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Mangala seems like a beast. I think City will be the dark horse in this years CL.
I doubt they will even make out of their group , Roma is in beast Mode
+1
Roma is the best Italian team, but the quality of Italy atm imo is on par with France, not Spain, England, or Germany.
+1
lol don't underestimate roma. sure italy has fallen off a bit but roma and juve dominate their italian counterparts to the point where i think they have the quality to get to the QFs in europe. i dont expect roma to quaify but i wouldnt be shocked to see it.

also the german league is not better than the italian league. there are 2 world class teams in germany, the rest are not very impressive at all, especially in europe. napoli, inter, and fiorentina are probably stronger than the rest of the bundesliga besides the two powerhouses.
Mangala was very impressive vs chelsea. The guy knows how to cover space. He was moving up the field swiftly to stop Costa from getting the ball and at the same time covering his lines. He is impressive in the air and seems to have decent ball control. No wonder he is rated so high.
Naaa I still think City can take on Roma. Thought, they have looked solid at the back this season.
Roma can be beaten but its going to take a good City side that is 100% healthy to beat them. I want to see Mangala play more and more and with Fernando Reges hopefully back and healthy for us I think we have a leg up on Roma but again we have to play really well to beat Roma, Roma is one hell of a sneaky team that can draw out a result but considering a lot of their players are young and have yet to play UCL and that they lost their star CB Benatia they could be facing some trouble.
+1
I think we should have went for either Mangala or Benatia
Also read several sources claiming both Ramos and Pepe will not play due to small injuries, so perhaps we will see Varane--Nacho CBs so I expect Coentrao to start as well.

Navas to start along with Isco as some have also read.

If Navas starts and we get a clean sheet it could mean some changes real soon.
Who knows, maybe even Illara will get a start.
According to Marca: Navas will start against Elche
Forget Marca, they always start s**t. But Carlo basically said Chichartio will start tomorrow.
+2
Isco also possible to start against Elche
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+1
@Malik.. 4th-25th?? really.
i think i have falling into that category twice but i didn't get sh*t

I'm 4 places behind you though @Malik
I'm prob going to end up 1st so :)
@Cjayzz , Yup , you win 25$ if you finish in 4 to 25th place , if you haven't received them then check with matt,

And yup first place is reserved for me
Thanks for the info
Is there a way to see how many people are participating in the league?
No, you'll have to ask Matt for that.
Why cant we rather start isco in the midfield, the dude wina alot of balls... juat from the minute he entered the game he was like a work horse till the end,

I think after isco does all the hardwork alongside modric, then rosriguez can come in and scorw goals; aince its basically what we saw and signed him.
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Being a starter and playing well and coming on as a sub and doing well are two completely different things.
+1
Realfan..

Still missing the point. I am talking about stability in the centre midfield role which we clearly lack from di maria and alonso departure..

In the last ucl finals, isco came on and our midfield looked very deadly attack minded and at the same time defensively (winning the ball) and remember alonso didn't play that game, d reason we were suffering till isco came on..
In this last game, I saw a lot of it when he came on and equally creating assists in the process..

Its not so much defensive our midfield has been lacking but the fact that they don't win balls that much in comparison to last season or rather, close down opponents.

That is why I say, if isco is pretty good at it and equally a threat, y not he start. It has nothing to do with being a substitute or a starter.

