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Why aren't we up for shaqiri. Amazing player, loves to run at defenders and only available for 12m. What a trio would Eriksen-Lamela-shaqiri would be!!
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I know I'm amazed we aren't having a look. Thought we should have tried in January. Here's a guy who can definitely score from midfield .
Agreed. No clue why Stoke are in the lead to sign him.
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Iago Falque has joined AS Roma
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Yeah, got a cheeky 1M for his transfer to Roma. Sneaky business by Levy!
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He joined on loan. We will get f**k all.
A shame to finally read that Hamburg have purchased Holtby permanently. He has so much passion for the game, really wish he could have succeeded with us. Just wasn't meant to be.
Never really got enough run of games to show what he can do. Even Paulinho got significantly more game time than he did. I wonder where everything went wrong.
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Gonna miss him :(
So this is what Heartbreak feels like...I remember the first time he came on the field in a Spurs shirt, immediately seemed to link up with every player out there. Then he got that absurd yellow card, and I feel like his reputation was somewhat tarnished from then on.

Also that amazing game where he and Defoe tore apart the opposing defense, something like 3 assists for Holtby. That insane through-ball lob that Defoe headed in...Agh.

An honest to god crying shame. I think that he could've solved a lot of our problems in the middle of the park. But for some reason he just didn't get his chance under three different managers. Like I said, heartbreaking.
Maybe I remember it differently, but I never recall Holtby doing much more than being insanely lovable and running around a ton. He had that (europa?) match where he got 3 lovely assists...but that's it. I'm not sure why anyone thinks he'd be any better than Mason in the pivot, considering he's always been an AM and never excelled in defensive positioning. Don't get me wrong, his attitude, workrate, and charisma were off the scale, but that was about it.

I don't know guys. I hate to be a downer - I loved Holtby's presence as much as anyone - but there must be a reason why 3 different managers all passed on him.
I agree with you Isnotfish, but at the same time, he never really got given a chance. Mason got given a chance after he scored a wonder goal; the rest is history because Poch doesn't trust the rest of the team.
But Holtby never had a wonder goal to get himself going, and after that amazing Europa performance, he wasn't given the same opportunities as Mason.

"Don't get me wrong, his attitude, workrate, and charisma were off the scale, but that was about it. " Sounds like Poch's perfect player to be honest! Which is why I really WISH he had succeeded with us, had Poch been given more of a chance with Holtby.... who knows!

Of course there is a reason why 3 different managers didn't want him, I just wish we could be told/shown why, we as fans can only see all of his good points, what was he doing wrong in training? It was 3 managers at Spurs, along with 2 at Fulham; 1 of which was an ex-manager of his who didn't like him anyways, and now he's a permanent Hamburg player.
So we have made a couple of astute signings so far with Wimmer and Trippier. Both are young with lots of potential who add depth to important positions for us. I can totally see the two of them getting legit game time next season and staking a claim for first team football the following year.

We have started the deadwood clear out with Paulinho heading to the overpaid wasteland of chinese football. There is still plenty of players left to be moved on but I'm feeling confident that Baldini is actually going to prove his wrth when it comes to getting deals done. While he failed with his choice in signings he still got the deals done. I reckon he will be just as good at getting deals done when it comes to selling players. He still has those connections all over the world!

If Baldini can indeed shift our forest of deadwood then it will come down to Mitchell to find the players Poch actually needs in his system. For the first time since in years we don't need any wing backs but on the down side every other position could arguably do with an upgrade.

I'm of the belief that we need 3 options for every position. So lets look at the positions while working out how much we could roughly get for the deadwood.

Striker: We really need a another forward option but can we find a buyer for Soldado or will Ade accept a move to anyone but Real Madrid? I think we may be forced to loan out Soldado just to make space.

Kane = 1st choice
Soldado = 9 mil/2nd choice/loan
Ade = 3 mil/3rd choice


Central attacking mid: Eriksen is the most creative and would probs play there against weaker teams but I expect him to play on the left against tougher teams. The question of who plays here when Eriksen is on the left is still wide open imo. Paulinho Mason and even Lamela played a few games here as well last season.

Eriksen: 1st choice
Dembele: 2nd choice/12 mil
Chadli: 3rd choice


Left attacking mid: Chadli is at his best here and certainly had his moments last season. I think he needs to be pushed for his spot tho. Eriksen can play on the left but I don't see as true competition for Chadli due to Eriksens left sided deployment often results in Chadli just being moved centrally. Pritchard may make a claim for first team football next season but I believe he needs a premier league loan and we need another real option. If Eriksen of Chadli are injured we will be totally screwed in 2 positions.

