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Some good news, everyone!

Our U19s, coached by Guti, have just won the treble for the first time ever. This includes the Copa del Rey + Copa de Campeones + league group winners.

The future is bright for our team, it's hard to not be optimistic about this team's future.

Also an Eid Mubarak to all my Madridistas celebrating. :)
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As long as we continue this smart buying and promoting policy, we're on a good track. Notice how the second Perez stopped buying just star names, and actually going for player that are necessary for our team, we started winning trophies right away.

Also we keep getting these insanely good young player before anybody notices them, like Varane, Casemiro, Asensio and now probably Vallejo.
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Modric is being investigated for perjury. He changed his testimony to help his "friend" Mamic, a rich bastard who helped Modric as a young player but who also controls a lot of Croatian football and is widely hated.

Why, Luka, why? I hate these corrupt figures who often control football in countries where there is a lot of potential. I don't blame Croatian fans for being angry.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/luka-modric-real-madrid-zdravko-mamic-trial-court-case-a7790026.html?amp
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I get that Madrid had a better season than us but are they trying to be better criminals too? Lol. First Benzema then Ronaldo and now Modric and Mou.

Modric is one player from Madrid that I love so I hope he figures it out
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Why all the sudden people that involve with Spain having tax problem?
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This doesn't have much to do with Spain or taxes, but I see your point. Di Maria also accepted a 1 year prison sentence and a fine the other day for taxes during his time at Madrid.

Man, these players need better accountants lol. I have no sympathy whatsoever for rich people not paying their share of taxes, whether they knew or not is a whole other issue that the courts decide.
Maybe Modric's family in Croatia was threatened? I read this Mamic guy is like a Mafia boss or something so there's a possibility that Modric was blackmailed into lying. Thats probably why he flipped his testimony. Hard to see any other angle on why he did that.

Hope Modric can sort this out before pre-season starts.

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The sudden timing of all the legal issues is suspect to me.
It smells
Why are all these players and even Mou being investigated/charges? None of them are Spanish nationals

Many of them are not been their whole lives in Spain, Mou for example has been a manager in atleast 4 countries.. why the f**k would be only choose his 3 years in Spain to evade tax?

I think many players in the future will think long about making a move to la liga
Will think long about making a move to La Liga lol. How about pay your taxes and stop doing sketchy s**t. There are hundreds of foreign players in La Liga who don't have tax issues. The ones that do, well they must have broken some kind of law.

But Vaaz it's funny how now the government is just after players but when it was Messi, oh god he's the biggest criminal in the world, is not the best player because he doesn't pay his taxes hahaha. It's funny how easily people change their minds when it comes to their own s**t.
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Seems to me this all started appearing after Panama Papers were exposed
Regarding the whole Ronaldo tax saga, IMO he is purposefully leaking out this information about him wanting to leave so fans put pressure on the club to help him out with his taxes.

I have no idea if he is innocent or not, but there is usually no smoke without fire. I find what he is doing is to be pretty tasteless. No player is bigger than the club. Not even if you are Ronaldo or Messi. He has enough money to fight this legally without being bitch about it.

With that said, hope all this is bullshit and he stays :-)
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"so fans put pressure on the club to help him out with his taxes."

If he is guilty, Madrid won't be able to help him with his taxes lol.
legal help, political influence, etc.

Perez has big friends @Sanchez
And that would be ok? If Ronaldo is guilty and Perez does something to get him off the hook, you would be fine with that?
Real Madrid has always backed Cristiano. I don't understand what more or why he needs more help and backing from Real Madrid.

It would be nice if Cristiano stays, but if he wants to leave then he needs to sort it out quickly before we sell Morata or James
Asensio with a stunning hat trick! Very impressive talent at such a young age.
Damn, 3 amazing goals. He's probably the U21 team's best player, always a joy to watch.

Spain has some pretty exciting attacking talents, and although I doubt they will be anywhere near the Spain that dominated football a while ago, they are very exciting.

We had 3 players start against Macedonia. Asensio, Llorente, and Vallejo.
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Spain are such a good team at that level. They have a lot of good players. Such an exciting team to watch. They just beat Portugal 3-1. I will be surprised if they don't win it.
If Ronaldo does leave how will Real Madrid go about his send off as 'THE CLUB LEGEND' that he is? That in itself will be extremely dicey.
http://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2017/06/16/5944153e468aeb9d468b462c.html

WTF guys, now I'm starting to believe it as well.
Probably bullsh*t! Although if he leaves, I won't be surprised. After wining 3 UCls with Madrid, what more is left? I think he knows how much Manchester Utd fans love him and they really need a striker badly. I mean a 35 year old Ibrahimvoic was worshiped and loved, imagine if he returned. Utd also have the spending money and he would get a hero's welcome back.