If he doesn't play well then, carlo can take other decisions
+3
I wouldn't bench James, who was one our best players on the field vs Deportivo. He was all over the place, and created chances.
Barcelona look strong. Seems like they've solved their defensive problems.
+3
Reminds me of the last season. We started badly and Barca won the first 8 games in a row. It's a long season,we'll see how will it pan out.
Pejvl... they are actually playing really well. A bit more direct still dorminating possession. And their young fellas are really solid.
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Yes they are,Im not denying that at all. Just reminding that's it's to early to come to conclusions yet.
Their result against Villarreal could have gone either way, and they had a pretty difficult time against Athletic Bilbao too. As impressive as their results have looked so far, I'm still not convinced with their defending.
+1
well... we better hope their defense goes to sh*t pretty soon because with all those clean sheets, we wont be getting any closer to them... Especially because we love to mess ourselves up at some point in the season
Asasiyun, well despite a few struggles that we had against the teams that you mentioned our defense looks the strongest at the moment. You have to take into consideration that we have new goal keepers and Mathieu who has never played for us before. We still have a few things to adjust defensively but currently, we are pretty happy. Especially since Madrid and Atletico have struggled when it comes to defending. But as time goes, I'm sure all three teams will find more stability at the back.
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Do you think that if they hadnt gotten the transfer ban they wouldnt have signed any CB's?
That's a really tough question. But IMO Lucho is very demanding. Demanding of the players and the board and he wanted to sign a CB. I know for a fact we wouldn't have signed two but last season's performance showed that we need a solid defender.
Utd vs leicester what a game. United needs two actual cbs
Failing that, Van Gaal has to make sure he doesn't play 4 out and out attackers.. what do you expect with Adm, Rooney, Falcao, RVP on the pitch at the same time?
Goals, haha
+1
Man utd's defence is pure comedy..

- blacklett can't close down players in the box
- they bought 2 left backs when they needed 2 centre backs
- there is clear need to sign 2 cbs or else they will always loose games easily like this regardless of how much effort their attack produce
@Danny lol :P
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actually both evra and buttner decided to leave so we needed 2 left backs.

anyways, rojo can fill in at CB, that's where he will be playing next week when shaw comes back. he has played CB for the last two seasons at sporting.

people criticizing our transfer policy we bought a cm, a cdm/lb, a cb/lb, a lb/lwb and loaned a striker. i think utd did the best they could do at the time. not many top CB on the market.
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Mate, no one said united didn't sign decent players or did make good transfer but they still didn't solve their major problem which is defence especially,

- their attack without falcao could have still won the league. Falcao only makes it certain that united has d best attack in epl and one of the best in the world.

- united would have still been fine by just signing luke shaw or rojo, not both... even smalling is pretty good at lb as well

- now take a look at ur options in defence and tell me if that is not the position united should not spent more on.
Tyler blacklett, j. evans, phil jones (injury regular) and they sold vidic... certainly if united signed 3 solid world class cbs, I think they'll prob the topping the table right now.

I only give kudos to van gaal for capturing di maria... and ander too is a really good addition. In january, I am sure they'll make d necessary signing... even rooney is trying better than blacklett in defence.
firstly our attack needed some pace and creativity, so di maria was necessary

secondly, falcao deal happened last minute, and is only a loan unless we want to buy next summer.

the defenders we wanted (other than shaw) were not available or chose other teams. we went after vermaelen and hummels, one went to barca one signed a new contract and was made captain. we signed rojo because we needed a LCB and he can double as a LB so it made sense. instead of signing lesser quality we decided to strengthen elsewhere and we will go back for another CB and cdm in the future.

seriously, how many teams bought a top cb? the only one out there was benatia and we would not be able to fend off bayern anyways given no CL.
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marca saying real madrid is selling its stadium name rights. i dont like it when an amazing club such as madrid would go down that road. how do you guys feel about it
It is real because it is Marca.
^ sarcasm?

Marca is often way off the truth and likes to spread crap within our club, I still don't know why people see them as the mouthpiece of Real Madrid.

The stadium rights may be true, as Emirates were interested a while ago.
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Obviously it would suck. But, the amount of money we'd get in return from Abu Dhabi would cover the cost of expanding and re-modelling the stadium, which is a big plus.

Prioirities lol...
Emirates isn't Abu Dhabi.
Top post there franky4fingers

Emirates are one of the contenders for the sponsorship,
As are IPIC from Abu Dhabi.

It hasn't been confirmed by the club who they've chosen
Football clubs are moving more and more towards a reality which makes identifying with your club more complex and difficult. This is probably due to the financial demands of the modern day world and the weight it holds over football.

