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Guillem Balague ‏@GuillemBalague 19m

Real and United are very close in the valuation of the player. He will cost MORE THAN 60m euros, could be 70. He will wear number 7

ME- i am not surprised but more than 60. perez is a genius. pure business skills this guy
perez is sick man he is all about business last year he sold ozil. hugian and etc. Now he wants to sell di maria and khedira so he can buy Falcao he planed this all summer!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pgbDKWbElw

Here is Ronaldo punching godin. twice. Ronaldo should get baned for this. I can assure you if this was suarez laliga would ban him for life. but since its a madrid player he will do what he want.

instead of banning my post try and argue me.
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Godin was holding him with his arms and he was trying to get free. Unfortunately he chose the wrong way to do that,he should have not acted like that. I don't wanna argue with you,cause there is nothing to argued about,Ronaldo should have not acted like that and he got booked because of it. This things happen all the time in the box during corners,and since you mentioned Suarez,if you want,I can provide you videos where he did the same and worst and didn't even get a card for that.

I see you're a new member to footytube. Welcome,and it's always nice to know we have another Madrid hater here.
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first ramos now ronaldo. it should hsve been a red card. he punched him twice. you push or pull. but those are punches. any other player and he would have been banned.
is it just me or madrid players keep punching everyone and dont get banned.

pepe ramos ronaldo, etc. arbeloa and alonso keep going it too.
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Argue me....LOL there is no argument you can pretty much assume no official saw how bad it may have been it in real time and CR7 is the receiver of many bad interactions he is not a usual suspect for these types of incidents unlike Suarez, so he got away with this one, it has happened to us and we are guilty as well.
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Ramos and Pepe have been suspended countless times before,i really don't know what you're talking about.
Never seen Alonso do it. But you do realize this is a two way street. Takes two to tango. I don't condone violence in football but it exists because men are violent by nature. Ronaldo should receive punishment.

But if you were to punish everyone fairly atletico and madrid wouldn't be able to field a full eleven.

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@Dhockey
Do you started watching real vs atletico 1week back???
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Ronaldo should get a 10 month ban. It seems fair.
Barca fans are so annoyed at the physicality of the derby it seems. That was nasty from CR7 but in general so much complaining about a heated physical derby. Get over it, its how Atletico and Real always were, arguing, fighting, and very physical.

Anyone else here feels that Atletico are still the best defending team in the world,but that they have also lost some of their attacking and creative threat?

They really can't keep the ball for long,and when they do manage to do it,it's because they are trying to waste time. In this 2 matches i have not seen them create an attack from open play. All the goals and chances they created were deflections,corners,free kicks,and our defense making mistake. This also tells a lot about us,since we conceded goals in both matches,both not from an build attack by Atleti.

I really don't know how will thy respond when smaller teams sit back and give them the ball. To me they look like they don't really know what to do then. Last year Costa bailed them out of countless matches by scoring some half chances,this year,i don't see that happening. I see Atletico as hell for big clubs( especially us and Barca ),and struggling against smaller teams that give them possession.
I think they have gotten even better this year.

I think the bigger concern is that Madrid scored 1 goal over the two legs, which came from a deflection. With all the attacking power Madrid have, they should have really tested Atletico more.

Oh and welcome to how we feel when we play 90% of teams.
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Most of the teams we play park the bus,it's not just Barca. The differences is other teams don't defend nearly as good as Atletico.

Also you should take into account the fitness of world cup players and the quality of opponents we played when you talk about goals scored by Madrid. Goals will come,and there will be a lot of them,just a matter of time.
Well, Arda Turan is injured so their main creative player is not available at the moment. Atletico play a smash-grab type game which relies more on shock than precision. It worked for them last year. Costa did really well last year but they aren't weak because of his transfer.

Mandzukic is a prolific goal scorer. He scored 26 goals last year when he wasn't even a regular starter. Griezmann scored 20 even though he's a wide player. Griezmann also has a lot of pace and offers creativity and width which they didn't really have last year. I think they have gotten better than last year, at least on paper.

They can't play possession game vs Madrid because Madrid likes to keep the ball. Its the same case with Barcelona. So their only chance is to press hard and catch them out of position. To be honest, in my opinion, that's the only place where Madrid is weak. I'm quite sure that against weaker teams, they can play a much more creative game.
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By reading some of the things on this forum you'd think we lost La Liga and the CL already. Looking at our schedule recently, I think the bad performance could have been down to fatigue or just the fact Atletico were brilliant. Congratulations to them.

