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My team vs Apoel:

-------------------------------Vorm----------------------------------
-Aurier-------------Alde----------------Sanchez---------------Davies-
----------------------Winks------Dier---------------------------------
--Son-------------------------Sissoko----------------------N'koudou-
--------------------------------Llorente-------------------------------

For me, this match will decide who starts vs Huddersfield between Son and Dele. As people know, I have not been at all impressed with Dele this season whereas Son was a star against Dortmund. If he impresses again tomorrow then he is ahead of Dele in my opinion.

Aurier is banned vs Huddersfield so he should start tomorrow.

Winks deserves a start and I hope for a goal for Sissoko to really boost his confidence as he is playing his best football for Spurs at the moment. Llorente should grab a goal tomorrow, which would be great for his confidence.

Overall this is such an important game, as with Real playing Dortmund, we could be 6 points clear of Dortmund by the end of tomorrow.

COYS!!
That may well be the team, unless he plays KWP on left back.
With Eriksen out sick, Dembele injured and both Dele and Vertonghen suspended Poch is forced to some different thinking.
Eriksen is out sick? Really hope these boys get a good result. This game is a must win to get past the group stages. More important than the Dortmund game imo. I hope Harry starts as goals may become very important!
Wow!

Now nothing comes close to the tenseness of the Dortmund game, but those last 20 minutes against West Ham were very hairy indeed. Still, with all the big teams winning, the 3 points was so vital on Saturday.

I mentioned before that with Rose, Wanyama and Lamela coming back from Injury, and with Llorente and Aurier (quality players) finding their feet, we just need to stay close to the Manchester Clubs and Chelsea until our team hits full gear. When we do, I think that if we can tame Wembley, we will definitely win a trophy and secure top 4 this season.

Here are my player ratings vs West Ham:

Lloris: 8/10 - Hugo was superb against West Ham. Although they didn't have many clear-cut chances to save; his interceptions to prevent Hernandez being 1 on 1 and his spider-like save from the cross at the end were so vital. I could see him really encouraging and organising the defence at the end, and his save to prevent Hernandez scoring from point blank was superb.

Aurier: 6/10 - Would have given this lad an 8 as I thought he had a good game, but his tackle on Carroll to get the second yellow was so so stupid and could have very easily cost us a very important 3 points. Made a great last ditch tackle on Arnautovich in the first half, and didn't give Cresswell or Arnautovich a whiff while he was on the pitch. I think, for now, it is a very close toss up between Trippier and Serge; once again we are very blessed with our full-back choices!

-Aldeweireld - 7/10 - Dealt with Carroll well and caught Hernandez offside so many times that the Mexican looked like he was ready to explode at the end of the match. However, I've noticed he's been a lot more hesitant to play long-balls than last season, and I haven't figured out why that is. It could be to do with Dele (which I'll highlight later) ,Davies (who will naturally make fewer forward runs than Rose) and the lack of Son. Overall, a solid performance from our new Ledley.

Vertonghen - 9/10 - I have been so impressed with Jan recently. He's been my star player so far this season. He's added some really useful forward runs to his game recently, one of which set up Kane's second yesterday. I saw him talking to Sanchez incessantly, encouraging everyone towards the end, and putting in some fantastic challenges. Super Jan!

Davies - 7/10 - This boy has been very steadily improving from the moment he arrived from Swansea. He's never complained at being second fiddle to Rose, and when he's been required to play he's put in so much effort and has offered a lot going forward too recently. However, his aerial game was appalling vs West Ham. I saw him lose 5 consequtive 1 on 1 headers with Zabaleta who is about 2 inches smaller than Ben, and he gave away the ball through a couple go sloppy passes that set off a couple of West Ham counters. I'm being a bit picky, because overall he played admirably. However, this said, Rose is the best LB in the league when fit, and the sooner we have him back, the better.

Dier 7/10 - A good game from Eric. Was solid and blocked off loads of passing lanes to prevent any through balls to West Ham's pace men. Still don't think he's anything on a fit Wanyama but we'll see.

