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LOL sell some loan to Glazers they need more loan
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Official: FIFA reject appeal of Barcelona against transfer ban, Barcelona won't be able to sign players in the next two transfer windows

note: barcelona's transfer ban will start after the ongoing window, can't sign in January and summer 2015, can sign again in January 2016

Zubi got 10 more days to plan for a year

Edit

Official: Barcelona announce they will appeal against FIFA's transfer ban at the Court of Arbitration for Sports #fcblive #CASLONA
They were always going to CAS with their appeal. Why would FIFA reject their own decision? They might have a hearing in 2-3 months but this matter will be resolved before the next transfer window.
So the ban is now for a year and a half? January 2015 & Summer and January of 2016 as well as forcing us to let go of the players we supposedly signed wrongly?!

Talk about Draconic measures. This looks like a witch hunt more than a suitable punishment (which should be given to every one of the thousands of clubs who violated the same rules).
No. Its going to be winter and summer transfer windows. Since nobody really makes big transfers in winter, we will end up buying new players only after 1.5 years. Good time to get our youngsters playing.
it MAY happen at other clubs but i highly doubt it happens anywhere near the extent at barca, i mean common there there kids flying in from korea, cameroon brazil etc who are not even teenagers yet. i dont think any club is doing such activity besides barca. wasn't there a big fuss because one of those kids wasn't allowed to play at all for some reason? i think the korean kid.
I realize it's against the rules, but these families and kids who move to Barcelona are as good as always MUCH better off then they were before. Ask Messi.

And we're far from the only club doing this.
I said it when Barca got the ban in the first place, it's stupid. Do you really think Asian/Middle eastern academies are good enough to produce the top footballing stars? They have a much better shot of making it big in Europe, especially if they train from a young age. Same goes for the American kids (North and South), it'd probably be better for them to get the European exposure early, since the best will inevitably head here anyway.
Benatia agrees terms with bayern.
If this happens

http://apocalypstick.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/patrick-bateman-axe-gif.gif
Good luck Mehdi, I was hoping Lucho is going to go after him, but it is ok. I'm happy with what we have right now, as long as Bartra gets a good look and Mash plays CDM.
https://vine.co/v/M39qVmwm1Zz

OMFG 24 months ban
Biting someone on shoulder is much dangerous then trying to break someone's nose , its a physical sport , man up !!!!!!!
The best part is Ramos' acting after the punch where he pretends that its Mandzukic who is trying to cheat. Pepe's like, "What's the big deal? In my house, this is called Christmas morning!"
MT: A slap is okay in your world I suppose?
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Show the whole thing, then decide which part was more injurious:
http://youtu.be/GuhRDn4HIbU

I'd personally also classify it more as a slap than a punch, but I can understand it viewed as a punch.
This is more of a punch:
http://youtu.be/Sah-_BAwS64

If you enjoy acting, you'll enjoy this:
http://youtu.be/vHahaV3rME0
Notice the aggregate score.
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Mt,

What exactly are you saying?
Mt,

You can't be serious.

Humour:

'Some theoreticians of the comic consider exaggeration to be a universal comic device'.[19] It may take different forms in different genres, but all rely on the fact that 'the easiest way to make things laughable is to exaggerate to the point of absurdity their salient traits'.[20]

If you seriously thought that OMFG 24 months ban was anything but a joke, I feel for you. On another note, of course it's heat of the moment. Pretty much anything that happens on the pitch is heat of the moment. Unless you're talking about Brandao's head-butt in the tunnel against Motta it's safe to assume that it's heat of the moment.
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@JRaty Mainly that Ramos' reaction was heat of the moment. Still idiotic nonetheless (putting a potential expulsion decision in the official's hands).
Mandzukic is a wind-up merchant, a la Ramos and Pepe.

@Franky4fingers I'm neither condeming nor condoning in my comments, just trying to be accurate and call a spade what it is. Give context and perspective.
Is hyperbole okay in your world?

