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Those 2 are overpaid,they are not worth 70mil. But looks like Monaco has money to trow away so it's all the same to them.

Has anyone noticed that since the past season many player's price tag has inflated in an uneven way?

I remember not to long ago people were proclaiming James Rodriguez the next Crisatio Ronaldo. Pssssh... good player but waaaaaaaaaaaay over paid. James is now the 9 highest transfer in history. ridiculous!

Well when you possess the coffers we do then its only natural you will get all this transfer speculation, while it is somewhat fun to tinker with ideas and players, it is not the best model for stability.

i agree with you man...our policy is not good for long run and probably not the best policy for the immediate future too....
its just a great way too keep fans intact and thrilled when there is no football...i feel sad if i dont see real madrid news on transfer market when i wake up..it just doesnt feel right...

ya lol. i dont think any other club can buy a 90 million and 65 million euro player in one year.

It's not only that we have the financial resources but the fact that it can be argued that most players would love to play in Real Madrid at least once.

Also because we're known to swap players according to their age and perfomances so we're not known to be a club with an static roster.

That is what excite you as a fan; that madrid relys on transfer market after every season we perform poorly and yet we have not won UCL in years...


Other teams are busy adding vital players and building their youth team strongly to compete on higher grounds and here are our fans having fun in the transfer market..

Generally, I don't think our squad is faulty but we just need our players to wake up and play every game with strong determination and willingness and play every game like it's the most important.. That is what cost us the league; we beat barcelona but can't defeat the other lower teams.

Yes, we actually need to make some addiions especially in the) and DM but asides that we don't necessarily need a big money transfer

The secret to doing well is playing together consistently
-playing as a team not as individuals trying to pose their ego
-removing all the bad bloods and trouble makers I.e liKe Capello did with the galactico. It worked.


Real madrid already looks like walking down the bad road and the trransfer market can not save us

Like it. Only thing you could change is Isco/Di Maria and Cavani/Benzema. That way Isco will be competition for Di Maria and bring out the best in him. Same with Benz hopefully.

I feel the same way. I just like putting the one name there because it looks nicer.

Subs:
------------Kondogbia........Xabi---------------
....Maria....................Kaka..................Jese
----------------------Benzema----------------------

I like that!

how can isco play on the wing??? i would put dimaria there. and isco as ozil sub

Isco is accustomed to drift inside and outside on the wing and centrally, I can see him and Ozil having the ability to roam and switch positions. As for DiMaria I am almost 100% sure that Isco is much more productive and efficient then DiMaria even if it is not his natural position to start from.

@Hunsijoo How? By walking over to the right side of the pitch. As along as Kaka or Ozil is playing in the center, Isco will be effective playing on the right side. Isco will have support and will be able to link up with Ozil well. Our attacking players interchange positions anyway. its what makes us dynamic going forward. It will be beautiful to watch.

i dont really wanna get into this topic.. but dont' you guys think you are over rating a kid who has only had one decent season so far? ( Decent.. not even spectacular).

i dont wanna hate on him or anything, in fact i've been impressed with him and he is very promising but no one has any idea whether he has what it takes to play for Real Madrid and we are already saying he will be more productive and efficient than di maria... in that case, its easy to say that someone like jese will be as productive as CR7... Isco doesn't work nearly as hard as di maria to back track and mark the opposition.. in fact, very few other forwards work as much as him.

would be nice seeing a player like isco in madrid ( even though he likes barca) but i think its way too soon to state that he will be part of the starting line up.... i know Di Maria has this idiotic thing where he keeps crossing the ball over and over again instead of just keeping possession and working together with the other mids to create goal scoring chances but for a good time now its been clear that too many madrid supporters dont appreciate Di Maria nearly enough...

Isco going back to before he was at Malaga while at Valencia had one of the highest successful dribbling ratios in the league, couple that with the fact that he can single handedly manufacture goal scoring opportunities using his outstanding positional intelligence and more then all this he has proven he can finish chances not only pass and dribble, that's why I think we need him, we have to return to spreading our goal scoring and manufacturing over as many players as we can and not just depend on CR7 for that.

And the final key to Isco is he can play on the right, center and left up front and a more deep lying position if needed lets see DiMaria do that.

@DaGaza I'm sick and tired of people using Di Maria's work rate to justify his inefficiency. Is that good enough for you? This Real Madrid damn it!