Sissoko 8/10 - Could this be really happening?! Is Moussa Sissoko beginning to get his confidence and shine? This was his best game so far for the club, his defensive work being great and his attacking work really standing out. Played some great through balls and linked up well with Kane. Similar to what happened with Lamela, maybe this guy could show us all up.

Dele 4/10 - Despite the assist, it was a Shocking game from Dele. In fact he's had a terrible start to the season. Loses the ball time after time, and just isn't showing the same desire as the past 2 years. He's missed some sitters in every game this season and has only a tap in to show for the last 5 games. Absolutely needs to be dropped against Huddersfield. Son shone throughout against dortmund, is much faster and is 2 footed whereas Dele is very much right footed. I think the summer talk must have got to his head, and if this continues, he will very soon lose his place to Son, Lamela or Llorente.

Eriksen 9/10 - Boy this kid has gone up another level. He is the player who we really need to keep. I don't doubt Harry's loyalty to Spurs for a second, but a player of Eriksen's quality has to win trophies or he will move to Barcelona or Real. Scored the crucial third goal against West Ham which on replay was a very hard finish. Also played a huge part in both the other goals. What a performance from our record breaking Great Dane!

Kane 9/10 - Great game for Harry. Never stopped running against West Ham and scored a brace as well as hitting the post twice. He is quick becoming my favourite Spurs player ever (I'm only 22) and that is partly because I believe he wants to stay for a very long time. Shouldn't play against Apoel, Llorente needs a start and we need Kane fully rested for the game against high-flying Huddersfield.

Substitutes:

Winks N/A - Made some important tackles and wasted some time but didn't have much of a chance to express himself. I've begun to realise though that this lad is really quite quick.

Llorente N/A - Despite not getting a number out of ten (doesn't make sense for the 10 minutes he was on) he used up about 5 minutes single-handedly and set up Dele at the end for what should have been the 4th. I am so happy we got this lad, not just for his experience, but also because I think he will teach Harry a lot about Aeriel technique and our team a lot about winning. Needs to start vs Apoel.

Trippier N/A - Nothing to report. Needs to have a good game against Huddersfield otherwise he is danger of becoming second fiddle to Serge once our new signing finds his feet in the prem.

Overall, a great game from which our players will have learn a lot. If we can get two wins in the next two games, then this should be the spring from which we really begin to shine. COYS!
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You must be joking re Trippier. He gets on my nerves. He not only can't defend against anyone with a whiff of quality but he's actually right out scared of being isolated in one vs one situations. What he then does is drifting in towards the centre backs and let someone else come out to deal with the threat. It has cost us several goals, incl one against West Ham when he again was hiding from where he should be defending. Aurier obviously is our first choice. The tragedy is that Poch still keeps playing Trippier over Walker-Peters.

Regarding Dele Alli, he needs to go back to the roaming midfielder he was, not try to operate as a no. 10 or whatever the heck he's doing just hanging up on top with Kane. He is becoming too predictable and easier to defend against, and he sure is no striker.
+1
Decent analysis Paddy, great effort as always.

Gotta agree with Northstream though, I liked Tripper when he first joined; the type of wingback that Walker wasn't; calm, composed, and great crossing ability. But now I get the same annoyance watching him play as I did when we had Naughton as LB. He has spent 3 years at Spurs now, and against Barnsley was the only time I've seen Tripper attempt a take on, let alone win it and set up a goal.
It doesn't help of course that we play a back 5 system which involves attacking wingbacks and if you average 0.7 take on's per game you are going to be a pretty shoddy one.

Aurier will learn from his sending off, and I felt that Alderweirald could have done more to help him. Vertonghen was a beast and covered Davies brilliantly.

Massive overreaction in regards to Alli's performances as well. He's still being a nuisance in the team and putting in the hard graft - just because he isn't reaching the heights of last season is not a reason to drop him. It was almost every game last season where I would see him lose the ball constantly; take wayward shots; bad touches and fouling players out of frustration then all of a sudden he'd still bang in a goal. He's not been at his best at the moment, and that may be due to his new role like North pointed out.

