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FIFPRO World 11, best 15 midfielders nominees:) great to see 3 our own on the list and another 3 that were recent Blancos, one hell of team though even without any defenders lol.

http://www.fifa.com/ballon-dor/news/y=2014/m=11/news=fifteen-midfielders-shortlisted-for-fifa-fifpro-world-xi-2014-2480397.html

Greetings Madridista's.

This is the former user 'Asasiyun'. I've decided to make a new account and so I will start to use this one from now on.
dude... you have AFG/White/Great written allover you
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And which former user was Asasiyun?
Why do you think so?
Asasiyun would write an essay explaining why he's back using numbers and the laws of robotics. You're not asasiyun!
Any of yall have a problem with this? Or as long as the money keeps flowing in you have no issues with the change of logo?

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2014/11/26/crossed-out-soccer-club-real-madrid-tweaks-logo-to-appease-uae-bank/
Obviously it sucks a lot, but at the same time we are a global franchise.
Real madrid are a proud club, one the greatest teams in the history of football with their myriad of accomplishments. My real question is why compromise who you are or undermine your history (i.e the logo) by pandering to foreign interests?

Yes, lets not kid ourselves this is a business and expanding the fan/consumer base is always top of the list. But was this the ONLY alternative to get more funding? Also, what does this say about the tolerance (tolerance of difference i.e. faith) from some of these financial backers?
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Money>Values these days business as usual
Religious intolerance IMO is at an all time high in this world and speaks poorly of our club that we are willing to appease the roots of club just for a business deal, however that logo is to be used on a credit card in the UAE and I suppose for a UAE citizen a tiny cross on a historical logo is just not acceptable.

And my comment is not meant to say all citizens of the UAE will be bothered by a small cross that forms part of futbol clubs logo and I am sure that our clubs reasons boil down to purely a business outlook and getting out to as many persons of the demographic they are looking to connect with, it just seems like there should be some things the club should not forsake, and I say this not being a Christian.
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I think a couple of points should be addressed before coming to any definitive conclusions.

We don't know the nature of Abu Dhabi's financial backers. The change may not have stemmed from an intolerance toward any one particular religion. It may have been for the very same reason Real Madrid's executives agreed to alter their crest - to attract as many consumers as possible.

I still think a large portion of the population would have been okay had the cross remained on the credit card, but to win over the percentage of individuals who may not have been okay with the cross, I guess both parties agreed to make the adjustments.

So is it religious intolerance on the part of these financial backers? I'm not entirely sure. I think it has more to do with the nature of businessmen.

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Next, we have to determine whether or not the cross on Real Madrid's crest is symbolic of the Christian faith and whether or not Real Madrid's historical background has any meaningful relationship with the Christian faith.

From what I gather, the crown on Real Madrid's crest, and everything associated with it, is not so much a symbol of Christianity as it is a symbol of King Alfonso XIII.

In 1920 King Alfonso XIII granted the club his royal patronage and hence the crown was added to the crest. The title 'Real' (royal) was subsequently added to the club's name as well.

As far as I'm concerned, the institution that is Real Madrid has no significant or meaningful relationship with the Christian faith. I could be terribly mistaken so before I decide to give my thoughts on this particular matter, I'll wait and see if anyone can shed some more light on this.

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I also think religious intolerance is becoming a global concern, but we have to be mindful when discussing these issues. I'm not pointing any fingers so much as putting this out there, but there's often a misconception with respect to the Middle East and their tolerance of different faiths.

I'm going to provide a couple of examples in the hope that many will start to think twice before generalizing or reducing an entire region based on a few corrupt leaders and/or radical groups.

Everyone is familiar with the threat Daesh (mistakenly referred to as ISIS/ISIL) by now. They've had as one of their goals the ethnic cleansing of Christian minorities in Iraq. As a result, many Iraqi Christians have had to flee their homes, displaced in the aftermath. Upon fleeing for their lives, the Christians were met with offers of a safe haven in Najaf and Karbala, housing some of the holiest shrines in Shi'a Islam. These holy shrines are housing many Christian families, providing them with their basic needs.

Another example I'd like to provide is related to the Jewish faith. Outside of Israel/Palestine, Iran possesses the 2nd/3rd largest population of Jews. They are free to practice their religion in the country.

These examples are simply put forth so as to raise awareness, and that, hopefully, generalizations can start to dissipate.

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Also, I think a critique of Fox News and The Algemeiner are in order.

The two sources often use the term "Muslim sensibilities". They both put forth a statement such as "...cave into Muslim religious intolerance..." and The Algemeiner had even concluded its piece with the following statement:

"It is not yet clear whether the UAE will require Ronaldo, Real Madrid’s top striker, to change his Christian name – which is, appropriately, “Cristiano.”"

They both emphasize the concern of intolerance, but one can't help but feel an undertone of intolerance coming from them.

Everyone is familiar with the poor quality of Fox so not much is needed to be said of them. I'd give my take on The Algemeiner, but I have to be careful of what I say from now on, so I'll conclude by asking everyone to be cautious when reading from them.
The real question is did anyone notice that little cross on top of the crest before today.

