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[1/2] Squad (vs Celta): Bravo, Ter Stegen, Alves, Bartra, Mascherano, Mathieu, Adriano, Alba, Busquets #fcblive

[2/2] Squad (vs Celta): Rakitic, Xavi, Sergi Roberto, Rafinha, Pedro, Munir, Suarez, Messi, Neymar #fcblive

Official: 18 players called up for today's game against Celta, Masip, Douglas, Montoya, Pique and Vermaelen not included #fcblive

Montoya couldn't even make for bench ,

We bought Douglas to replace Montoya not Dani because it hard to see Montoya staying with us after next transfer window
What happeNed to Messi's work rate? The old Messi ran for fun.
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For ffs !!!!!!!!! this is third post on same issue and to make it worse the other 2 posts are still on front page -_-
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Blasphemers.
Blasphemers everywhere lol.
The starting line up I'd like for tomorrow:
Bravo - Alves Bartra Mathieu Alba - Rakitic Mascherano Xavi - Suarez Messi Neymar

Didn't make the squad: pedro (garbage), Iniesta (injured), Vermaelen (injured), douglas (injured)
Didn't Vermaelen get the green light a few weeks ago? I don't understand how a player made it all the way to professional level being that injury prone. He must be better than I thought lol.

Great line up for tomorrow. Let's just hope Lucho is on the same page as you.
I read Vermaelen had a recovery setback. According to Metro,Caughtoffside, hitc and givemesport, Barca medical team begged Board not to sign Vermaelen.
I agree with that lineup but Rafinah in place of Xavi will be nice to see ? will surely do anything to see Bartra and Mathieu Duo .
Vermaeleen is still injured? I don't know how anyone thought that was a good idea. Today is November 1st, I can almost bet he will still be injured a month from now.

If he plays more than 10 times this season we will be lucky....sigh....
I saw the post and comment about Messi, and how his work rate has been lacking, and brings its something that even ive been trying to deny more than anyone. I have been a huge messi fan since he was a teen. But now that this is being brought more into the light, it is very true that messi has changed. And its very sad to see honestly. He is lazy now, and I hate questioning anybodies heart in the game, but dude I feel messis love for the game has been dying(from what i seen)

We all remember his incredible record breaking 2012 year where it seemed he was always looking to score, and win the game for us. Messi had god like numbers, and we knew he was carrying us at that time. After 2012, it seems like he has lost a step. It was only 2 years ago, but he is still 27. He should be like lightning out there, going for ball, going for the goal every game. I dont see it in him anymore. He doesnt have the heart like he did, and yes it is very hard to watch him walk around, jog, and knowing he has plenty of energy to go the 90. I mean there comes a point enough is enough. Of course we appreciate what Messi has done for us before, all the goals, but if you just decide to not go 100%, we dont want you playing. If he keeps this up, are we going to consider him the best player in the world at all, or even on our team? Neymar, and Suarez can change Messi I know. But i dont want messi to get infamy for just not giving enough. Come on Leo
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As a huge Messi fan I agree that his work rate has definitely went down. However I believe it's unfair to make assumptions about him. His health is something personal and you never know how his GHD effects his life now. I know it affected his stamina problems in his younger years, but from 20-25 he was fine. However in the past 2 years he has been throwing up so much during games.

I just hope he gets back to his best shape as we should have some of the top doctors in the world. To be fair though this season he has picked up from the past season in terms of pressing. I remember a few games ago he actually stole the ball from the last defender and scored. So lets pray he gets in top shape as soon as possible and the Neymar, Suarez, Messi, attack becomes the most dominate thing this world has seen.
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If thats the case, it could be iffy this year for him. I hate seeing this messi, and its personal, we know that, but if this is the case, why cant he let us know then? Rather the image of "he just isnt trying". I know he loves the game, hes shown it, but i just hope before the year is over he is back to form. We cant go far without, even with suarez here now
So far all season Messi has shown a great improvement over his work rate last season, and yet people still seem to think he doesn't give a s**t about doing his best anymore. He also picked up a yellow early in the clasico which led to his drop in pressing for rather obvious reasons. Have you guys questioning Messi even watched our games this season?
Continuing my Marca adventures , this is what Granada manager Caparrós did during his press conference ahead of their match against Madrid

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0W-za9Flxr0

Translation of his conference and reason ,

www.insidespanishfootball.com/133090/caparros-vents-his-fury-at-marca-ahead-of-match-against-real-madrid/
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Honestly, anyone can get pissed off after this typical everyday pro-madrid media stuff..


