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http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/club/

So according to the new UEFA club ranking winning the TREBBLE doesnt constitute as important at all in considering the best club of the world at the moment... =_=

Than or theyre more interested in history..in which case Liverpool should be way higher

"The club coefficient rankings are based on the results of clubs competing in the FIVE PREVIOUS SEASONS of the UEFA Champions League"

What gave you the impression it was meant to indicate who is the best right now?

I think anyone sensible would agree that Barca were the best last season and deserved winners of the CL.
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5 previous seasons?

2014/15:Barcelona
2013/14:Real Madrid
2012/13:Bayern
2011/12:Chelsea
2010/11:Barcelona

Barcelona has won the UCL twice in the past 5 seasons. So how is that not good enough to put them #1? cause they missed the semis once? Well rankings dont tell the full story i guess, but it doesnt feel right .-.
Undead, it looks like it doesn't count 10-11.
Just see the breakdown instead of asking how maybe? :)
Btw for the purposes of these coefficients, it doesn't matter if you win the final or not, it only matters if you reached the final.
Madrid, I think has had more wins in group stages over the past 5 years. Up until atleti eliminated us we were a permanent fixture in the semis for the previous 6 years. Don't worry I'm sure uefa has an extensive spreadsheet working it out for them.

Besides what matters more to you? A table which calculates who's the best mathematically or a closet full of trophies?
ALL HAIL LORD BENDTNER!
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https://twitter.com/LordBendtner/status/627596271138811904/photo/1

Even Pep cant stop the lord!
+1
Bayern start their season with a loss too Wolfsburg.
Doesnt count cause lord was playing
Lord cursed Bayern
Stuttgart toying with man city. 4-0 in 35 mins. Damn
But but English teams have best defense -_-
city's defense was miserable last year, but joe hart did well. my interpretation of the england-hazard jibe is that english teams in the bottom are more defensive than la liga teams who try and play football even if they lack the quality to compete. in the epl hazard gets double and triple marked. in spain i don't think teams do that, and if they do, it would be for messi and ronaldo types who score more goals.
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City's defense was bad but here's the thing, they conceded 38 goals in the league. United conceded 37 I think. Arsenal conceded 36. Southampton was the only team outside the top 4 which was under 35 at 33. Chelsea conceded 32 goals in spite of being super defensive in many Games. I'd think if Chelsea weren't as cautious they would easily have conceded 4-5 more goals. It seems like it's the norm these days in England.
Hazard is Chelsea's main player. He gets attention just like messi and cr7 get. So I don't see what the difference is.

La liga"s bottom teams don't have the players that bottom teams in epl can afford. So in spite of having better players and supposedly better English defense, English teams concede similar amount of goals in the league. There are many other factors that go in to this and it should never be a numbers comparison but if you see past records you'll see the defense they speak of isn't really all that.
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ah, now i understand, but i dont think they're talking about hazard replacing ronaldo or messi if he were to join barca or madrid. i think they're saying if hazard were to join up with these two teams his stats would improve, which may or may not be the case. i dont think he'd get the same attention in these two teams as he does in chelsea because he wouldnt be the clear threat as opposed to ronaldo or messi or suarez etc

and clearly, stylistically, there's a different approach to football in spain vs england. you guys harp on it all the time, so i don't know what the big deal is in them saying the epl holds defending in higher regard. teams at the bottom and middle are drilled to stay compact and defend, attack via the counterattack, when away at big teams but i think in spain the teams generally have a more attacking approach which often affords more space to the best players.
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"why dont more of you guys on footytube join our whatsapp group? im looking at you as well tharius and danny.... plus anyone from any fanbase is invited...

We actually spend hours discussing the same topics we do here.. but its even better since replies are instant..."

too lazy to make my own post. Post your numbers on my wall and I'll add you to the group! It's actually really fun
Is there a way to do it without a phonr number
I think you can create a username too with a fake #
St1or has to be the laziest guy i've seen in my life lmao
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Ok done
Felling super ecstatic !!!

