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Rivalry aside, I wish you guys good luck tomorrow and let's show the rest of the world why this is the biggest game in football. May the best team win.
It's today! Barely a few hours from now
Let's cull the cules :p
Well for me it was a late Saturday night :p
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Tomorrow we can essentially end the league title race. Its not conclusive, but IF we take 3 points tomorrow, we are securing a much needed cushion that will allow us to focus on the Champions League.
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i am just hoping we capitalize on the fact that

- we are at home, but i know that will not matter for barca at this stage

- we have bale, is back... and we have alomst a full squad.. missing pepe and varane
Barca is in a bad form lately but this is El Clasico, anything can still happen. I'll be damn happy if we win tomorrow but I'm also ok with a draw.

Check out Barca and their mind games with Neymars' suspension lol. Has not been this exciting since Mourinho left La
Liga
I actually hope Bale stays on the bench, he's been bad this season and lately he's been terrible. Without him ZZ can play with 4 midfielders, he would mess up our chemistry right now. He would be a great sub to have on the bench, no doubt.
pejvl

barca has a really shitty midfield right now; i could be wrong.. but busquet, iniesta and rakitic have been underwhelming all season..

y would we play 4 midfielders when we can attack and terrorize their defense. Bale might not be in his best form... but if we don't put pressure or capitlize on their on their left side (no neymar, weak midfield, and alba who likes to over lap) then we are not taking an obv open chance

so for me.. it should be bale, morata and ronaldo
Exactly because of that. Their midfield is week and we should overwhelm them with Modric, Isco, Miro and Kroos. Remember the first Clasico? On paper their midfield was just a "bad" and we played 4-3-3. Well we lost the midfield battle that day, the front 3 were very cut off from the rest of the team.

Right now Bale is off form and he would just mess up what's been forking for us lately. And I agree, Morata over Benze, but that's never gonna happen...
I hope the players can find their energy reserves and use the momentum to beat Barcelona. Being 6-7-9 points clear from second place would make them sleep better at night and focus more on the CL. I hope Pepe returns for CL semi-final, we need him vs dirty Atletico.
Also, please play Morata vs Barcelona and not Benzema. And Isco for Bale. Maybe put James in too after 60 minutes.
Simeone was close to a total break down last year when we deleted them at CL.

Time for another pathetico beatdown? Going for the 4th time to eliminate them in CL! Let's make Simeone kneel down and cry till he can't take it anymore this time again then send him packing for good. I hear they have a good offer waiting at Inter for him
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Hahaha there would be nothing better than to see him throwing a fit. Hope it happens.
guys playing Atletico in the finals is very much different from playing them in 2 legs. this guys can defend their ass off...
and they one of the dirtiest game players around.

if this was a finals, i honestly will be more confident, but lets keep our fingers crossed
^ Exactly, I give them the advantage coming into this game against you guys.

Not to mention they've lost 2 twice already to you guys and UCl is the only thing going for them this season. They will fight tooth and nail for it. Even worse the 2nd leg is a the Calderon so the 1st leg is a must win for you guys.
"Atleti vs Madrid again"
"how can you have the same draw 4 years in a row and tell me its not rigged"
"the draw is rigged to favor Madrid"
"the balls are heated before the draw"
"again Madrid getting the weakest team"

lol ;)
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I dont think anybody would claim we wanted to draw Bayern this year. My Barca friend was celebrating when we drew them.
though we've been the team to knock them out all 3 times in the last 3 seasons, i'm tired of Atelti lol

The second leg will now be the last Madrid derby ever played in the Calderon... So they will have that motivation in the back of their heads.. we must leave the Bernabeu with a good result and try our best to keep a clean sheet.
Haha yeah me too! They are such a pain to us.
Lol first time in 4 years you guys have had tough fixtures, relax.
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Oh look its the "LOL" guy. Everybody is relax here. And youre salty because we've won the champion's League 2X in 3 years and we might make it 3X in 4 years. I would be jelly too ;)
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Not salty at all actually. You should learn the meaning of salty. Salty is the person who was crying for a week after our game making up bullshit news and citing bullshit media LOL.
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I see you're still salty about that. I guess I touched a nerve by mentioning facts.
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Facts? LOL none of what you said was facts. Please for "facts" sake, show me a legit FIFA article where they demoted the ref?

