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Answers to why Barcelona's use of the 433 is more effective than Real's use of it. Is it the front 3 or is it the midfield 3?

If most say it's because of the front 3 then please share your thoughts as to why and likewise if it's because of the midfield 3.
Well its clear their attack is connecting better than ours. Benzema and Bale (lets be honest, other than yesterday's match, Ronaldo has been pretty awful since the new year too) have looked nothing like the 'BBC' we are used too.

I keep telling myself Modric alone won't solve the problem, but he just might.
They work harder than bbc our midfield lost its balance without modric and james . I honestly would drop benz or bale and play four best mids
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I agree with you Danny, it would give us more stability. We have individual talent, we are missing balance as of now.

Yesterday's game we struggled because of one reason. The midfield was overloaded. Villareal's winger and strikers dropped deep and made it too hard for any of the three midfielders to create something, hence the excessive crossing as a second resort.

At this point seeing how Modric isn't back, I'd drop Bale to a winger and specifically tell him his job is that of a midfielder.

-----Silva-----Kroos-----
Bale------------------Isco
------Benz----Ronaldo

Ideally you would have James where Bale is, and have him move to striker possibly in space of Benz.

Once Modric is back a lot of our problems will get solved, Modric thrives in those tight spaces to create chances from deep.
i think its front 3...MSN are working really well together especially suarez..he is a clever player and knows how to play according to others strengths...
Coming to Madrid the front 3 are finding it hard to strike balance..one players always looks out of form...first it was Benzema, then Bale and Ronaldo followed by that..now Bale is at it again...there is no consistency imo..i am not sure how can Modric solve this problem...
How can a coach have any confidence in his ENTIRE team if he doesn't field a formation that would benefit from the ENTIRE team being fielded at one time or another. He's bound to play the heralded BBC but right now that trio aren't performing as expected. What's painfully obvious that that trio benefitted from the play of Modric, James and Isco. Modric moreso than the others but right now it really doesn't make any sense continuing with this 433 formation without feeling the wrath of the Prez.

Right now with ALL this talk of we're behind the coach, we respect his decisions, we're going to do everything to win the last 2 titles up for grabs. Carlo needs to hold his hands up and honestly say I've made a mistake and we need more "balance". The only way to achieve such is to shelf the 433 formation and bench one of the BBC or play Bale as the extra midfielder.

Many are calling for this change to 442, the only thing is if Carlo's able to do so it would say that his 433 system at Madrid with our current lineup was a bump in the road after Modric's injury.

Let's see how good Carlo is now. He was on the sidelines when they made their feelings known and he obviously reads the news so let's see what he comes up with against A.Bilbao.
Let me first say that we won't win the La Liga. This team is too inconsistent, plus Carlo isn't a league winning coach. There is a problem with the team, We Real Madrid fans need to realize that Cristiano is no longer the Best player in the team. It's Isco ,and I think Ancelotti needs to understand that the left wing isn't bale's best position , it's either the middle or the right wing.
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Ok..
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So 22 wins in a row represent inconsistency? Alos how did you come to that conclusions about Ronaldo after he was our best player yesterday? Also Bale always plays on the right,it's a rare occasion to see him on the left. Way to much negativity man,we are still top of the league and we have been there for some time now,and we have some core players coming back from injures in next weeks.
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Ancelotti has won Serie A, English Premier League & Ligue 1 titles and is IMO. on his way to winning La Ligua. March 22 will decide it I think. Would you rather win CL or La Liga? Sometimes it comes down to where the focus is.
For me it's always CL over any other competition. The best scenario is to take both titles of course.
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Right now our best players are Carvajal and Marcelo.
Carlo needs to deliver the league title this season. The CL would be a bonus.
Carlo actually has a bad track record of the league, so I do think the league is priority seeing how no one retains the CL anyways.
Di Maria hasn't scored a league goal since October. Only two assists since November. And he's only getting criticized now.
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Can't say I'm surprised,he had those periods in Madrid as well. Oh and,LVG is playing him on the wing,so he's basically wasting his talent. Di Maria is a vary bad winger,and one of a kind CM.
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he was also played as a striker numerous times
LVG screws around with the positions of his players so much...Rooney in Mid, Di Maria as a Striker, Mata on bench...
between matchday 13 and matchday 21 he played 29 minutes of football. his form was interrupted by a long injury layover and he hasnt recovered form since.

he has played 7 league games since he got back from injury and has 3 assists. not great but not horrible either. his form has been patchy but i think he will get his act together soon. he is just starting to get media flak because his hot start bought him some time, his injury bought him some time, but now he's more or less ran out of time in a way.
I was certain that our next match was against Schalke,but looks like Athletico comes first and than that one. Oh boy,that will be a tough one,away from home too. The bright side is Ronaldo's performance in the second half,he was all over the pitch,creating chances. Shame Assenjo had an even better game,or he would have walked out with a hat trick easy.
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Guys the reality is, we played good today. We didn't stumble and we were not defeated. This was a tough game, Villarreal had a solid defense. Much like Athletico Madrid. Those teams they play with us smart, they have no problem defending because to them winning over Real Madrid is the top price, so they do whatever it takes to try to win against us. Even if it means they have to sit and defend from minute 5. Then that's what they do!!