Missed both CDR & CL final because of exams , TBH didn't felt i did enough to pass in both of them but result came this morning and surprisingly i passed in both .

Digital party from me !!!!
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congrats
Great! What exams were they ?
thanks guys
@blackstyle88 , ACCA , now i need to pass one more paper to be. a certified chartered accountant
Congrats,I always wanna study acca,but didn't get time for that..
^ thanks buddy , brotip , if you ever have a chance to do ACCA then better go for ICAEW or CA of your country , they're bit difficult then ACCA but hold more repute in market , i will probably go for ICAEW once i'm done with ACCA .
indian CA are best in the market,but as i started working since was at 20,its quite difficult to go back and focus on studies,especially tough courses like CA.By the way,am SAP professional,so i would like to either further pursue career on that path or start a business,aint decided yet.
Just.. lol
https://twitter.com/SportsBreakfast/status/626647596052910080/photo/1

"He has a distinctive, rodent-esque face"
ouch
They found him

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLKO0YyUEAAGGrf.jpg

Meanwhile PSG announce the signing of a mystery player goes by the name of Angelo De Mario

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLK_O1lWsAADDX3.jpg
Can't believe people get paid for writing s**t like this .

http://www.squawka.com/news/what-does-eden-hazard-have-to-do-close-the-gap-on-messi-and-ronaldo/427759

" But considering the standard of La Liga defending is lower than Premier League defending, Hazard’s goal tally would be largely increased if he too were playing in Spain "

" lethargic Althelic Bilbao "

Hazard is amazing player but boasting he is getting for playing in EPL is just ridiculous

And then you have s**t like this

https://twitter.com/Neymarred/status/626907146320527360

Busquets at number 6 ? half of them are not even DM , I guess espn insiders spend lots of time playing Fifa .
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Lol at the ESPN article, half of them are like B2B midfielders. Where's Mascherano as well? At Liverpool he was one of the best defensive midfielders for us, I'm sure he has been great for Barca as well.
If Hazard was playing for RM or Barca his stats will be better because he will get way better service from the teams than Chelsea
^ it's a very tricky assumption to make , at barca and real hazard would not be the first choice for penalties and will have to play second fiddle to other players .

Not all players that play at barca get benefit from being surrounded with amazing players , eg Sanchez .
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^true, his goal scoring is not sensational but he will rack up alot of assists if he was to play for any of the 2 teams
^That's debatable as well. At barca, the entire game flows through messi. Hazard playing the neymar role won't have any better stats(assists) than neymar had last season.
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^ True , Hazard wont dictate the game if he was at Barca
Everyone always blames me for being a Belgium fanboy. And this Belgium fanboy will guarantee you that Hazard won't score more at Barça at all. He most likely would assist a ton more, though.

Neymar always looks to score first before thinking about passing (unless it's to his idol Messi). Hazard is the opposite.
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lol @ that espn list of defensive mids.

Just shows we are really lacking true DM's these days.
kind of sad. also sad that casemiro has returned and hasnt looked as good as he was previously.

sad sad sad sad
"But considering the standard of La Liga defending is lower than Premier League defending"

and yet no one in the premiere league couldn't make it past the last 16....

hazard is one hell of a talent but is he even better than the likes of Bale or Neymar right now? If you look at bale's first season in Madrid and Neymar's last season in FCB.. its hard to say that hazard's last season (which was his best) was better...
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^ funny thing is EPL defenders are the least technically capable defenders out of all top leagues , the only thing they focus in a defender is his speed & strength ,

Guys like terry and vidic both were / are technically good & dont posses the pace like other defenders in EPL but still shat on any EPL attack .