And if you don't accept the "heat of the moment" argument then EVERY single footytube user would get the "OMFG 24 months ban" due to comments made in an "emotional" moment.
(See what I did there?...)
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Hyperbole? Is nonsense okay in your world? What I think should be done is they need to stamp out (pun intended) all forms of intentional violence from the sport. This nonsense that within "context" of the situation these things happen so we should consider is grade A b s. We go around accepting and forgiving these little instances and you have Ramos who throws around elbows like its nothing. The fact that you are not condemning it is the problem with football fans. You call it "idiotic" when it comes to Ramos' reaction but condemn Mandzukic as a wind-up merchant.

Mandzukic did exaggerate but do you want me to post videos where Ramos is intentionally throwing elbows in his opponents' face and getting away with it? Give me a break.

And I don't think you did anything there. It didn't make any sense. Reacting in a split second on the field and typing up a post from the comfort of your home are two completely different situations.
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@Franky4fingers Irony/hypocrisy/nonsense/hyperbole/etc.
Call it what you want.
You call Ramos' elbow "intentional violence" but nowhere mention Suarez' bites. Nor do you mention Mathieu v Getafe:
http://youtu.be/chvpbt8zA6I

Sure, let's get rid of intentional violence. But you also understand that not all violent actions deserve the exact punishment, correct?
A Ramos elbow is worse than a Ramos punch. Therefore a 10 match ban for either violent act wouldn't be fair.
Similarly, a Ramos knee to the head is worse than a Ramos elbow. Agreed?

Plus, as I mentioned, how do you discriminate between "intentional violence" and "idiotic reaction due to the heat of the moment"? If there's a difference, how would you punish the two?

Also, how effective of a deterrent would such punishments be? The person would be 100% habilitated after a suspension, and they'd never commit the same act again?

Like I said, "Mandzukic is a wind-up merchant, a la Ramos and Pepe". Which means there an ABUNDANT amount of videos of all 3 simulating and elbowing and kicking and expressing incredulity.

To summarize, let's use your own words:
"The best part is Ramos' acting after the punch where he pretends that its Mandzukic who is trying to cheat"
later followed with:
"Mandzukic did exaggerate"
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Mt,

So according to you whenever someone talks about someone doing something bad, that person has to mention all previous incidents of similar nature? Talk about hypocrisy, because you yourself don't do that. You're full of s**t.

"Two wrongs make a right" is a fallacy of relevance, in which an allegation of wrongdoing is countered with a similar allegation. Its antithesis, "two wrongs don't make a right", is a proverb used to rebuke or renounce wrongful conduct as a response to another's transgression.

The unstated premise is that breaking the law (or the wrong) is justified, as long as the other party also does so. It is often used as a red herring, or an attempt to change or distract from the issue. For example:

Speaker A: President Williams lied in his testimony to Congress. He should not do that.
Speaker B: But you are ignoring the fact that President Roberts lied in his Congressional testimony!

Maybe we should submit you as a example to be used for the wikipedia article?
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Suarez' bites? LOL See, strawman again. READ my posts CLOSELY. When he bit, I said he should be banned. A few posts below you wrote a sorry apology for Ramos but you completely ignored that I wrote this in the same post:

"I didn't think Suarez' ban should have been lifted. He is a repeat offender and even though his biting is more reactionary and harmless like a petulant child than someone throwing punches, it definitely is inappropriate behavior for a grown up."

I'm not suggesting any particular punishment for anything yet. I just said that Ramos usually gets away with it because this is Spain. Remember, intention is important in any crime. You could accidentally clash with someone and break his bone and its okay for me. But if you decide to intentionally slap, bite, poke in eye, punch, spit, headbutt…nothing is acceptable to me.

By the laws of the game, simulation is a yellow card. Violence is a straight red. I prefer that refs stick with both these rules strictly.
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"The best part is Ramos' acting after the punch where he pretends that its Mandzukic who is trying to cheat"
later followed with:
"Mandzukic did exaggerate"
----
I personally think Madzukic exaggerated but you can never know the extent of anybody's injuries. When Zuniga hit Neymar in the back and Neymar went down screaming in agony, most people in the bar where I was watching said, "Get up you w****r!" Turns out he fractured his vertebra. What are the odds of that happening? This is why refs give the benefit of doubt to the person who is injured or pretending to be injured.

