for what? For beating Dinamo 7-1 when we needed it the most? It's not our fault Dinamo's players have given up and we certainly don't have money to be fixing game, nor is our president Jean Michel-Aulas crazy enough to risk his beloved team being disqualified from Ligue 1 and the Champions League.
And majority of YOUR arguments are based on "how can Lyon score 7 goals" and Vida's winking. Sorry, but that's bullshit. No one who posts these accusations even knows s**t about Lyon or Dinamo Z (except you I guess). Lyon is one of the top Ligue 1's offensive teams, and even with our best striker, Lisandro, having been injured for more than 2 months...I don't see the impossible in football, espcially not in this case.
I'm not gonna argue anymore, but you all should just chill the f**k out; your arguments are not very strong and you've got like 2 of them.
You're right about the arguing, don't feel like it either. Enjoy your win, but take it respectfully, not by calling everyone s**t. Good luck in the 1/8 finals
P.S. You said no one here knows about Dinamo except me. Well if you knew half of the things I know, you would understand why someone like me would consider match fixing as a possibility, my team has been run by a mobster for the past 10 years, who has been accused of several match fixing scandals and much more. But that doesn't mean that I am personally attacking your club, it has more to do with my own experiences with my club
And I'm not trying to disrespect anyone's clubs, but I'm pissed at how people are so sure of match fixing, this tainting the image of my club...and I see a clear pattern here; mostly fans of clubs who didn't go through the 8th finals or didn't qualify for CL at all, all the while Lyon has been through the CL group stages for 9 consecutive years.
I respect all the clubs, I respect all people, but not the ones who have decided to put dirt on the image of Olympique Lyonnais cos of their jealousy and/or ignorance.
Ajax was losing 0-2 ( the offside goals are human mistakes) at halftime. Suddenly a Lyon team that scored 2 goals in 450 minutes before this match could score 7! times in 30 minutes after this half.This against a side who held Madrid and Ajax at 0-1 and 0-2. First half Lyon was a bit stronger due the (very stupid ) send off and suddenly the second half it was almost like Barcelona played against Shamrock Rovers although Lyon is a just a mediocre team (no offense, they were truelly great few years ago) . Even when only seeing the scoreline without any of the behaviour on the field or the history of Zagreb it would be very suspicious.
I know there won't be lot of evidence and you probably wont be punished but its just very fishy. Just looking at a (before) neutral point of view...
ps Memonick, you're quite the brainiac,,
So when Gomis comes with such a lame excuse you believe him?
Your such a naive person, Aulas said it isnt true, Gomis said it isnt true ...blahdifuckingblah, ever heard of lying?
Corruption, in France, isn't like Italy (Juve 2006). Teams found guilty of cheating would be kicked out of the CL and the Ligue 1. Also, how could we bribe Dinamo and the referees given our financial situation? We would rather have gone into the EL as there we wouldn't have lost money.
I appreciate what you believe, however I think we are seeing this from two points of view.
Just as staged as the match Spain qualified for WC 84, only this one was setup at halftime
ps "many people have said that they don't believe OL haven't cheated." true words ;)
QATAR get to host the world cup because of corruption!! I mean, who wants to play football at 50 degrees celsius desert summer? But FIFA didn't say they got paid by QATAR did they?
Again Blatter was the ONLY choice for president of FIFA. Did he mention how he paid off all the other guys not to run against him? NO.
So when UEFA say there was no cheating in lyon's game by checking online betting (weak) and then they say there will be no further investigation, do you REALLY believe them?
Lyon may not be involved at all...
Or maybe at half time Lyon said they would split the prize money they win from qualification with zagreb. Lyon could use half the money since they are in a financial trouble and Zagreb are run by mafia so yea.
Im not saying thats the case but it seems possible and I believe my eyes more than what uefa tell me. Anyways there is no proof so you are lucky either way. we will see if lyon are really that good in the next game. If so, I will shut my mouth about this forever.
2. You mentioned the game Spain vs Malta. I am going to comment on this in relation to Dinamo - OL as I am myself Maltese. You are right. That game was corrupted. However, on that occasion, there was solid proof. In this game, there was nothing. The Spanish were spotted coming out at half-time with some green liquid on their mouths. They were probably drugged. In this occasion, I don't see anything as strong as that.
3. Zagreb may have cheated, yet I don't know the reason why. What would they have won by losing? We can rule out the bets as they have already been investigated.
platini would u believe him..
of course not...
sorry, that's my opinion.. and i actually love lyon.. always have..
and no, i dont have any evidence, im using my eyes and my brain.
either way, that's my opinion, and i'm pretty sure we'll never really find out.
He also reacted angrily at the accusations of JMA cheating and defended him - as did Bernard Tapie, former OM president.
Source: RMC, Footmercato.net