o ya totally rubbish....since they all dont play on top clubs around the world i dont know why Batista would ever consider playing them?...think about what you say before your post RUBBISH such as you have just posted...

i never even knew you could use the words Zanetti and rubbish on the same sentence.

Apart from "when against Henry in his prime" ;)
I agree though, next this guy will be saying "what happened to the great Argentinian team - dross like Messi are playing?"
The Bolivians defended well.
Very difficult pitch conditions (no grip on turf, ball skidding).
Lapse of concentration on the first goal and they did not take their chances, simple as - sounds like Arsenal lately.
Argentina should play Brazil at the Emirates (their second home - according to ex-Gunner Gilberto)! Proper pitch conditions, Gazidis get snappy, man! Commercial revenue for the Arsenal needs to be improved!
Argentina looked in fine form to me, all they have to do is take the chances - which will always arrive with Messi playing (sensational), and no lapses in concentration at the back. Question: are they World Cup contenders?

you're a moron. burdisso is rubbish. im so happy he no longer plays for inter.

zanetti is a legend and you dont know anything about football if you say that he is rubbish. and notice who OKcomputer supports.

you just named 2 midfielders =/ and 1 defender im pretty sure you just said you're worried about the defense. Benega is the one that messed up. but yes argentinas defense does seem to be struggling to work together. lets hope they wake up, do some work, lets hope the forwards FINISH next game =)

terrible mistake indeed. he miscontrolled the ball. should have cleared it though. No worries mate, Ever Banega is a decent holding midfielder with a great future ahead of him.

Same thing was seen in the World Cup and ppl kept blaming Messi.(nice comments)

completely agree

Would be nice to see Riquelme in this team so Messi could play further up the field and not have to drop back so deep all the time...similar to Xavi at Barca, Riquelme could make those deep, outlet passes so they can use the pace of DiMaria, Tevez, Aguero and Messi and still have options further up the field...I think they will put together some performances, but a guy like Riqueleme would free up space for Messi to be further up the field to run more at back lines instead of the central midfield...also, what about maybe dropping Maschereno back to center back like he does for Barca to sure up that back line if this Banega is supposed to be a solid holding midfielder?

Well Messi has won a Gold Medal and U-20 world cup so far. What has Cristiano done for his country?

^WTF does Cristiano has to do with anything Ahmedical said?! He's comparing him with Maradona, not CR. seriously, enough with just saying, "Yeah, well what about Cristiano?" every time someone talks about Messi. Everyone knows he's better than CR.
Now, Messi seems to get the blame everytime something goes wrong with Argentina, and that's not really fair. You can play really well, but if your other players screw up all your assists, it's not really your fault. People have the right to expect a lot from him at a national level though, he's supposedly the best ever, so you can't blame people for wanting to more of him, especially considering how surreal he is in a Barca jersey. It's kinda unfair that ppl just blame him, it's not 100% his fault, it's a 11 men game after all.
Btw, to answer your question, for his senior national career, CR led Portugal to the Euro final, scoring in the semi-finals. Finishing second in a Euro isn't very easy, since some of the very best teams in the world are European. Imo, second in Euro is much more impressive than an Olympic medal. Just my opinion.
Sorry if I sounded a bit harsh bro, i didn't mean to, it's just people can't just bring up CR every time they have to answer a Messi. I have absolutely nothing but respect and admiration for Messi, but i do agree that a player described as the best ever, has to make something happen for his country. I'm sure it's just a matter of time before Messi does it though.

Well I only came at Ronaldo because hes obviously a Ronaldo fan from his picture. All Ronaldo fans just come and ask the question of what has Messi done for his country. To me second place isn't as good as first place. Plus In the Olympics the greatest countries of the whole world Qualify for the Olympics and Argentina took the Gold. So they act like Messi is supposed to be a one man Army and blame him for Argentina not winning. To me winning something for your country is getting first place because second and third place aren't winners. But your not Harsh and I understand why you would get mad Im just trying to get these Cristiano fan boys to stop trolling.

It's all good man, i understand where you're coming from :) I just get pissed when people just bash on CR, even when he's not in the conversation. I see people call him CRap7 on this forum, which is weird, cause unless one is completely blind, he'd know that CR is not really "crap" lol, look at his club achievements with United, and individual achievements. I don't even like him that much, but it bugs me so much seeing his name being brought up for no reason, or people saying he isn't good. Dw man, there are alwaaays gonna be haters. Anyone with a functioning brain will tell you that Messi's the best in the world atm..
As for the Euro thing, it's just my opinion. I just think Euro cup is much more competitive than Olympics. It's like i'd rather come in second in Champions League than win Europa League.
Cheers man!

none care about the olympics dude. for me, messi hasnt surpassed zidane yet. international achievements are more impressive than what you do for your club imo. but hes only 23, plenty of time to raise the world to their feet at international level.

