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So in this years Dreamfooty its winner takes all. Kinda ruined it for me.
Hate to bring up DeGea fiasco again,but this is the interview Perez had for El Largureo:

http://www.marca.com/en/2015/09/04/en/football/real_madrid/1441323588.html

It's hard to trust Perez,but i do believe that one thing from this interview is true:
"We couldn't negotiate with United before Monday because the message from them was that De Gea was not for sale. Jorge Mendes told us on Monday that Man United wanted to negotiate and in half an hour we had a deal".

I believe this is exactly how it went,just like Levy was holding Bale until the last minute. Now you can read Pereze's version of why the deal collapsed in the end,it could be true,he does say that FIFA has prof for his claims. Probably the only person who can unravel this mystery would be Jorge Mendes,but it wouldn't be very professional of him to take sides,wouldn't it? Guess we'll just have to collect scraps and believe what seems more logical to us.
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It's been 72 hours since the deal collapsed. Today, Perez spoke on the DeGea deal and few other things. The interview is in Spanish, so if you speak Spanish then you're in luck. Unfortunately for me, I don't know the language. Enjoy guys.

Interview:
http://cadenaser.com/programa/2015/09/03/el_larguero/1441231520_477458.html

Translation:
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/3jk7vf/florentino_p%C3%A9rezs_comments_on_de_geas_transfer/
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According to Perez he is done dealing with Manchester United after that little stunt. I say good riddance.
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Next, Chelsea.
lol i'm so, so sad to hear this.:D
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Woww..Great news...make me soo Happy..!!!xD
Aside from DDG, do they even have anyone RM wants?
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No its okay, Woodward and LVG will be gone by the time we want another star
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unless we want to sell a player, im quite sure utd are done selling to you guys. woodward makes the club so much $$ he's not going anywhere anytime soon. he's new to the scene, he's only had these past 3 summers for experience, he'll get it together.
Thats all good SIF but pretty unrealistic imo, one because there will be a pretty good chance you may want players from us in the future and vice versa, also forgetting the fact that players from Man U may want to come to our team and vice versa so lets keep it real.
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none of our other players are from madrid, and if any have man crushes on real i havent heard it yet.

that might not always be the case, but it doesnt really matter, the transfers so far have been one-sided so no dealings benefits us more than you. if we never buy another real madrid player it's no big deal.
There's a WhatsApp chat group going with members from FT and the thing is since the whole DDG/NAVAS transfer deal breakdown that's all they've been on and on about. The thing is there's NO-ONE there who can change it and it really boggles me to read these guys go on and on about who was at fault either more Madrid or more Utd.......really!!!! Can't wait for both those gks to actually get back to business and my phone stops blowing up over nonsense that none can change and starts back over events that mean something going forward.

No matter who thinks what there's absolutely 0 that anyone who posts on FT or outside of Madrid or Utd's management team can do....So please STFU with it already!!!!!!!
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Real Madrid closed out the 2014/15 fiscal year with the figure for total revenue standing at €660.6 million, a 9.4% increase on the previous fiscal year. This figure includes the capital gains obtained through the sale of players.

Operating income, not taking the capital gains obtained through the sale of players into account, stood at €577.7 million, a 5.1% increase on the previous fiscal year.

Still making those Benjamins Perez.
€660.6 million? My god...
Eden Hazard: I'll never be a true scorer like Lionel Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo

Yeah well no s**t. Don't know why Hazard is even getting mentioned in the same sentence as Ronaldo and Leo.
Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo and Hazard went out for a drink, Bendtner was also there.

Does this sentence upset you?
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Exactly, so Madrid don't ever need to buy him. I expect you guys to keep your paws off him for the next 10 years.
^ no one said he isn't on James' level tho :p
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@RealFan - So this guy tries to be humble, and you take a dig at that? I don't see your point at all.
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dont think Realfan was having a dig at hazard but at the people overrating him all the time... Mourinho being one of them lol

its actually hard to dislike Hazard
I rate Hazard very highly. Higher than Bale quite frankly because he's so intelligent on the ball and makes the team tick. He is one of the best chance creators out there and always a defender's nightmare. Any team would be lucky to have him.

Realfan, I doubt you watch him regularly because if you do you would know he is better than half of those guys you mentioned at the Chelsea forum and will be as good or perhaps better than Robben at his peak.
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Mourinho is the only person I know that rates Eden on CR7's level. Everyone knows he's not up there with Messi and Ronaldo. But he certainly is not so far removed that's it's insulting to compare.
@Jeroen.. why are you so bitter??
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^^ are you sure you're not the one who's bitter? You pick out Jeroen's comment out of this whole discussion, why?
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Hazard is class but he should be compared to Reus, Bale, etc.. Not the likes of Neymar, Messi, and Ronaldo :p
Messi and Ronaldo are above everyone else, there is no denying that... amongst the others Hazard is way above Neymar coz he's so humble and doesnt spend time on his hair and doesnt dive :P
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^ according to this logic , ronaldo shouldn't even get mentioned for top 10 , because he too loves to spend lots of time and money on hair & dives regularly ,

oh wait sorry I forgot he dives because he is competitive , can't say same about neymar .
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Futboll: what's with you and neymar? Lol That treble he's sitting on must've hurt a lot.
sigh and there goes Malik with the wildness... Franky with the follow up lol... how about a more grown up conversation gentlemen...

