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Kaboul Captain

Hugo and Ade vice captains

Confirmed
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Surprised Jan wasn't Vice tbh. Fair enough though.
+1
Ade? Crikey.
Imo,terrible decision
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Hugo must be wondering, what have I done to even deserve to be named in the same breath as Kabs and Ade. :P
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@Rogue: TO answer your question from the post below, it was clearly NOT a public vote. xD
I meant players will vote. I'm worried they might not even have a basic functional brain now. :P
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Rule 2.10 Announcement
In accordance with Rule 2.10 of the City Code on Takeovers and Mergers (the "Code"), THFC confirms that, as at the close of business on 12 September 2014, it had 213,102,209 ordinary shares of 5 pence each in issue. The International Securities Identification Number for THFC shares is GB0008962986.

This has just been posted on our offical site. I hope that doesn't mean what I think it means.
+1
Legal formalities IMO. Read a previous statement from Cain Hoy last week. They are CONSIDERING a cash offer. Looks like not even a price has been set and all depends on if both can agree on a proper price(also read as 'absurdly high price' ).
+1
:)
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Vertonghen for club captain? he has my vote!
+1
It a strange cos I thought they said it would be announced after the window closed,that was a while ago now,I'd take him as captain of he can stop moaning
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Rogue, Poch confirmed that the team would vote for a new captain and it would be announced/confirmed on Monday i.e. Today.
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If it's a public vote where can we vote?
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I watched the game yesterday on an audio-less and rather patchy stream, with the girlfriend trying to distract me, but feel that I saw a fair bit.
I wasn't worried the whole game, we completely controlled it, Particularly the first half, 72% away from home is almost unheard of for 45 mins and as close to mastery as you can get. I enjoyed it.

But it was nothing new, in all honesty. Ignore where the blobs are on the team sheet and 'systems.' In possession, offensively, it seemed incredibly similar to how it was first season with AVB; controlled, patient possession in their third, without a great deal of risk taking or impetus. We have increased in ball players, number 10s, but still fail to create genuine chances. Still a lack of through balls, not a great deal of crosses and a reluctance to shoot. Huge periods of complete possession with very little end product. And the other end we still have defensive lapses which cost us.
We scored in the 2nd minute and the 2nd minute of the 2nd half, so you can easily argue that we only scored when Sunderland were still fresh from the dressing room and weren't properly switched on. I know that may be an excuse we'd use if we conceded at those moments. The first was from a parried shot, the second a tap in after a defensive blunder, so nothing masterful there.
And we conceded 2 goals to a team expected to push relegation all the way.
Our other 2 victories were also at relegation candidates, one a 95th minute winner, and we got humbled by a decent team in Liverpool.
All sounds rather familiar to me, and I feel our victories have flattered us.

Not sure where I'm going with all this, but I do feel that someone will have to step up to score the goals otherwise I can see it being a similar story to the past few years. I still think we'll struggle for goals.
Hopefully MoPo's system has some more evolution yet, looking forward to seeing where it leads us.
i share your sentiments, almost exactly. the only difference i'd say we had is that i don't think our final third production is as dire as it was under avb. i dont have any numbers to back this opinion but it felt like we were able to pull of more outside the box shots than we used to under avb. i def feel we need to pull of a win against a top 4 side to get our confidence going and prove we've got what it takes.

btw...i beat you by only 3 points! close game. cheers.
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Christ ok I'll answer you as I answered SpursTillIDie:

I happen to think that we were fantastic against Sunderland. We shot ourselves in the foot due to our inability to finish off chances. How you can compare our start to the season to AVB is just beyond me. It is basically shining the light on the comparative possession while paying no attention to the other areas in which we have developed.

Firstly, our team now nearly always looks for the vertical pass before the backwards/horizontal. This caused Dembele to shine against Sunderland, as he was able to pass forward and then push up while Ade/Eriksen held it up before they could combine. One example comes when Dembele plays the ball to Eriksen who does a 1-2 with Ade and then flicks the ball over the Sunderland defense for Ade to strike ball straight at Mannone.

Secondly, our players aren't gaining possession and then passing it into easy places while not looking for the incisive pass. Our players are sprinting after Sunderland, constantly winning the ball back and then looking to play cute, one-touch football in order to break through. In this way, we are extremely exciting to watch and also threaten to break through their line on numerous occasion. We failed to score many against Sunderland because Eriksen, Lamela and Adebayor forgot their finishing boots, and because Sunderland made some vital blocks, but mainly because Mannone played a blinder.