Whereas, Ramos knew very well he slapped/punched Mandzukic intentionally. So the oscar goes to….drum roll….RAMOS!!
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@JRaty "So according to you whenever someone talks about someone doing something bad, that person has to mention all previous incidents of similar nature?"
No, I didn't mention anything about "all previous incidents".
My point was that I like what you've done with your glass house, it complements your stone collection very well.

I don't exactly follow the part where you started paraphrasing wikipedia. I didn't say Ramos actions were justified. Further, I agreed with banning intentional violence. I was asking how do you punish the various acts?
More importantly, how do you determine whether they were intentional or not? Surely there are grey areas.

@Franky4fingers Yes, I apologize about the Suarez' bites part (you said that below, tho I disagree and think his ban was excessive but agree it shouldn't be lifted completely).
My point remains: Song's actions were worse, and Mathieu's could have a desperate argument also made that he had a Medel moment. Point is, you'd only be up in arms if it were a Madrid player. Hence, I'm questioning your sincerity and genuineness on the issue.
It's like listening to Mourinho's latest lunacy about how he's finally developed a squad able to beat those damn clubs that park the bus and are anti-football.

"I just said that Ramos usually gets away with it because this is Spain"
Ummm, not sure how to respond. Mourinho-esque.

You raise a GOOD point:
"You could accidentally clash with someone and break his bone and its okay for me. But if you decide to intentionally slap, bite, poke in eye, punch, spit, headbutt…nothing is acceptable to me"
What if Ramos elbowed you, and then you elbowed Ramos back. Is that different?

"By the laws of the game, simulation is a yellow card. Violence is a straight red. I prefer that refs stick with both these rules strictly."
I agree, but life isn't that black and white.
Just the other day Costa got a yellow against Burnley for simulation, even though the keeper made enough contact that it would have taken down much weaker players such as El Haddadi. Thoughts?

More black and white and gray:
"I personally think Madzukic exaggerated"
You agree there is NO WAY anyone can be legitimately punished with the argument of "I personally think"?
Thus, you should consider that officials also cannot follow the rules strictly when it's hard to know, even in retrospect.
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Mt,

This is just more of your fallacious logic that the previous actions of Barcelona players have anything do at all with what Ramos did. The only possible, even though weak, argument why that could ever be the case is that the people condemning Ramos have defended similar actions in the past, but you've shown nothing of the sort. And even then, all you'd prove is that the people condemning Ramos are hypocrites, not that they're in any way wrong in condemning Ramos. I know that I condemned Suarez, and I know that I condemned Song. All you've done is post links to Barcelona players doing something similar in the past and by some stupid leap of logic assume that that somehow invalidates those who are condemning Ramos for what he did against Atleti.

I post wikipedia because you don't seem to understand that what you're saying makes no sense.

If you're familiar with FIFA rules, you know that offenses made after the whistle is blown are punished much harsher than offenses made during play, because there's no way they can be construed as a late or reckless challenge. After the whistle is blown, it's clearly unwarranted violence. Mandzukic challenge was during play. It was reckless, but it was a challenge. What Ramos did was after the whistle and can in no way be a challenge. What he did can only be seen as unwarranted violence after the whistle has blown.
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If you're making an argument about referees opinions and their mistakes, then I'm with you. But what I dislike about Spain is the lack of discipline amongst the authorities when it comes to such actions. In Spain, unless the referee includes an incident in the match report, RFEF will not review the incident even if there is video showing violence. In England, they don't just rely on the match report. This is why BPL's brand is much more successful than La Liga in terms of marketing. There is no conspiracy theory about it. Punishment in Spain is a lot more lenient than England. Diving is more acceptable in Spain than England.

You will not be find me supporting Song or Mathieu. Unless players receive lengthy punishments for violent behavior its not going to change. The same goes for diving and play acting. Barcelona ended up getting a bad name for their on field antics during the mourinho days. Nobody really remembers mourinho's tactics though. One of the interesting things about Mou's time in Madrid was after the 5-0 demolition, he trained his team to seek and destroy. The next outing where the game drew 1-1 was physical annihilation of Barca. Pep and his players were shocked at what was happening. The next game they started flopping around as soon as they got touched because refs don't caution everything that is worth cautioning for fear of ruining a contest. But in the process they ruin the game for the teams.

