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One thing which i am absolutely loving right now is burn which we're getting from some EPL fans for signing turan , its understandable tho , after all turan rejected chance to move to EPL clubs & be a starter , instead he opted to sit out for half a season and settle for less minutes .

Also i find it quite ironic that they're gassing on about ban , when most of them don't even know why we got the banned in first place & that their clubs would have done same if they were in similar situation .

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It doesn't even matter what the ban was for. Every punishment is accompanied by a due process unless one believes in kangaroo courts. Innocent until proven guilty except in barca's case it should be the other way around for some of these nutjobs.

We have paid €5 to 10m extra for each of our purchases in the last year because of the ban. If you put together all the money we've paid for our purchases we've grossly overpaid by around 30m euros. In addition to that we've had to offer more salaries. The deals we're making now are of the pay-now-use-later kind. If you put together the losses in salaries and interest, you're getting close to €50m lost because of the ban. How much did city pay in fines for openly flouting ffp rules? Barca's debt is currently around €450-500m. That's 10% that we've paid in "fines" for not filing out proper paperwork.

Now English clubs are happily picking up the same kids barca got punished for. You can feel the pain amongst some of these fans after our second treble. The ban was supposed to relegate barca to europa league. Ha
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Haha loving the hate and jealousy. Our cycle was supposed to be over when pep left. But we started a new one after just a 2 year gap. Some of the PL fans can't digest that. Simple as that
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@hari let's not generalize and be so salty to all "pl fans" just because few people didn't look at it as the others here, it's their opinion more than hate or jealousy i would think..
Arse204: fair enough. Edited my comment
I think every fan base has such kind of fans,I know some ronaldo fans personally prayed for Argentina loss just on the basis of jealousy tho generalizing isn't fair enough..
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As if any other club wouldn't do the exact same thing given the situation..
Lucho has asked for Turan and I can see the thinking behind it. Turan brings defensive intensity that lucho appreciates. He's also good at dribbling and passing (more kp and cc last season than rakitic) which allows lucho to push him or rakitic fwd when needed. Turan has played wide as well which could give him the ability to replace Iniesta during a game. Simeone designed a smash and grab type team which played quick counters that turan was a big part of. That might give barca that added dimension. Besides what we have learned from pep is that a team that doesn't evolve will eventually rot.

But after all said and done I'm just not sure he's barca material. Maybe the man who just masterminded a treble knows better than all of us arm chair pundits.
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I hope I am wrong, but I do not like this transfer AT ALL! Not only that it is conducted by some temporary election board after a non-elected president... but I just don't think Turan is the right player for us at the moment.

The only position where he can slot in is for Iniesta, and I don't think he has the quick thinking/feet for it. Why are we splashing cash like crazy when we don't really need him at all!? It's also the curse of success - so much impatience that the coach can't afford to use even 1 youngster in the line-up? Crazy. I would not really want to see Laporta back, but because of this (cherry on top of all the bs), if I could vote, I would not support Bartomeu, I don't see why they think a "marquee signing" improves election prospects.

Are we overpaying? yes
Is he Barca-quality player? arguable
Desperately needed? no
Stalling progress of Rafinha, etc? yes
resale value? not really
Is he asked for by the coach? there is the whole freakin summer ahead...

smh
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^ Have you watched Turan for Atletico? His very important on counter-attacks when Atletico are pushing forward. His got great skill, vision and for an attacking players, a really good defensive work-rate. His not an outside striker and neither is her really a CM but I think he will settle well into a CM position. Turan can be modeled into CM and his not far from it, in fact with Raka and Turan in MF and Busquests in DM or Masch, you guys can rest Iniesta considering his getting older or if injuries come along. Sure when it comes to the Barca style and vision Iniessta is god but Turan will surprise you for sure, he steps up when he needs to and his defensive contribution exceeds Ineista's. Sure the price is high but for a player who can play defensive and offensive well, I think his a great signing.
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Arda doesn't have quick feet or quick thinking? Now I know you haven't really watched him. His dribbling is one of his best attributes. Turan will prove to be a solid signing and can be molded into a solid CM like Moe mentioned or play in the wings when one of the front three is injured. Enrique knows what he's doing
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^ Don't think I said he was quick.
Iscodisco, couldn't agree more.
I think he's a very good player. I just don't see why we are paying so much for him? Apart from getting a player that we might not really need overpaying for a player makes our opponent stronger giving them the funds to buy someone younger who will perform for several more years.
Yes, I have watched Turan. He is a good player. And we do score more often from counters these days. But we are NOT a counter-attacking team. What I meant is that I don't know how he would successfully combine with Neymar, Messi & co especially in tight spaces.