I know its b.s but I can't help but feel that it might be crossing Cr7's mind.
RM has always been his dream team and he just signed a new contract so obviously, he wants to stay at RM. This whole saga about someone close to him saying he wants to leave is just a smoke screen imo. Now everyone is talking about his likely destinations and transfer fee instead of tax fraud. I find it funny since every paper reported the same thing: Ronaldo wants to leave Spain. Someone close to him told us (BBC, Sky, Times etc...). It's so obvious that this was leaked out on purpose. As much as I want CR7 back, it isnt happening.
Oh man, this Ronaldo thing is getting out of hand. He's really upset and sad at the lack of respect and has told someone close to him that he wants to leave Spain.

First of all, I don't thjnk he's going anywhere. There isn't anywhere for him to go, PSG are a waste of air and United is still struggling. If he wants to play for the best team and win trophies, Madrid is his place.

Secondly, does this mean he's upset at Madrid? I think overall, he's generally upset at Spain and the Spanish authorities in general.

Could this be his way of getting a new contract? It would seem likely if not for the tax allegations, which mean he feels he's being targetted unfairly and doesn't feel respected.

I really hope he doesn't leave, it would be a shame. Our team is at a critical point right now, we have a young squad and are winning trophies. Him leaving could setback the entire project.

I think Ronaldo needs to surround himself with better people. His close circle seems to be responsible for a lot of his media and contract shenanigans, the few extra million don't help him as much as they do for his agent in the form of a bonus.
^^Hikman

i have no problem with his decision, but if Ronaldo genuinely wants to go, he should really make it clear to us before we start loosing players

A lot of people have had to compensate for him on the pitch; especially Gareth Bale... before we starts selling james rodriguez, morata or bale and leave our team too weak, let CR7 make it very very clear..

he will always be a Madrid legend no matter what...
As a profesional, he has won everything in spain with Real Madrid...
he could better move to italy and try and do thesame; he is capable. i would consider that if i were him though

But please, we all know this is a shitty reason to leave the club
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Just read he made up his mind 2 mnths ago.
Ronaldo from day 1 has always said that in England he's never been treated the way he's been treated since coming to Spain. I think coupled with that and how this club has off-loaded some of who he considered teammates + friends has not gone down too well with him.
come on dude, this is all bullshit lol. im sure he's upset but he's not going anywhere. he's going to stay, collect his golden ball, and probably sign a new deal.
Its probably not as easy as that SIF
There is a lot of stuff brewing, for example even Pepe one of the best players for many seasons came out and blasted the club handling of issues
Said no one from the club bothered after his rib got broken and just let him run out the contract without any communication. The interview looked like he was really hurt and just managed to step short of abusing the management ....

Ronaldo knows whats going on more than what we know otherwise there wont be so many sources reporting - Marca, BBC, Sky all are saying the same story
So its maybe BS, maybe not.... lets see
I think it's safe to rule out the contract theory, he wouldn't say he wants to leave right after the tax allegations.

Apparently his anger is at the fact that Real Madrid contacted the media and asked to not show Ronaldo in a Madrid jersey when reporting the case, which bothered Ronaldo (?)

Messi made a similar threat of leaving Spain, so I'm not sure he's going anywhere just yet.

Every source that has reported it, including Marca, are getting their info from A Bola, a Portuguese paper. How reliable are they? The entire thing could be bogus.
Read Ronaldo has asked to leave Madrid because of Madrid's perceived non-support towards him in this matter of Tax fraud. Tell me if he does leave wouldn't the allegations come across as being true?
The club came out immediately after the reports about whatever investigation in full support of him so dont know what he can perceive but that they have always supported him and more importantly the fans have taken their love for him to a whole new level so for me this once again boils down to money.
Wtf is this Ronaldo tax bulshit.... Guess the Spanish DA have it for all the players.
Some crap about not paying tax on his media rights, sounds like horse. If proven not guilty Ronaldo must sue these tools for every penny they are worth.
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if he's guilty, he's guilty.. and if he's guilty, he and his people are stupid and greedy like any other filthy rich human being who decides he wants to evade taxes... im broke.. i should be evading taxes ffs!
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at the moment, its just accusations.... i dnt think he's guilty tho.. seems like he and his people are well organized.. and Mendez is his agent and looks to be in charge of everything financial in CR's life.. seems like someone smart enough to know how to save money (loop holes) but not necessarily break any laws. We'll see what happens
If he is guilty, then as charged. But I think the spanish authorities are purposely targeting footballers knowing their income is from multiple sources and using loopholes in the law to throw dirt on the top sportsmen who are not from spain. It all smells too fishy
For a player these are highly damaging, CR7 has always maintained the moral high ground in everything he does off the pitch, and now the allegation is he didnt pay 12m worth of taxes from 2011 to 2014 for media rights. That amount is nothing to him, who earns over 95m a year and well over a billion in his career from Nike deals alone.