Chadli: 1st choice
Eriksen: 2nd choice
Pritchard: 3rd choice/loan

Right Attacking mid: This is an interesting position as it could stay totally the same or get totally overhauled in every way. I think Lennon is gone already so there is already about 8 mil in the bank.

Lamela: 1st choice/25 mil
Townsend: 2nd choice/15 mil
Pritchard 3rd choice/loan
Lennon: 8mil

Central mid: I'm not going to distinguish between the the two pivots due to my opinion that different combinations would work for different teams. Clearly a position that is packed with deadwood and inexperience. Only Bentaleb is good enough atm imo. Mason and Carroll are useful deputies who will peak in a few years.

Bentaleb: 1st choice
Mason: 2nd choice
Dembele: 3rd choice/12nil
Stamboulie: 4th choice/7 mil
Capoue: 5th choice/7 mil
Carroll: 6th choice
Veljkovic loan/7th choice

Left back: We have two good options and young walker-peters looks to be pushing for a chance in preseason. I do worry a tiny little bit if walker-peters goes on loan and then we then get a long term injury as I believe we need Vert to play centrally as much as possible.

Rose: 1st choice.
Davies: 2nd choice
Vert: 3rd choice
Walker Peters: 4th choice/loan

Right Back: Walker is first choice but I can see Trippier with a legit chance to take his spot by seasons end. Walker-Peters can also play on the right. I understand its actually his natural position but I could be wrong. We don't need any additions to the position at all.

Walker: 1st choice
Trippier: 2nd choice
Dier: 3rd choice
Yedlin: 4th choice/loan
Chiriches: 5th choice/6mil
Walker-Peters: 6th choice/loan

Central defense: This is a very awkward position for me to try and guess how Poch might feel. Vert would have to be first choice and I'm guessing Dier and Wimmer will be competing for the other spot. The rest would be dead wood imo. I think an experienced partner for Vert is vital for our back 4 to be strong next season.

Vert: 1st choice
Dier: 2nd choice
Wimmer: 3rd choice
Fazio: 4th choice
Chiriches: 6mil/5th choice
Kaboul: 7mil/6th choice
Veljkovic loan/7th choice

Keeper: If Lloris goes then we will get a decent fee and shouldn't have too hard a time finding a replacement.

Lloris: 1st choice/25 mil
Vorm: 2nd choice
Archer: 3rd choice

What moves would you do, if Baldini could sell the players you want him to? Keep in mind that any moves you make must result in you having 3 players for every position. For me it is as follows.

Sell: Paulinho (10mil), Chiriches, Kaboul, Stambouli, Capoue, Townsend, Lennon, and Ade.

Loan: Soldado, Yedlin and Walker-peters

That gives us around 62 mil to spend. Add to that around 22 mil of the rumored 30 mil war chest that Levy gave Poch at the start of the season and we have around 80 mil to spend once loyalty clauses are paid out.

The positions we now need to fill are:

We need 2 forwards with one being an experienced goal scorer and the other to be young and perfectly comfortable playing on the left while developing (Llorente/Martial).

We would also need another creative player to replace Townsend on the right but in an ideal world would be able to play across the attacking midfield three (Mirallas). In reality tho I think Poch will keep Townsend.

We would need another top level central mid player (Big Name Signing) with Carroll being promoted up to 5th choice and Veljkovic being 6th. In defense I still think we need another central defender (Alderweireld) but only if we can shift the dead wood that is Kaboul and Chiriches.

In summary that is about 80 mil to sign 4 players. This fits the Levy brief of players around the 15 mil mark too (if you consider signing bonuses and agent fees.) All of which will be in positions where they are in contention for first or second choice football. Alternatively there is 65 mil for 3 players if Townsend stays. What would you do?
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Nice, Hat. Forum's been dead the past couple of days.

Two things I would change:

1. Lamela as 2nd choice CAM behind Eriksen. He's always been better at CAM than on the right, as he himself said. If you look at his best plays, most of them start with him in the middle.

2. I'd give Trippier a run as 1st choice RB at the beginning of the season. Walker's coming off of a bad season riddled with injuries, while Kieran, after getting his big move, has momentum on his side. I certainly wouldn't risk playing Walker at Old Trafford.