As I said, I don't think he fits our team, unless Lucho really knows what he is doing. To be honest, I have not been very impressed with his tactical abilities as a coach either (in spite of the treble, LOL).
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^ Turan is not only a counter-attacking player. He's an intelligent player, and has been the partner-in-chief to Koke's midfield trickery. In short he knows very well how to make the right runs, pick the right passes, etc.
Tanmay: Turan plays a key role in Atleti's counter attacks. Any counter attack needs a pivot to release the ball long or wide. Madrid under Mou used Ozil for that in the middle of the field. Now they have way too many options. For Atleti it is usually Turan or Koke. Turan also makes wide runs even though he isn't quick like usual wingers.
I should have said he is not only a counterattacking player, contrary to what Footyman was implying. Edited to reflect that.
Arda to get #6?
He'll get #7, when Pedro leaves, he's likely to this summer. He's linked to Arsenal, but he should go to Liverpool lol
I thought Pedro just signed a new contract
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He did. I'm waiting for someone to explain this concept of him transferring afterall.
im jelly, you guys still signing these top players even during a ban. i don't blame the player or the club, but it's frustrating for sure as a fan of another club chasing top players. anyways, congrats.
Pedro leaving will make lot more scenes now , turan started as winger and preety can provide cover for MSN
No he should not leave! Turan can be a good cover for rakitic and rafinah can cover iniesta. Pedro is really amazing selfless player. As a sub he gave assists. Didn't become greedy and try to score from diffcult angles. Even in the CL final 93rd minute he did not go for glory and passed the ball to neymar who was in better position. Neymar should learn that from him.
lmao pedro signed a new contract? smh I guess he likes the bench.
honestly with all due respect to Arda Turan but Barca def wont improve by adding Turan to their squad .. the least needed transfer imo
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He's a replacement for Xavi. Thats all.
And a great replacement too. Rafinha and Sergi are just not ready yet if Iniesta or Rakitic got injured.
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I think Turan will surprise all naysayers. He's physically imposing, skilled on the ball, intelligent with vision and passing, finishes well, defends like a boss, gives his all to the team and to top it all he's a leader.

He's our Yaya Toure replacement, and he's going to shine at Barca, mark my words.
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I do think that Rafinha is ready tho. Pity the board didn't have more faith in him.
Rafinha and Sergi will never be ready anyways if they remain so far down the pecking order. Players aren't gonna suddenly be ready, they need to be trusted to get better...they might as well leave at this point. Bartra probably won't get any playtime either so he might as well leave too for his own good.
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Tanmay , I agree on rafinah bit and do you realize there are very little turan naysayers , it's about the details of deal that is bothering majority .
I don't think rafinha is ready. He's had a couple of good games against smaller sides. If I was the coach I'd be shitting my pants if I was forced to put rafinha in vs madrid or bayern. Rafinha will be ready after next season. Samper needs to get more time with the first team or be sent on loan. Roberto should leave on loan because he has hardly shown any promise.

Let's not pretend that la masia prospects will shine if given a chance. Sergi Roberto has been average and rafinha hasn't shown he's top quality yet.
We should give rafinah more playing time. They can not improve by playing 15 mins. Our squad have sooo much quality that it can cover some mistakes made by younger players. If the manager doesnt show confidence in them than who will?
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Rafinha is 22. At age 22, Iniesta showed a lot more promise than Rafinha. As a midfielder in a side as strong as Barca, Rafinha still doesn't have the confidence, strength, awareness and passing skills to become a first team player. He has potential and it is up to the manager to shape him up into the midfielder he can be. At the moment he is not ready. I am definitely for giving him and Bartra more chances to play. We have so much depth in the midfield and defense at the moment, I feel like we are Real Madrid. Barca has always had a slimmer squad especially since Pep took over. Now we have options everywhere.
Now before someone tells me that turan is a great player , yes he is especially he performs really well during big matches , but his transfer don't make any scene planning wise , he cant out place either iniesta or rackitic on permanent basic and he will be 29 once he will be eligible to playe for us .

We already had rafinah to cover for Xavi and iniesta still had good season or two in him .

Also I'm more furious because bartomeu is again using club finances for his own gain , after meeting between management committee few days back it was clear that they will let new board decide to make final call on turan deal but now after that rat face influence they signed him , given socio more reson to vote for him .

Management committee is there to oversee elections not decide on transfers , I hope someone sue their arses for this shitty business , I would have much rather had pogba for 80M then turan , he would have atleast made more scenes & just now wait for likes of Chelsea to get player like koke for similar amount we're paying for turan .

So pissed right now .
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How much was he?

Btw, "Until 20 July, Barcelona's new board will have an option to sell Arda Turan back to Atletico for a transfer fee of 30.6M."

If we paid anything more than 30.6m for him, our board is f*****g pathetic.

edit* so looks like we paid about 34m€ for him.. Keep in mind we sold one of the world's best midfielders for around that price.
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All these remind me of Suarez transfer,lol.back then,everyone was sending their abuses towards our poor,which turned out to be one of the best decision ever and everyone here kissing Suarez ass now.And also lucho asked to board to get turan at any cost,he would never be a cheap since Chelsea or United on to him,last year our board bought rakitic,ter stegen,bravo,Mathieu,bring back rafinha,every decision turns out to be good decision.most importantly they trust lucho even when everyone loses faith,you guys are just taking any chances to thrash our current board image..