Besides the point, we played exactly the way we've been playing the last seven games. SLow and predictable. We are actually getting good at passing the ball slow (not good), and this is what's hurting us right now. We need to move the ball fast, one-touch pass, basic stuff. With speed we become unpredictable. When we play slow like today, opposing players already got things covered. We are making it easy for them to defend against us. Ancelloti was right.
they play**
can you imagine we went to Camp Nou in 3 weeks time... got absolutely dominated.... had only 20% possession had only 2 shots at goal.. Ronaldo get nutmegged by messi, Bale get nutmegged by Neymar, Pepe get nutmegged by Bravo, Suarez miss sitters, Iker make back to back unbelievable saves, barca hit post 3 times each half, score 2 goals wrongly called offside, Ramos got sent off in the first half and then madrid win the game 0-1 by scoring........................................................................................................................................ a penalty...................................from ronaldo..................fouled by pique.............. outside the box...............on the 88th minute


omg i dont know about you guys but i'd absolutely love it!

if Kim Kardashian's attempt to break the internet failed, this certainly wont lol
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I'd rather my team win a hard fought and well earned game. But that's just my taste.
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Found it hard to follow after Pepe got nutmegged by Bravo. =)
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I'd pay money to watch that game. Only thing I would change is Ronaldo scoring a goal. It would be more interesting if Ronaldo scores an own goal lol
Did you steal the el clasico script that is being sent to RFEF from perez' office?
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^^^Franky


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@Pejvl

LMAO. I miss seeing those memes
What people have to understand is the love shown to Isco isn't because of his great technical ability but that of an attacking player looking to help the team both in attack and defense and for Isco being a small player running up to support the attack and tracking back to help out defensively the crowds home and away will always reward that with their affection, doesn't hurt either he's Spanish.

Now take the other top billed players who aren't at the moment living up to their pay check. Do we honestly expect anything but discontent if Isco's taken off and those who've not performed for the entirety of the match are left on.

Come on now, we aren't all that dumb Carlo!
I think he is a really special talent, his composure on the ball and work rate is extraordinary for someone so young. Not only that but he is a humble young man, what more could you ask for? There a couple of talents in the world that have that special something in them, I've seen in it Hazard, Coutinho, Isco and Bale. I would take Isco in a heartbeat if you guys ever considered selling him.
The audacity to say if they don't like it then sorry. If the fans can see that you're doing shyte then something is wrong with you and your entire coaching staff.

We're not football coaches here but a baby yet to be born hearing the commentary through their mother's stomach watching the match could tell you that the subs you made were utter and complete nonsense.

The subs should have been Kroos, Bale and Benzema.

Chicharito,Jese and Illara come on around the 60th min mark. That way Chicharito would have been the target for all those crosses to NO ONE before, would now have an actual striker who knows how to attack crosses.

Go on Carlo you're doing a fine job of disappointing this team's fans who only want to see them play well, and YOU make subs that actually have some semblance of reasoning behind them.
a bit harsh on King Carlo.
^^ Reality sets in when you're not giving players mins and when the preferred 11 aren't doing it either, one can't expect players who've amassed 10mins total in 20+ games to instantly come on with a min left and win games outright.

Don't know which realm Carlo's from but he's clearly not from this one.

I'm not the only one saying such as the recent struggles have been put down to little to no rotations where bench players come on and aren't on the same page as the preferred 11 and we say they are not good enough to sit on our bench. Seriously isn't that logic/thinking flawed??
To have a chance at winning the game to say I deserve more mins you go and hit a rebound WIDE with the goal wide open.

Thanks Jese and you hold your head in disbelief, it's moments like that that you ask are these guys serious or are they just in it for the prestige of playing for Madrid.

The players of Real Madrid other than CR7, Isco, Ramos, Pepe and Varane have 0 heart. Yes I said it Ramos though he uses his a little too excessively at times.

Why do teams who play Madrid always seem to have more in it to win than Madrid does? Always comes over as Madrid thinks it's always a cake walk that they're obligated to win and not actually work to earn it.

The pass laid onto Bale by CR7 on the platter it(ball) was given as a souvenir to some lucky person walking past the Bernabeau.
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Ya that pass to bale was a gift sent from heaven..I didnt understand why he decided to do first-touch shot on target, he had plenty of space and he was close to the goal, so why first touch?

I would also add Marcelo to that list. Yes I agree with Ramos and also Casillas. Take the Mourinho incident away, erase it from history. Cassilas is our number one player.


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D
W
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61
52
23
75
4
1
20
25
1
59
55
15
70
4
2
19
25
2
54
28
22
50
5
3
17
25
3
53
24
21
45
4
5
16
25
4
46
12
30
42
7
4
14
25
5
45
16
23
39
6
6
13
25
6
41
0
29
29
8
5
12
25
7
32
1
25
26
9
8
8
25
8
32
-4
36
32
11
5
9
25
9
30
-9
31
22
11
6
8
25
10
29
-15
43
28
14
2
9
25
11
27
-8
36
28
10
9
6
25
12
27
-9
34
25
12
6
7
25
13
26
-13
35
22
13
5
7
25
14
25
-18
38
20
12
7
6
25
15
24
-17
39
22
13
6
6
25
16
24
-23
45
22
13
6
6
25
17
22
-27
48
21
13
7
5
25
18
19
-24
40
16
12
10
3
25
19
18
-21
39
18
13
9
3
25
20
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0
0
0
0
0
2
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
3
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
4
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
5
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
6
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
7
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
8
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
9
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
10
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
11
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
12
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
13
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
14
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
15
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
16
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
17
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
18
0
0
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0
0
0
19
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
20
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
21
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
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22

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W
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18
14
2
16
0
0
6
6
1
7
-1
8
7
3
1
2
6
2
5
-4
9
5
3
2
1
6
3
4
-9
14
5
4
1
1
6
4

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