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seems that Juve fans has been divided with the case of Claudio Marchisio

one side want him to stay at the club

the other want him to depart, maybe due to the fact that he spent more time in club clinic rather than on the pitch

Me, personally? I want him to stay, the matter of fact is, Claudio is the current longest serving Juve player, having been with the team in youth sector since 1993 to date. Along with Buffon, and probably Chiellini, i would include Barza in the mix too, considering his best years were at Juve, Marchisio is one of our club icon, like Paul Scholes for United, and Andres Iniesta for Barca, for example

on professional note, seeing that he's currently injury ridden, maybe a starting spot just too much for him. Principino can always be our super-sub, but atleast he's still with the team

last thing i wanted our club to be is selling our "soul" and becoming like a typical business-oriented club alone.
Cruciate ligament injury is the worst s**t that can happen to someone. Recovery is 6 months but most players don't return the same.
I remember a month ago when Khedira was off form, angry to see him starting over Marchisio but I guess he relapsed. I don't think anyone would want him to leave. And if he has injury issues who would want him anyway? He'll work it out.
So new year, new perspective.


First of all let me say the obvious. The final loss broke me and while taking these months off helped, I think it is going to take something special to bring me back to fully supporting again.

This team may seem exciting to some on the outside with all the attacking power we signed, the core of what made the team great is slowly dissolving. Somewhat mirroring Claudio's situation making sporadic appearances.



Anyway, at this point I think this team will have a problem beating Spurs (looking at their form) let alone get into another final. This team seems to fall apart periodically and it's not a weak bet to make for CL.

Sure, the league stats don't point to anything especially alarming, but the performances tell something else.

The problem with Allegri and this team is that he isn't an offensive coach, which is nothing new. Throwing attackers on the field doesn't mean much unless you train weekly in offensive tactics. From what I saw, it's the same as the past years. Players look around where to pass, no movement. If there is movement, there is no pass. A lot of passes in the last third miss because the players have no idea what the other wants. Why? because it is not practiced in training.

Not talking about playing 5v5 on a small goal. I mean actual passing drills and formations to know how to move without thinking.


and I know I said this basically every year, but you cannot play offensive football like this.

this all leads to our defense suffering and most people end up criticizing them.



So small rant over. The point I wanted to make is that while it seems like the team is fine overall, I think a switch should have been made while we still have veterans in the team. Buffon and co. leave, a new manager comes in with new players and we may become a marketing team following financial based trend that the board started. Missing substance and heart.
When you say 'switch', I'm not completely sure I understand- a switch in manager? Formations? I don't know that a switch in manager would have allowed for the results that we are seeing right now, especially in keeping pace with Napoli and pulling away from Inter. I know that you are not the biggest Allegri supporter, but I'm curious who you had in mind out there to come replace him, and if you think he would have done better than what we are right now.


All that being said, I also question some of Allegri's decisions. What I have learnt over the past few seasons is that he moves this pieces around and experiments so that when the business end of the season comes, he knows what things work for his current squad and what things don't.


You may have your wish answered come July- there is talk about him going to Chelsea, with Conte's departure all but assured at this point.
There are probably talented managers out there we are not aware of. Same thing isn't true for the board I'm guessing. Many of them could possibly make a name for themselves if given a better team.

All I know is that we reached the CL final 3 years ago and haven't really made any improvements. This year, Allegri shifted to playing 4-2-3-1 completely and we brought in wingers, but if tactically the team doesn't change, the formation is just a number and continues to rely on the player's individual performances.

But, none of the wingers impressed so far. So are we playing to our strengths with this formation? We are more forced into it again with Claudio getting injuries.
To be fair, Allegri did try to step back to a 4-3-3 lately, but we don't have the midfield without Marchisio.

So I just feel like a fresh start would be preferred to this waiting to fail once again.