I'll provide some stats to back up what I'm trying to say:

We had 15 shots, 7 were saved by Mannone (on target), 6 were blocked by Sunderland and 2 hit the post. That is a total of 15 shots, 13 on target and 2 hitting the post.
13 chances were created by Tottenham against Sunderland (2 more than United created against QPR today in which they won 4-0!!!).

Sunderland had one shot on target and this demonstrates how Moussa and Capoue dominated the centre of the park. However, Poyet is right in saying that Sunderland played the best he's seen them in a long time. This shows how close we were to breaking through and creating even more goal-scoring chances:

Rodwell: 8 tackles!
Larsson: 4 tackles
Cattermole: 4 tackles, 3 interceptions
van Aanholt: 2 tackles, 2 interceptions.
Brown: 3 tackles, 3 interceptions.

This is to name a few. Sunderland did fantastically defensively and yet we managed to create enough chances to nearly score 4/5 goals! They also obtained 5 yellow cards for preventing clear runaway chances from our players.

The referee allowed Clattermole and his mates to hack and chop until the 80th minute by which time it was a tad late and the damage had been done. Then he booked five of theirs and one of ours, Dier, rightly peeved at not getting a penalty.

Our defensive errors led to 2 goals out of sheer s**t luck. Sunderland had one shot on target and 2 goals (one deflected, one own goal) which shows how well we played defensively.

Anyway, I can throw loads of stats at you, but at the end of the day, you watched the match as I did. I thought we played brilliantly and I'd never seen such awful luck that we drew. I am also seeing improvements every game from our players and huge steps forward from Poch in making our team devastating to play against.
How you can compare him to AVB's boring, rigid structured formation is beyond me.

I'm hoping this is just post-match blues from you Andy as I've seen fantastic analysis from you in the past and yet you seem to have overlooked how brilliant Tottenham were on Saturday (minus finishing ability). Re-watch the game I'd suggest. Peace x
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I thought it was a bit similar to the AVB tempo too(by the end!). Everyone looked knackered(both teams) towards the end. I don't know what the conditions were but physically a lot of energy had been exerted from both sides. We did create chances with runs behind the defence, unlike under AVB. Besides, AVB had one of the best away records in our club's history. Can't see why it's being complained about. .
Hi Paddy, thanks for the response and all the positive notes since the game on Saturday, I always try to read your posts.

I wasn't trying to be negative about the game, l thoroughly enjoyed the most of it, i thought our measured control of the game was really entertaining and great to see. I agree that I should try to watch again but I rarely get time to watch a game once let alone twice! Even though I do spend hours on here... :-P

I was more talking in generalities about the season, and how it seems thus far to be reminiscent of the AVB era in more ways than one.
I agree we are trying a lot harder to actually create chances, but as of yet it seems only small changes rather than an ideological overhaul.
My main concern will forever be that of us scoring enough goals, and I still feel we will have to win games by a small margin for a lot of our victories this season, as we don't create enough chances or have many natural finishers in the squad.
I wouldn't be critical of AVBs ways too much either, I thought he was unlucky to get the boot and Luke you say Suraj, his away record was great and unheard of before he got here!
Overall I think we're definitely heading in the right direction, I feel my 'stream of consciousness' writing style made it look more negative than I felt, it was more an advisory that we've been here before and should be cautious with our appraisals as there is still much to work on.

And STID, damn man, 71 points not enough to beat you? Grr! Congrats!
+1
Anyone else watching the Man Utd vs QPR game? 3 of our old players are getting spanked my Utd... And the beast just got injured. I feel bad for him yoo... I hope it is not something serious.
QPR are abysmal, it's no surprise we got 4 against them too
+2
Sad to see Sandro gone, worse to hear he's already injured. Was it serious?
+1
Great game especially pleased with lamela and dembele. Seen a lot of people bag his performance which is crazy probs main reason our possession was 70% in the first half.
Lamelas attitude is faultless and is starting to show consistency.

I know lamela and chadli are better players than Lennon but Lennon back tracking was great whenever he played hence why walker and him had a great partnership.
Anyone feel he should start to cover dier especially against top trams?
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I think Lennon does deserve a start. We all want Lamela to be fantastic, so when he does pretty well, we go crazy saying "he's the new Bale" and such. He was alright against Sunderland but I think Lennon deserves a start.
Competition and meritocracy can only make our players stronger (See: Rose, Danny).
danny rose is killing it! had a stinker against liverpool but then again who didnt? next game lennon needs to be subbed on earlier and show he deserves to start.
Hey lads, we're still above: Liverpool, Arsenal, Everton and United and equal with Champions City on points. And we haven't even clicked yet offensively or got our main defence fit. Future's bright under Poch. COYS!
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And we've played Liverpool,I was annoyed earlier about the result just fir the fact we should have won,but there it's plenty off positives
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Yeah I agree, the score doesn't reflect the game, we were far better than them. So unlucky hitting the woodwork twice! Do need to sort out our defence tho.
Our defence has been sorted out mate. Jan/Fazio Jan/Dier (when Walker is back) makes us look completely different :)
still conceded two sloppy goals tho
Exactly, but with a secondary pair of centre-backs. Poch is going to be getting the players on triple sessions after Sunderland.
Tottenham manager Mauricio Pochettino: "When you create a lot of chances it is difficult to accept the draw. You need to have luck and it's true Sunderland had luck.

