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http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1452195/real-madrid-boss-jose-mourinho-atletico-lucky-win-copa

I disagree with Mou. Your season is not a failure. You guys put us to the screws, which caused Culés everywhere much grief. Touché.
So now that this season is over(not counting the remaining 2 games) I'm going to give my opinion on every player,fell free to correct me.

CASSILAS- Started this season shake,but still providing us same game saving defending.Then came the whole Mourinho situation and from that on he's only role was to create rumors. 6/10

ADAN- He got his chance when Iker got out of Mou's mind and when he got injured,but he didin't used it well,ending up with a bunch of mistakes and one red card. 2/10

LOPEZ-one of our best signings,saving our season and giving it a chance at one point.Remained solid but he got a little shaken up with all the Iker pressure. 8/10

ARBELOA- what can I say,remained at his last season level witch is good and bad at the same time. Still to slow,always out of position.Expecting a new RB next year. 5/10

NACHO- got some playing time this season,but didn't use it in the best possible way.He proved to us he can only be a bench first team player. 4/10

PEPE- started this season like a raging bull,nobody could pass him.As the season got away he started to lose his stability,making crucial mistakes against Dortmund, eventually falling to the bench and posting some disturbing war with Mou. 6/10

RAMOS- Showed us he's a captain material,and one of the greatest fighters this team has. Also he was great the whole season,leading our defense.Still he has space for improvement,starting with his,sometimes stupid mistakes. 8/10

VARANE- the young star couldn't put his leg wrong this season. Getting his fame against Barca,he continued to play amazingly good.He had a little problem with Drogba but that was all for this young rock in defense. 9/10

CARVALHO- just holding his spot in the team,playing little and showing even less when he got the chance. 2/10

ALBIOL- still not near Madrid's level,to many mistakes and bad decisions make him a constant fear for us. had a few nice matches but that is all.He's loyalty is his biggest strength. 3/10

ESSIEN- I liked him when he was playing at midfield,but he ended up playing most of the season as a bad RB or even a worst LB. Didn't fill the shoes of he's predecessor Lass. 5/10

COENTRAO- improved compared to the last season,proving to be a great defender.Good season or Fabio,playing a lot more that the last year.Still he lacks attacking support for Ronaldo. 7/10

MARCELO- cant say much,started the season like never before,being amazing both defending and even more so attacking.Got injured early and lost the whole season that could have been his best one yet.Sad end for Marcelo this year. 4/10

KHEDIRA- improved a lot this season,ending up securing his starting spot. Defending great,but he lacks a lot in attack.He ended up in a lot scoring chances but missed almost all of them. Sami had a nice season. 7/10

ALONSO- the old geezer showed how important he is for this team,even when he's not playing his best football. Played a lot less than last year but still proved vital at some points.His age is starting to show,but still we need him,with replecment nowhere in sight. 7/10

MODRIC- took his time to adapt,after a very slow and disappointing start. Still undefined with his position,playing as a CM,CAM and RM he struggled to find himself in this system. He seems to be at his best as a CM at he started to show that at the end of the season,setting him self up for a much better next season. 6/10

KAKA- left out for no reason, forgotten by Mou.Remaind one of the most motivated players,but he got to little playing time to show anything. we've seen some of his magic but not even close to old Kaka. 5/10

OZIL- One of the biggest disappointments for me this season. Dropping his stats a lot compare the last 2 years and falling in big games Mesut didn't provided what's expected of him. Created a lot of scoring chances for others,but failed to convert his chances to score. 5/10

DI MARIA- like Pepe,started this season amazingly,get past whoever he wanted.Then he just lost it all.Tying to dribble without effect,crossing the ball to much and shooting wide is pretty much the sum up of his season.Stats have dropped a lot too.Still he's hard work helped us a lot in defense and attack. 6/10

CALLEJON- just disappointing,the player from the last year disapeard,getting us almost nothing this season. When he got the chance he couldn't have used it more badly. 2/10

RONALDO- provided the light when there was none. Scoring like crazy again,assisting as well,showing a lot of passion for the club. never stopped fighting,rounding up another amazing individual season for him. Some of you maybe blame him for not carrying us against Dortmund,but to blame him for that is just wrong. Ronaldo showed up when needed,and never disappeared again. Bravo maestro! 9/10

BENZEMA- this man has lost all of his touch this season.Nervous,out of position,completely lost on the field most of the time. his stats dropping significantly this year,with only assists going up. Benzema had a very bad season, transferring from a striker to more of a CAM player. 3/10

HIGUAIN- as well,one of the worst season for him.Missing a lot like Benzema,but at least scoring more than him. He had limited minutes and that is the only thing that can defend him. To many misses 1on1's,some of them ending up as crucial for this team. 4/10

MORATA- had a hard time finding playing time,and when he got it he played out of position as a winger.Hard to rate so I wont give him any grades.
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WOW... u really do have alot of time in your hand lol. Do you really expect people to read ALL THESE?? lol
Lol. I saw it prior to the game; I knew we were going to loose with all this controversy going on in the club, I knew it was going to be dreadful and it happened..