I'm not afraid to losing the Scudetto. Napoli are strong every year and drift out in the crucial months. Inter already proved they are hot and cold.
Your points regarding our attacking play is valid. But you still did not have an answer for Sam's question. Who do we replace him with?
I'm not as sure to say there are options out there. Because you know we can't compete financially with the top teams in Europe so Guardiolas are out of question.
People are quick to forget how Allegri took us to 2 CL finals with nowhere near the transfer budget of our rivals.
The fluidity of the attack is not as good as it should be but our defence has been solid for years. I look at teams like Liverpool and as great they are to watch, they never get anywhere but we do.
I guess I agree and I don't agree to a certain extent but you gotta throw in a name at least. Sarri? Would you bring Conte(if he doesn't leave in a year again. )back? Carlo?
I agree with Jujex in that we are quick to forget what Allegri has done for us- those 2 CL finals are 2 more than Conte managed with us and he has maintained a standard of performance that we have all enjoyed, regardless of the aesthetics of the football.

Allegri experiments, but he will always resort to what has worked in the past. He has tried improving on wing play this season, with varying degrees of success.....but at least he tried.

I can honestly say that I don't have anyone in mind to replace Allegri right now- there is a mentality and standard of excellence here that exist in few other places and few can handle that- Ancelotti probably would, but I also feel like we would lose a minimum of 7 games a season with him- his teams can look fun but they have been defensively vulnerable in recent seasons.
I enjoy watching Sarri's teams offensively, and his focus on continued improvement will mean that he is hired somewhere bigger in coming seasons.

For now, I am fine with Allegri- I still think he will look for a new challenge in the summer.
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Suprise visit from boss, welcome back Don Lippi...!!
Make sure that cigar is ready Mr. Agnelli...
since there's not gonna be any Juve match till 22nd of Jan, last i read was that Cagliari wouldn't be charged of any sort regarding their fans abusive chants towards some of Juve players last week

imagined if the Juve fans had done that instead...F'kin FIGC..
Pjaca scored on his debut at Schalke!
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just watch the highlight, great game but my god wtf is going on with Sturaro...I'll take lord Padoin over him...
as harsh as for me to say this...Stefano is not the kind of Juve level player... not even the level of the likes of Padoin/Simone Pepe

with Emre Can closing in on joining Juve he(Sturaro) probably be the 1st to go out
You guys forgot to mention Giac
what a match. Should've buried it by 4-0 atleast in the first half

but Coppa semis here we come
I wish him well and hope he bounces back to the point he is back with us in 2018!!



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what an upset last night. Atalanta downed Napoli at San Paolo to reach Coppa Italia semi final (probably they want to maintain their focus on Serie A, and i'm not surprised if they bow out of Europa League after this)

having said that, even with our home advantage we should never take Torino lightly
our defensive streak came to an end, what's more, by our former player, and a brilliant goal nonetheless

but who cares, another streak continues, Dybala with a brace, both with his RIGHT footed strike, and could've been a hat-trick if not for the offside call for the free kick near the end

btw, seems this like heading to a main race between us and Napoli, with our closest rival dropping points.
I Watched the highlights. Was really happy to see Caceres with that rocket! He's been through a lot over the past couple of years.
Dybala looks happy which is good news.
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Watched the match. Our old boys Caceres and Romulo were bossing the field. Both of them seemed to be playing full back, winger, and striker for the entire match. Ran tirelessly. Kean had some good tricky movement too, but Benatia had him locked most of the time.

Dybala tho. :))
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Serie A Table

Form
PTS
GD
GA
GF
L
D
W
Pl
Pos
51
31
13
44
1
3
16
20
1
50
34
15
49
2
2
16
20
2
42
20
15
35
2
6
12
20
3
40
24
24
48
3
4
12
19
4
39
16
14
30
4
3
12
19
5
30
7
29
36
7
3
9
19
6
30
5
26
31
6
6
8
20
7
28
6
27
33
9
1
9
19
8
28
8
21
29
6
7
7
20
9
28
1
27
28
4
10
6
20
10
28
-2
27
25
8
4
8
20
11
24
-7
30
23
10
3
7
20
12
22
-12
32
20
8
7
5
20
13
21
-6
22
16
9
6
5
20
14
21
-17
30
13
11
3
6
20
15
20
-13
31
18
12
2
6
20
16
15
-17
38
21
11
6
3
20
17
15
-25
38
13
13
3
4
20
18
13
-23
41
18
13
4
3
20
19
7
-30
43
13
17
1
2
20
20
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Form
PTS
GD
GA
GF
L
D
W
Pl
Pos
14
8
1
9
0
2
4
6
1
11
2
5
7
1
2
3
6
2
7
-1
9
8
3
1
2
6
3
1
-9
13
4
5
1
0
6
4

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