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Great article about alli being better in a central midfield pairing rather than behind the striker.

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/why-spurs-are-actually-better-when-dele-alli-plays-deeper
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Yes and no, and scroll further down on that page and there's an article from Glenn Hoddle arguing the opposite. Dele himself insists having Dier behind him allows him the freedom of playing further forward. Dembele has had a great season and that gives the possibility of picking and choosing between him and Dele. I quite enjoy Dembele further forward but Poch, like Hoddle, seems to prefer the opposite.
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Different in Mindsets:

Arsenal fans (5 points from top): FFS, that's it, we're out of the title race, we don't deserve this, once again settle for 4th place, #wengerout #sameoldarsenal

Tottenham fans (5 points from top): 5 points from top, guys! We can totally do this, sure it'll be tough, but if we keep going we can win the title. What an amazing time to be a Spurs fan.

You can talk about past experience and expectations, but Tottenham clearly has a fantastic attitude and atmosphere around it right now, and I think it is absolutely affecting where we are in the table and where we may end up. It's not just the coach and team that needs to have the right attitude, it needs to be there in the stadium, home and away, as well. COYS
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I think arsenal fans just now Know that they won't win it, everyone started buying into it and I tried telling them to stop they're dream.
As long as no1 in our club mentions that "arsenal are on a downward spiral of events" then I'm happy
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I think we don't do well enough against the top teams to win the title. Top 4 is definitely within reach though.
Well, narrow losses to United and Leicester after having dominated them., draw with Arsenal and we hammered City. We're in the thick of it, so never say never!
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well they are 5 points off but on a winless in 4 slide. you guys are 5 points off and comfortably won your last 3. different circumstances.
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Judging from when we last played Watford, Poch could try this:

--------------------------Lloris-------------------------------
------------Alde-------------Dier-------------Wimmer-----------
-Walker----------------------------------------------Rose-
--------------------Alli----------Dembele----------------------
---Lamela-----------------------------------------Eriksen
----------------------------Kane-------------------------------

3 at the back worked well last time we played the hornets. However, then we had Verty playing the wide CB role, something he has a lot of experience with having done it many times for Belgium. What do you think?
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That's what I think it will be too, need to try and diffuse the partnerships uo front and this is the best way to do that
Yep, I'd like to see that exact line-up.
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Great line-up, Son and Chadli will be good impact subs as well. However I think if we play 3 CBs, Trippier wouldn't be a bad shout for RM as he has terrific crossing ability.

Hopefully we get another win and continue this streak before we get to the big games like Arsenal and Man City.
Ighalo and Deeney are going to be a handful. Defense needs to be top notch if we are to win.
Walker > Trippier. I think it has become a myth that Trippier's crosses are so fantastic... They haven't been.
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No other EPL right back I'd have these days instead of Walker.
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@Wingson Myth? Nonsense. He always puts the ball into dangerous areas.
Myth how? He puts fantastic crosses but no one gets on the end of it(most of the times). Only thing you could say is he doesn't have Walker's athleticism so can't get up & down the pitch as quickly as Walker can.
Myths aren't often backed up by stats though are they? A myth is still better than Walker's non-existent crossing. Have a watch of Trippier's last game for us, and see how many times he crossed the ball into the danger area.

The only thing that Walker holds above Trippier is pace. The only thing Walker holds above anyone is always his pace. If Trippier was as quick as Walker there would be no doubt about who our starting RB would be.

Despite all this, I do agree with Northstream, no other RB I would have instead of Walker these days. His athleticism is unique. I have suggested Trippier because if we are playing 3 at the back, it means playing further up the field and Trippier statistically can create more.

When was the last time we could even debate the RB position? Walker has had a free uncontested reign at it for years. The competition in our team is rife, and I'm loving it.
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Spot on, FayJay.
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I think there can still be some questions asked of his crosses. What's the point of a cross in to "a dangerous area" if they're not addressed to someone in particular, or even cross before there's someone in the box?
Trippier had one of his better EPL games for us at Watford, setting up the winner with a pin-point ball despite being under pressure. He did however still finish the match with the lowest pass completion of all starting outfield players (65.8%), and only 2 of his 9 crosses (which are counted separately to passes) found a man. He has improved from earlier in the season but Walker is a definite first choice.

PS. Walker does not only have pace but a fantastic physique, so strong regardless of what big bully he's up against. Pochettino has also hugely developed his positioning and overall defending!
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Getting crosses in works the opposition keeper/defenders, thereby creating chances. Of course the majority of those are going to be cleared, especially when teams park the bus when playing against us. 2 out of 9 against Watford, one of which got us the winning goal, is not bad at all. It's certainly better than what Walker does when he either tries to beat his man but instead runs the ball out of play for a goal kick, or stops, makes a couple of step-overs, then passes back giving the opposition time to regroup.

I think some of you are asking too much of one and setting the bar too low for the other. Yes, Walker should be first choice ATM, but Trippier's not too far off.