st1or i think we can very well put Hazard on the same page as neymar... I find neymar better than hazard, but lets not try and put him as high as CR7 and Messi... at least not yet..
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Dagaza: Your boy talks about hair and diving on a topic about hazard and you obviously think THAT is a grown up conversation. Lol
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i was talking to everyone on this post... not just you two
ok let me be clear here, i put those things like hair and sh*t not because i believe them but i was trying to mock those who use that argument to put cristiano down and now dont say those dumbf**ks havent/dont do it...sorry for the confusion
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Sorry Malik,I accidentally deleted your last comment :(

You can never be safe while browsing on your phone,my finger just slipped on the delete button. Sorry again man,fell free to post it again.
@futboll

so basically you were trying to be a hypocrite.
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"Eden is technically gifted and very fast. He will be a major star in the future. I would take him to Real Madrid with my eyes closed."
Zinedine Zidane

its a great compliment given by a great that he can make Hazard play for one of the biggest clubs in Europe
I make a joke and I'm bitter. OK.

To clear things up: I'm a huge Eden fan (duh, he's Belgian) and I don't think he's close to Ronaldo either, let alone Messi. But no one is and no one will be for a long, long time. I rate Hazard at about the level of James, which is top 10 in the world, probably top 3 when Messi and CR retire.

@DrogbaLampard; you left out the most important bit about Zizou's quote on Hazard: "He has that rarest of gifts in football: he's intelligent."
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Damn those Wikipedia quotes (lol)
st1or: like i said i was mocking those hypocrites like yourself who have in the past used ronaldo's hair and attitude and stuff like that instead of his football ...
i was trying to be sarcastic not hypocrite...a huge difference
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@futboll , sure , let's start mocking each other for their other POSTS IN PAST , WHICH WERE ON SOME OTHER TOPIC .

f**k LOGIC !!!!!!
Drop it, guys.

Barca fans, I don't think you'd like RM fans calling you hypocrites on your forum.

RM fans, even on your own wall you can't be personally insulting other users.
^ you're right , no one wants to be called hypocrite , but problem here is some people just can't digest seeing a normal civilized conversation .

I Still can't wrap my head around on reason of dragging hair styles and dives in to this post .
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So in a funk right now not knowing how to feel about how my club Madrid has gone and done this to two top top players. Don't care who points the most fingers at whom because it takes two to tango and this time both parties were dancing to the wrong music.

F..k Perez and F..k LVG for this crap because both teams could have had two quality gks suiting up for them come next week and both sides would have been winners in this transaction.

These transfers each kiss me assed season is getting ridiculous to a point that it becomes nauseating.
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The transfer collapsed and both sides took some damage but at least we both have the gk that most of the fans support. Things will get sorted out the next window I hope
Lmao what does lvg Have to do with this? Perez should have more f*****g sense than to table a bid on the last day of the window. Bitter beans.
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Ok Louis ^^ FYI since in the BPL unlike Spain or should I say Real Madrid, YOU/YOURSELF has more control over who comes and who leaves and if YOU Louis decide that DeGea shouldn't leave due to no better replacement at the moment U will make it hard for any deal to be successful. If Utd was really willing to give DeGea to Madrid it would have been done long ago. No matter what you read in the media we all know that this was in the end a breakdown that pleased both sides whether it be management or fan base. Both sides knew that whether either gk stayed or not that they would still have quality between the sticks. For us having DeGea would have not been a step up from Navas but moreso having that Spainish identity for Madrid and representation on the National team. Right now the majority fans of Madrid want Navas to stay and continue gk for us. If that wasn't the case after the conclusion of the Betis's game for an entire week that deal would have been CEMENTED and not waiting until the FINAL DAY of transfer activities for both England and Spain.

So Mr.LVG please go back and rethink your attempted diversion from your own lacking. We all know you want DeGea to stay and in doing so you left him on the bench for I believe 6 straight games. That's clearly actions from a parent who wants to educate their child in proper behavior by grounding them so to get that desired affect of proper conduct = (signing a new contract, rejecting the move to Madrid and making U MR.LVG happy)
Come on people,you really think our 2 clubs didn't talk all summer long? They were in contact every day for the past weeks ,that's for sure. I formal bid was not made,but they were all running around this transfer,of that I'm sure.

The only question that we may never resolve is who was the one playing hard ball till the end. Did United out of spite refuse to accept any formal offers before the last day even thou everything has already been accepted and resolved in principal? Or was Perez holding his poker face to long? Whatever the case is,both clubs had a part in it,and maybe it's for the best the deal didn't go trough at this moment.
Throughout summer everyone knew ddg wanted to leave, and Lvg was no different. Numerous times he came out and told media that ddg was unsettled, even got a replacement Romero. What else have we heard? That Real Madrid bid £20 mil for ddg. That real offered ddg £12 million if he would see out his contract and join on a free. All kinds of dirty tricks and just not being straightforward.

