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Bayern or Real in the final ?
After watching Liverpool smashing this Roma, "this Roma" lol, we should look for a new coach. No debate. Please do not come up with this undefeated season. It was not down to the coach, but Messi, Stegen, and Umtiti. There are other WC players, but these three were out of the world saving this sh*tty coach's as*. Losing a 4-1 lead to this TEAM! f**K!

Again, no doubt, he needs to be replaced. Not again a mid-table coach into Barca.
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Goalkeeper: MAtS>>>>Karius
RB: Semedo>>>TAA
CBs: Pique and Umtiti>>>Lovren and VVD
LB: Alba>>>Robertson
CDM: Busi>>>Henderson
RCM: Rakitic>>>Oxlade-Chamberlain
LCM: Iniesta>>>Milner
That 3-0 loss to Roma will remain a sad event for the rest of my life. Don't mind losing, but the way it happened was despicably shameful.
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LMFAO when we win it's Messi, Ter Stegen, Umtiti but when we lose its the coach....makes sense.

Did all of those players not play against Roma? Where were they? Now you're gonna blame the tactics. Well since Velverde uses the same tactics how do we win our other games then?
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Wasn't today's game exactly what happened in their first leg with you though?
+4
Players were clearly exhausted due to coach's idiotic non rotation policy. The coach made a grave mistake by playing the main players against Leganes at home 3 days before the Roma game. We already had the league secured so why worry about playing Leganes at home? To maintain the non-defeated league record?

After the Roma game, Valverde stated that he was looking towards the Valencia game prior to the Roma game. This tells me that he underestimated Roma. Not a smart move for a coach.

In my opinion is, he should step down at the end of the season. He is a great coach but not fit for Barca's way of play. Would do great for Chelsea or Juventus.
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I understand if you want to have a reasonable discussion about Valverde's performance over the season, but to predicate the entirety of your arguments on childish name calling makes it very difficult from anyone to take your discussion seriously.

Valverde is not an idiot, nor is he a "shitty mid-table coach." To suggest as much confirms that you either don't understand the issues at stake, or you've chosen to oversimplify them. Valverde has brought a level of pragmatism to the club which most of us have been desperately asking for. And whilst some of the criticism levelled against him are warranted, it is naive and daft to ignore what he's been able to accomplish, given everything that's taken place over the past year.

In any event, it's much easier to criticize than to provide an alternative solution: who would you have replace the coach who's about to win the double in his first season?
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If the same sh*t happens next season due to his idiotic defensive approach, I am sure some of you people will still defend his pragmatic philosophy that gets you nowhere near in the Europe. For God sake, we have the best players in the world. -_- Rotation and tactics are main things based on how we do in a given competition which arrogance of Valverde failed. He played defensively with players like Messi, Suarez. No dembele?

My eyes were in tears (sarcastically) while watching how our players were tired and no game plan. No f**king midfield! Defenders long-pass attackers.
I frankly don't understand why Barca would let go of Iniesta, he may not be able to start every game , but he still have a good 30 min in him every game, he can be brought to unlock tough games and what not. He still has a good 2~3 years as a amazing sub, why let him go away when we still can use him big time. I don't think we have a lot of players like him who can unlock games with one pass.
His leaving for business. He wants to grow his wine business and I heard 2 million worth of his wine is heading China next year with deals to advertise his business as well. I'm sure he wants to continue to play football but not in Spain.

A legend like him deserves to leave on top and I think its the right time for him.
Agree with Moe66.
It's not 2 million worth of his wine but 2 million bottles of wine. So even if he is selling it at 25 bucks per bottle, its 40m per year.

Also, I'm pretty damn sure that he's tired of the competition and pressure related to playing for the best club in the world. Imagine having to wake up early in the morning to go for football practice since age 5, not getting to live a normal life and having to listen to ungrateful fans when you lose for 30 years.

The guy needs a break to lead a normal life with his family. He's achieved everything that any player wants to achieve including scoring the winning WC goal!
I'm not against his decision and yes football in China can bring him a bit more time for his family. It takes this big pressure from your shoulders. Don't forget that he is our captain and the engine of this team. Now it's time to make business and play football at a lower level. Age has its pitfalls.