@Jigsawwill spot on on your last comment...
i think all higs/benz/di maria/ are very good player but just not quite good enough for real madrid....
everyone loves higuain but its best for both parties if he leaves madrid and shine somewhere else..he will prob be better at arsenal than juventus..
Di maria turns out be most importnat player in important games, but its Real madrid..we need more than that....
Benzema is extremely talented, and a great player to have on the team...but i dont want him to end up like higuain, who we love a lot but also know deep down that he is better off somewhere else...we need a striker that can push benzema to his best or sends him outside madrid...

ok, well ill leave it at that guys... wasn't really speaking on di maria but mostly on isco being rated a little too highly by us at the moment... lets wait and see what happens...

lets sign santiago munez...jk

I feel you guys are underrating Di Maria again.
Neither Isco or Bale are better than him so stop taking Di Maria out of your imaginary formations.
Wether you dislike Di Maria because he attempts individual plays is a different thing than saying he's not top quality in our club.

all i ask is if players like di maria, higuain and benzema are not good enough for a team like Real Madrid, then who on earth is?

i remember that according to the fans, sneidjer and robben were not good enough for Real Madrid... i wonder how that turned out...

The man needs competition, he needs to know that his spot isn't guaranteed. Is there anything wrong with that?

Theres not anything wrong with that it's just that it doesn't matter that Di Maria's effectivity isnt that great because in the end it's the result that counts not random trivial statistics.
Let me put it like this, lets say whatever winger attempts dribble btw 2-3 players and cross the ball 4 times in game.
Di Maria will attempt to do it 10 times, that right there is an advantage because it's creating havoc in the other team trying to stop him.
In the end Di Maria and other wingers have both 1 assist.

Losing posession you say? We don't even do anything with possesion thats why Di Maria is perfect for us, he tracks back the ball too.
Because his dribbling is superior to most top players in the world.

Back to Isco though I think Isco current rating is about right he's a young spanish player on the rise both as a football player and as a football icon, and being home for potential players of "La Roja"(Spain National Team) benefits Real Madrid's image towards anyone.
So I think we should go for him but don't be dissapointed if the kid isn't getting the call above Di Maria for the right wing.

"Di Maria's effectivity isnt that great because in the end it's the result that counts not random trivial statistics."

I would argue that Di Maria ineffectiveness has lead to bad results.

Called it.

dude is about to get a deal which will make him a epl poster boy...if he comes here he will be under ronaldo's shadow..
time for him to decide one epl poster boy and one more shot at champions league qualification, or time to test yourself and come to madrid....

He will be making a s**t load of money next year if he stays in the EPL. They are about to sell him as the face of the Prem, he aint going no where. Can we please stop talking about him? lol

Yes it looks like Coentrao is on his way out. Madrid seems to think having Nacho, Arbeloa and Marcelo is good enough.

Also Diego Lopez is on his was out too.

Diego Lopez goes we will be losing more than a keeper. if we sign Carvajal then we should be ok. but really if lopez goes i would lose any respect for perez

In fairness, if Perez wants to reinstate Casillas regardless of Lopez's performance, then it'd be best if Lopez left to where he would be loved. That would be a massively stupid move on our part, but whatever. If keeping Casillas on the field matters so much to Madrid, then I wish Lopez all the best elsewhere, and hope he comes back to haunt us.

As for Coentrao, solid LB and we get rid of him. How typical of Madrid. Just like Sneijder before. I'm sick and tired of all this nonsense.

i m sick of all this. its like seeing the team get destroyed. if all these players leave we would have to buy 10 new players

^That's fine by me, no player is bigger than the club. Its whether the management has the foresight to replace these players adequately, but something has to be made clear. No one, no manager, no player, no coach, no manager, no president, no legend, no fan is bigger than the club. It's just a matter of adequate replacing. Something of a concept our management lacks.

Looking back in time, the management failed to replace Makelele, followed by Salgado, then Hierro, and most recently, Sneijder. It always takes the management one season to realise their mistakes. That is the only reason why I fear the sale of these players. If our management had better foresight, I'd just say sell every damn player in our first team. But that lack of foresight makes me hold back on saying that.

i am expecting us to win la liga next season if many players leave

^Not exactly mate, with Perez's wild purchases, it could go anywhere. For all you know, if Perez starts buying players without a manager around, we'll drop to third next season. It does not appear that our Madrid board have any concept about defensive players. If they keep buying offensive players, we might as well leave them an open goal.

My guess is that Perez never really wanted him.

lopez has too much talent to be just our second choice keeper...as a respect for his talent i want him to be some clubs main choice keeper..but if he wants to stay we should keep him, we cant find anyone like him to be our backup keeper..
P.S thanks for everything this season señor Lopez

No player is bigger than the team, except Casilas and Ramos and every one with an ego in the locker room. Real Madrid logic...

Or we can choose not to sign Bale, and loan Jese out to a Bundesliga side like Leverkusen. We can use those fees on players we really need like Carvajal and a DM.

And since the rumored talks between Malaga and Real Madrid are legit, we can use that to sign Isco (perhaps offering Callejon or Morata to lessen his transfer fee too).

That way we get 3 players, at the very least, that will build the squad further and strengthen it as well, rather than signing just a single player for 50 million + one of our own.

