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There is something wrong with Dortmund water.

According to Bild Mkhitaryan have rejected the contract extension , his managers ( a massive dick ) said this.

Mino Raiola: "Why'd we sign a new contract now if he (Mkhitaryan) has contract until 2017 and we're thinking about his future"

So if he don't signs an extension , BVB will be forced to either sell him this summer or risk losing him next year for free.

This while Couple of days back Jorge Costa ( Gabon's NT coach ) said Aubameyang have asked him not to be selected because he is in the process of changing clubs.

They have already lost their club captain hummels and it's quite likely that they will loss gundogan to City too :/
Gotta say I like your new shirts. It's nice that there isn't a sponsor on the front and it looks far better with the original vertical stripes.
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Yes they look nice without sponsors logo , also quite surprising that f*****g Nike made a good looking kit .
I think Dani Alves should stay for at least another year. Imo the best RB in the world. Even if people might question his defending his attacking over comes all of it.
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You know, I really like your posts. Sometimes I feel you love Barca more than most of us Barca fans here. LOL
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LOVE is in the air....:P
You say love, but it doesn't sound like it.
WHat is it then?
"Youll never walk Mes que un club!"
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^Speak for yourself.
Most players don't really look at their money management strategies which are handled by others especially the ones who let their families handle their money. The Spanish authorities know this very well because many players get into trouble when their taxes aren't in line with ever changing tax laws. But the public prosecutor is pushing to show messi was involved and send him to jail with his father.
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Leaked transcript....


At the beginning, the judge went through the complaint and detailed what was being accused of Messi. Then the first question came. It was direct. "Who is in charge of taxation and financial matters?"

-Messi: My family, my mum, my dad.

-Judge: When you sign a document, do you read its contents?

-M: No.

-J: Why do you sign it? Because they say to?

-M: I trust my dad, who is in charge of my things, and who tells me what I do.

Messi is then asked if he can speak louder. He nods. A number of companies are then listed which were supposedly created to avoid paying taxes in Spain. Messi is asked if he was a director, partner or shareholder in them. The player responds "No".

-J: With respect to the companies, what do you know?

-M: Even though I hear about all of that, I don't understand anything.

-J: I'm going to show you a contract regarding the cession of rights. Do you know about this contract?

-M: To be honest, I don't know. As much as I look [at it]... I don't know. I have signed things, but I never look at the contracts. I don't know what I sign.

haha everything is a conspiracy, right?

The prosecutor is just doing his job. Messi put his name on documents that indicate fraud and now he has to answer for it. Welcome to the real world.

He doesn't know what he signs? thats his responsibility. He can ask for clarification, he can hire a team of lawyers to look over the documents.

This is a grown man we're talking about. Ignorance is not an excuse in the eyes of the law.

He trusted his father who is a crook? Thats on him. Just on that stupidity alone he deserves some sort of punishment.
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not really an excuse to say you signed stuff without knowing. i think if this was the usa he would be in serious trouble as ignorance isnt a defense. not sure what will transpire in spain but this doesnt look good.

also given how much money he makes, why is his advisor trying to avoid taxes in the first place. what percent do they charge him?
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He will be forced to pay insane money. That is the only way I see this coming to an end.
Wow, I feel for him. When your the most followed footballer in the world, you hire people you trust to deal with your other work and he really seems like he trusted his dad. As much as Messi is to blame here, dafaq was his dad thinking putting his own son on risk of being sent to jail.

At the end of the day, he will probably avoid jail but he'll be forced to pay so much money, when this is over he needs to fire his dad.
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His fine will be double the amount of taxes he avoided or something like that. thats what happens when dick parents gets too greedy. Same with neymar's father, who i think is a bigger asshole.
@Slim, not everything is conspiracy , but when this (read below) happens then Barcelona fans have every right the be suspicious.

"In Messi’s case, the Spanish prosecution service dropped the charges against the player and announced it would pursue just his father, Jorge, for his role, only for the state attorney to reverse that decision a few days later and insist both men stand trial for tax evasion.

It would be mischievous to point out that the official responsible for that decision, Marta Silva de Lapuerta, is the daughter of a former minister of public works under Franco and is herself a former Real Madrid board member"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/players/lionel-messi/11938238/Lionel-Messis-tangle-with-the-taxman-shows-up-old-rivalries-and-suspicious-intrigue.html


Also don't forget Alonso & Iker both had issues with taxman but neither their image was dragged in media nor it lasted for this long.
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LOL I love it when people with little to no knowledge of issues chime in with their own theories. Just on that stupidity alone he deserves punishment, huh Slim? haha Yep. #Trump2016 too? Welcome back to FT. I missed your posts.

Tax law functions on two aspects - Civil and Criminal. Not knowing the law is never an acceptable excuse but whether your error is civil or criminal determines the penalty that you have to pay and that's exactly what they're trying to determine. I read a few detailed articles about Messi's case and its being said that there seems to be little to no evidence that Messi was an active participant in tax avoidance. This was already determined by the public prosecutor who recommended Messi be acquitted from the criminal case a few months ago.