Kane will want to keep up his good form and have a game against Apoel. Neither Poch or Kane will want to miss having the strongest XI for this game to secure it. Llorente can take over once Kane gets a few more CL goals under his belt.
thanks for the scores and opinion mate. nice read.
Cheers for the reply lads, great to see the regulars back :)

I see what you're both saying about Trippier, but his benefit is that he nearly always provides an assist a game (or at least provides crosses that someone should score from).

I think that in the games when we need to use the width to break teams down, Trippier is our best option. Bigger games, Aurier is definitely number 1.

I don't think it is an overreaction with Dele. He has been appalling so far. I've watched him in the last few matches very closely and he provides nowhere near what Son does (I'm just talking about this season). Dele isn't untouchable
Trippier's crosses are overrated and more so, against a half decent team he isn't capable of beating a man, to get himself in position to do any crosses. It's all backpasses, and then every time he starts directing how he thinks his teammates should play forward. But worst of all is his lacklustre defending.
Sánchez is pretty damn solid. You guys might just have 3 of the best 5 central defenders in England.
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A little too early to say. I think with David Luiz and Kompany, Vertonghen and Alde are the best in England; recently Vertonghen has actually surpassed Aldeweireld and is in the best form of his life.

For a 21 year old, Sanchez is amazing. Expect him to be the best before long
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Yeah, it is too early to say, and I said that right before you guys conceded 2 goal :D

But he's a pretty great prospect. Just read his idol is Franco Baresi, which probably impressed me more than his actual skill as a defender, haha.
+1
Agreed mate, I have no doubt of his quality. The fact that Poch has trusted him against Dortmund and West Ham shows that he probably has known about his quality for a long time, and that he's been impressing in training.

With Aldeweireld likely to leave if we don't win anything by the end of next season and Vertonghen approaching 31, it is essential that both Foyth and Sanchez mature quickly and squeeze as much defending knowledge from our Belgian pair as possible in the next couple of seasons.
Team today:

--------------------------Lloris----------------------------
-----Alde----------------Sanchez-------------------Vert--
--------------------------Dier----------------------------
-Aurier-------------------Sissoko------------------Davies-
--------------Eriksen-----------------Dele----------------
--------------------------Kane-----------------------------



COYS!!!!!!
http://www.squawka.com/news/erik-lamela-the-big-game-player-spurs-need-for-a-serious-title-challenge/991934#4XwTPhWGeP487Jcf.97

We just need to stay close to the top until Lamela, Wa nyama andRose are back. Such important players to the way we play. With them, this team can achieve anything. COYS!
AANP on the glorious leader vs Swansea...

Spurs 0-0 Swansea: Four Lilywhite Observations

1. Sideways

So following the triumphant, mature and slightly lucky Champions League victory midweek, the shiny new tactic unveiled today seemed, if anything, to be to bore the opposition into submission. The sideways passes and keep-ball one understands to an extent, for there was little point in flinging hands heavenwards and lobbing passes straight down opposition gullets. But the fervent, unfailing desire to take three or four touches, pause to contemplate the mysteries of life, swivel and pass backwards was as excruciating to watch as it was ineffectual to pursue. It was as if they had decided en masse to pay homage to all that was most frustrating about Jermaine Jenas back in that halcyon era.

Moreover, it seemed that poor old Kieran Trippier was persona non grata in that first half. Quite what he did in midweek to upset his chums is beyond me, but for around the first half hour they only seemed willing to pass to him once hell had frozen over and all other alternatives exhausted.

Urgency at least increased in the second half, and but for the grace of the Almighty we might have had 2 or 3 (it is not generally the policy around these parts to comment on refereeing calls – the old beans make their calls as honestly as the rest of us), but a good few jugfuls of damage were done in that ponderous opening 45.

2. Son

Son will presumably be stroking the chin with a raised eyebrow and a pensive demeanour as he swills the evening whisky. Having delivered a peach of a performance in the guise of Second Striker on Wednesday – including the most Son-esque goal imaginable – the unfortunate young thing found himself square pegged into the cursed left wing-back berth vs Swansea, as the Brains Trust started to get a little carried away with things.