If I asked anyone to draw Madrid's crest from memory 2 weeks ago I'm willing to wager money that nobody would include it.
Rejecteh, or Asasiyun as you were. I agree with you that the region is usually misunderstood, and groups like Daesh are not helping that but both examples you used are quite obviously biased, since you yourself are Iranian and a Shi’a I don't blame you. At the same time groups IN Iran have persecuted the Sunni minorities in Iran, it works both ways.

I think the problem in that region is a matter of corrupt leaders and Western influence dividing the people. There was a time when places governed by Islamic rule had the most Jews and Christian's present, with them given equal rights according to Islam. So when you have Fox 'news' and other media sources saying garbage like that, people who don't understand the religion develop the mentality it's a problem caused by religion.

Hikmat, you are mistaken. I'm not Iranian nor do I live in Iran.

I don't understand how my examples are biased. I just provided a couple of cases to make the point that Islam and the Middle East aren't what mainstream media portrays it to be. This has nothing to do with Sunni vs. Shi'a.

You bring up a good point in your second statement, but I've been warned about participating in any political discussions. I'm going to heed that warning for now. I think we should leave sensitive material out of this thread.
Has anybody been following Casemiro in Porto? I have no idea how he's doing for them,hopefully good. Also,do we maybe have an option to recall him in the winter transfer window? I think he could offer us more that Illarra for sure,and Khedira is struggling with injuries a lot lately.
I have read some articles that he is doing quite well and As and Marca have mentioned him on several occasions as a serious option to return to the club.
he didn't get playing time last season, now all of a sudden he's an option? i don't understand.
An option in a sense as he is available to return next season as the club sees fit but their are others I am sure the club are looking at.
Come on Carlo time to rest a few tired legs!!! Read Kroos says he's a bit tired.....rest, Bale looks disinterested.....rest we have Chicharito who hasn't been given a fun time to date, if we're to have a continued strong showing isn't it best we get ALL of our guys involved to ensure that this run of form continues for the long haul.
from MARCA

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3fCDOKCQAAmX7j.jpg

In addition to Marco Asensio, Real Madrid is closing in on another signing for next season: Lucas Silva from Cruzeiro.

Theres a possibility he could even join in January seeing Modric's long-term injury and Khedira's inability these last few months to be healthy for a Madrid game even though he plays everything for Germany.
I have read alot lately about Carlos interest in this defensive mid, we have been strongly linked with him and he is probably in a pool with Pogba perhaps..lol
I would be happy with signing any Brazilian!
Carlo Ancelotti during his recent press conference:

"We haven't thought about any players for the winter transfer window. We're continuing with the plan of bringing in Medrán, who is very young."

"The club's desire is to talk to him [Sami Khedira] about a contract renewal. It's a negotiation and I don't know what will happen. He is player that I have a lot of confidence in."

- Realmadrid.com
Luka we miss you man!!:P
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Wut? 0_o
No one? really?
Even more "W's" to come ,I hope. Right now it is the record for most consecutive w in Madrid history lol
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Oh now I got it xD
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lol just went on Ludogorets page on here and looked at the comments from liverpool fans 3 months ago.. Lmao

i bet this is how majority of them felt then, bu now...

http://www.footytube.com/teams/bulgaria/ludogorets/?ref=head_tm_tt
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The guys played too laid back today, especially with their final passes. Either too long, too short or off target it was an indication of not having to win as qualification was already assured. Gareth you didn't have to actually try to leave your adidas laces on the ball ya know.
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GA
GF
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D
W
Pl
Pos
30
35
11
46
2
0
10
12
1
28
24
6
30
2
1
9
12
2
26
11
12
23
2
2
8
12
3
24
13
11
24
2
3
7
12
4
23
3
16
19
3
2
7
12
5
21
3
12
15
3
3
6
12
6
20
5
12
17
2
5
5
12
7
18
3
14
17
4
3
5
12
8
15
-3
13
10
5
3
4
12
9
14
-7
16
9
6
2
4
12
10
14
-9
24
15
6
2
4
12
11
13
-1
16
15
6
4
3
13
12
13
-6
19
13
5
4
3
12
13
12
-17
26
9
6
3
3
12
14
11
-4
16
12
5
5
2
12
15
11
-11
17
6
5
5
2
12
16
10
-5
14
9
6
4
2
12
17
10
-9
21
12
6
4
2
12
18
10
-15
27
12
7
4
2
13
19
7
-10
20
10
5
7
0
12
20
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UEFA Champions League Table

Form
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GA
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W
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0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
1
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
2
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
3
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
4
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
5
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
6
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
7
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
8
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
9
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
10
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
11
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
12
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
13
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
14
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
15
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
16
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
17
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
18
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
19
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
20
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
21
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
22

UEFA Champions League Table

Form
PTS
GD
GA
GF
L
D
W
Pl
Pos
15
10
2
12
0
0
5
5
1
6
-1
7
6
3
0
2
5
2
4
-4
8
4
3
1
1
5
3
4
-5
10
5
3
1
1
5
4

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