Going around quoting The Guardian and The Sun who are quoting Marca is not facts. Facts is something real and proven. So again, please show me the facts where the ref was demoted. I got actual quotes from Fifa representatives where they said they can't and won't demote any refs. But your "facts" are correct.
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FIfa isnt the most transparently organisation around
I doubt they would release a report that says they demoted the ref
Better way to find out would be to see if he refs any other game after this
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The mere fact that Fifa representatives responded to the allegations and the german referees association came to his defense is all you need to know about whether there was an investigation. As Vaaz says, Fifa will not tell you what they decided as a matter of public Policy. But the guy definitely wont be refereeing any major games any time soon in my opinion. And didnt the barcelona vs real madrid ref get suspended for 3 games or something for being " too friendly" with barcelona players or something this season?

Anyway just drop it man, stop your sulking, "LOL"ing, nobody wants to argue with you, we got better stuff to talk about.
PSG made an official complaint and then everybody went off like crazy about it. Individual FA's will come in to protect their employees. Imagine barca got one doubtful penalty while you got two clearly bad calls which changed the game. Yet you're talking without any shame. SMH!

The ref was reprimanded for chatting with barca players yet the refs who actually gave shitty decisions didn't. Priorities!
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To be fair Bayern's goal that put the game in overtime in the first place was also offside. So lets keep the facts straight. I know youre despirate to equate the two games. But there was a big difference. In your game all the calls went for barcelona. PSG didnt get a penalty that would have ended the game, then barcelona got 2 penalties. The suarez penalty was given when suarez was diving left and right and should have been red carded, instead, he was rewarded. Most importantly, the ref is said to have said "f*** you" to the PSG players. (I think THIS more than anything is the reason for the complaints, because honest mistakes are made and its only human). But if the ref did in fact display animosity toward one side, then an investigation would be proper.

In our case the ref was making mistakes on both sides. While there were definitive mistakes, most of them were arguable. The ones that were NOT arguable were Bayern's second goal that was offside and put the game in extra time in the first place, 2 corners not given to Real, second goal for Madrid where Ronaldo was clearly offside. Most importantly, the ref didnt display a vendata against Bayern. This is why there is no official complaint against this ref. So yes, there is a difference.

Ps: "barca got one 'doubtful' penalty" really dude?
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Nobody is saying the Real Bayern game's ref is a saint,

But I "LOL"led hard at 1 doubtful penalty.. more like 6 doubtful goals :p
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6 doubtful goals? The salt is strong with this one.

@S2killinit, "But the guy definitely wont be refereeing any major games any time soon in my opinion." So your opinion are facts now LOL!!! Just because you think that, doesn't mean it's true. Oh and again, please show me where the ref said f**k you to the PSG players.

Every PSG player came out saying it wasn't the ref's fault. Even Unai said that. But butthurt Madrid fans are obviously living a different reality.

And oh yeah, FIFA won't come out and say he's suspended but a shady ass paper like Marca will. At least try to not sound so biased.

And it's funny how you put the ref not giving Madrid 2 corners but didn't put the ref giving Bayern a bullshit red card and not giving Casemiro one. Nice try bud. LOL.
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Hey there "LOL" guy. Read the comment again more carefully. For now, I will let you bask in salt water till you turn into a pickle (:
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S2killinit : You might be the biggest homer I've ever seen. All the decisions went against psg? Verratti pulled messi down which was a clear penalty. Of course you didn't think it was. If Javi Martinez and Vidal's red cards are used as a template then Verratti, Meunier and possibly Rabiot should all be red carded for awful tackling especially in the 2nd leg. Oh wait, brutal tackling vs barca is ok as per madrid rules because that's what kept you guys competitive vs barca in the last 10 years. Sorry I forgot the rules.