Its not like we even played bad yesterday, it just that we could absolutely have done better. I knew this is how mouRinho will leave the club.

My problem is mourinho is the best manager I have seen it building a strong bond with his players and this actually helps get the best out of them; so if he could,'t do it with our guys which manager can do it? I doubt ancelotti has that type of relationship with his players
We hit the post MORE times than i can count... plain unlucky. Thats football. We move on.. season is gone.. we await the next.
why does everyone spell "lose" as "loose"
EVERYONE?? u sure? I dont lol
Just got home and watched the game, first half Essien and Khedira were giving me leg cramps.

Second half we were clearly better but unlucky, however we allowed the opposition to get under our skin and add to that Mr. Klos Gomez an absolute farce of an official and bingo.

Someone said it best, this game pretty much summed up our season.

Atletico Madrid was just clearly better at being instigators and that's pretty much all I can say about them, and oh yea Falcaos good.

Things need to change at home and where do we begin?????
Klos Gomes was right in 99% of calls,you cant blame ref always when your team lose.
it's very sad.. but honestly i was quite expecting that, not surprised at all. with our club in shambles and morale very low i would be surprised if atletico madrid still wouldn't have managed to beat us.
Again Benzeman and Higuain dont do anything on big games....Jeez Higuain had a one on one against Borussia and Atletico...and the guy shoots at the goalkeeper..
Benzema had an empty net and hit the post.
Ozil had a 1 on 1 and "hit the keeper", also another 1 on 1 and he "shoots at a defender".


Stop picking on Pipita all the time, Courtois was massive today at times, and Madrid had poor finishing at times.
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Out of the whole Real Madrid squad, I can conclude that Higuain is the most hated player absolutely for no reason..

1. He practically, didn't even play yesterday's game
2. He wasn't the only one who even missed a chance and his opportunity wasn't even as easy as others got and also missed.
3. Benzema lovers just always want a chance to bury higuain so as to make benzema look good.

Like I said before, I can't wait to see higuain in another club; the thinsg I have noticed from madrid fans/supporters;
- they never give players support, encouragement or slightest bit of break.
- they never know what they have till they loose it..

David villa and torres have never been thesame but you'll never see their club fans picking on them like the amount of times higuain has been picked on.

Mate, I don't see any reason whatsoever while you'll call out a player who barely played a game and discriminate him.. He didn't even play during the regulated 90 minutes clock time..
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i agree with you. i really feel bad about how our supporters treat our players especially higuain who has madridismo flowing through his veins.
Are the both of U saying that we the fans should not expect perfection or as close as possible to it from our 2 world class strikers??? For 2 long they've been underperforming and yes not being in the right frame of mind will play a major part but in the end ur not playing for a team from the 3rd division this is REAL MADRID. None of U has any right to say that the fans should not be critical of them both as due to their lack there of it's placed tremendous weight upon the shoulders of CR7 to be the guy to ALWAYS our asses.

When u read any criticsm what ur actually reading is frustration from fans who expect BETTER from players who've not now joined madrid from any youth team but who plays/starts for their respective NATIONAL TEAMS.

I for one has always being very critical of their performances especially when they miss "golden chances" and hence put more pressure on others to help out knowing that to create that chance was a task in itself.

So when U read posts from fans showing their displeasure just know that not everyone is as accomodating as U maybe in accepting poor finishing from highly regarded "world class strikers".
cheer up guys... bayern lost CL final and cup final last year, this ain't even that bad!!
yeah ,but the thing is that bayern are in the CL final this year while Real madrid sre not.... I was really hoping that Real Madrid win the Copa Del Rey.. So I guess there will be no el clasico in the spanish supa copa next year....
how is that suppose to cheer anyone up? lol
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dunno what 2 say lol... at least we didn't lose to barca? too many el clasico's gets redundant anyway. at least, for the future, this may be better for the la liga.

i think we've had worse losses than this, and bayern's losses were worse than this... so we shouldn't feel bad about it, and perhaps we didn't deserve the trophy as much as atletico.

we are the only team to beat bvb, and we didn't lose to barca so we didn't have a bad season!! so just cheer up :)
do guys like zilch get paid on this site?? how does all this work
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There is a creed called the Brotherhood in Footytube. A bunch of guys with white hooded cloaks and hidden blades strapped to their arms. They usually select a 'chosen one' amidst us lesser mortals to represent them on this site.