If you were ignorant of the illegality of your tax situation, you are put through a civil procedure. You are supposed to pay all back taxes with interest and penalties. You almost never go to jail for not paying taxes in Civil cases. And yes, you are allowed to sign papers when management is done by someone else because the taxman also understands that athletes are dumbfucks.

To make a tax case a criminal case, one has to prove intent. In order to build a case around intentional avoidance of taxes one has prove knowledge of the said laws and willful involvement in avoidance of those laws. Just because your lawyer told you to sign it and you did, doesn't prove intent. It is a very difficult case to prove and defense lawyers can bury prosecution in paperwork easily to avoid it. International tax laws are sometimes so complicated with intergovernment treaties that even tax attorneys struggle to keep up. You could make an investment which was legal a few years ago and leave it there and the tax law could change making any further earnings from there illegal. It happens all the time.

SIF: I live in Dubai but I still have to pay American taxes. I know all this because I've had my issues with international taxation. You open a company you have file some stupid form. You buy property and there's another form. You make capital gains and you have go through a complicated series of deductions. You make losses in business and its carried forward next year in some weird way. Its so complicated that when your tax attorney explains it to you, you will literally doze off. In USA, similar theories apply. You will be processed as a criminal if you willfully tried to deceive the IRS. However, if they don't find intent, they let you go with penalties, backtaxes and interest.

USA also has FATCA for example, which is designed (in theory) to catch rich businessmen who hide their money abroad. Basically, the US government expects Americans to tell them how much money they have in overseas accounts. The problem with FATCA is, most Americans who are regular people and have no knowledge of their liabilities end up getting screwed. So the IRS allows such individuals to sometimes get away with zero penalties. On the other hand if they find out someone knowingly hid money somewhere, the penalties are as high as half the amount in the account. In those cases, tax attorneys tell their billionaire clients to tell the US government to f**k off, give up their US citizenship and buy citizenship in any EU state which grants residency based on investment because there's no point giving the US government half a billion dollars when you can buy citizenship in malta for 500,000 euros.

So really speaking, I highly doubt that Messi was actively managing his money when he was 20 and 21 years old. As much as I like Messi, he sounds like an idiot (he might be a brilliant con artist but who knows). I've dealt with student athletes in my university back in the day and even though they're phenomenal in physical activities, a majority of them can't multiply simple digits. I'm not even exaggerating about this because I've actually taught cross multiplication to a 20 year basketball star because he was failing basic algebra.
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Moe66: You have no idea how many tax consultants are out there who give you bad advice. My friend had a tax consultant who told him he could claim some deductions on his taxes. My friend claimed those deductions for 4 years and saved around $12000. In the 4th year he received a letter from the IRS saying he's being audited. They pointed out the deduction and asked what it was for. He found out that his tax consultant read the deduction conditions wrong. He had to pay $30,000 with interest and penalties. The tax consultant said, "OOPS!" because you can't sue them for wrongdoing. Its their opinion. You take it or leave it.
@F4F , You will hear a lot about Tax f**k ups in near future Once UAE is done with VAT i cant see them stopping there are not introducing all other taxes , and all other GCC countries will follow them.
Unless Franco's minions came out and forged Messi's signature on those documents than any talk of a conspiracy is just flat-out stupid.

If the charges laid against were false and fabricated then you would have a point.

Prosecution have the body AND the smoking gun in this case. How do they not go after him?

I'm not saying Messi should go to jail but to think he should just get away scot-free after there are documents that prove he was complicit (albeit unknowingly) in the defrauding of the state in the sum of tens of millions of euros is ludicrous.

Get real.
^ Lol I think you need a dose of reality. There's nobody claiming he didn't do anything wrong which I feel you're struggling to grasp. The defense is making the argument that Jorge Messi was the one responsible and he needs to go to jail. That is the norm in tax cases. The prosecution is trying to really hard to connect Leo to this even when they don't have a case.

So you're saying he was involved unknowingly and he shouldn't go to jail, is willing to pay the fines but he still should be punished further? Lol How? Take away his first born before he becomes the new destroyer if Real Madrid?

Also I'm not really sure you notice how Spanish politics work. Spain is amongst the worst when it comes to corruption in europe. Barcelona is leading the separatist movement. So there is a clear motive to go after public figures. Governments have all the right to investigate wrongdoing but when your main prosecutor says there's nothing against messi but you still want to carry on by changing personnel it reeks of partisanship. You really sound naive and seem to think that if the government is going after someone it must be fair. Look up past cases in Spain for tax cheats. Almost no player was investigated for jail time offense. Coincidence that messi case is being dragged on and on?
Also, many times prosecution has a weak case but they choose to drag the case on and on hoping that the defendant would get fed up and go for a plea bargain where the defendant unwillingly accepts lesser charges resulting in a "victory" for the state. In messi's case if messi is acquitted if any wrongdoing entire Spain will erupt calling out the government's abusing of a catalonia public figure. It's a PR nightmare for them. They have to come out with a win here.
We're looking at Florenzi to replace Alves because Bellerin might not be available for a good price. He's 25 and seems to be a good choice being a regular goal scorer including that crazy goal vs Barça.