Calum your a loser buddy go find some friends instead of hating on Messi. Your just mad that hes the greatest in the world Atm when hes 5'7 and 24 years old. For his Club he won too many titles including 3 CL trophies. For his Country a Gold Medal which is the Competition of the greatest teams of every continent of this world Competing for the best country which is a hard competition. He also has a U-20 World Cup. He is 24 not 23 and he still has more titles to look forward to internationally

Bro what are you trying to say???? dont be stupid! Messi does play with all his heart for Argentina how about you watch the game, actually watch what he does! how he dribbles the whole team, has fantastic pass's and opened up for chances for himself to score. just because he didnt make the goal or make goals, just because he didnt assist the goal even though he was the 4th guy to pass if im right. open your eyes idiot dont just look at how many goals he scores. he does so much for Argentina which you obviously dont understand, plus he plays more of a Xavi/Iniesta type of play, hes the one that sets his teammates up, gets it all going. Maradona did amazing but he actually played forward, isnt hte huge playmaker like Messi is for Argentina

SIMPLYGODS im telling you now arguing with this kid is like arguing with a to year old. He has no idea what hes talking about. I have been trying to tell him Messi plays an iniesta Xavi role on the last page but he doesn't get it. Don't waste your time on him I won the argument with him because he has nothing to back what he's saying up. Hes just another troll

yousifsaid you're the f****n troll, stop using the guys name if he has nothing to do with the original statement.

looking at all your comments in this forum you seem to be the official messi dick sucker.

are you talking to me simplygods? hes the best player in the world, he should be able to win games by himself. get out of his arse both of you. watch the game? i watched the full game and he played class. just kinda expect more of him, switch the game up if the rest of your team are playing crap and take it yourself rather than trying to pass it through the box to a player thats going to put it wide. or just power two headers in in the world cup final like zidane.

Poorsporting go f*****g die your an official dick sucker of mine you punkbitch. Stop using my name it has nothing to do with the Original statement. Looking at all your Comments your CalumLUFC's bitch and Messi's skill seems to offend you as well. I don't get it did Messi rape your family or something?

All Messi needs for the national team is a little bit of cocaine ala Maradona so that he can run around like am unstoppable mad-man.

Howells correct me if Im wrong but you seem to be mad about 2008/2009... Just saying and if you watched this game you would know why Messi had an amazing game. Aguero is good but he cost them the game when he could have assisted an easy 2 goals. The guy decides to shoot instead. There is no question about if he is better than Maradona or not because Maradona already said Messi is better than him... Don't get me wrong Maradona is and was one of the greatest but... if he admits Messi is better then he must be.

Howells you are very simple minded. Your judging messi's general talent based on his international play only and ignoring his play for barce. He runs barce, without messi and with the team they have now they wouldnt score half the goals they usually score

well said howells

Howell is an idiot. You expect Messi to do everything by himself? Don't be stupid. Plus it was much easier in Maradona's time.

@YousifSaid, Absolutely not, I'm refering to how everyone thinks the sun shines out of messi's ass despite the fact his is crap in the international stage when he doesn't have barca to help him play. Maybe if you watched a match that doesn't have Messi or Barcelona you would understand what football is about. LOL ya just cause Maradona said he is better, messi must be better. I recon you have NEVER seen Maradona play. Re-read my post, Maradona CHANGED the out come of the game, the only reason they wont the world cup was BECAUSE of maradona. I also find if funny you find any excuse to attack other fans (referring to the ronaldo debate above, and CL for me) in order to avoid admitting you have no evidence to support your claim, you have poor argument skills sir.

@Khessler you are an idiot, I said Messi is s**t on Argentina, I never said he wasn't good on Barcelona. He is amazing on Barcelona, but he is s**t on Argenina, thus why he is inferior to Maradona who was class both on Argenina and on Napoli (winning their first scudetto) You sir are ignorant.

@GlennyBoy, no I never said that, I said that all the fan boys should blame messi as well as the whole squad instead of blaming just the squad. The time is not the point, its the impact the player had. Maradona had a much better impact on his team, regardless of how bad they were (ie Napoli) If that is well before your time, I suggest you look at the impact Zidane had on his team, a player who also was far superior to Messi.