Neymar homage to Ronaldinho in Barca's latest team photo
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That's pretty cool; I wonder if he did that on purpose. Young Messi and Andrés are funny to see as well, while Xavi hasn't changed a bit.
The Brazilian Samba players are like the next Avatar, and I feel like Neymar is that. Despite being put under pressure from the age of 14, he has always lived up to the hype. Also he's one of few Brazilians these days who dances with the ball at his feet and has his moves work a majority of the time.
Real Madrid had their own Avatars too.


And then the Fire Nation attacked...
Ronaldinho is the fire nation? Dinho was the Avatar! He defeated the Galacticos in their stadium and got a standing ovation!
There's an article on bleacher report about Barca's pressing game or the lack of it in the clasico.

"According to stats from WhoScored.com, Messi made no tackles or interceptions in the Clasico, Neymar one tackle and no interceptions and Suarez one tackle and no interceptions (he went off after 68 minutes, with his replacement, Pedro, making two tackles and no interceptions).

Those are not the statistics of a hard-pressing team—and it’s significant that Pedro, an archetypal la Masia graduate—won possession back as often in a quarter of the game as all the other forwards combined over the whole game...

This is part of a trend. In 2009-10, Messi made an average of 0.9 tackles and 1.2 interceptions per game, while last season he was down to 0.5 tackles and 0.1 interceptions (WhoScored.com). Neymar made 0.8 tackles and 0.3 interceptions per game last season, according to WhoScored.com."

We have completely lost our pressing game. When we press we do it in a half hearted manner and the opponent has enough time to pass their way out of our defensive trap. Better teams work their way out and have enough time to launch a counter attack which leaves our defense exposed. It's not as much that our defense sucks, it's our fwd and midfield line that's not covering passing lanes. But we still play our high defensive line. So there isn't much that our slow cbs can do to cover quick counter attacks especially since our opponents synchronize counterattacks against us which have clearly been worked out precisely in training.

Neymar has never been a tackler or an interceptor. I don't think he will ever be one but he has to increase his defensive work rate. Messi definitely needs to improve his off the ball work. Suarez is a hard worker and I believe he will give his best since he has a lot to prove after his ban. The biggest reason why we have lost our edge to Madrid is because they look like they want to win badly. Their players have drive. Isco was tracking back. James was running frantically. Benz was helping out. Except for cr7 I think everyone on their team was just looking to tackle the sh it out of our team. We can't play our style and win without implementing our system completely.
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To be honest I think its messi who ruins it for everyone. He is lazy unless his got the ball at his feet. Its sad though because he use to score so many goals by stealing the ball and taking the defence by surprise. I mean how are the other forwards suppose tp keep pressi g when they know messi is just standing in the middle not pulling his weight. I its up to the coach to fix it up and if messi doesnt want to change, id go as far as benching him. No ones bigger then the team, pressing is a part of what makes us great
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Messi who ruins it for everyone? So you're telling me everybody else in the team presses like they are supposed to except Messi? Get outa here. Pressing is a team thing, everybody needs to do it. But unfortunately our team doesn't do that.
Yea but Messi is a leader.. everyone looks up to him on the team. To be honest I struggle to watch Messi play these days, his attitude is far from what it use to be. I know he had a injury prone season that effected this but its no excuse. Mate if you have played soccer and you had a team mate who thought he has a special privilege and doesn't have to run at all in defense it would badly bring down team morale. The only reason he gets away with it is because he is such a talent. Even in the World cup I couldn't help but get so angry watching him, im sure he would have scored more if he hassled the defenders on the ball! Exactly it is a team thing and he thinks his above the team and if you can't see that your too in love with him (understandable).

Sorry Sanchez but the stats are there to show his work rate is nothing in comparison to what they use to be, please show me someone else s stats that have dropped so heavily.. 1.2 intercepts on average to 0.1 now, that has a massive effect on the team going forward and suppressing the opponent.
Hypothetical situation: Messi is benched against against Celta (would never happen because he is treated as a god not a player and coach would probably lose his job), Suarez is fully fit. Suarez plays in the center with Neymar and Pedro on either side. I guarantee the team would press as a hole so much better, and they would probably create more chances and have way more possession as a result of winning the ball back earlier.
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Sometimes i go through this thought process with ronaldo. He sits on the left wing and does jack all most of the time. He cant be bothered to defend and usually teams try to exploit our left back.