I love how you equate a fast moving marginal offside with a garbage 1 meter wide offside.

Barca got which other penalty? Do you know what the rules are for bringing down a player in the box the way meunier brought down neymar after he had clearly beat him? Are you under some impression that meunier had to bring down neymar with his feet to be given a pk? Even the people who were commentating and the post match analysis said it was a clear penalty. Its a joke talking to you about these things now.

Didn't display a vendetta? Hahaha Casemiro should have been sent off for his multiple fouls if Martinez and vidal were. FYI, Bayern's goal was marginally offside. 9 out 10 refs will miss it. Why? Because muller shielded the ball and the linesman couldn't have seen where the f**k the ball was. However cr7's 2nd goal was CLEAR. If I go by your logic, the ref had a vendetta against bayern. OMG you're talking about corners?

Vs juventus the ref allowed body murder on the field because of all the s**t that happened vs bayern. I can't believe you're shamelessly talking about refs.

Watch how many fouls were not given:

https://youtu.be/z_8qqDBCOa0

This video doesn't even show the s**t verratti was doing. And you're talking about missed corners LMAO. Just stop!
Lol Lol Lol Franky just leave this guy be. He's delusional and was going nuts after the Barca and PSG games. Then he talks about facts and then says IMO the ref won't ref another game. Lol his opinion are facts don't you understand?
Its important to remember that there is always next year guys. Keep your chins up.
+2
Again? lol

I would much rather play Atleti in the final than over 2 legs. Let's hope the stay true to our ways ... they torment us in the league ,and we kick them out of CL!
+2
I do dread two games back to back against them. They play so dirty. Having said that, Im hopeful. In the 1-1 draw we were clearly the better team. We just had to focus more so we wouldnt concede on a defensive mistake. We also missed a lot of goal opportunities.

The first game will be very important.
Not sure which team Real should prefer to face in the Semi finals...
I think Real vs Monaco would be very entertaining. That being said I wanna see Real vs Juve because I want Atletico or Monaco in the finals.
Its At. Madrid!
I'm putting my money on another Ramos last minute goal.
That would be epic.
I know the game is over and the referee talk might be getting a little repetitive, buuut this is the same guy who sent of Van Persie for shooting the ball after he didn't hear the whistle.

I guess back then, he was doing it by the book and the footballing world was obsessed with Barca, it wasn't his fault apparently.

I'm not saying either Barca or Madrid pay refs btw, s**t happens. Just need to point out the hypocrisy. Obviously he is a terrible referee and should stick to reffing in domestic football.
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What the hell are you talking about? Back then no one thought Van Persie's red card was justified.
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You would be surprised. I remember a number of Barca fans talking about how it was by the book and the correct call, not just one or two fans. Regardless, it goes to show how bad this dude is more than anything lol
+5
forget league games he was so bad should take a break from football
+2
But those are Barca fans Hikmat, we know they are delusional haha
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You remember a number of Barça fans of course. Even barca players walked up to rvp to console him while he was walking out. Rvp was doing s**t all game and he got sent off for something silly. His sending off didn't even make a difference. This is like Trump claiming he saw Muslims celebrating in NJ when the towers came down. Let it go. I know you're feeling guilty because without refs bayern was kicking your ass.
That...Is nothing at all like Trump's claims lol you're not making much sense. Guilty? Trump? Didn't make a difference? Honestly that paragraph is the most incoherent bullshit you've ever said but you've been quite emotional the past few days so I understand.

Bayern was kicking our ass lol okay I could easily say I know you feel bad because Juve kept a clean sheet 2 games in a row. Seriously though, read your comment ^ it doesn't make sense.
Ok let me break it down for you since you can't comprehend simple paragraphs..