Regarding strikers, I do think Bobby's better off getting a fresh start somewhere else, for his own sake. But I wouldn't mind him staying, either. He's still our best CF in terms of technical ability. Chadli and Lamela have a better chance scoring off of him, IMO.
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Yeah i agree with everything you said Amputsz but i tried to anticipate what poch was thinking re lamela. Im glad you liked the post but I don't think anyone else did. I put a fair bit of time into it so I guess I shouldn't waste my time anymore.
Would love to reply, hat, but am on a business trip with a poor connection. Not ideal for a proper deserving reply. I'll try to tonight.

Don't get disheartened bud. The forum always has been dull off season.
Awwwww Hatmundoooo, I still love your posts! Always a good read, without fail.

In terms of an actual reply to "what would you do?", I've played this game every transfer window but this year I'm going to give it a miss. Because there is so much change to the backroom staff, new scouts, new manager, new recruiters etc. I'm just looking forward to who we manage to bring in!
Paulinho to China confirmed
Bigger transfer than Cech to Arsenal. :D
Its a good deal, you guys bought him for 17mil, got back 14mil in return for his sale.
Apparently the fee was around £9.8m. Still a great Levy deal!
That was a brilliant bloody piece of business, I hope China want to buy Balotelli as well haha.
Monaco have told Tottenham to double their offer to £16m if they want left winger Yannick Ferreira Carrasco, 21

Don't know anything about this guy ,but Lamela is being linked back to Italy .
I think Shaqiri may be available also from Inter and I'd love to see him in the Premier.
Lamela will forever be linked to Italy! I've only seen him play once, during the match Monaco rolled Arsenal at the Emirates and he looked pretty handy.


Hope you all have great day/afternoon/night wherever you are!



COYS!!!!!!!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3ZVfk1B-xo

This goal still gives me goosebumps!!!
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guys, what other decent Spurs forum do you read?
No other forums for me. Just on GGTH group on FB.
I visit our forum on reddit when there aren't updates on here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/coys
Cartilage Free Captain is brilliant, with some hilarious commenters and in jokes. A nice community, with sensible ideas and contributions.
thanks guys!

This seems to be good one:
http://www.thefightingcock.co.uk/forum/forums/tottenham-hotspur.4/
Anyone here from Pakistan?
From Pakistan, eh? Cool. You're the first spurs supporter that I have met from Pakistan! Respect :) There are a few of us from across Asia, but as far as I'm aware, your the first one we have from Pak. Hopefully the first of many :D
Haha yeah! Believe me, i am the only Spurs supporter among the people i know. I am used to getting a lot of stick from my friends regarding my choice of club lol. But i know that the glory days aren't far now=) COYS
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ZA95, I know the feeling, mate. :P
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Same here. I've yet to meet a fellow Yid here in Saudi Arabia. Everyone supports Chelsea, Real Madrid or Barcelona here. There used to be a lot of Man United fans, too. But they've all disappeared :p
Hey, I'm from Pakistan! Karachi to be exact, although I'll be moving to Michigan for college this fall.
Haha good to see im not the only one lol.

@FootballDoc, wow good to hear. I might move to Houston Texas as well.
My FotMob app just notifies me we're close to sign Konoplyanka.
I remain unconvinced by his ability to be good in the EPL. The only good reason for us to sign him would be that he's a free signing. He's got a host of bad habits. Ball hogging, shooting from a predictable distance, not seeing a pass quickly and missing a good pass, over dribbling and turning over possession... He's like a mixture of Townsend and Lamela's bad practices into one. I don't see him as some sort of instant success in the PL, regardless of who he signs for.
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I wouldn't mind this signing, IF it helps us spend big in centre-midfield.
Trust me lads, he will be a star. Ball-hogging players usually become a lot less selfish when they move to a team where they're no longer the top dog. Every time I've seen this lad play, he's been a beast, and I have a feeling he will take the PL by storm.

Plus he's free, which is just ridiculous.
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The last few times I've seen him play:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CfRzQvlF5g vs Napoli

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0EK2LC2Jbc vs England

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T5Nz034G9E vs Inter

I haven't seen dribbling ability and acceleration like that in a long time.

I mean, Christ, have a look at his performance vs Sevilla in this year's Europa League Final!
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All just rumours, apparently. His dad/agent came out denying the medical.
Wouldn't be a huge fan of him- attitude issues, low defensive work rate... I'd rather just keep Townsend as a back up and hope he improves in Europa games.
^ Same. TBF, though, workrate isn't fixed and can be improved. He does bring something we haven't had in a while--making opposition defenders nervous and fall on their asses.

Personally, I'd rather see how Chadli does and if he can replicate the form that got him his PL move. Very underrated.
Looks set to be moot point as he's been spotted in an airport in Madrid, apparently.
I remain confident


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