The club isn't exactly selling its naming rights. 'Bernabeu' will still be a part of the venue's name, but it will also include a part of the sponsor's name too.

An example:

'Fly Emirates Bernabeu'

I still don't like it. Real Madrid should look forward to modernizing itself, but it shouldn't do so at the expense of some of its more traditional aspects lest they forget who they are.
+1
Details... Emirates is from Dubai, etihad is from Abu Dhabi. That's all i was saying. From what I've read emirates are going to take it if madrid do rename their stadium.
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I agree with asasiyun.
I think Carlo will play this kind of set up once Khedira is 100%

-----------Casillas-----------
Carvajal--Varane--Ramos--Marcelo
-----Modric--Khedira--Kroos---
-------------Jame-------------
---------Bale---Ronaldo-------

I didn't make this set up from thin air. He tried it against Basel and again today. I love it! I think it will be really effective against the very best like Atletico and Barcelona.
+3
I cant say I disagree its a great formation adding some more defensive stability with Sami to anchor and allowing Kroos to move forward more where we can really use more shots on net, not withstanding today's match.
Benzema is great, but James can do what he does and more. I think this will be our starting XI against the strong teams.
LOL some may really not like the link man being sidelined like that.
Benzema won't be sidelined though because he adds balance. CR7 & GB11 have a free role, and do like to drift to the centre forward position, and when they do Benzema switches with them and can still make himself useful if he's on the wing or in midfield.

I don't see CR7 or GB11 exclusively playing up front. So when they occupy other areas, and you take Karim out, who's gonna do it? They subbed him off today to rest him because the game was finished.
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^ agree that formation won't work Bale and ronaldo need benzene to make room for them win the middle. if yo have khedira and modric in the middle u dnt need james yo can put kroos #10 his favorite position as he played their in World cup.
+3
Benzema has already basically been playing as a CAM,so this formation could work perfectly. Like RealFan said,James can do the same and more.

Just let Ronaldo and Bale drift a little bit more than the classical strikers to the wings. James is there to act as a playmaker and a false 9 to some extent as well.
+1
Seem's like a good formation to counter attack teams willing to attack Madrid. But not what i would go with if your desperate to get a goal. When your chasing games you need Benzema in the middle to pull defender's away or link up with Ronaldo and Bale
+2
some nice goals in there, you guys scored more today than 18 la liga sides have scored all season so far. not bad.
+1
They've also conceded the second most :P

Offense was great nonetheless, quite efficient today, and nice to see Chicharito open up his goalscoring. Offense picked up where last season left off
Wait thought it was 19?
celta vigo has scored 8 so i excluded them. they would be the 19th if i said "madrid today scored more than or equal to" instead of just "more than"


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11
0
11
0
0
4
4
1
10
8
2
10
0
1
3
4
2
10
5
3
8
0
1
3
4
3
8
2
4
6
0
2
2
4
4
8
2
2
4
0
2
2
4
5
7
3
3
6
1
1
2
4
6
6
5
8
13
2
0
2
4
7
6
2
6
8
0
3
1
4
8
6
1
3
4
2
0
2
4
9
5
0
4
4
1
2
1
4
10
5
-2
5
3
1
2
1
4
11
4
0
7
7
2
1
1
4
12
4
-4
8
4
2
1
1
4
13
4
-6
12
6
2
1
1
4
14
3
-1
4
3
3
0
1
4
15
3
-6
8
2
3
0
1
4
16
2
-3
9
6
2
2
0
4
17
2
-3
8
5
2
2
0
4
18
2
-4
7
3
2
2
0
4
19
1
-10
10
0
3
1
0
4
20
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1
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
2
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
3
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
4
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
5
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
6
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
7
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
8
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
9
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
10
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
11
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
12
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
13
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
14
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
15
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
16
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
17
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
18
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
19
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
20
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
21
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
22

UEFA Champions League Table

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3
4
1
5
0
0
1
1
1
3
1
1
2
0
0
1
1
2
0
-1
2
1
1
0
0
1
3
0
-4
5
1
1
0
0
1
4

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