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We've scored one goal in our last three games and lost them all. The way Athletic are going, it's not unlikely we'll fail to score or even lose again. They have only lost once in their past 9 games, and that was against the future La Liga champions. They've only conceded 5 goals in all those games too.

Good times.
I can see the dagger flying in right now... just do it already! x(
I have the answer to all our troubles...

MORE POSSESSION!!!
nononono Alfrodo. Obviously the key to success is MORE CROSSES
No no no the key to success is to sell Messi and buy Toni kroos so he can receive the cross after we have like 90% possession.
@barcastuff
"Barcelona will next week hold meetings to discuss the possible successor of Tata Martino, who has decided to leave this summer." [md]
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source please?
So, Tata himself decided to leave this summer?
I prefer this one:
"Barcelona will next week hold elections to replace the current corrupt incompetent board"
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While Tata has a warm place in my heart, I think he was either not good enough a manager for being unable to keep the players motivated and come up with innovative tactics to surprise teams a whole season long, or he was purposely sabotaged by the club. I'd really like to know if he was forced to play certain players.
md~mundodeportivo
It is a tweet, nothing official. MD also published the top 4 candidates to take Tata's place:
http://www.mundodeportivo.com/20140418/fc-barcelona/valverde-luis-enrique-frank-de-boer-y-paco-jemez-candidatos-a-entrenar-al-barca_54405920651.html
Mundo Deportivo is almost as bad as goal.com when it comes to reliability
Sharing this video....at least some players no matter what fights for their team :P haha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFBid_S6LyU
So...atletico if atletico ties and all comes down to the last game of the season...would we be gifting the league to Madrid if we beat them?
yes u would... even if u tie with them and we win all our matches, we win the league by a point... the question is... would barca players purposely lose at home so that madrid wouldnt win the league?
tbh I have mixed feelings about this. I NEVER want my team to lose yet I don't want to see our biggest rival win, speacially with our help. I dont know what im going to feel if everything comes down to the last game of the season.
^i don't think atleti need any help from this barca to win the match .they will do it all alone ..
No argument here 4ever but thats not what I mean. I always cheer barca on to win games/titles but Its going to be awkward cheering my team knowing that if we win we give the title to our biggest rivals.
Ahhh, more arrogance and ignorance!

Yes, Atleti DEFINITELY need you to throw the match in order for them to win, because you know, Barcelona have had their number the past few years.

Maybe Atleti should intentionally lose because you guys have been on a poor run and they feel sorry for you. They know the only way you could beat them is if they threw the match.
DaGaza,

If Atleti ties, they win with a point, no? They lead with 6 points with one more game played. If they lose, it's a tie and head to head decides, and Atleti still wins.
Here is a video that I think speaks volumes about the current Barca mentality:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdxoKy9GPpI

We applaud Xavi for his masterful ability to control the ball and hold off 4 different Madrid players. When we are up by a goal or two, I think this kind of possession is warranted and probably our best mode of defense.

However, when we are down a goal and playing against two banks of 4 defenders, why are we applauding a move than only corrals Xavi backward, further from the opposition's goal? Not only is he further away, he has more defenders in front of him by the end of the play than he did when he first received the ball. This kind of mentality needs to change. If we consistently allow the two banks of 4 to get between us and the goal, we're doing it wrong!
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Can you please say that again? I didn't understand..
Watch the video again. When he first receives the ball, there are 6 Madrid players between him and the goal. By the end of him retaining possession, there are 10 Madrid players between him and the goal. What space is he creating that is useful? Space in our defensive third is exactly what counter-attacking teams like Madrid want! Now if he could use his cleverness to maintain possession while going toward the opposing goal, we would be in business!!
Ummm, Madrid are planning a counter and Xavi is marked by someone a yard behind him (watch the vid again).
The objective in THAT moment is NOT to score a goal, but to hold possession and PREVENT ANY possible counter-attack.