They can easily try to settle this matter legally without making a public cry about it.
Infact Ronaldo even tried to settle it sometime ago by paying 9m in some welfare fund.

But looks like the spain government's authorities wants to be on TV after all.
I dont see them even trying to find anyting on a spanish sports personality, always non-spanish players who play there get these kind of BS thrown at them
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always wants to compete with messi in everything.
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the US government doesnt waste time on cases they think they'd lose. I assume spain is similar. if they charged him, they're probably reasonably confident.
^ cause you dont f**k with IRS
Lol @Vaaz, it's funny how you discredit Messi being as the best because of his tax fraud issues which has nothing to do with him being the best. But now that it's on Ronaldo, you make it seem like it's not a big deal and now you're saying they are targeting non Spanish players.

So which is it? Is it the biggest crime in the world and Messi shouldn't be considered as the best or is it not a big deal? Or it's not a big deal if Ronaldo does it but it's the end of the world if Messi does?
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Sanchez> you're pretty much Vaaz in Barcelona shirt, so it's funny when you point out that he's a hypocrite :)
#WeAreAllMessiAndRonaldo
Leefo, never had a conversation with you so...
When Massi's issue came to light, it was not the first player in Barca's stripe, there were a bunch of barca players who were in the same dock.
Now Ronaldo is being singled out at RM for what just appears to be an unfortunate situation where the spanish gov is going after the biggest player for a bit of self promotion for the DA's office.

I dont know what politics are in play here, but it is a sad situation for spanish football where not one local player ever got pulled up but they are making a big cry about Ronaldo, Messi, Suarez, Neymar Alexis Sanchez etc none of whom are spanish.

What Cr7 said is true, no lack of respect..

Lol Bear almost forgot about that one, would be truly funny if RM tweeted that
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If you did the crime, you pay the price. Simple as that. If Ronaldo is guilty then he's guilty just like how Messi was.

But I'm gonna say this again. Messi, Ronaldo don't do their taxes. They have advisors. They are not smart enough to dodge taxes or find loop holes themselves. Are they still responsible? Yes. But the people who do it and who suggest should get punished more.

Look at masche's situation for example. He came out saying that he was advised to do it and he was assured there's nothing wrong with it. If my tax guy who I trust completely came to me and said do this and you will save a s**t load of money. I will do it.
Thats all true, but it reeks of rotten fish, has any spanish player ever been charged? Not remotely..

Messi hired his dad or something, not too sure on the details of that one, but Ronaldo's taxes is done by his agent Mendes and he apparently even has a company just to handle media rights and do taxes
Makes no sense that they would not get it checked by an auditor or other independent persons


This is what Ronaldo means by no respect:
https://twitter.com/HerthaBSC/status/875711421581070338

Some s**t clubs are tweeting about it and making a joke out of it now.
Iniesta, Casillas and Alonso I believe all had to pay a fine for dodgy tax business. But let's just wait and see what happens.
Casillas got a letter to pay up, this is more like a public witch hunt..


Anyways, this is undoubtedly a great occasion for barca fans to come out of hiding from their caves.
Even when their team has mostly been mostly dispatched to pages of history books expect them to be all over RM forum in the next few days ... a bit of cheer in what will be a dreadful few years.. rejoice lol
In what will be a dreadful few years? Lol damn can you also tell me the lottery numbers please!? Didn't know you can tell the future

And you're damn right Barca fans will be all over this s**t especially if its true. You knowhow much s**t we got? Especially from an Arsenal and a particular United fan who were literally bringing Messi's tax cases into football arguments lol.
Also why would the DA have it in for Ronaldo, wouldn't it be prosecutors who are charging him?
Lol oh poor Ronaldo, now the whole country has something against him..
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Seems like Vallejo is coming back to cover for Pepe
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