This is why we need the depth we have, because come end of the season with injuries left and right, and rest required for some of the regular starters it is very important. This game is more of a wake up call than anything else.

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where's Navas?
@Farhad(st1or) Please stop trolling. You're too obvious.
@Farhad, bekhubi mishnasamet. Dafe avalet nist Real Madrid ro troll mikoni! I am Ekoj, who are you? :)
I only posted that because of his fantastic performance today. Sorry if it seemed like I was trolling..

http://gfycat.com/GreenArtisticEmperorpenguin

And it's really weird that you're calling me by my first name.. lol who are you?
a mod, im sure. lol ^^
Lol so when does the transfer window close??

Anyone know of a 9 we can call someone who can hold the ball using his body, an aerial threat and can shoot with both feet who can make some simple passes when called upon.
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Dude you won't find much better than Benzema...
Its easy to blame him...but everyone in madrid was crap today...
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No Di Maria, no party
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Dude won't find much better at what exactly, link up play ok you win he is the king of link ups...lol what about if u need a goal from ur 9 cause ur wingers have no space to play then is he still the best???

Let's have an honest discussion about this ok, Benzema needs someone to push him, last season Zizou was here to do that with Morata an option though not much of a threat to Benz, he needs someone to feed back of and remind him that as a 9 with his body he needs to create his own opportunities as well or bring another type of striker and rotate as needed.
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^^^lets not get over zealous here lol many of us are calling for a different type of 9 for certain types of opponents when he is having his off days not to sell him.
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^^ good one. and I do think Madrid's feeling it.
every team has a bad day & a bad game. don't sweat it, yall got it next time.
well take benz off your hands for ya ;)
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You guys should sign Ibra, Lewa and Suarez, FIFA career mode style!
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Even in FIFA, you're not allowed to sign players that's moved recently, which goes for Lewa(signed by Bayern), Suarez(Barcelona+4 months ban).
The #9 that you want to give Benzema competition was born and bred in your own backyard. He is the beast of vallecas.
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@YungGunner

"Make them an offer they can't refuse!"
I offered 90m for Bony. *rejected by Swansea City*
You offered £90m for Wilfried Bony?

Now that's true SWAG.
I was under the impression you could only with the Sextuple AFTER winning the treble.

Barcelona won the treble in 2009 then in the following months won the two Super Cups and the Club World Cup. 6 titles.

Can a Barca fan clarify this for me. What do you consider your Sextuple?
I see...

I think this way makes more sense, though.

You win three titles then you cap it off by winning the three smaller titles that come as a consequence/extension of the main three titles.
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Both count. It's rare enough that either combination would be written in the media as a sextuple.
Yup I agree. That way seems more proper.
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You had the chance to take both super cups, CWC and the treble to make it a season sextuple. Barca did the calendar year sextuple.
If im right, the only sextuple ever done was by us. The calender year sextuple is already hard enough(2009 Barca), the season sextuple requires "THE" perfect team honestly. :P
Sigh.... I thought that after finally winnin la decima carlo would put all of his focus on the defense... Were conceding some really dumb goals... In the end i think this sort of bitter defeat will do us more good than harm in the long run.... Lets hope it fires the players up.

Congrats to atelti on their deserved title.... our better rivals at the moment
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Why remove kroos?
So it's 15th match in a row he doesn't even come close to scoring. Let's not blame Benzema for this lose,but let's also not forget that this is the only striker we have in this team. This guy who can't score or keep the ball to save his life. There is still little time to try and find another striker,but looks like we'll say stuck with him.

This match has not been much different in comparison to the other one we played against Atleti last year. they are the tip of team that really doesn't fit us,we will always have trouble against them.They still have the worlds best defense from last year,but I feel they are weaker in attack. the just can't keep the ball,or create deadly counters like last year. I don't know how will they react when they play smaller opponents that will park the bus and give them all the possession. Doesn't seem to me that they have the technical ability to play a good possession biased game. Still,they will always be hell for us. Right now Barca is a much easier opponent for us to beat than Atletico.

As for us,I think Kroos should take Xabi's position. Guess he was tired today so thats why he was subbed. James is getting better,but i still don't know where can we fit him. Also Ramos today was a horror show,hotheaded and full of mistakes. Not even the calm presence of Varane could cool him off and get him focused. And boy,what would i give for Jese right now,probably the only one who will challenge for the strikers spot.
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say something eh!!!
sell benzema to us, we'll give you about 20-25m, then you can go buy falcao for about 60-70m, deal? deal. lol
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