Can't believe you are asking for that, considering BOTH Madrid goals came from the same exact plays resulting in dispossesions.
At the point Xavi turned Cesc was wide open and no pass. The point is that the Xavi we know is known for his cutting passes so why when it's essential to get a goal you spend that much time on the ball and pass wide? So that we can cross? If cesc received the ball he had both neymar and messi waiting so why kill the chance to score for an opportunity for them not to?
Madrid are PLANNING a counter? How exactly are they doing that if they DON'T have the BALL..? Xavi had the opportunity to pass it to Iniesta, who was facing the goal and had options, OR later to Cesc who was ready for the ball. Both of whom are in an advanced, offensive positions and a turnover would be less dangerous than if Xavi would have lost it going towards his own goal.

By your logic, Mt, we should hold onto the ball as much as possible so as to not ever risk a counter attack. Oh wait, that is exactly what we did the last 3 matches and look where it got us...
Not to forget the countless amounts of time we lost the ball by crossing all could have easily been a counter. This whole passing it wide and spreading the play only works with Alexis and pedro playing.
@Alfrodo Maybe "planning" isn't the best choice of words. A better description would be "once the ball was cleared (before Busquets headed to Xavi) notice that all the Madrid players on the screen had immediately started running on the offensive".

"we should hold onto the ball as much as possible so as to not ever risk a counter attack"
Actually, that's your logic applied to what I said, not my logic. :)
Possession is pontless if you don't do anything with it. Just like stepovers, trick dribbles, nutmegs, sombreros, crosses, etc. that result in nothing.

@Messiesta Listen, both of you are doing/saying essentially the same thing:
1. Questioning Xavi's decision-making.
In a Cup final.
Against Madrid.
With Modric on his hip.
Where Madrid are essentially PLAYING to counter.
2. Suggesting Xavi make a high-risk pass, even in light of the fact that Madrid countered and scored on less risky attempts in the match.
3. You did note that Xavi did a quick look behind him as the pass from Busquets was coming to him?
4. Fabregas was open? It looked like his momentum was Brazilianesque and actually got in the way of Xavi's potential run, and Xavi possibly turned away because of that. Plus Alonso was closing down, and Ramos was a yard or two behind Cesc. Hard to give an interpretation to all this, and hard to criticize anyone for not making a risky pass.
5. How is passing to Iniesta a more advantageous position? Slight, if any.
6. "if Xavi would have lost it going towards his own goal".
No idea how you can use that as part of your argument when I'm using the argument that it's a safer play to take it back.
And if you really disapprove of attacking forwards in your squad passing the ball back then I'm pretty sure you've got a few others to criticize before you even get to Xavi.
7. Your modus ponens skills are horrible. Just because I think being conservative is the right approach here, I'm in no way defending an aimless and hopeless crossing philosophy.
Fact is this same tactic has failed us on all occasions against A Madrid and now in a cup final against Real Madrid. When your passing is as good as Xavis the risk factor isn't as great.

This whole playing it safe not wanting them to counter while we send in useless crosses isnt working. Take the risk make that pass, playing it safe got no one anywhere and it hasn't gotten us anywhere either. If we are indeed so scared of madrid countering we should just keep the ball in our own half.
Ironically, this was one of the recommended vids in the sidebar of the one you linked to:
http://youtu.be/YKpguR405PI

The 1st 2 minutes and 30 seconds should easily refute any of the desperate points you try to raise.
MT lets be honest here, had we won the game no one would complain. The simple reason being thay we have lost is the only reason issues like this arises and people discuss. To Xavi at that point was his right choice but to us the fans because we wanted the win in our minds he should have taken a risk. But yeah debatable
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@Messiesta Finally we almost agree. That's my main point: perspective.

You could chop the match into a thousand 12 second clips and say "why didn't Messi pass to Iniesta here? Iniesta was open and then he could have passed it Cesc who was also open and then he would have passed it to Messi who would have dribbled past 12 Madrid pylons and chipped Casillas with a nutmeg".

Desperately pointless.
Losing by ONE goal to Atleti in the CL does not entail the squad is poor or that they don't care.
Losing by ONE goal to Madrid in the CdR final also does not entail the squad is poor or that they don't care.