I actually admired Mourinho until the eye poke. To me that was the lowest anybody could get as a coach. And the shameful thing is he didn't get punished because the ref didn't include it in the match report. That's Spain for you.
The fact is that bites, slaps/slight punches, etc. are basically the same thing. It might hurt for a few seconds and then it's over. They are punishable offences in football because of the violent intent, not for being actually dangerous to the opponent.

Suarez got deservedly a long ban because he's a repeat offender. So is Ramos, for example, but he always gets away with these thing. And he does things that actually are dangerous.
El Haddadi in a nutshell:
http://youtu.be/3elItreM-r8?t=1m18s
Its probably a cliche to say he's the next Messi but he does have several traits similar to Messi. He doesn't let the ball go easily, he has a great first touch, he has an eye for passes and of course, his finishing is top class. I would have preferred to let him go on loan this season to a good club where he would get first team action regularly. Unless, Lucho plans to bring him in for games against smaller teams.
Franky with deulofeu gone , i'm sure Haddadi & Traoré will get lot more minutes , i'm not sure about sending our players on loan , especially when the clubs don't use them as starters , though i'm happy that sevila is willing to use Suarez as starter and hopeful that deulofeu remains injury free and get lot more min with sevila then his tenure at everton .

I was off the idea that Halilović will be the first B player to get promotion but Haddadi , Traoré & Samper will give him tough competition .
Halilovic is settling in. Samper plays in a different position than him anyway. At the moment we have Suarez, Messi, Neymar, Pedro with Rafa and Iniesta having the ability to push up. I thought Deulofeu should have stayed and was surprised when Barca shipped him off. I suppose Sevilla guaranteed him a starting spot which he wouldn't get at Barca. I don't see Munir getting starts this year. He might get a few subs here and there but overall, I think we're saturated up top.

Samper is the next Busi so once Xavi and Song exit, there is place for him. Halilovic might (if he develops) finally take up Iniesta's spot but that is a good 2 years away. Munir will tear up defenses at Barca B this year so let's see what Lucho does with him. I think Barcelona has to make some tough decisions in the next couple of years about a lot of players : Traore, Halilovic, Suarez, Munir, Samper, Deulofeu; because we surely can't give a place to all of them.
Deulofeu went on loan because he wasn't able to impress Enrique and he told him in no uncertain terms that he won't be getting a lot of minutes this season. Deulofeu has been repeating that he needs to improve defensively, so I can only assume that that's the reason Enrique gave as to why Deu wouldn't have been playing.
I'm excited to see how Suarez develops this year.

Our new batch of young talent ( to take over from current players) includes:

Munir (CF - Messi), Halilovic (RAM/CAM - Iniesta), Dennis Suarez (LW/CAM - Iniesta), Sergi Samper (CM - Busquets), Traore (LW/CF- Pedro),
Then we have the young established first team players:
Sergi Roberto (CM- Xavi), Deulofeu (RW - Alexis), Rafinha (CAM - Iniesta).

Then we have Bagnack, Le, Patric, Grimaldo who could potentially develop into first team defenders not to mention Bartra and Montoya.

What do you guys think? Dreamteam #3?
Samper is something else. Reads the game like Busquets, holds the ball like Xavi and dribbles like Iniesta. And Traore, well, he's a crazy physical specimen.
Curious, what exactly about El Haddadi says that he's "not ready"? His age?
Can someone give me concrete examples? Because if he's not ready, then I'd say 95% of the squad should get the same treatment he gets.
Physicality, for starters. If he plays against your favorites, Levante, he will get manhandled. Let's not talk about him facing your favorite thugs from Madrid, Pepe and Ramos. He is good enough to start but we have way too much talent ahead of him.

I think he should be subbed in for games where we are in a winning position. He could start for games against smaller sides.
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Mt,

First, the amount of games played. He's got a whopping 11 games to his name in the Segunda. Second, his consistency. He played two good games this preseason, but did little in the others. And it's telling that he only produced in the two 6-0 routs. Third, he's got no experience against though sides, having only played against Segunda teams and the like. Fourth, he's got a tendency to freeze when there's not a clear option for him to take. Happened even in his game against Leon when he got possession and there was no way forward.
@Franky4fingers Actually, him being physically capable is why I'd start him. Messi is the only other player I've seen to have stronger balance with the ball at his feet.
Can you give me examples of him not being able to handle physical play?
It's hard to conclude he'd be manhandled by Pepe/Ramos/Levante when he's yet to be outmuscled by anyone thus far.