However it is almost mind boggling how that gamble pays off in the number of counter attacks and goals we score from the team turning over the ball on ronaldo's wing.

Im not saying this is the same situation with messi, because its not. Different player different system. It is similar though.

Also a reason why these two players score more in one season than most strikers in a three, is because they pick and choose their moments. They are trying to minimize energy expended during the game while still maximizing goal output.

This allows them to remain mostly injury free, play almost every game, and score boatloads of goals

So for instance they will see an opportunity and focus extremely hard in that moment. This may happen only several times a game. However they are decisive in these moments and thats what sets them apart as goal scorers, at least for me.

However other side of the coin is that teams might play better with a harder work ethic. But hindsight is always 20/20.
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I part agree with barcamylove , but you also have to remember that it's been more then 2 season now that we have lost that aggressive pressing while defending , so now if someone comes and suddenly push players to do that again it will take little bit of time to have the same mentality and fitness level back .

I'm already happy that since arrival of Luis Enrique likes of messi & Neynar have tried to gave their contribution in defense , though not on ideal level but I see it improving as season proceed
I agree Malik Enqrique seems to be addressing the issue!
Messi and Neymar actually started out with amazing pressing game in the Classico. However Messi got a yellow card for pulling out of challenge which made no sense. Neymar also got a bs yellow card for retaliation.. After those two yellows both players refused to press in fear of getting red carded. The cards were very biased in the match tbh.
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Messi had 2 dangerous tackles back to back, don't know what you're talking about.
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Perhaps you'd know what I was talking about when I mention Carvajal's 5 dangerous tackles including a double footed tackle from the back that finally got him a yellow..
^ dont forget to add kross and modric , both of them could have ealisy seen two yellow each if they were playing for any other team
Xavi - 10 Milles Per Veure Una Bona Armadura - Esoesgallo


https://vimeo.com/110438866


Random fact - the Catalan band that is playing in this Xavi video is Pep Guardiola's favorite band.
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Xavi has really been a tremendous midfielder. Great vid.
Messi (27) demands Luis Enrique sacking after Barcelona manager opted to drop him for their Catalan Super Cup clash against rival Espanyol [MARCA]
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I didn't know you were a reporter from MARCA!
Congrats!
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2 weeks already mate , but I remember announcing that while a ago perhaps you were busy looking for a bait rather then reading that important announcement .

Anyways job is great , perhaps only organization which provide you with job description in one liner , mine is

" Write any bullshit about Messi '

Job tile is

' Creative Bullshit writer '

and i get additional bonus if i cram an article or so about how bad Barcelona is
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You could also work for Mundo Deportivo,but instead of:

" Write any bullshit about Messi "

you would have to do the same but just for Perez. Just like their newest story that Perez punished Suarez for not coming to Madrid by kicking him from the 23 man short list for Ballon D'or lol. Doesn't get much better than that.
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Thats poor from MD if they had my services then i should have wrote Something like this

" Suarez is not on the list , so dictator messi can win it "

Or if I was with Marca last year

" FIFA decided to do re-casting of Ballon dor votes after Portugal vs Sweden so messi can win it , but apparently FIFA's monthly bank transfer was delayed "
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Lol sorry guys. This thread is hilarious.
Is it bad if i think some of these could actually pass for marca headlines?
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I just had cramps in my belly after laughing so hard. Good one Malik :D
Barcelona line-up (official): Masip - Adriano Pique
Bartra Alba - SergiRoberto Samper Rafinha - Pedro Suarez Munir #fcblive

Bench Barcelona: Ter Stegen, Montoya, Rakitic, Xavi; Ie, Grimaldo, Halilovic, Adama, Sandro

Vs espanyol

Really disappointed about Montoya not getting his chance :/
Suarez starting, I am really excited to see him play.
what do you guys honestly think about sergi roberto? hes a good player but IMO he is not shown star potential.
Yay Halilovic :-)
That Suarez's assist tho! o.O
freakin brilliant.
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