Something about forests and trees...
If anybody actually believes Bartra going harder for the tactical foul would have been a wiser choice, check this out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mNjGlEdVI8

Ouch :P
Oh please. If Bartra wanted to, he could have simply grabbed Bale and pulled him down Xabio Alonso style:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-k8NNeb3Kk#t=248

Personally, I think he should have tactically fouled him, it's not like he already had a yellow card.
+3
R. Madrid is best in tactical fouls and whining.. So, no need to tell us.
Well you missed my point there, players like bale can be immune to tactical fouls(like in the iceland goal i showed). especially when the defender is weaker physically

And The physiques of Bartra and Bale are well.. ridiculously uncomparable frankly.
How are they 'ridiculously incomparable'? Bartra is fast and strong too. You think Bale is superman? If Bartra pulls him down instead of trying to politely shove him to stop him, not even Bale can run on. But, the fact we're discussing committing a foul like that makes me a bit sick to be honest. I hate 'professional fouls'. They are an abuse of the rules, because by the book those fouls, executed correctly, are only a yellow when they almost always stop a great chance.

For those fouls I'd like an orange card to be invented: a card that automatically becomes a red if you commit one more foul.
+4
"players like bale can be immune to tactical fouls?"
bahahahahaha! Is this kid for real?

We are talking about this same Bale right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI_TqY5Tj5o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kVbCihUiKo

If a gnat can knock him over...
@Jeroen Trust me, every football spectator hates to see violence on the field as much as you do.. even the most biasdly blatant ones. i do like your orange card concept though, 2 clever votes for that

@Alfrodo both clips you provided involved no tactical fouls whatsoever. Both were horribly executed dives, the dude just lacks talent when it comes to cheating. Unlike Neymar and Ronaldo
In the first clip, Bale stumbles on the ball and falls quite easily. I suppose in your terms we could say that "the physiques of [the ball] and Bale are well.. ridiculously uncomparable frankly."
Ok, so I'm gonna attempt to analyze that confusing [yet humorous] logic you seem to have.

Considering Strengh: Bartra>The Ball>Bale

Please tell me how accurate my proclamation was?

When two human bodies sprinting towards the same destination stumble in a certain collision, the stronger one is the least likely to be affected. That's the literal form of explaining the unsuccessful tactical fouls attempted on Bale in his goals against both Barca and Iceland
"In January, I pictured one such long-term scenario, in which Martino’s verticalidad would help usher in a fresh, younger Barça, with a run-and-gun midfield, some of the best attackers on the planet, and a more counter attacking style. "

"If it continues to behave like a spoiled child, demanding success without being willing to pay the price of transition, then no board or manager on earth will be able to pick a team out from the rubble."

A beautiful piece very well written for anyone who has time. Pretty much based on Tata and how a team that was winning 20 games in a row is now losing. A team that was based on substitutions and rotations that clearly was working so well to a team thats just put on the field to make someone happy? But who, the board? the players? The fans?

Against Rayo we had the worst possession but we won 4-0 yet the media hounded Tata about not winning but why we had no possession? If you are a fan who is currently blaming Tata and thinking why we are facing such a slump this will be a great read. Also, anyone see a remarkable resemble to Rouras team last year and the motivation?

So maybe it's not Tata, maybe the board want Cesc to play to Xavi and Iniesta and pairing Messi with Neymar. So what choices is Tata left with when you cant even win a game by a big margin and still get crap for having no possession?

http://www.totalbarca.com/2014/opinion-pieces/one-step-forward-two-steps-back-barcelonas-failed-transition/
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Good read, and I've had similar thoughts recently too. The fact we're complaining about the pitches when they're clearly not horrible (apparently Xavi did after the Atlético loss, though the media constantly fabricates lies about him) or refuse to admit we were outplayed is really annoying. Just like the writer says: some of our players and fans are starting to whine like spoilt children who refuse to accept change is needed.

Right before the Atlético game, I said the key to winning is constant evolution. We are not even stagnating, we are plummeting. The drive is gone, the speed in the game is gone too. We'd get thrashed 5-0 against the 2009-2011 Barça now. I don't know how much Tata is responsible for this either, because just like in the article, I kind of fear he's forced to play Neymar, Alves, Messi and Cesc at all times, because they're big names. To me it's clear we should have benched them all several games ago or subbed them off as a clear pointing finger that they are playing far below their own standards.

Lately I haven't been very disappointed with our crucial losses and I wondered why. I know now: it's because I am no longer proud of this team. Even the whole club is being dragged through the mud by the board. As a fan, I want changes. Big changes.
Loved the article ,but i disagree about many things .when i came to know the appointment of tata here ,was really thought and hope for the success of him though was little skeptical because his experience in league is only in argentine league which is running vastly different from European league .itis consisting two legs ,in which one is ending in December n second one starting from February .that league only need short term tactics and he was highly successful with his intense pressing approach .