The reason they don't reveal themselves is because they are currently fighting against an organization known as Abstergo Industries. Nowadays we usually refer to them as FIFA and UEFA.

You didn't hear this from me.

*slowly retreats into the shadows
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I thought Mods don't get paid. If he gets paid then why doesn't all the other mods? I'm confused.
No I don't mate, all voluntary. I suffer from mild insomnia so I'm a little more active than others, prowling the forums at about 3am Australia time.
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zilch you are telling me you dont get paid for the work you are putting. then who is getting paid???
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Haha cheers mate :) Um as far as I know, the site has a financial backer and the only one getting paid for the effort is the site owner. The rest of the mod team and developer team does it all voluntarily. I work a full time job, study IT and check on the site when I can. My job allows a fair amount of time free so it's not too bad lol
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really nice of you ziltch but if this is true then the site owner is a real jackass. you guys should be getting paid. site owner must have earned a fortune he is not paying his employees
We are all volunteers mate, we get asked if we'd like to help moderate the website.

We carry on as normal browsing the forums only now if we someone acting out of line or that is doing something we don't agree with we can act on it to help for the better of the site.

Do you think you should get paid for contributing to footytube?

We get to use the site for the reason we found it in the first place plus we get to help keep it clean from trolls and problem users to make it a better place for you guys too.

It's a pleasure to do so, not a job ;)
Lets not be too hasty GreatScot, I could do with some spendin cash :D

On a serious note, it is voluntary which means I help out when I can but don't get in trouble for being absent. We all enjoy the site and take it upon ourselves to make it a better place for every user. And thanks for the comments mate, it's nice when we're appreciated :)
I'm going to say something that will upset everyone here. I just want to say in advance feel free to disagree with me but do not insult me.

Okay, here goes nothing...


We do not deserve to have Ronaldo. We are not good enough for him. Ronaldo, over the past 3 years, has hit his prime. The past 3 years has been his best years but hes only won one major title. Its sad because over at United they have won 5 titles and made the CL finals twice.

I honestly think if Ronaldo stayed at United, he would have won at least 1 more CL title and at least one more Ballon D'or. Here at Madrid he hasn't won anything big, besides the league title last season, and that has hurt his Ballon D'or chances. I mean if he stayed at United and he won the league title and CL... I'm sure he would have won a Ballon D'or.

With all due respect, I think its best for Ronaldo's career to leave us and go to United. With a new manager god knows how long it will take us to win another major title.

Over at United he is loved but for some reason over here he gets criticized for the stupidest things. I remember in his first season here everyone said he doesn't show up in big matches....

Anyways, I wanted to keep this post short and direct.
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you sir have my like. i agree with but i want ronaldo here anyways he wants to be here
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Well, can't say I blame you for saying that. I agree to most of your points except one, even at Utd, there's no way he'd pick up another CL title. Barca in those years thereafter were devastatingly good. And now Bayern has taken up the mettle. I can't see how a Ronaldo equipped Utd could take on these power houses even with SAF's tactics.
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yea i agree mate
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You have every right to give your opinion and you shouldn't worry about people insulting you because that won't be tolerated!

I have to disagree with what you're saying, but I can understand why you say it. Madridista's are a demanding bunch. However, even at United, or anywhere else in the world, he'd have a tough time winning the Balon D'or. Remember that this competition has become a popularity contest to an extent. Pedro Pinto, for example, confessed that he knew some journalists who voted (player of the year) for Messi because they liked Messi better, and not because of the football.

Ronaldo is misperceived to be some 'bad guy' when compared to Messi and this puts him at a disadvantage especially when being voted by captains and managers from leagues and nations who aren't really exposed to football the same way.

