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Fabergas & Pedro picked over Isco & Saul??? I bet it would be hard to even find a Barca fan that agrees with this. But hey, Portos worst goalie in 10 years made it. For fack sakes Del Bolsque, step down already.
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neither are controversial imo. manager went with experience and continuity.
Saul missing out on the squad is messed up
Last time he went with experience and continuity they lost in the group stages of the world cup.

Spain has a lot of young talent and Del Bosque just doesn't see it. Either that or he keeps thinking the players that won in 2008, 2010, 2012 will somehow magically become good again.
crazy decisions Saul a player who helped his team make it to a CL final vs two players who had a horrific season in their team. If Iker starts it will be a horrible decision for VDB. best Gk in the premier league vs worst gk porto has had in a while it should be a no brainer. its about time VDB moves on from 2010 and thinks about Spanish future of football.

If he repeats his form of the world cup we might be seeing the last of VDB as spanish coach
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Guys wanted to ask, how is kovacic doing at madrid. Did he play a part last season and how much would you value him now?

He played in the beginning of the season quite often. After a really bizarre injury, we saw very little of him until the latter part of the season.

Personally, he's always impressed me. He can be Modric's replacement who is getting older and miraculously managed to stay injury free this season! Rumours are however that clubs are looking at him and he might leave.
Isco didn't make the finale team for Spain, wow. I know he didn't have the best of season,but he was still god and he's a great player. And then PEDRO gets a call up ahead of him,oh come on.

At least Lucas made the team,what a season for him,I wouldn't be surprised if he plays an important role from the bench.
Pedro is a forward though. But what's more shocking is that Saul didn't get a call up. He's had a better season than half of the squad.
Nope... the most shocking is still Gabi, who no matter how many fantastic seasons he has somehow still doesn't get called up by Del Bosque for whatever reason while Bruno and Fabregas do...
Didn't see this post before i posted mine... Utter bull s**t
Modric bringing some high level "beso" for Keylor

http://67.media.tumblr.com/e92c918a8bc4660a56b021f2eaccc757/tumblr_o7xi5hQQfu1un9jt0o2_250.gif
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Sneaky Modric,paying both Keaylor and Marcelo :P
Looks like Madrid will bring back Morata.

What should they do?

Keep him or sell him for a sh*t ton of money?
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I think we should sell him, seeing as he's looking for regular playing time. Then again, with Benzema injured quite often if he wants to stay as a potential backup in a front three with injury prone Benz and Bale, an aging Ronaldo, and Lucas + Jese then by all means, I would take him. He's developed quite nicely in Juventus, tore Bayern apart.

Glad to see you're back btw :)
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Sell unless Jese or Benzema leaves
I heard many saying it's an undeserved win or that RM was lucky to win it.

I personally think you were playing against a really good Atletico side and that you had more that luck on your side. I mean it's a kind of love story between RM and the CL. 11 times. Man it will be really hard to catch you. Your team and reputation is build for that kind of competition. When i saw Ramos lifting that trophy it was kind normal for me. Sometimes you cannot explain it but it's like that. Some teams have this x factor with them which makes the difference.

To make it short congratulations again and it was well deserved.
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None questioned Barca's vic over Bayern despite the crucial absences Bayern had that would have surely put the Barca's defense under more pressure they endured. nothing saying the outcome wouldn't have been the same but yet Barca's UCL vic last season was lauded as it was their first one was. So don't entertain ass and enjoy the vic if you're a fan and if you're not who cares!!!
^ Lol What does Barca have to do with this?
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The reason why people are saying Madrid didn't deserve it is because its Real Madrid. People expect flawless performances from the very best teams from start to finish and Madrid had a number of hiccups along the way but still made it to the end. Even if Atleti were struggling, people would support but with madrid being Madrid, people expected more. At the end like Cr7 said, Real showed that they had more experience which played in their favor during the Pks.
They are the same people who say that Atleti were ROBBED in 2014. If you ask them to define robbed, then you'll see that their definition of robbed is very different from the normal one.
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^ Moe: You're making it sound like people are saying it just because of hatred and jealousy of madrid's success. Madrid had a tight game with atletico last time as well but nobody said they didn't deserve it then. Why? Madrid's path to the final this time was pure luck not to mention the offside and missed penalty. Last time around they annihilated Bayern on the way and were clearly the best team in europe at that moment. Every body knows you're not going to have a goalfest vs atletico. So again there is no expectation for madrid to run up the score. But the way they played was just not like a top team. Its being said not just because of the final. Its because of the season. In 2012 Chelsea were under an interim manager with a rubbish team. So they parked the bus all the way to the title including somehow beating barca. Porto winning the ucl was downright ugly. Inter didn't exactly play pretty. So its not necessary to play stylish football to win a title but then these teams didn't have the most expensive players money can buy and they beat the best on the way.

I don't see Zidane lasting too long at madrid if this is how he manages. As brilliant as he was as a player, he's average when it comes to managing at least until now. Atletico actually played an open game and Zidane chose to make cr7 play at RB. Madrid has played 3 big teams since he took over. Zidane has gone defensive against all of them including city, who have no defense so to speak. There is nothing wrong with playing tight defense but if you have bale and cr7 supported by kroos, modric and james/isco on the bench, you have no excuse to sit around. Madrid has parked the bus vs Barça in the past as well but this time it felt like Zidane came in for a draw. With city, they were clearly the better team but what were they doing winning a two game tie off a deflected goal?