Pre-match I suppose the rationale was understandable. Son at wing-back vs Chelsea is an accident waiting to happen, but at home to a Swansea team erring a mile or so on the side of caution the risk seemed somewhat diminished. And in truth there was precious little defending required of the chap, particularly with Vertonghen behind him. Moreover, given that his Wednesday night goal gestated on the left wing, one again eyeballs the pre-match rationale, and at least understands, if not necessarily heartily endorsing.

As it transpired, however, the plan was utterly rotten, and while Ben Davies peered on from the snug seats, the left wing-back vicinity proved quite the headache.

3 Ever Increasing Levels of Tactical Bedlam

As things wore on, the already convoluted plan was twisted into increasingly unrecognisable form, and alarm bells gonged away like there was no tomorrow. Our Glorious Leader’s every tactical move began to resemble a bleary-eyed AANP desperately trying to wring success out of a Football Manager shambles in the wee small hours of his University days, with plans being ripped up and replaced with something even more outlandish every 5 minutes or so.
Moving the flailing giraffe that is Sissoko to right wing-back, and shoving Trippier out to left-wing back – while Ben Davies peered on from the snug seats – was certainly rather unconventional, but the point of the exercise seemed to be to thrust Son slap-bang into the centre of things.

And credit where due, Son has the size 8s quick enough to make himself a nuisance and conjure up a little magic. Trippier was fairly neutered on the left, and Sissoko fairly ineffective on the right – but at least Son was making a fist of things in attack.

Still no goal, mind, so Pochettino dipped further into his box marked “Curiouser and Curiouser”. In desperate need of a goal, and with Dembele and Llorente available – and Ben Davies peering on from the snug seats – a second right-back was thrown on. AANP automatically reached for the nearest whisky.

And then, with four centre-backs still in residence, and a right-back still at left-back – while Ben Davies peered on from the snug seats – Son was removed. AANP’s head began to throb.

Easy to mock from the comfort of AANP Towers of course, and we did come within a gnat’s wing of scoring one way or another, but le grand fromage has to live and die by these calls, and the decisions not to include Davies, nor involve Dembele at any point, seemed dashed peculiar with each passing minute.

4. Llorente

A glass was raised on deadline day when Senor Llorente was ushered into the fold. A cursory glance was enough to reveal that numerous boxes were ticked by the arrival of a forward with Premiership experience, a clutch of medals, of decent height and strength, and relatively content to peer on from the buffers as Master Kane peddles his wares. On top of which, Llorente allows for the introduction of a conventional Plan B, should we desperately need a goal in the dying embers of a game.

So, cometh the hour and whatnot. With 15 or so remaining, Llorente entered the fray.

And was dutifully ignored by just about everyone in lilywhite.

What the devil is the point in introducing a robust, burly sort into the attack if there is no inclination to loft him one or two via the aerial route and give the opposition a new point to consider? Heaven knows. I think by that stage the tactical instruction was “Every man for himself”, because nothing seemed to make sense and it all made me want to find the nearest wall and bang my head against it.

Such is life. Wembley or not – and the greater expanses of land do seem to impinge a dash upon the whole high-press routine – this is not the first time our heroes have entered into something of a to-do if they fail to score early. On this occasion, however, the AANP finger of blame jabs squarely towards team selection, and our glorious leader.
+4
Great read
Fantastic as always bud
Hey guys. Been an incredibly long time since I posted here. The reason being that some of us have shifted to a chat app called LINE. So far, there are 5 of us on there and we tend to have a chat during the off time from time to time, and catch up during the game to drool over Eriksen's passing this season.

If anyone wants to join, please do. It is a free app, and can be used on the phone or the desktop (needs atleast one login to the phone the first time). Just add my user ID "magnusten" (without the quotes), or post your ID on here and I'll invite you to the group. Great to see some of the regulars still on here, and even if you don't join in, keep up the good work :) COYS!
+5
Well hello there...... :p
+1
Hey Mag! Been a long time bro!

Would be good to join you guys for the West Ham match on Saturday on Line. Maybe have a few disagreements on here afterwards ;)
Here's my player ratings:

Lloris: 8 - Distribution was very good and his interception to deny Aubameyang and his save before we made it 3 were so so crucial.

Aurier: 9 - This guy looks unreal. His passing was phenomenal, despite knowing very little about the movements of his team-mates. Kept Pulisic quiet for most of the game and pressed cleverly.