I think we should look at getting an LB to put some pressure on alba. Wolfsburg's rodriguez might be a good option to have. He is solid at the back and its good in attack.
I've always liked Florenzi, his a hard worker on the pitch and can pretty much play CM, RB and RW. Not to mention for the last few seasons his been playing 40+ games for Roma which makes him a great player to pick up.
Florenzi is a really good option.Like his work rate and leadership on the field, but again what happened to Aleix Vidal?
Are we done with him ?
Ter Stegen just pulled a huge blunder for Germany , recall him have couple of shockers for Germany before too.

Poor guy.
He's prone to making errors every now and then. Some days he plays like he's the best gk on the planet and then there are days when he's below average.
He's definitely one of the best Gk with his feet but god sometimes he makes such horrible mistakes... Im hoping those get drilled out of him in his Future barca years
He complains all the time about not being our #1 keeper for all matches. Then he goes and pulls stunts like these. I wish he had more humility.
In Germany a number of people are wondering why Ter Stegen is number 2 behind Neuer. It realistically should be Kevin Trapp from PSG.

Ter Stegen has never been very convincing in the National team. But I guess this will happen if you do not play every game for Barca. Then again Bravo is clearly far more reliable.
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I've seen him make more mistakes for Germany than for Barca
Damn Nolito scored a sexy goal against Bosnia!
Still don't know why the f**k he isn't signed for Barcelona yet,

This one is on our f*****g board , Lucho wanted him and our board wasn't willing to pay his fair value to Celta instead they asked Celta to let him leave on loan in a middle of a season.
So it seems like Messi has a bad back injury and Suarez won't play in the copa until a few games in. I know messi wants to win an international cup for argentina but this might be a good thing for Barça. All our players need a rest considering that we have to win the treble again next year.
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So sad if its true.

messi badly wants copa i believe he would even trade one of his ucl medal with it;)

No way messi would want to miss it. i think both will play like cr7 did in 2014 WC

yesterday we saw cr7 jogging around he was also avoiding challenges maybe he was saving himself for upcoming euros. what do you think guys? i maybe wrong though.
I think the fact that his never won a major title with Argentina is what hurts him the most. Its bizarre because Argentina always looked like they had the potential but apart from Sabella, no other manager got the best out of Messi, in fact just Argentina as a whole team.

With Cr7, his 31 and its imo, the last major tournament where he will have the ability to play top football. In 2018 by Russia, weather he makes it or not, i doubt a 33 year old Ronaldo will make a major impact.
I think msn have one more ucl win in them. Maybe next year they'll do it again. I don't see Suarez playing at barca for more than next year. Yes it sounds like blasphemy to even say that Suarez is leaving but I have a feeling next year is their final best year. Barca might not be able to keep up with their wages.

If we are going to chase the treble again msn need to be rested. I'd like messi to be completely rested. I know that messi wants to win an international tournament and I'd love it if he did but for me Barça comes first. If he gets devastated about the copa and then comes back wanting to prove a point again. Boom! Third treble.

Argentina has done the best when they've played around messi. They have aguero and di maria who are superstars and seem to want to play on their own. Higuain has been hot and cold. Argentina's problems are not with offense but defense with players who don't belong on the same field as messi, Aguero and adm. Build a team around messi and let him do his thing. Argentina will win everything.
So two great cups coming up! Copa America and Euro Cup! Who's your favourites to win?

Mine:
Copa America: Argentina or Ecuador
Euro Cup: Croatia or Ukraine
CROATIA YES :D
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@C Ukraine and Croatia has had a soft spot in my heart for Europe haha and who can complain about bright yellow jerseys and checkered jerseys (used to love playing with Croatia on FIFA World Cup on my N64)
EURO!!! ENglanddd!!!
Copa América: Colombia!!
Copa : Argentina
Euro : France or Spain
+1
I'm with MesQuUnClub! I'm really hoping Messi experiences some success with Argentina. And I am actually rooting for France for the Euro. I would love to see them go far. There is so much talent at their disposal especially up top.
Penaldo doing what he does best
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2 CL in 3 seasons? :)
+10
His mom?....ohhhhhhhhhh
+4
^His friend in Morocco ?
+9
Wearing his old man diaper cuz he shat himself?....tell us! The suspense is killing us!
All of the above
Dagaza: It was a indeed a master stroke by madrid when they signed cr7 3 years ago.
+7
You have to love the explanations that have already begun to flow. Possession stats don't matter, useless shots matter, you play ugly when you have to, it was hard for the ref to see the offside. haha I suppose Ovrebo not spotting the Pique handball is okay now?

I was driving to work this morning and on the radio during newshour the lady said, "Cristiano Ronaldo led Real Madrid to a victory". I almost spit my coffee. LOL
Casemiro's like, "Yeah sure. He made the difference".
Benzema's like, "Yeah bro. Welcome to Real Madrid!"
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Franky , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moSFlvxnbgk
+1
Cute. Let it go in less than 24 hours when you guys keep harping about things that happened 3 or 4 or 7 years ago. Haha

You do know that you're going to get this video posted as a reply to anything you or any madrid fans complain about in the future? ;-p
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