I wish him all the best. The door will always be open for him to come back.
I see where you are coming from, few comments though:
- everyone of us wakes up early in the morning everyday , either for school or for work, so that doesn't change anything. even if he does pursue his business, he will wake up early in the morning.
- If we take out the captaincy load away from him, hopefully, he can be a single contributor and no stress,
- At 33 he is still pretty young guys, we are not talking 40 or 50, 33 that is pretty young, most folks will graduate at 23 ~ 25 and just start working life. How bad working as football players can be comparing to some other jobs ?
- The board should work something with Rakuten to sell his production, without having him leave, he can go for business trips and tours in Asia if he wants too
- I just think it is early to retire, he still have plenty to offer, and we badly need him as a non starter.
Poor millionaire professional athletes, why won't people feel sorry for them?
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Reports in Spain suggest Lionel Messi has urged Barcelona to offer Ousmane Dembele to Liverpool in an effort to bring Mohamed Salah to the Nou Camp. What are your thoughts?
Haha no but you can have Moreno
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Dembele's middle finger of the left leg > Moreno's entire career. ;)
VV needs to give Ousmane playing time, he has great speed, but if the coach doesn't let him play enough and in manageable games, he is not going to get his confidence back anytime soon.I say VV should start Ousmane the rest of the season.
Keep Ousmane he is only 20 and has a lot of potential. Tell Messi to keep quiet.
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OK, I will tell Messi to keep quiet. ;)
Which Barca will win?

A:
Ter Stegen
Semedo Pique Verma Alba
Rakitic Paulinho Coutinho
Dembele Suarez Arnaiz

B:
Cilleson
Roberto de Ligt (N) Umtiti Cucev(N)
Eriksen (N) Busi Arthur
Messi Alcacer Griezmann (N)
A wild Roma appears out of no where and beats them both!
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Betis almost helped us win the league without playing the next game.
Iniesta is just indescribable. You just cannot define him in words, he’s just that f*****g special. There’s a reason why he gets applauded everywhere- in Spain and outside of it. There’s just some vibe he gives on the ball- like it’s his and he decides when it should be released. Every pass is just brilliant. Pep once said that most players just pass like ’here’s the ball, do something’. When Iniesta passes, it’s like a gift- so perfectly weighted that the receiver has more options, more control. You cannot quantify an Iniesta performance in stats, or highlights. You just have to watch him. That’s all I can say, but it’ll never be enough.

We love you Don Andres, and wherever you go, just know you’ll be loved by every single Cule (and football fan) out there.
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That's why I don't undestand how people can compare Iniesta to other midfielders. Yes he's coming towards the end of his career but the guy plays with so much elegance, so much flair.

I will forever be thankful that I've seen this man play through out his career. I will not only be telling my children about Messi and Ronaldo but also about this man. Opponents respect him. Opposition fans respect him. Gets standing ovation everywhere he goes including Bernabeu.

Watching him cry made me very emotional. I wish him noting but the best.
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He gets applauded in Spain for scoring the winning goal that got Spain their first world cup. :P
+1
totally agree SIF, his WC wining goal is the key for Spain applauds, but he is also respected throughout the world even from opponents for his grace and skills.
It seems like this is the end of the wonderful times we had with the illustrious Andrés Iniesta.

After Puyol left, Barça became Xavi's. When the greatest midfielder left, it was Iniesta's Barça. Now it is truly Messi's.

All the best Don Andrés, thank you so much for the wonderful memories.
+2
We all gonna miss him. Hopefully, Arthur will bring such magic to our team next year. Sad that he will be gone, but more sad that he is still arguably the best midfielder in the world. Best wishes to him for his future. Thank you Don for everything. You are a class above the class, a unique gem, that Barca will never ever forget. :(
Of course somebody has to cut onions as soon as Iniesta leaves the pitch. I was hurt when Xavi left us but I can't imagine life without the Don :(
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And that's what I f*****g love about this team. Coutinho has been working really hard tonight and you can tell he wanted a goal. Good for Messi to give him the penalty.

Hopefully Coutinhos first of many finals goal.


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