@JRaty
Those whopping 11 contain just as much football quality as the whopping 4 preseason matches he's played the past month.
What does "did little" in a match mean? Because he didn't score?
Here's El Haddadi doing little v Nice:
http://youtu.be/NI4LQQt_qQQ
Here's El Haddadi doing little v Napoli:
http://youtu.be/xhm7PNIyXzs

If he has no experience against tough sides, then you can't conclude either way that he's "ready" or "not ready".

"he's got a tendency to freeze when there's not a clear option for him to take"
Post vid link. Preferably the Leon match.
Mt,

Doing little, as in he did little worth mentioning. Which is why his highlights are only a whopping 4 minutes over two games, and even those 4 minutes are mostly nothing to write home about.

11 + 4 is still only 15, and he was a starter in only 4 of them. He's got less than 500 minutes for Barca B.

A player is not ready until proven to be. The fact that the he has no experience against good opponents means that he's unproven. You've got no basis on which to say that he's ready for the A team because he has never faced A team opposition, so the position that he is ready is both completely unfounded and a huge gamble. You do not prove a statement by not testing it and then saying that there's nothing refuting it, you prove a statement by testing it and showing that the results support it. My record against La Liga teams is as good as Munirs.

Show me a Leon clip that has all his touches, and I show you where he froze. Expecting me to rewatch 90 minutes and edit that down to un-highlights in response to you posting highlights is a bit lopsided as far as effort goes.
To me it's quite simple: no matter how talented you are, you should be introduced slowly. Otherwise you'll get cocky, or worn out, or fail to progress if you can't keep performing well every game.

It was the same for Messi, Xavi and Iniesta, the three best players of Barça in decades.
Mt sure loves Munir.

But I'm sure he wouldn't praise him so much and talk about Munir-Messi-Suarez attack if it didn't mean benching Neymar.
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Maaza,

If Munir turns out to be good enough to bench Neymar, I'll be ecstatic. How great would that be? But if ifs and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a merry christmas. Hoping for something won't make it true.
I think Munir has potential to be like Messi. But we also have Bojan as an example. He had a stellar record but ended up not reaching his potential. He is still 23 and could revive his career but that won't happen with us. Bojan's big problem was he was shoved into the first team in a hurry and then received call ups for the Spanish national team. He couldn't handle the pressure and just stopped performing.

Its very important that raw talent gets eased into top competition. Sometimes players are naturally conditioned mentally to handle the rigors of being a sportstar. Then there are times where they can't handle the limelight and either collapse or become complacent. Plus, physical conditioning is of utmost importance. As athlete if you pick up a serious injury initially, you're screwed for life. That's why I think Munir should be slowly released into the first team. If he shines as soon as he's given an opportunity, then let him have it. But he has to prove that he deserves a spot ahead of players like Dennis Suarez, Deulofeu, Rafinha and even Neymar.
Just realized we have no mini el classico this year because rm castilla relegated to third division.I thought they did hold their nerve,but no.
no dani alves or marcelo for dunga's squad..
meh.... at this point in time dunga is right... he is trying to build his team now from scratch... he needs to call up players like coutinho, alex, danilo, tradelli, marquinhos etc... players who have never had a shot in the national team to see who should and who shouldn't remain with the team.... notice even the captain, thiago silva wasn't called up....

dont worry... marcelo and alves' place is assured in the national team... at least as long as they perform
Nice to see some new players finally getting a shot. Clearly the Brazilian team needs and overhaul and they have to test as many new prospects now as they possibly can
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I miss Costa today for some reason.
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How was that not a red?
Mario Suarez thinks he's Luis Suarez. Nice goalkeeping lol.
Oh boy, practicing already, huh?
Watch El Haddadi, Messi, and Suarez highlights to grow the spine.
I didnt punch nobody..
Love it. My comments about madrid get taken out swiftly while all the garbage posted on madrid forum stays put. Whoever deleted my comment kindly explain what exactly was itching you so much about my post?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuhRDn4HIbU

I presume this is what your post was about F4f .