In the first sentence I summarized your claim. Then I provided facts for context to show why your claim is bs.

Then I provided an analogy. Trump made a claim which can't be proved. But he can still say it because he saw it. It's one of those "you had to be there" kind of nonsense. If you combine all of the above, it shows barca fans had no reason to gloat about rvp red card or even try to justify it because rvp was useless that game. But you can still claim you saw barca fans (not just one or two) justify it because you saw it somewhere. Nobody saw it except you but it's still true for you. Got it?

As for juve - we weren't expecting to win. So its not like I'd care for your silly content if you made it. You and this other guy have been making excuses and trying really hard to justify madrid's win because hey, if you win with a taint there's always an invisible asterisk next to your win. That's the guilt I'm talking about and its clearly showing. Thanks for playing!
Allow me to put an end to your condescending bullcrap.

Your first sentence didn't really refute my claim, Barca fans consoling RVP's sending off does not mean the fans agree with them. That red card was bs and a LOT of Barca fans supported it.

As to your analogy, well, no. Trump's claim was wrong because there is proof that such a thing didn't happen, I don't remember exactly but the people he claimed celebrated 9/11 turned out to be gathered for something else and a few unreliable media sources circulated it. If you want to, go back in the comments and try finding it but it's there.

As for me feeling guilty, why would I? I would be guilty if I payed the ref or somehow influenced the game lmao. I have maintained that the referee got a lot wrong, but also that he gave Bayern a few calls too. He is a terrible referee and my original post here only restated that. Again, take a break from footytube. These past few days you have been extremely condescending and aggressive for no real reason at all. Take a deep breath and we'll see each other after the Clasico I hope. :)
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Lol Again, comprehension issues. I didn't "refute" your claim with my first sentence I "summarized" it.

Actually, Trump claimed Muslims were celebrating by the 100s (not 1 or 2 ahem sounds familiar?) THAT never happened even as a coincidence. Similarly, your claim didn't happen. Not on FT, not elsewhere because I do frequent a few barca forums.

As for the rest of the crap - I'll ignore it because there's no point discussing what your opinions are. I'm allergic to bs especially from madrid fans who can stripped down for almost every complaint you might have based on your rich history. Lol Its not very difficult if you know your s**t.
Allegri: 'We could've played for a whole day and not conceded'


Ouch!
+12
Hahaha no way, did he actually say that?
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@S2killinit, yup!

http://www.espnfc.us/juventus/story/3107586/juventus-max-allegri-on-barcelona-win-we-couldve-played-for-a-whole-day-and-not-conceded
+2
wow lol. the cohones~

sidenote, i thought cohones was italian, but apparently it's spanish?
+1
hehehe I think its Spanish. Maybe both? Not sure.
all the referee this and that aside. That was an amazing game. Cmon. for Bayern to get it to 2-1 in the Bernabeu. and still fighting back with 10 men. Any other team wouldve cowered and sat back and hopped for PK's (which honestly I wouldve loved to see a defensive display like that) but with the game stretched out so long you can applaud Zidane for keeping Reals tactics sound. watch the entire second half aside from the occasional counter. you guys were pretty much sitting back and conserving energy. very bold move from Zizou that payed off in extra time.

till next time
+12
Amen.
+4
It's just sad seeing those Messi fanboys being more upset than the Bayern fans.
+7
Speaking of Messi, I was watching the game with a barca friend of mine, when messi went down head first i couldnt stop laughing on the slo motion replay. I know its messed up and i would never want any player, especially a great one, to be injured, but it was just too funny at the time. :D

I laughed so hard that he started laughing with me.
Dan, why do you always bring up Barca on the Madrid forum?
+6
Well for one they are one of the most corrupt clubs in the world and they happen to be your rival.
+4
Everyone loves a good joke about the abomination known as Barca lol
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