"We did not kill the game and this happens in football.

"We need to show collectively more calm, more security. We need to win games like this."

Sunderland manager Gus Poyet: "My message to Ricky Alvarez as soon as game finished was 'Welcome to England'. This is what you are going to get week-in-week-out and you have to be ready.

"We nearly nicked it at the end, but that would have not been fair on Spurs.

"I thought we played better but the opposition was best we played so far. We will get the three points in the next couple of weeks."
Sunderland had 1 shot on target. It was just s**t luck we've got to accept it. I'm very excited for the progression we've experienced
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Though we looked "ok". Definitely not as intense as we looked against QPR. Fatigue? It was great to see Stambouli come on and bring in a rush of energy. Chadli worked hard all game. He and Rose, in my opinion, were the best players on the pitch.

I'm going to be critical here. Ade, although as good as he is at holding the ball, seems to always slow the play down. Every time we build for a counter attack he leaves his post, comes back, takes the pass, and passes it backwards. Why? Is there anyone here adept to the tactics of football that can explain to me why it makes more sense, for him to do that, then to stay at the front of the line and create space for the midfielders to move? He did it a couple of times today where we had Sunderland on their heels and it completely killed the play.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Eriksen doesn't look comfortable in the new system. He is phenomenal at picking out passes, even in the tightest of corners, but doesn't move quick enough in the final third for me. Anyone disagree?

Lennon coming on looked bright. The spark we needed but the sub came on too late. Kane...I had high hopes that he'd push the line forward like I mentioned Ade needs to do but, he looked lost, out of sync with the game, and offered 0 to the game.

Dembele's shoulder drop has to lead to something. At some point. It has to lead to something! He shakes off defenders but never pushes his pass into a dangerous area. He is in love with the back pass or side pass. He is the master of the back and side pass.

Finally, Kaboul and Chichi do NOT work. Guessing Verto was injured? Either way, I had dropped, in my head, Kaboul from the starting line up. Contrary to my previous argument of players needing to earn their position, I feel Kaboul has been so poor this season. This was one of his less worse games but thought he could have done better. Chichi is not starter quality. He would make a great impact sub.

Here's hoping we get our bugs sorted quick. Coys!

P.S Dier is not a RB. Today we saw his vulnerability and lack of experience in that position. Back to Naughton? Sigh.
Ok I agree with a lot of what you say, however I think you're taking it to the extreme in some cases.

Adebayor was better today, and seeing him taking some shots outside the box was refreshing (and led to Chadli's goal). However, he does tend to drop back a tad too much at times in places he shouldn't. He was better today than at QPR however, although I still think Kane deserves a PL start. What he offers is direct running, as well as that striker's instinct of being in the right place (Kane's best asset).

I disagree about Eriksen. This was Eriksen's best game since last season. He's not used to the new system, of course he's not, but he's learning and improving and thats all that matters. His movement that you rightly criticise (against QPR and Liverpool he was very static) was much improved today and he saw himself get into some pretty good positions.

Again, am I alone in thinking that this was one of Dembele's best games in a while?! He hit the bar (encouraged to shoot a bit more by Poch I assume) and most of his passing was vertical. Poch's system allows Moussa to thrive while also cutting out the frustrating aspect of his character; back-passing. He doesn't play through balls, but how many of our players do we see making runs?

I agree about Kaboul and Chichi although the former was pretty solid and Chichi improved alot in the second half (couple of great tackles). As our secondary pairing, its not bad.

Overall, I thought we played extremely well offensively today and fairly well defensively (Sunderland had 1 shot on target). However, we had absolutely no luck and the ref was shite all game (awful performance from him)... Just one of those days..

I am seeing huge improvements every week under Poch, and when this play starts turning into goals, we're gonna be flying!

+3
@ Paddy..i was def frustrated at the end of the match. maybe some of that came across on my post. at the end of they day they need to put games like this away. no excuses if tottenham is to achieve top 4.
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Dembele was great. He controlled the midfield. Chadli and Lamela were good too. Eriksen is too inconsistent.
We should've fucken rolled that side. Unbelievable, again very poor goals that we conceded.
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