As expected ,we started very comfortable and highly dominated in every aspect of the game until first half of the season .i was really thought ,he is revolutionize tiki taka with his counter attacking experiment .then its started ,down fall .tired aged players ,trying endless crosses with player like dani alves and most importantly ,reluctant to change same line up in big matches which makes we are very predictable etc .papers like marca reported that he has lost his dressing room already n eventhough players like him very much ,they still thinks he is not good enough to succeed here .anyway a project once we highly hoped to succeed is went to its downfall and ruined .

Now as jeroene said ,i also need big changes but with keeping our usual self .i don't think predictable tiki taka is the reason for our downfall ,i believe not implementing perfect tiki taka n less committed players is thethe reason for that .first step should be throwing out bad apples from the team .
What a brilliant article! Thank you for sharing

"A trophyless season is not a tragedy. The utter lack of progress in any department that Barcelona has made since the 7-0 defeat to Bayern Munich is."

And the few glimpses of progress we do make, the "entorno" gets riled up that we had less possession than the other team. I really feel for Tata. I think he had us on the right track to evolve but was met with criticism and hate. I bet he can't wait to get out of the political, petulant entorno that surrounds him. I wonder if he will stay another season with the hope that big changes happen and he is given back the freedom he deserves. If he decides to leave, I will not hold any grudge against him.

Oh how I would love to overhear what is going on in the dressing room! Is there contention between players? Is there an identity crisis? Lack of motivation? Jealousy, rivalry? Too bad most of this won't be revealed for months or years...

There are rumors that Sanchez was pissed that he didn't play more in the CDR final. Evidence? He did not accept his medal during the ceremony:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwvOPayUFic

There are rumors he will leave to Juve in the summer. With all the hate he has endured, I can't say I really blame him. His boyhood dream of playing for Barca has been nothing short of a nightmare. But I love the guy and hope he fights through it. I think contention and proper expression of dissatisfaction with the way things are going are good signs actually. Things are not peachy and we should stop pretending they are.
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Alexis hasn't started any of the last 5 games that we have lost. Now I know that Tata prefers Cesc on the field but why leave out someone who is having his best season so far? He's not known to be a trouble maker either. It will be a shame for him to leave in this manner.

Although Tata compromised possession it was working I mean just look at the goal difference. Alexis, pedro and tello were all getting hattricks, players were so unselfish. I honestly feel as if Tata has given up slowly because hes an outsider and he can't make the team how he wants because thats not the "barca way".
Someone was asking about Google Glasses the other day.
Looks like Atletico's assistant coach is using them

http://en.clubatleticodemadrid.com/noticias/german-burgos-received-the-fixtures-statistics-live-on-his-google-glass

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Pinto, sucks maan. He is not even a good back up. I would have saved those two goals.
+2
As valdez mention in one of his interviews, a goal keeper can save 5 shots and conceed one and everyone goes nuts. A striker can miss 5 and score one and everyone praise him.. what am trying to say is yes pinto sucks at times but still he manages to protect the goal when it needs to b.. i sort of agreeing with, barcelona second keep should be a better quality than pinto
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Lets give credit to Bale for his wonderful effort on that second goal. First goal was Dani Alves's fault and then whole defence. We need motivation, one full back to replace Alves(taller, faster) and one tall worldclass center back. If we have motivation and feeling of security on defence, our attackers can do wonders. But they need to have motivation at first place to even try anything.
Pinto is one of the best backups in the world. It's not an easy job. He's always played well.
Not sure what you make out of this, but I see sportsmanship. Something Barca-Real fans need to learn. No matter how big the rivalry be, love for the beautiful game should be even bigger

http://www.marca.com/2014/04/17/futbol/copa_rey/madrid-barcelona/1397690884.html
+1
wait why is messi touching his ....
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I think both players have mutual respect, I mean, lets face it, neither player would be as good as they are without the other. There probably wouldn't be any need for either of them to step up their game the way they did. Maybe Bale and Neymar will be the next such generation, pushing the other to ridiculous heights.
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