So no, this may sound cruel, but the reality is that he'd have a hard time winning it anywhere he played.
I would agree that at Utd he had more help but to say he'd have won another ballon d'or or UCL is asking a lot in that Barcelona is still Barcelona and Barca did defeat Utd 2X with and without him. Truth is CR7 needs help he's no longer at the stage where he's a 1 man wrecking show, he needs help and to be honest this season he had little to no help at all. Had our team actually played as a team when it truly mattered we'd have done a lot better over these 4 yrs he's been here. I would hate to see him leave but to go back to Utd would only allow him to win EPL without any true challenge to UTD. If a team can win a league title without a midfield then how much opposition does that team really face in their league???

R.Madrid let him down and it's up to the board and teammates to look towards next season as one to tweak and not rebuild. We can do it but I strongly believe that too much in-house issues got the better of our team's objectives.

What has me puzzled is how did we ran all over BVB at home and yet against a team that hasn't beat us in over 10yrs we lost!!!!!
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@White.
Many people said if Madrid beat Baryern and won the CL Ronaldo would have won the Ballon D'or because he would have done the double (La Liga being the other title) anyways, I do agree that Ronaldo is seen as the bad guy in the eyes of the media but if he won a double with United I'm sure he would have won Ballon D'or.

@Pedmar
This United side with RVP is really strong....I mean really strong. They ran away with the EPL title without even being all that good! And if that red card hadn't stand we would have most likely been knocked out.

I just think if Ronaldo stayed at United, he would have been a lot more successful.
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But to be fair to Ronaldo's decision, this is his dream club. He's always wanted to play for us, always. Perhaps he isn't winning as many titles as he could possibly have won with United, but at least he's where he's always wanted to be. That should count for something right?
He's with us because we have are the most historic club in europe. He wants to make his own history and he's doing so. Obstacles will always come in the way Realfan220, what your doing is just being pessimistic.

And your words do make me a little mad honestly. No matter what happened this season R.Madrid is still a top club, of course we 'deserve' him.
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Agreed with Poblenou, Real has always been and will be a fantastic club and the squad you have right now is one of the best you can assemble, but sometimes things don't work as planned. Ronaldo is playing fantastic, not alone though, from the goalie up, he gets the support he needs. Don't get hard on yourself, stuff happen and tomorrow the sun will shine again. I don't think anyone who plays for majestic clubs like Real, Barca, MU, Bayern ..etc should really regret his decision, it is a privilege.
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@White I guess so, but its hurting Ronaldo as a player. Yes he's playing for the greatest football club of all time and his childhood team, but hes not winning as much as he can!

@Poblenou, I know it sounds really pessimistic on my part but its how I feel. I get why you feel I'm wrong, but if you look at the amount of hard work he puts in and the little success he's getting its a little upsetting to his fans! :'(
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I would have to agree with Realfan. I have never truly felt that Ronaldo was ever appreciated by the institution of Real like other super-starts were.
God what a game that was today. It really brought out the worst in a few of our guys, Ronaldo and Ozil for example, their behavior was borderline embarassing. Sure it could be seen as emotion to win, but to me it just seemed like they let their frustration get the better of them.
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I hate to admit it but I was disappointed to see Ozil react like that towards the linesman's call. Not just him but a couple of our other players as well. Hopefully the next manager that comes in (if Mourinho leaves) works on behaviour and discipline as Ozil seems more "open" at Madrid than he is with his German compatriots lately.


Primera División Table

Form
PTS
GD
GA
GF
L
D
W
Pl
Pos
91
69
38
107
2
4
29
35
1
81
59
37
96
5
6
25
36
2
72
32
30
62
8
6
22
36
3
59
19
45
64
8
11
16
35
4
59
12
50
62
10
8
17
35
5
54
4
45
49
12
9
15
36
6
52
-2
54
52
13
7
15
35
7
47
5
47
52
14
8
13
35
8
47
-10
52
42
14
8
13
35
9
46
-18
61
43
17
4
14
35
10
44
-4
47
43
13
11
11
35
11
43
-4
50
46
14
10
11
35
12
42
-17
53
36
15
9
11
35
13
41
-21
61
40
16
8
11
35
14
36
-13
42
29
17
9
9
35
15
36
-21
53
32
17
9
9
35
16
34
-18
53
35
19
7
9
35
17
32
-22
66
44
17
11
7
35
18
31
-18
52
34
21
7
8
36
19
29
-32
70
38
20
8
7
35
20
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UEFA Champions League Table

Form
PTS
GD
GA
GF
L
D
W
Pl
Pos
14
6
5
11
0
2
4
6
1
11
6
9
15
1
2
3
6
2
4
-8
16
8
4
1
1
6
3
3
-4
11
7
3
3
0
6
4

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