Its funny how soon you all forget (or never knew) who the greats are. Funny also how NONE of you are from Argentina, just a bunch of Messi glory boys with no idea what football is about.

It's funny because You sound like a complete Idiot and you don't even to be a fan of a team like Chelsea. The sun does shine out of Messi's ass! He obviosuly changes the whole game and sets up like 10 goal opportunities a game. He starts genius plays I do watch other football. I follow German, Italian, Brazilian, Colombian, Spanish, Some french, Some Turkish, and English football. On International. I watch Every important team on International level.

Anyways you avoided all facts like I said before because you have no idea what your talking about or how to have a football argument because they involve facts. Anyways your acting like Maradona didn't have an amazing team whos team chemistry was 10 times better then the Argentina football team is today because back then National teams didn't consist of players that played in all different leagues of the world their whole careers.

Howell how stupid can you possibly get??? did you not watch the game bro? just because Messi doesnt score you act like hes trash for his country....you dumb ass know nothing about football in that case!!!! he plays more of a Xavi/Iniesta like roll on Argentina so sorry if hes busy assisting, trying to create space, control the ball, how about you play close attention, you'll notice how Messi is the one controlling most of the plays on Argentina. Until you wise up bro i consider you don't post s**t on here ever again especially when you try to trash Messi when he plays for Argentina open your eyes mate, you'll see that he truly is a stud, a star for Argentina whether he scores all the goals or assist's them all. You might as well call Xavi, Iniesta crap for Spain because they don't score everything but they control the midfield, the ball, set up the plays...blah i feel im losing brain cells talking to you idiots...

@Yousif, while you did not disprove anything I said, you did demonstratehow poor your grammar is and demonstrating how much a dunce you are. I dont care how many leagues you watch, fact is you still know dick all about football.

My god your stupidity knows no limits, you say im stupid but dont back up any of your claims. Napoli was hardly the best squad in Serie A (Like Barca is today) back then, yet Maradonna won back to back titles with Napoli as a direct result of his influence. Messi only thrives with Barca. (ie he does dick all in Argentina, refer to last world cup and this tournament). Again refer to Zidane.

Umm they didnt? really? so... your telling me Di Stefano (argentine since you probably didnt know who he was) played in Argentina... oh wait, no he played at madrid. What about Johan Cruyff (dutch), oh... ya thats right he played in Barcelona. You really are one of the most ignorant people I have ever met. What about Maradona... oh ya he played in Napoli NOT ARGENTINA. Ruud Guilit... AC MIlan. Marco Van Basten... AC Milan. So basically your bull s**t claim about national teams not consisting of players from different leagues is utter crap, especially since some of their best players played abroad. I love being right. Go back to 'watching' all your leagues.

Again what part of Argentina are you from? Or Barcelona? Oh... thats right, you arent, you are just another messi fan boy glory hunter. Jog on mate.

@simplygods not nearly as retarded as you 'bro'. Again to reiterate thepoint I am saying before all you messi fan boys start crying all the time. I started off by simply stating, he was not as good as maradona (or any of the greats) because Maradona played well both for club and country. Messi continuously underperforms at international level. I never said any of the s**t you said, you just put words in my mouth because GOD FORBID any one criticize the great messi. Before you go on your self glorifying rant attacking me, maybe you should read what I actually said. Muppet. Btw how many bloody clubs do u support you glory hunter?

Howells way to use your f*****g dictionary big guy. Your still dumber then a rock. You failed again to back your arguments and decided to throw random facts at me that a 2 year old knows. Nvm though because I don't want to get any dumber I won this argument ages ago. You have no idea what your talking about and your Just another Messi hater. Hate on him all you want because you'll be behind your computer when hes busy being the Worlds best. So jog on fuckface and Im not your mate.

Howell please explain how he doesn't perform? honestly how does he not perform? he has pure class just the way the team is structured is really hurting him, making him look bad just because his teammates cant put a damn ball in the back of the net. He's given them so many chances, even tried a few himself. its not even his fault, he controls the ball, the way Argentina works, he doesn't have the opportunity to play like Maradona because hes getting screwed over by Batistas s**t ass tactics =/ I just hate how people such as yourself jump to the conclusion that he doesn't perform just because he didn't score...come on bro be real there are so many different roles players can play, Messi is stuck being the Xavi/Iniesta of Argentina.

Colombia. HA. HA. HA. fuckers.

ur name say it