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I'd say the possibility for all Spanish teams to advance is there. Barca, Real, and Atleti are all pretty much expected to get out of any group they get placed in, and Valencia got super lucky. Sevilla has it tough but I think they can surprise Juve, and maybe City. Of course if Sevilla do go out, we know who's winning the EL :P
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Borussia dortmound? :p
Yeah Dortmund certainly look the task to win. I forgot they were there, just so used to them being a CL team
Sevilla has to take care of business at home. The Sanchez Pizjuan is always hostile, and they back their team all the way. Juve isnt as strong as before, while City I think are strong. But they win their games at home, they can at least be runners up
Sevilla will be very lucky to get out of their group, it will be interesting to see how well the Spanish do all together though.

I don't think that all will be going through to the second stage but to see which ones do will be exciting.
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I think Sevilla could suprise Jueventus
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Juventus is not going to be as strong as they were in recent years. They have lost Tevez, Vidal, Pirlo, plus I think they reached their peak in last year's final. Will be very hard for the manager to motivate his team this year.

Also they started the campaign with a loss to Udinese. Given how dominant they have been in Serie A in recent years, this is imo a sign of things to come.
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All 4 but Sevilla will go through.. Sevilla just don't have the depth to compete and get out of a group like that.
@Tanmay I disagree. Anyone who watches Juve thoroughly will know what I am talking about. All these seasons people have been saying it is over for us yet time and time again we shut them up and win Serie A.

We may have lost important players, however we still have many players who have gelled the team together and we have loyal players who sweat and bleed for the jersey such as Claudio, Super Gigi and Giorgio. As for the Udinese loss it was a small setback and despite our 67% possession and 18 shots we could not finish, they did and they won in the end, move on.

We proved that we are still dominant and the evidence comes from beating Lazio in the Suppercoppa despite being two weeks behind in pre season workouts.

Are Barca done after the 4-0 defeat? No. So why should Juve be done after a measly 1-0 defeat. GET A GRIP!

As for the Champions League, I acknowledge Sevilla as a good team and City as a tough side, however ironically last season this exact forum had been doubting Juve and look what happened made it to the CL final and completed the double.

I will let Juve do the talking.
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For me Juve have a 50-50 chance to finish first in their group alongside city. If anyone but those two qualify, I will be shocked.

@Juventusfc, haven't followed Juve's transfer this window, who did you guys get and will they improve your team?
Tbh, I'm just praying City make it through, we for whatever reason find a way to put ourselves in the a tough situation.
Wow we got a really great draw. Couldn't be HappieR!
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Zubi, Belletti, Puyol and Abidal take part in the draw and we get a relatively nice group. Coincidense?
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^ UEFALONA , coincidence ?

I think not ;)
Honestly when I saw Leverkusen draw Barca I remembered Messi and the demolition of Leverkusen last time. It must have been a sinister laugh for all the Barca reps present

Also please go easy on Roma their Italy's only other team lol.



JK ANNIHILATE THEM!
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TBF that time they showed us lots of respect , somehow it felt they knew that barca will blow them apart and they were like ' f**k it ' lets enjoy this thrashing ,

Remember two players even havening an argument over swapping shirts with Messi during halftime .

This time around they will be more cautious for sure .
Will Messi score 5 again vs Bayer
Yes
PLEASE YES!
I really hope he doesn't, at this point I think he needs to show people mercy lol
Messi winning the Uefa player of the year was the obvious choice but I just wanted congratulate him and you guys.

+11
Also congrats to Luis Suarez for getting the 2nd place with whopping 3 votes, ahead of Ronaldo who got 2 votes.
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^ you know what's more surprising then Suarez finishing ahead of ronaldo ? Spain jurno from MARCA voted for messi :) poor guy , he will be fired by tomorrow morning .
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Thanks bro, here's to hopefully another solid season and best of luck for Bayern this year! Bayern looking even better
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Group B and D are the most competitive imo.
Madrid finally get a slightly tougher group than usual, while we get a slightly easier group than usual.
#RIPArsenal #LuckyChelsea

I'm really happy for Atleti and Valencia though!

CAN'T WAIT FOR CL!!
Wait what? We had some luck in knock out stages the last couple of season,but we always get tough groups lol
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2014: Madrid Liverpool Basel Ludogorets -- then Schalke Atleti Juve

2013: Madrid Galatasary Juve Copenhagen -- then Schalke BVB Bayern Atleti

2012: Madrid BVB City Ajax (first tough group and Madrid finished 2nd) -- then United Galatasary BVB

2011: Madrid Lyon Ajax Dinamo -- then CSKA APOEL (LOL) Bayern

Generally speaking, Madrid get teams/draws that are more favourable than we do. There was 1 season in which you got tough draws and you should have gotten knocked out against United -- and then got out against BVB.
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All thos groups expect the one from last season are tough ones. We did get lucky in knock out rounds,but I was talking about group stages.
@Pejvl

I kinda meant generally speaking (Group and route to semi's/finals)
Even group F Iooks good , traveling to Russia is not easily TBF
Group H is a joke. The other groups are quite balanced. I think our group is decent but city get a difficult draw yet again. Chelsea and especially united got lucky.

I was hoping we will avoid any Russian clubs but we still have to travel to Minsk in winter. Brrrrr...
Zlatan tweeted this yesterday:

"MFF in Champions League. One day I hope to experience the Champions League in Malmö on the pitch. Congratulations! "

Zlatan gets what Zlatan wants! PSG and Malmö in the same group!
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Some fantastic draws! WE GET LEVERKUSEN!

PSG MADRID
CITY JUVE
CHELSEA PORTO
BAYERN ARSENAL (LOLLLLL)
Great! And now we can't get Wolfsburg from pot 4!!
this is actually getting boring now, what is 4 or 5 years in a row that we get an insane team, its the same with City as well, i feel for them... MU on the otherhand, f*****g wankers :(
Puyol & Abidal :')
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Arsenal in group with bayern
Messi's goal against Bayern voted best of CL 2014/2015


http://www.uefa.com/goal-of-the-season/result/index.html


Ter Stegen's save against Bayern voted best of CL 2014/2015

http://www.uefa.com/save-of-the-season/result/index.html



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0
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3
0
0
1
1
2
3
1
1
2
0
0
1
1
3
3
1
0
1
0
0
1
1
4
3
-1
3
2
1
0
1
2
5
3
1
0
1
0
0
1
1
6
1
0
1
1
0
1
0
1
7
1
0
0
0
0
1
0
1
8
1
0
0
0
0
1
0
1
9
1
0
0
0
0
1
0
1
10
1
0
0
0
0
1
0
1
11
1
0
0
0
0
1
0
1
12
1
0
0
0
0
1
0
1
13
1
0
0
0
0
1
0
1
14
1
0
0
0
0
1
0
1
15
0
-1
2
1
1
0
0
1
16
0
-1
1
0
1
0
0
1
17
0
-1
1
0
1
0
0
1
18
0
-1
1
0
1
0
0
1
19
0
-2
3
1
1
0
0
1
20
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UEFA Champions League Table

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