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well they nearly did lose, but the spurs choked lol

Yeah Ray Allen said he wanted to keep playing. Legendary player.

Ray Allen is the only player I like from Miami lol. It was a good game. For some reason the Spurs just stopped playing and left Tony Parker to play by himself and forced him to attempt bad shots.

Game 7 is going to be a great game.

Spurs choked. Couldn't hit foul shots.

^ dgrant: ray allen used to be a legend but he lost it when he joined the heat. He went after glory then respect and honor. He spoiled the game for me today. why the f**k will someone allow greatest 3 pointer that space. The best nba finals game I ever saw in my live. breath taking, exciting it had everything. f**k ginobli for f*****g up at the end. undeserved win for the heat.

Heat are like the Man City of Basketball..recently assembled team with hardly any history of championships...sorry Darren i know you're from Miami ;)

Lucky for me, I don't care much about the Heat, my main focus of support is for United. I'm even one that agrees with most of the calls the refs make against the Heat, I'm as fair-weathered and even level fan you may meet, lol.

They lost a bit of their identity in my eyes. I grew up watching a different kind of Miami Heat. Pat Riley was coaching back then, I still think he's above a lot of the coaches now in the NBA. They have a great team I'm not going to lie, but we built the team around Wade who always keeps pushing in every game.

And how does moving to a team lose a person's status of a legend? That's just pure bitterness in my eyes. Your comment is the reason why I can't stand the entity of the fans of NBA. I also don't believe in neutralism with fans in the sport too. Everyone just sees everything wrong with the Heat. There is so much hate around what the team is doing, no one is gracing their games they play sometimes. I'm not going to lie, they do showboat, gloat and dive, but what team doesn't?

Undeserved win for the Heat? How so? The Spurs gave up their opportunity to kill the game off, in which I thought was over. The Heat deserved their win, stop making up excuses. I admit the Heat was getting fought off, but they made up for it in the end. They capitalized against the Spurs' mistakes.

i'm a fan of lebron and d.wade, so i wont root against them. at worst i'd be neutral in their games.

but in general i always root against the west coast in the nba finals, regardless of who is in the finals, and i always root against the lakers :D

I've never really cared much about LeBron and his story, but it's grown on you now that he's at the Heat and the anti-fans won't stfu about him.

Wouldn't care he left tomorrow to be honest, I mean he's a good player, but I'm not infatuated with him. Don't trust his loyalty either.

I would actually love to see thiago and Anderson together in a midfield 3.

Whenever we play in a midfield 3 with Anderson he usually does a good job since he doesn't have to defend as much so he can focus more on attacking.

Thiago------Anderson
-------Carrick-------

Anderson is one player i hope we keep! Under proper man management he can do wonders

Anderson needs to stay fit, he's almost like a Pato in that sense

i mean the dirty truth is SOMEONE has to be sold. we cant be getting ronnie, strootman and thiago but expect everyone on the squad last season to be happy with less time on the pitch.

eventually giggs will be phased out, that's true..

but we did just buy zaha who will need minutes..

and scholes did retire, which is true..

but between carrick, clev, anderson, (potentially fletch) and potentially strootman and thiago.. isn't that overkill if we're supposed to be attractive because we can guarantee minutes for those guys?

not to mention keeping hernandez happy, and making sure the developing players (jones, welbeck) get enough minutes. and then there's the kagawa situation... something has to give, as tony likes to point out.

Not to mention the wide men. Young, tonyV and nani plus zaha and Ronnie. Only room for so many...

I know i'll get a lot of stick for this but i'd rather see Cleverley go than Anderson

Seeing the work Moyes has done with Gibson, I honestly think he can coax something good out of Anderson and if that happens I'd be a happy man.

Yeah lets give a player who hasn't done anything of noteworthy in his 6 seasons one more chance over a more promising player who showed quality and glimpses of his potential in his first proper season. Sometimes i just cannot figure out the logic of some fans.

Having said that i believe and maintain my original opinion of Ando that he is a late bloomer. If he wants to hang around as a squad player i would be happy with that because if he is able to manage his injury problems he would be a very useful player for us.

You should realize that your 'logic' and opinion is not the be all end all of football.
If you don't agree with mine that's cool but don't always try to sneak in hidden insults like 'i just cannot figure out the logic of some fans'.

Either way, i find Ando to be a better player who suffered from mismanagement and being played out of position.
Cleverley has shown glimpses but is an inferior player to Anderson. If i could keep one, i'd keep Ando.
And its not like i'm saying SELL Cleverley, just that if one had to go i know who my pick would be

If I had to choose who to keep right now on my team out of Cleverley and Anderson then I would have to choose Cleverley since Cleverly is a little bit younger and can play a good amount of games over a season.

Anderson is the better player but I dont think he would be able to play many games over the season without injury and usually when Anderson returns it takes him a good amount of games to get back inform.

i'd keep cleverley. it's clear ando has more natural talent but like everyone else said, he cant stay fit for 90 minutes, talk less of a whole season. also cleverley's an academy product so i'm rooting for his since he's been at the club for ~ a decade already. i like ando but how many chances should he get before time's up? if he can be a squad player and not complain then fine, but if not, i think it's best if he was allowed to leave.

I would keep Cleverley too, so we can keep producing English talent. It's extremely important we give them a chance at the top level, for ours and England's sake.

Cleverley can also come good too. But Ando has been with us for 6 years, he's a bit of a weak link and I know he wants to be in Brazil for the WC. He stated that before.