It funny no ? that majority of madridsta were of the idea that Suarez 4 month ban should upheld and its justified , but don't even bother to speak a s**t or type the stories of justification / fairness when it comes to their animals .

I would like to see if FIFA / LFP take any action against ramos , but i'm sure fifa & Madrid fans will end up with idea that biting someone on shoulder is more dangerous then trying to break someones nose - SMH

LOL F4F your post about up votes also got deleted , someone really love you here ;)
LFP would take action against Ramos? LOL This is Madrid we're talking about. When a coach pokes another coach in the eye and RFEF/La Liga fail to say a word, this is nothing.

I didn't think Suarez' ban should have been lifted. He is a repeat offender and even though his biting is more reactionary and harmless like a petulant child than someone throwing punches, it definitely is inappropriate behavior for a grown up. I thought FIFA went too far with the "no training/no friendlies" ruling. But it was a knee jerk reaction to Suarez embarrassing them at the biggest show on the face of the planet.

As for Ramos - This is who he is and this what Madrid prefers. Their defense consists of Pepe, Ramos, Marcelo with Alonso at the head. All four are what I call, football thugs. We don't need to comment on Pepe because we all know what he's all about. Ramos, well he has more red cards than anyone in top flight football and he's gotten away with several more red card situations. Marcelo stamps, kicks, plays dirty when the going gets tough for Madrid. Lately, I've seen Carvajal react angrily since he's now a starter and is probably learning from his colleagues. Madrid used to play Arbeloa regularly who is also another thug. Compared to these guys, Varane looks like an angel.

What annoys me the most is the attitude amongst football fans that bad tackles are part of the game. Certain teams have mastered the art of avoiding punishment and still making intentionally hurtful tackles. Most of the strategy is based around the fact that refs do not hand out cards for every tackle worthy of a yellow or red. Is that cheating? Somewhat because there is intention to deceive. If the ref does send these players off, the coaches attack RFEF from the club pulpit talking about favoritism and what not putting pressure on them for future games.

They are deleting my posts because some of these kids from Madrid forum can't stomach the truth. So they flag it.
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@Franky4fingers Check my comments above about "wind-up merchants" and "hyperbole", they resemble a mirror.

Your conspiracy theories are Mourinho-esque (who's not representative of Madrid at all).

MANY Madridistas despise Ramos for exactly the same reasons you do.

Calling Marcelo and Alonso "football thugs" is a desperate reach for logic. Equivalent to a Madridista trying to convince me to click on a "Cristiano Never Dives" video link. No thanks for the spam.

Carvajal "reacts angrily"? Yes, straight reds for frowning.

Arbeloa is a thug? Let me guess, you also want Spain punished for all International competitions as well. That squad consist of Alonso and Ramos as well.

"Certain teams have mastered the art of avoiding punishment and still making intentionally hurtful tackles."
Can you name these certain teams?

"Is that cheating? Somewhat because there is intention to deceive."
So, what are your thoughts on diving?

"They are deleting my posts because some of these kids from Madrid forum can't stomach the truth."
How much do you want to footybet that it's a Cule?

Whoever's deleting your posts don't forget to buy them a Christmas present.
Lots of strawman there. Its typical response from people who don't understand the post or frantically want to post a response.

It is well accepted that "diving" and "playacting" are cheating. However, intentional rough tackling is not generally considered cheating. Because we have people like you who think its part of the game. Sorry, Fail, in my book.

Marcelo scissor chopping Cesc. Marcelo stamping on pedro's shin. My memory might just be a bit better than yours.

Alonso? CDR. Alonso is on a yellow. He literally grabs iniesta from behind around his hips while two other players slam into him. Nobody is touching the ball except Iniesta. Nobody gets a card. That's just one incident. Its a thanksgiving greeting in Mt's world.

Watch Carvajal's recent games. Nobody said he should get a red card for anything. I said he seems to be on his way. Strawman is the last resort for loose arguments.

Arbeloa steps on Villa's leg not to mention several tackles. I forgot to mention another cheater, Carvalho. Use youtube and enlighten yourself. I won't spoon feed you.