Fact is if Perez had bid a decent amount a week before the window closed, ddg would be a real player now. End of.
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@LVG is right. Madrid didn't put in an offer until the final day of the transfer window. And DDG is still to receive 10-12m as a 'sign-on bonus' when he signs for Madrid. It's shady business and I really hope DDG renews his contract.

The DDG rumours started ever since Casillas parted ways. Had Madrid really wanted him and had they really respected Navas and DDG, they would have settled the deal a long time ago.
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St1or and how do you know that? how do you know it wasnt Man U that didnt officially open communications on the last day knowing what we would offer? cmon man you would have no idea who actually did what on the last day, this sounds again like we can only do wroong and everyone else does right,

Man U says we didnt deal till the last day and we say the opposite but somehow YOU know who did what cmon keep it real for petes sake.
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You snooze you loose. Why wait until the last possible minute? Oh yeah... for publicity.
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I agree about last minute but lets not forget that it was in our interest to get this deal done and not to wait till the last minute so why would we? if you are able to think about unbiasedly then you may reach the same conclusion as I, case and point Mr. Levy and the Bale deal made us wait till the last day as well.
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the whole shady part of neymar deal was done by barca...for publicity
In case anyone cares, Tharius and I agreed on a conclusion on the matter.. on a whataspp convo that lasted almost the entire day.
Futboll: Is there a reason why neymar is brought into this discussion? Do you know who else perez signed by making a similar "penalty clause" deal in the past? If you actually knew about your president you'd know he's the master of this.
Tharius: Just because its in your interest to make a deal doesn't mean you can't or didn't mess up. Making a deal early means spending more money. It was also in your interest to wait until the end so united would get desperate. So no, your logic doesn't make sense. United was in a worse situation than madrid because you have a world class keeper while their 1st choice keeper was not playing for them.
^ lol,that's their habit,even in wats app convo,they were talking about how shady barca are when they defend blindly their club in de gea situation,so obsessive.
Franky @ [Madrid's] interest to wait until the end so united would get desperate"

United were never desperate to sell DeGea to begin with. They were not interested in selling him. PERIOD

" David is a key member of our squad and the club’s preference was not to sell."

You make it sound like Madrid had the upper hand? Madrid was wasting time to force United in a corner and make them "desperate"? RUBBISH. It was the other way around. United wanted to leverage this deal as much as they could, and were willing (proven so), to wait for the last day to strike a deal.

Keep in mind, Madrid sold Iker to prepare a new spot for DeGea. Back then, DeGea had already signed personal terms with Madrid. United publicly promised to make DeGea deal difficult for Madrid. While United pressed Madrid to sell Ramos but they had no luck there. And you still believe that it was Madrid who were stalling?
ofc you know more than anyone about perez..heck you know more about perez than your own board..
oh and i just brought that deal up to trying to focus on "for publicity" part...not everything that happens is for publicity
Futboll: Terrible logic yet again. Me suggesting you don't know your president doesn't imply I know more about him than anyone else. When you talk about shady transfers conducted by Sandro Rosell, you ought to know Perez came to power on the basis of a shady transfer. And if anyone makes a transfer for marketing and publicity, its Mr Perez. Most of his pet transfer projects are pure vanity items to make money for the club and not necessarily to enhance your team. Your snide remarks aren't really making much sense.

Thecount: I agree that united didn't want to sell Degea and the stalling was from their side. The dragging tactic was them trying to make max profit from a lost cause. Almost all clubs do this to maximize their profit. What do you want United to do? Just roll over and get destroyed by their fans? Now Madrid didn't really NEED DeGea this year. So if Perez wanted him so bad, he should have gone for it with a higher bid and got his prized toy. Nobody would be complaining about delaying tactics etc if they hadn't messed up the paperwork because its normal during transfers.

Nevertheless, your club actually saved money because of the mess. Now if DDG extends with united then its going to be a terrible deal for Madrid.
To get an idea of what Madrid was going up against just take a look at United' s recent track record in the transfer market these last few summers. F*ck up central.

The road is littered with failed negotiations, transfers falling through in the last minute. One after the other. Pedro being the latest in a long line of c**k-ups.

Whoever runs operations for them needs to get fired.
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Stop it now Slim, this is completely disgraceful from two of the world's most lauded clubs in the history of this sport. The problem with this situation is Perez and his footballing vision or lack there of. Knowingly going after DeGea for sometime, why buy Casilla if you wanted David all along. Why put Navas through that? This is another situation where its what Perez thinks the fans want and not what Real Madrid need.

I hope that LVG be the bigger man than he's shown to date and for the better of Utd, play David sooner rather than later. Makes no sense for Madrid to go after a player in Jan because he should be fielded by Utd in the UCL to help their cause. Don't be poutful-foolish and say he's gonna rot knowing you need him no matter what.
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@Slim

Don't know about their recent transfers but United have the FA to back them up on their claims. And one of their claims was that Madrid chose not to go down that route..
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