As for stats, they aren't my thing as they're often misleading. The only stats I'm concerned about are goals scored/conceded and chances created, and even those need to be taken in context; anything else is a bonus. Sure, Trippier could do better with his passing, but it's much easier to get ~90% pass completion rates passing the ball back to someone ready to receive it than attempting quick one-twos or finding a man with crosses.

In any case, it's a good problem to have.
For me, Trippier frustrates me more than he excites me. That used to be the case with Walker but these days he's in general great to watch and he's become a more complete defender. I don't think Walker gets enough credit from how we can allow ourselves to set up with him in the team.
I didn't get to see the whole game so guys I'd like to know how wimmer played, must be one of the only matches I've had to work through ffs
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I thought he looked fairly comfortable again, however he conceded a few freekicks and could easily also have caused a penalty. He's a pretty decent back-up but hopefully Vert won't be out too long.
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Northstream summed it up pretty much. It was his first start in a PL game, and Norwich were able to put 4 past Liverpool, so this match could have gone anywhere.

Wimmer looked comfortable for the most part, Alderweirald and Wimmer are not as strong a partnership as with Vert, but it worked. I think with more playing time together they could form a solid defence.
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As North said, comfortable for most part but a few unnecessary fouls. needs a game or 2 to calm his own nerves IMO.
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I think that foul on Naismith was definitely a penalty. Very lucky to get away with it.
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I agree ss, stonewall penalty. I think his passing range is better than jan's but in every other way he is worse. Still, for a first pl start, I think he did very well. The real test comes against inhalo and Deeney. I think we're going to have to out score Watford in that game as I can see us conceding a few.
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I think we will play with the 3 at the back against Watford, a lot of teams have done that to deal with the 2 strikers and we should put 3 there aswell
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Wimmer had a shakey game, but I think he's a fast learner and should be ready to play as a Prem player.

Aside from the penalty calls (although he gave Alli a penalty, and Naismith not, I think the key thing to notice is this; Bassong had fouled Alli by kicking his foot which was being used to kick the ball, had he not fouled him Alli could have scored or passed it to Kane so it was a definite penalty. Wimmer was going to win the ball and you can argue that he did with his shoulder, in a one on one situation you will always expect the taller guy to win a header, Naismith had no chance to get it and he waited to be clattered by Wimmer who was trying to win the ball. There is some controversy of course about these calls, but those are my 2 cents.), I think the refs and assistants had a terrific game; they made all the right calls, called offsides correctly and handled all the fouls well.
I'm still not convinced that Bassong fouled Alli there, it seemed like there was barely a touch and I am not convinced by any of the replays. Bit scary to think that had the ref called those two penalty incidents correctly, it would've been 1-1.
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MOTM: Agent Bassong
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Does anyone else feel like this is not real? We have a +25... Let me repeat that... +25!!!... I keep feeling like I will wake up and see 1... This is insane...
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Now used it. :D

What's unreal is we are out-performing the opposition in style, every single week!
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Its mental, with just Toby coming in and having a proper holding midfielder has done this for us
I'm just loving this goal difference!
We nick 3rd place because we're 10 goals better off than the goons!
@WHR pretty bold statement considering the impact Dele Alli has had. I know he was bought in January, but we didn't get him until this season. Also the addition of Son has provided healthy competition which has seen increased performances from Chadli and Lamela. It has always been a Spurs problem getting goals, but a +25 goal difference shows we have improved both our attack and defence massively.
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Oh yeah I know those goals were needed and it's helping fayjay, but we was scoring quite a few last season but conceded only less goals than the 3 relegated teams, so it's the shipping goals that is more positive imo
man you guys must be in heaven. 5 points off top spot, 2nd most goals scored, fewest conceded. highest goal difference. definitely nailed on top 4, and genuine contenders for the title at the moment.
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Nothings nailed on yet. Although this is the most confident I've felt in Tottenham for a long time, theres still a LOT more games to play in 3 competitions. But I have utter faith in the team, I repeat, the TEAM. Not just a VDV or Bale or Kane. Thats the best thing about right now, we're doing well as a cohesive unit.
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Still a long way to go...
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Second that, Spursaussie. This is all about team effort. In yesterday's game none in particular stood out but the team as a whole gets the job done.
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And.... We're above the Arsenal :)
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Shhhh! Don't say it too loud or they'll hear you
Don't jinx it!!!
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Haha. Meh, some of my diluted Arsenal fans seem to think you'll get knocked back to earth. I think not. Once defense was established it would be one way up.
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I don't think we will get knocked back down. If Arsenal does well, then maybe, but won't be because we fade away IMO.
Great solid win without expending too much energy. All the early subs were definitely to maximize rest, particularly for Alli.

And the Arsenal forum meltdown has commenced.
I think Alli was unwell/ill.
Either ways, rest is much needed.
Still think Eriksen needs some rest as well.
Dembele with 7 tackles and 5 interceptions. This guy is my player of the season so far by quite some way
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Ok Paddy! Stop reminding after every match. Makes some of us look like fools you know. :P
tehe I told you so!
Paddy got should change your pic to a dembele photo, lol
Poor decision to bring Carroll on. We need Lamela's energy!
Why did Alli go off at the half? I missed the first few minutes of the second half.
Felt a bit sick.


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