Madrid for starters under Mourinho. The gang I named earlier. Netherlands a few years ago. Stoke.

It is a Cule for sure but I mentioned Madrid fans flag my comment. Read closely buddy.

The whole "conspiracy theory" point is also grade A nonsense. There is video evidence accompanied by stats. When a player gets the most red cards, is on video throwing punches, elbows, stamps on others, its not a conspiracy theory. Maybe you need to learn how to analyze data before forming an opinion.
Grapes that you miss are always sour.

http://bit.ly/1kSxFJC
+3
For about 2 seasons this hypocrite drooled over possibility of buying Suarez .
+5
^ You don't know that for sure. There was interest at one point but it was short-lived.
+2
Suarez tapped up Madrid quite a bit, but we refused to sign him for reasons that can only be speculated.
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Calm down, he was kidding.
+1
Poor Suarez,he was denied by his dream club to join there.it's happening every year sadly,it was happened to neymar last year as well.even Mathieu does have a word or two in this case.

Rm fans recent comments make all perfect sense.
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Sure, Real Madrid refused to sign Suarez. That's what happened.
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Please don't fool yourselves , as soon as AM showed their dick to perez when he went to them for falcao , he only had one striker who could fill his shirt sale hunger & that was suarez , only period during which he was not interested or lost interest in him was after that Wc bite incident .
Asasiyun: Clubs chase players and one can only "confirm" it until the club announces the signing. Until then every pursuit is a rumor. It is also a rumor that madrid was desperately trying to sign neymar. It is also a rumor that barca wanted to sign Silva three years ago. Do you have sources for football rumors which are more reliable?
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Don't fool ourselves? You're only echoing rumours the Spanish outlets feed you.
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@ Asasi , Not Spanish media , to be precise they're known as Madrid mouthpiece " marca " & it was not just them it was reported by majority of media outlets .

Btw on same issue , I always find it hard to digest when Madrid fan start acting like tax specialist or sport law specialist after reading a single poor article off marca .

Glad,rm fans are getting every news from perez himself.
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We were gonna sign Suarez after the WC imo, but after his bite Perez pulled away.

Malik, "shirt sales hunger"? You do know most of the money goes to Adidas from our shirt sales right?
Malik, 'Marca' would count as Spanish media. They're considered Real Madrid's mouthpiece to foreigners, but they're anything but that. They've been unreliable.

And I have no idea what you're talking about in your second paragraph.

Franky, yes I do actually. For those of you interested in receiving news from reliable Spanish sources, I recommend 'ABC' and 'El Confidencial'. I also know of some insider sources close to the Santiago Bernabeu who've been spot on for a while now.
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Hikmat where do you get your information from? Barca board confirmed that we went in for Suarez before the World Cup and they were waiting to sign him until after. So doesn't matter where or what Perez pulled out of, Suarez was always ours.
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Sanchez, Barcelona's board 'confirming' something doesn't really mean much nowadays.
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So your "sources" from inside bernabeu ate more reliable than barca making announcements?
If you're asking me who's word I'd trust more, then yes, I would trust my sources over Barcelona's board members. Why would I trust Barca's board, especially from the last couple of years?
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You can trust your fairy god mother if you want. I'm just saying its a bit too much to go around saying you have inside sources within Bernabeu while everything that you don't believe is a rumor. As Madrid fan, you'd trust the sounds that Perez' farts make over anything coming from Barcelona. Doesn't mean everything YOU hear is true.
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@Hikmat , i guess i have posted the most number of comments on ' recovering transfer money through shirt sale ' stupidity , but apparently you haven't read a single post by me on same issue , BTW money from shirt sale goes to two guaranteed partied , one is adidas and other is Spanish government , and other depends distribution of sales depends on the contract between adidas & different clubs .

You're welcome .

@Asas , you last post is a reason you have to believe on what Barcelona board is saying , I know our board room contain bunch of idiots but i don't think they're stupid enough to pull another creative accounting trick especially on a transaction that will be the most scrutinized transfer out of all transfers done this season .

Didn't Oscar Tabarez come out and say during the world cup that Suarez's Barca deal was basically done?
Franky, I think you're interpreting my comments the wrong way.