So let me get this right just because you couldn't justify or give a proper reasoning behind your opinion of having Ando over Clevz makes my reasoning and logic the end of all?. I did not slate you for having that opinion but the failure to why that was the case because you yourself acknowledged that you would get a lot of stick for that so knowing that maybe you should had prepared yourself.

And no that remark 'i just cannot figure out the logic of some fans' was in no way meant for an insult, it was merely pointing out as to what logic do people use when making such comments because you sure as hell didn't explain it in your 1st post.

Also lets for a moment put aside the accusation of mismanagement and think about his injury problems and fitness issues. Now why is he the only one in our squad that has hard time lasting more than 60mins. Surely if it was management problem some other players would be suffering the same right?..Hell players 10-15yrs older than him last longer on the pitch and perform at a way higher level on a consistent basis without getting injured frequently.

Him being overweight and not minding his diet cause most of those fitness issues. If you're played out of position you don't suffer from exhaustion but performance levels, but his performance levels for the first 60minS are very good, its the deterioration that comes after it that creates the problem. So starting him pretty much restricts a managers' options in substitutions knowing he'd have sub off Ando in the 60min no matter what.

Do you know Ando in 6 seasons have only completed a full 90min game less than 10 times. Think about that.

Again as i said before i don't mind the quality he brings when fit but that is like 5-6 games a season and even knowing that i'd rather he stayed as a squad player if he wished so and also because i like his personality and his character is very important to our dressing room.

Cleverley over anderson any day. I have rarely seen him have a bad game in central midfield. Anderson on the other hand is very inconsistent. He has the talent but if it was between him and Clevz, id let anderson go. He had 6 years to cement that starting spot.

Thank you sir but we do need Thiago. He is not a starter in Barcelona but in United he would become a crucial midfielder in our line up with the potential to become one of the best!

If I was some Barcelona fans, I'd be worried.

Even if he doesn't come to United, he's not staying at Barcelona.

Lol and i'm really waiting for a moment for Messi to go to jail for tax fraud and say HA! Nothing can stop this slide!

But having said that, i sincerely hope we'd stop getting harassed by everybody and his dog about our transfer targets. Its really annoying

I think it's most likely that he'll stay, for several reasons, and I think in a few years, he could be a crucial player for them. Staying in Spain, playing along the Barca players, which make up for 90% of the Spanish national team, would probably also give him a chance to better develop for the Spanish side.

That said, I hope he doesn't see that and comes to United :P

the entire barca fanbase needs to be on suicide-watch if we land thiago..lol.. same goes for madrid fans and ronnie.

tbh even if we don't land him, it's great that we are being linked with some fan favorites of barca and madrid.. make them sweat a little, s**t their pants a little.. hahaha. it's only fair they get to experience this like everyone else ;P

Last week it was madrid fans invading our forum because of Ronaldo and now barca fans because of Thiago lol.

+1 for that Knife Party dp mate haha

Easy Somere....lol.

Coutinho is amazing no doubt!I enjoy watching his football, he is actually one of the reasons why I started watching Liverpool's highlights to see his partnership with Sturridge.

Whoever said Coutinho wasn't good enough for United clearly knows nothing of football. He's more than good enough for any EPL team.
But considering our scouts have unearthed similarly-priced gems like Obertan and Bebe, who needs Coutinho?

Coutinho is really good to be honest, one of Liverpool's only players I respect. He should really be involved with the national set-up more, he'd be a starter on my team sheet.

Why the sudden love for Coutinho? :P

Did he play today?

I swear if it doesn't happen I'll kill you and Khalid. Slowlyyyy.

^HAHA I can relate.
As much as I like you, Darren, I might do the same :P

Khalid started it.....lol

Put him on a plane, bring him back from Spain! Viva Ronaldo, Viva Ronalo!!

Yeah, his death would be slow, whereas yours will be quick and painless :P

Btw, I'm kidding. Mods, please don't ban me lol

I think Valencia should give up the No. 7 regardless.

Might be TA7 aha

Bebe will get the no.7!

If we get Thiago and Strootman, we'd a have some fantastic options for our midfield. Carrick and Thiago would be the starters in a midfield 2 but against strong opposition or an away european game we can play a 4-3-3 with Carrick Thiago and Strootman. We'd have both steel and creativity there with ability to keep possession. Cleverley can play in a midfield 3 against PL teams for a fast attacking gameplay. There are so many possibilities with those options that we wouldn't be too static in there. Add to that we also have Ando who can be a good squad player if and when needed. If he leaves i wouldn't mind getting Van Ginkle.

As Prophet said options are important.

The club should look to bring two midfielders in this summer so we have a solid four man core of Carrick, Cleverley, Insert Name (hopefully Thiago), Insert Name (hopefully Strootman) to work with.

Each player brings there own dimension and a range of quality's to the table and its important that we have strong competition and diversity for the central midfield something we have had little to no competition in in recent years

I cant see Anderson being here beyond this summer tbh so I wont count him as a part of that for now.

Everyone else like Giggs, Rooney and even Jones should no longer be considered options for central midfield once this transfer window is done and dusted hopefully.

I know there's a lot of buzz about a possible Ronaldo return but honestly if we managed to get Thiago and Strootman in I would be delighted going into the new season.

As long as the central midfield gets addressed then I think we should be good going into the new season... We surely cannot go another summer without at least trying to make something happen in that department.

Yeah any 2 out of those 3 will do the trick.
I'm not sure how realistic it is to expect Ronaldo to resign this summer so i'm holding out for Thiago/Stroot.

Even if none of them do come to United...Giggs, Rooney and Jones should never play in the CM