As a rival fan, if madrid as a club believes this team is good enough to win trophies next year under Zidane, its fantastic. Unless Zidane was just being conservative and he has some new tricks in the bag which he will unveil after summer I'll be more than happy to see madrid play like this next year.
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@Franky4fingers

Zidane couldn't do his job better IMO. He inherited a completely sick and demotivated team and in the end he won the UCL with them and stranded one point from Barca. How could he have done better? He won deservingly against Barcelona (at that moment the best team in the world) and against Atletico, although not in the prettiest of ways. If you want to play nice offensive football you first have to get your defense tight and control the game. It takes some time to get your attacking play right. I'm sure that under Zidane we'll play much more fluently football than this year, but again it takes time.
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Zizou: There is no doubt that winning the champions league is a big deal. The discussion here was why are people saying they Madrid didn't deserve it? It obviously a subjective idea and has no real meaning especially for the victors. But to say that it is purely out of hatred or jealousy is being short sighted. Di Matteo also won the Champions league with a team that was sick and much less talented. Like I said before there is no requirement to win anything with style.

The jury is still out on Zidane and it is unfair to judge him in such a short period of time. The point I was making is Zidane has not shown much tactical ability until now to manage a club like Madrid at this level. He is a better man manager than Benitez but lets be honest, Benitez wasn't really allowed by Perez nor his team to play the way he likes his teams to play. Zidane might just show a different side of his managing abilities next season and prove me wrong. So lets see where he goes next year with this team. I personally don't see him lasting too long based on his previous work with the Castilla team and the way he has managed the team until now. Madridistas will enjoy the 11th win for a while until they start looking at the team and going, "I really don't want my team to park the bus after going one up." You guys know better than anyone that at Madrid winning the UCL or the league isn't enough to keep your job.
To compare us with Chelsea under Di Matteo is unrealistic IMO. Chelsea had a bunch of luck against Barca and Bayern. Whereas our season can't be explained by luck. BTW Some of our games were won with beautiful football like the game against Sevilla (Europa league winners). Also Barca didn't find a whole through our defense and neither did Atletico, while we had most chances in both games. On top of that Zidane was the first manager who saw that the only way to beat Atletico is to play them with their own tactics.
Chelsea did have luck. But you didn't? Come on mate. With the draws? What about the finals? Bayern was the stronger team between them and Chelsea so Chelsea had to park the bus. Bayern missed a penalty but Chelsea actually scored a goal. Atleti missed a penalty. And you scored an offside goal. There's this false narrative with the shots and chances created. Madrid takes the most number of shots in the world. A useless shot from distance which lands in the gks hands is a shot on target and a created chance. Cr7 and bale kept taking shots when there was no chance. You play to win and in the end Zidane prevailed but the man has no ideas. Whenever he faces a tough side he pulls his men back. Atletico isn't a strong attacking side so they couldn't capitalize. You really think its an achievement to create a chance or two when atletico is fully committed to attack?

Watch city's games vs madrid. City had no structure and had gaping holes everywhere. Yet Zidane couldn't find a way through. The only thing I can agree with you is Zidane could do something new next season and get his offense going vs bigger teams. From current performance I can't see how he'll dramatically develop tactical genius. But it's just an opinion so who cares.
" I dont know who this started with"---Arbeloa, as the Bernabeu fans laughed.

Oh Arbie we goin miss you.

Reports are Carvajal is out of the Euros, sad moment for a great player speedy recovery Carvie.
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Vazquez > Marcelo > Bale > Ramos > Cristiano

I didn't see this coming from Zidane. Such confidence and total trust on Vazquez to start the penalty shootout. Not really sure what to make of that but for Zidane to place the least experience player on the team out for first blood in penalty is truly one of the ballsiest decision from Zidane. Not even Simeone had the balls to place young Carrasco on the first 5 penalty takers. Truly amazing!
I doubt Zidane chose who would take the first penalty. in moments like these u want your players to step up on their own... the players know whether or not he is confident, not the coach.

im also sure Griezmann chose to take the first penalty despite missing one during the match. If it were up to the manager, im sure he would have chosen Torres.
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This is Real Madrid boyz those penalties were practised quite a few times leading up to the game and its incumbent on the training staff to apply different scenarios to the practice, Zizou has been using Vasquez as his first relief sub for a good stretch so he knew if it was going to go to penalties it would have been more then likely that Lucas would have been on the pitch. And I think he showed in practice that he is cool and consistent in his shots.
Zidane did chose the order. Cristiano said in an interview that he asked Zidane to take the 5th spot because he envisioned that he was gonna score the winner.
Just re-watched the game. Pepe in ultra beast mode. Capping off what has been a great year for him.

Too bad no one will ever talk about it. His extra curricular shenanigans ensures no one will ever talk about what he is which is one of the best CBs in the game.
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Pepe played well, but I am appalled at the antics he does.. He needs to stop rolling on the pitch for every single thing.
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He won't stop lol

I rather think that he does these antics to provoke and trigger his opponents. Pepe is a legend, always loved that guy
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