Edit. Chelsea n utd offered him as much as us as per the reports from Spain,so I don't understand this blind hate,especially he is coming here just only because of lucho.
Malik what are you talking about? I love Rafinha but he's nowhere near ready if something were to happen to Iniesta or Rakitic. Don't you remember last season when Iniesta got injured and was out of form for a while, who covered our ass? Xavi did. Now that he's gone we need someone experienced to cover the middle. Rafinha can't be trusted in big games.

Edit: and as far as I know, both Vidal and Turan were Luchos choice so no matter who the board is, he wanted those 2 players.
I'm with Malik on this one. We need to trust our youngsters like rafinha. He may not be ready, but then how can he be if we don't play him enough? Its a shame barto is using this signing solely for gaining votes.

Good player. But useless signing
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I was one of the skeptics of signing Suarez as well. For 80m, he wasn't worth it for me but look at what a singing he turned out to be in the end. Fully worth every penny we paid for him.

This is another similar situation and I hope I'm proven wrong once again. A midfield trio of Turan Busq Rakitic with Iniesta, Rafinha and co rotating will be fantastic and it willmake our midfield even more solid.. It will give Rakitic the freedom to roam up more, sort of like Iniesta does now.. which will make our attack even more deadly than it is now.

But these are short term solutions imo... I'd much rather spend 60 on Koke than 35 on Turan. Just my 2 cents
@4ever , did you really compared Suarez to turan deal ? we sold Sanchez and had a available slot to get Suarez , people back then question him because of his on field issues and because we already had failed experiment of playing two no 9 ,

Turan is in footballing term a luxury backup as of now and even when iniesta is done he will be also very close to metting his end , my problem is not signing it's planning .

@SA , perhaps , re watch the 2nd half of season again , rafinah did really well once he got settle, its not about him alone , we have other mid's like Denis Suarez ,I can see thiago happening all over again with our youngsters .

Again as I said as a player I really like him , as a planning not so much .

@st1or , exactly my thoughts .
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Malik What rafinha are you talking about?.. Sure he showed promise but can you really tell me he's ready to face a world class team?
got turan a good player and all but dont really think we need this type of player. we got our starting mid which are busquets, iniesta and rakitic, and subs in rafinha and sergio roberto. who would he replace cause am sure he would want to start



Iniesta
And rakitic will assume iniesta's role of being the out and out attacking mid.
Well, I dont know how i feel about Arda Turan joining us. I mean tbh, I can see him giving us more of a fighting attitude, but just not sure about him. Now last summer we said the same about Mathieu joining us, but he actually was pretty solid signing, even coming up big in el claisco, and a GW vs Celta. If Turan is the guy that can keep the engine running in some way, it will be a good signing for us
+1
arda turan to Barcelona is official
+1
Am so happy if that true,he would fit perfectly well with lucho's tactics.
41m fee, which mean Pedro is leaving.
What a shity business , I just f*****g wanna punch our management committee they were suppose to oversee the elections not make f*****g decisions over transfer .
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who is affected the most by this transfer? Sergi roberto?, Rafinha?, Rakitic?
+1
^ I think iniesta.
+2
Why blame board,lucho asked board to sign him at any cost and w. Would never get him cheap since Chelsea n United on to him.why do we fans taking too much care about transfer fee,we only need to know whether it's a good egg.I remember all the hate our board get when we Suarez arrives,it turns out to be one of the best decision ever n everyone here kissing his ass now,just saying.
atletico were never going to sell below his release clause, don't use our club's name for no reason!
Manchester United :P
Btw, Pirlo has officially joined New York City FC... Now they have Vlla, Pirlo, Lampard.. :O

edit: Arda Turan is an official barcelona player now btw.. :/
Now i cant miss NYCFC matches
Jorge Sampaoli (Chile coach) :" I asked Leo Messi why did he refuse the best player of the tournament award, he answered that he came to win a trophy with his country and that individual trophies doesn't interest him... He has my respect
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But but he force bodies to give him MOTM and MVP , no ?
Just bluffing with media;-)


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89
21
110
4
4
30
38
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92
80
38
118
6
2
30
38
2
78
38
29
67
6
9
23
38
3
77
38
32
70
5
11
22
38
4
76
26
45
71
8
7
23
38
5
60
11
37
48
10
12
16
38
6
55
1
41
42
13
10
15
38
7
51
3
44
47
13
12
13
38
8
50
-6
48
42
16
8
14
38
9
49
-4
51
47
15
10
13
38
10
49
-22
68
46
19
4
15
38
11
46
-7
51
44
14
13
11
38
12
41
-27
62
35
19
8
11
38
13
37
-33
67
34
19
10
9
38
14
37
-31
64
33
21
7
10
38
15
35
-25
60
35
17
14
7
38
16
35
-35
64
29
17
14
7
38
17
35
-21
55
34
21
8
9
38
18
29
-29
64
35
22
8
8
38
19
20
-46
68
22
24
11
3
38
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