And you're right, it is very crucial to have Jese get as much minutes as he can. This is critical period for a young footballer and we shouldn't stun his development but look to enrich his potential. Loaning him to a good Bundesliga side in need of a winger would be the best option.

@white. i dont understand if isco is the right transfer. he will never get any time on the pitch. ozil will always play. whats the point of spending so much money on a substitute.

and talking about fees is pretty stupid. madrid's board obviously dont have problems spending money on who ever they want. i would rather have bale and Carvajal then benched isco and Carvajal.
and yes jese should be loaned to which ever team he gets 90 mins action

My concerns with transfer fees is related to my dislike of the old Galactico policy so I hope you can excuse me on that one.

As for Isco, I'm very well aware that his future isn't 100% rosy if he signs for us. He can play on either wing, and I was hoping he'd eventually replace Di Maria, but it is clear that he's more of a play maker than a winger, and I'm sure that's where he'll be wanting to play. That's when a potential problem occurs because Ozil is quite good at what he does, even when he's not playing to his expectations. This leaves Isco as a potential fringe player, similar to Canales, but of course better.

Spending 30 million on a player who'll be used as a substitute isn't exactly my idea of 'money well spent' either. So why do I want him you ask? Because I have a soft spot for him. I like the way he plays from his decision making, down to his rapid, yet somewhat elegant, movements. Also because something in me tells me that it is possible to have a front line of,

....Isco.....Ozil.....Ronaldo......

.............Benzema............

So yes, we're taking a risk with him, but perhaps a risk worth taking? Regardless, the transfers I'm more interested in are Carvajal and a DM that matches my preferences.

Jese needs to be loaned outside of Spain though, that way his value will go up.
I would prefer not go for Bale as I see he will not play over Di Maria or Ozil unless these drop form.
Isco is the right move if we can sign him for a reasonable fee.

@white your formation will never workout. we need a wide a wide player like di maria. the reason because ronaldo tends to drift in the middle. and when he does player like marcelo takes the wide spot so our formation remains wide. now isco is a player who obviously will drift in the middle. if he does we will lose our width.

white there really is no place for isco. unless you want another 40 million substitute.

who do you want in DM??

@Hunjisoo

Exactly why I said 'hope' because I had doubts myself. Regardless of the fact that Isco is more of a central-minded player, he'd have a tough time taking Di Maria's position anyway.

But like Vanido said, if we can sign him for a reasonable fee, I think it's worth considering.

As for my preferred DM, I'd like one that is compatible in forming a great partnership with Modric - not a like for like player, but one that is compatible with Modric and compliments him:

- Strong both physically/mentally
- Fast
- Mobile
- High work rate and good stamina
- Decent vision at least
- Decent technical qualities at least
- Good in the air
- Defensively solid, but decent going forward as well
- Good passing as well as good passing range

These are all characteristics that Javi Martinez possesses, but signing him is impossible. Other notable DM's with these qualities are Vidal, Kondogbia, S. Bender, Schweinsteiger, etc.

But I want someone young, down to Earth, humble, and who admires Real Madrid. Will be hard to find, I know.

white i really feel we should not buy anyone above 15million in DM because we already have khederia, alonso and modric. if we buy another player then he should already be notified that he will not be getting much of a play time. we DO NOT have space in our team sheet. or we can sell one player and then buy a really good one.

I don't think 3 CDM's are enough actually, especially if we are going to play in 3 different competitions. We need 4 at least. Reason being is that technically, Modric is Alonso's back-up and vice verca, but what happens when Khedira gets injured? You could obviously play Modric and Alonso together, but that wouldn't adequately compensate for Khedira's absence and we'd be defensively vulnerable as well.

That's why we need another Khedira type player, but one who has the technical qualities that Khedira is lacking. But someone mobile so he can keep up with faster and stronger midfield's.

thats when youth players even get a chance. you want to take that too. white. madrid has has already invested billion euros in this team. investing more would be stupid. 3DM and 1 youth DM is just fine.

Perhaps that's where Casemiro comes in. Actually, it's not such a bad idea. Reports suggest we're looking to sign/promote him too. I'll be happy with Casemiro actually.

Can't believe I forgot about him. Nice. :)

how many players do we have that can truly play on wing

answer to all of your CDM questions. Casemiro.

@AFG

Do not forget that Sahin is technically still our player. Its not like he had his shot here at Madrid. Madrid is overcrowded in the MF region. We never needed to bring in Modric or Sahin had we kept Diarra and Granero. It's illogical purchases like this that makes me doubt Perez's sanity at times, he seems like your typical attacking loving fan, who underestimates the defensive duties massively.

A brief look at our transfer acquisition over the past 15 years reveals that we've not signed as many defensive players as we have offensively, even though defensively we're rubbish.