On top of that most EPL managers don't know how to organize their defenses properly , which result in indiscipline , heave physical and kamikaze type of defenders .
Whenever I hear this "epl has better defense" crap I always ask this question:

EPL has been the highest scoring league amongst the top European leagues for over a decade. So what is the deal? Does epl possess the best defense or the best attack? If epl has the toughest defense I'm not sure why everybody is scoring so many goals?

Diego Costa scored 20 in 26 starts for Chelsea. He scored 27 in 36 for atleti the previous year. Seems like life got slightly easier for him

Negredo scored some 20 goals for city by winter break until he had his shoulder injury after which his form dipped dramatically. Negredo had no issue adjusting to the tighter defences in England.

Silva improved his stats after moving to city. Same with aguero. Michu did better in England than he did in Spain. Yaya did better in England than with frickin barca in an easier league. There are players who struggle but usually players from Spain just ease themselves into English football. I'm not sure where this myth of difficult league comes from?
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But.. but.. EPL has more hooligans!
@Franky4fingers Soldado flopped in PL, he was scoring for fun for Valencia, that point is irrelevance, but the PL defense is not good as people say it is , Other than Terry , Kosc , Kompany none of the CBS will make it in La Liga teams
sorry man but koscielny wouldn't make it in barca, madrid nor atleti... and with mustafi and otamendi playing the way they are playing I dont see koscielny making valencia's squad neither...

He did have a good season though... but it would be very very hard to replace any of the pairing center backs of these 4 squads...
Gary Cahill for me is a very underrated CB in the epl tho... sometimes i even think kompany is being overrated.. given how poor he has been on various occasions in the Champions League matches.
Idno guys barca signed vermalen and matthieu.

Kos is honestly one of the most underrated CBs in the world
i agree DaGaza , Cahill is underrated , mostly because he was not over hyped when we moved from Bolton and also because he spend most of his playing time in pair with terry ,

As for koscielny i would have agreed with you if you had posted this couple of season back , in last two season koscielny have matured quite a lot and now is very good CB , i think he have quality to make it to either of Barca or madrid .
Drogbalampard: That's why I said, "There are players who struggle." Players from Spain usually do alright or better in England. If you follow the logic of some premier league fans, English players should just run riot in Spain but that doesn't happen. Bale used to play for an above average team in England and came to Spain to play for the highest scoring side for the past 10 years. His goals to games started ratio is almost the same over fewer games played in Spain. That means if he had played same number of games his record in Spain would have been worse than England even though the defenses he faces are arguably weaker while his teammates are much much better than spurs.

The thing is the premier league needs to promote this idea that's its the toughest league in the world in order to keep selling and making money. If you repeat something several times over and over again it will eventually become the truth. It doesn't matter if the record says something else.
Pedrito youve been so good to us over the years. So loyal I truly admire and appreciate everything you have done for us. I m conflicted in you leaving beause I know you want to playmore but the availability of our current squad is limited in you position. Nevertheless I hope the best from you and as a Barca fan I will always consider you a legend of Barca.

PS. heres a couple of fans who literally cry to him not to go:

http://www.thesportbible.com/articles/barcelona-fan-bursts-into-tears-after-pedro-fails-to-deny-he-s-off-to-manchester-united
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even though he is a barca player, its good when they show the character pedro has shown.. several times he has had to bench for new arrivals but till today he hasn't complained.. and he is a youth product, world cup winner, euro winner, 2x treble winner.
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2533870-marc-bartra-damages-his-barcelona-chances-with-poor-showing-against-chelsea

Love the kid since Barca B but I have to be fair and say he has been sub par this pre season. He needs to make a statement now that there is a lot of competition for the CB position. If not then he should go to another team where he would be more appreciated.
+2
I wonder if he is even committed to the team anymore. After his good performances weren't rewarded, he might be going down the same path as Montoya :(
at this point i would be happier for him to see him go..
I agree completely. Bartra has been really underwhelming. He has been decent in the air but on the ground he let's players get by too easily. He has a lot to prove still


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