I don't believe nor trust just anything. I actually prefer to determine the validity and reliability of where the information comes from before I take it seriously.

Once you've been following Spanish football, and everything associated with it, for a lengthy period, you start to develop an understanding of who to trust. Marca isn't a source you want to be referencing, whereas you're likely to be safe with El Confidencial.

My sources have been more reliable than Barcelona's board members in the last couple of years, hence I'm naturally going to trust them.

Its not about Real Madrid v Barcelona. I'm not going to blindly follow something/someone just because it's associated with Real Madrid.

And I never said nor gave any indication that everything I don't believe is a rumour. Our lovely friend Malik made an assertion, didn't back his claims, and when I questioned them, he gave me...Marca. I only told you I had insider sources because you asked.
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I didn't deny Real Madrid's interest in Luis Suarez. And 'competitive bidding', as some would like to call it, is likely prevalent in virtually every competitive club.

Nothing new here.

The case with Suarez wasn't a 'Real Madrid v Barcelona' event as some Cules would prefer to believe. Neither was there a genuinely long-lasting interest in the Uruguayan.
Asasiyun: I've been following Barcelona for over 15 years now. I've been through all the drama associated with transfer wars between the clubs. I've heard all the rumors surrounding Beckham's transfer and the ones around Luis Figo's. You can claim one source is better than the other, but there is no doubt that Real Madrid were pursuing Suarez. We have seen in the past that Madrid deliberately goes after Barca's transfer targets just to mess up the deal even if they are not interested.

The way transfers work is if a moneybags club like Madrid calls up a club to enquire about a certain player, the player's price goes up immediately even if they are not really interested. If Madrid table an offer, then the player and club start demanding astronomical prices. Barcelona isn't a tiny club either but they don't have the financial muscle as Madrid. So Barcelona has to convince the player using other means. These so called "rumors" about a club's pursuit of a certain player sometimes come from such situations. It wasn't just Marca but several other publications were talking about it in Spain and England.

Historically, Madrid has been able to take away Barca targets. But lately, Barcelona stature in world football has risen dramatically which makes it very difficult for Madrid to just walk in and pick up the player. Remember, where there is smoke, there is fire. In this case, its a dirty bomb. ;)
Honestly, all of last year Suarez was only linked to Madrid by every outlet because you guys were looking for a replacement for Benzema. Barca only started getting mentioned after Barca went trophyless and decided to change things top-to-bottom. Madrid's interest in Suarez started waning after Suarez' bite, James' performance and Benz' great outing at the WC. I would say, if the above three things didn't happen, Madrid would have been in for Suarez.
This is why I don't trust just any report. Most reports are formulated from a convenient event. Take for example Karim Benzema going through a goalless drought. This opens the opportunity for certain media outlets to take advantage of his misfortune, and come up with a story that lay fans will find believable.

"Benzema is going through a goalless streak, so reports of signing (insert prestigious name here) must be true!"

From what I gather, Real Madrid were never interested in finding a 'replacement' for Benzema this Summer. I don't think the board wanted to interfere too much with the 'BBC' (a ridiculous name, I know). What they were looking for was a replacement for Alvaro Morata, or a player that wouldn't necessarily oust Benzema from the 11, but would provide adequate support and competition to keep Benzema sharp.

There was interest in Luis Suarez at one point, and I think it was at its peak last Summer, but after signing Gareth Bale, Suarez was never a top priority for Real Madrid. Any interest that remained in him dissipated after his unsportsmanlike conduct during the World Cup.
I don't think what you're saying makes factual sense. Seeking replacement for Morata? And they go after Falcao, a top 10 striker to replace a nobody? Or are the rumors surrounding Falcao also not true?

What you're not accepting is Madrid has never been shy to break its team up for the flavor of the month. They've done it many times before. It doesn't sound too unreal if Madrid was thinking about selling Benzema because honestly, as a brand, Benzema is nowhere even close to Bale and Ronaldo. Having a powerhouse name such a falcao or Suarez makes absolute sense for Perez' galactico policy. Not selling Benzema, Di Maria, khedira makes 100% sense on a tactical level and I'd agree with you on that but that's how Perez operates.
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