Aldeweireld: 10 - Despite Kane's goals he was my man of the match. He did the same against Dortmund last time we played them, making some crucial interceptions. Best defender we've had since Ledley.

Sanchez: 8 - In such a high calibre game, and against such opposition, I think he had a great game. Despite one mistake when he tried to overplay it, he was part of the defence that offered Dortmund hardly any spaces to exploit.

Vertonghen: 9 - I swear this guy has gone up a level recently. His pace and positioning is unbelievable and he was the sole reason that Dortmund didn't score two clear chances.

Davies: 8 - Really proud of Davies last night. He stepped up to the plate, despite a lot of unfair criticism from Spurs fans, and made sure Yarmolenko didn't have the room to run at our defence. Remember he's still only 24!

Dier: 7 - I'm never 100% sure about Eric. He doesn't seem to have anywhere near the same energy as Wanyama and often leaves massive gaps when he surges forward. It just seems a shame when he goes past Dembele when I think it should be the other way round. Anyway, played a big part in the result and should be commended.

Dembele: 7 - Nowhere near the level that we normally see of him, but never stopped running. Him and Dier had a very restrained role against Dortmund, and I'll have to watch the match again, but I think it was to cut off the passing lines in the middle of the pitch. Well done Moose!

Son: 9 - Scored a sublime goal within 5 minutes and after that was so so disciplined. Could have scored a couple of chances but his energy was ridiculous. Came off and looked absolutely shattered. Stepped in for Dele admirably and if he keeps it up, he'll be ahead of Dele on the team-sheet.

Eriksen: 8 - When we had the ball, he used it very well. When we didn't he was sprinting all over the place, harrying Dortmund like a man possessed. He's undoubtedly the fittest part of out team.

Kane: 10 - two fantastic goals, the first of which was even better than the solo goal he scored against Southampton. He held up the ball so well to relieve pressure and did anyone see the amount of defensive headers he made?! We are so lucky to have this legend in our team! ONE OF OUR OWN!

Poch: 10 - Magic from our main man. Adjusted his tactics to predict what Dortmund were looking to do. Dortmund knew with their pace and the passing of Kagawa, they could beat our press and feed Pulisic and Aubameyang in behind our defence. Poch therefore ordered us to, once we got the lead, sit back and catch Dortmund on the counter. He trusted Davies and Aurier to protect the flanks and ordered Dier and Dembele to be disciplined and cut off the passing lanes that Dortmund were looking to exploit. Have a look at this article from 'Fear The Wall' about what Dortmund were looking to do, and then Poch's plan looks genius.

https://www.fearthewall.com/2017/9/13/16296924/opposition-analysis-borussia-dortmund-vs-tottenham-hotspur

COYS!
+5
Massive team effort and I think I pretty much agree with your ratings. Going to watch it again sometime this weekend.
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Totally agree with these ratings. Ref was poor for both sides but I think the mistakes evened out in the end. Dortmund will feel hard done by because they lost but really we were the better team on the day and far more clinical. If we can get anything at all in our games against Real, we have a good shout if actually surviving the group.
Kane's 103 goals - opposition breakdown:

9 Leicester
6 Arsenal, Bournemouth, Stoke, West Brom
5 Hull, Everton, West Ham
4 Asteras Tripolis, Aston Villa, Chelsea, Fulham, Norwich
3 Sunderland, Swansea
2 AEL Limassol, Borussia Dortmund, Crystal Palace, Liverpool, Manchester City, Newcastle, QPR, Southampton, Watford
1 Anderlecht, Besiktas, Brighton, Burnley, CSKA Moscow, FK Qarabag, Manchester United, Middlesbrough, Monaco, Nottingham Forest, Shamrock Rovers

Finally 1 against United last season :P.

Jokes aside, yeah ,great striker.
Kane is now our 3rd best European goal scorer and already 15th on our all-time goal scoring list. He should be in our top ten by the end of the season.
Congrats! Didn't see the game but saw a few of the goals, and what great goals they were. I wish the Liverpool game went that way when the scoreline was 2-1 :(


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