The idea that a play maker can't operate on the right side of the pitch is ridiculous. So basically this whole time Mou put Ozil out of position you guys thought it was stupid right? Because not many where complaining.

We do not NEED a wide player like Di Maria for god sakes, we need attacking players who are smart, can link up, and know how to run into open space. As long as there is a true CAM playing in that position, who ever is playing on the right will not feel the need to abandon their position and go central.

@Hunsijoo
Players that can actually play on the wing effectively, both going inside or reaching depth: C.Ronaldo, Di Maria, Callejon, Marcelo, Ozil.

Isco can play as winger effectively too, I mean not as an attacking player there but as a support role.

how can isco play on the wing. he will alway drift inside and we will lose the width of our attack. which is very important. there is no way isco will be play on the right

I'm not speculating, I have seen him play he can reach depth and remain as a wide player.

He's a super athlete , if no major injuries don't hold him back I would say for the next 3-4 years

Honestly... I think he might lose some speed and all but he will be a goal scorer till his late late days like inzaghi... His goal scoring ability has very little to do with the physical side of his game... It has a lot more to do with his positioning... His mind works diferently from other wingers out there.

In the end, when he begins to slow down im sure he will become a center forward... As a winger he needs to run and mark a lot... As a cf he will need to work a lot less and his positioning will be vital.. He has everything to be a great cf... But he doesnt enjoy playing there though lol...

Thats because he has so much to offer and the center fwd position is way too limited.

Zlatan Ibrahimović is 31 ans still good. i think we really could play ronaldo as a striker after his 30.

If I remember correctly, Figo managed his football well during his old (relatively) age just fine and he wasn't as physically refined as Ronaldo was.

Dagaza is absolutely right. Positioning is what matters the most. Ronaldo Fenomeno had it till the very end, and so does Cristiano. He might not be Real Madrid material in 6-7 years' time, but he will still deliver 20-30 goals a season.

Like it or not, when a man hits 30, his physical state takes a huge dip. Regardless of who you are, you will always be physically stronger when you're in your late 10s to mid 20s. Ronaldo will definitely lose some speed, perhaps even some muscle.

Ibra was probably a much fitter player in his youth, but right now, his experience is holding him steady. I don't think he could run as much as during his prime. It's a phase of life. Everyone will start dipping once the 30s dawn on us, our bodies will start degenerating, and slowly but surely, we'll be dead. Lol.

I don't think so MWY. in 6 or 7 years Ronaldo will be 35. 35 year olds won't possibly score 20/30 goals in a season. Experience only takes you so far, without physical abilities, Ronaldo won't be hitting those heights.

I see we've sited a few particular players whom had or have (for those still playing) a, more or less, spectacular spell after hitting their 30's. I'm not gonna disagree with anyone but rather try and stretch out some aspects which, I believe, need consideration.

* Players have different characteristics which defines them individually. So relating players abilities without realizing that they hardly ever have the same characteristics would be a mistake.

- Inzaghi: I'd say was more of a poacher than anything else. Based on his characteristics, he had a flair for positioning and goals.

- Figo: Based on his abilities, was able to play well as a Central Midfielder/Winger. Considering his characteristics, he had a, more or less, good lecture of the game and was great at picking up runs.

- Cristiano Ronaldo's characteristics, on the other hand, is far different than that of the previous two. While it's true, he too has a great sense of goals and an above average lecture of the game, he'll still not be at his best when it comes to playing the role of either of those two.
The simplest of fact is that he doesn't rate 88+ in every single characteristic there's for a football player to suggest that because Figo/Ibra/Inzaghi and co. did well at above 30 therefore, he'll too!

The truth is, his tremendous athleticism covers up what he would lack if he was to play a Figo or Inzaghi role on a pitch. And once he loses that, he would still be a good player. But saying he could easily be a Figo or Inzaghi is far stretched as his score in the characteristics of those specific players isn't as good as those respective players themselves.

^I agree with your analysis mate, but one thing though, experience definitely counts for something. Otherwise many great players would never have survived past their 30s. We hardly see a significant dip in performance and most players adjust themselves accordingly. Beckham and Giggs are such examples, and even now, Ronaldinho is destroying youngsters in Brazil with his experience

@DerBomba,

I guess I had ''experience'' logged in my thought process when admitting that even after losing a considerable amount of his athleticism, he'd still be a good player.

So yeah, experience gotta count for something! ;)

Thanx will be watching.....

His current contract runs through till 2016. I wonder what his buy-out clause is though, if he even has one.

I hope they accept his terms. I don't really know how much he's asking for (this'd be the first time), but I just want him to stay here.

Ozil isn't going anywhere. Not only does he love Madrid, but hes loved by the board. I'm very confident he will get what he wants and will stay at Madrid for a LONG time.