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Great to see everyone praising Herrera. About a year ago it was impossible trying to convince people that he was quality and a worthy signing.
Only watched the highlights. Just out of interest. Where did young play when he came on? Expected it to be RWB but I assume Rafael played there.

2 goals and 2 assists for everyone's favourite player.
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he played uptop. we didnt have a striker on in the second half. nani and young played cf ahead of kagawa at cam i think.
So..... turns out he was a striker all along haha
Turning Youngy into Robben xD
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Yeah SiF is right. Young played up front.
Kagawa actually played CM. It was Herrera who played as the CAM.
CB cover will be coming in no time. LVG himself even admits it.

http://www.manutd.com/en/Tour-2014/Tour2014News/2014/Jul/louis-van-gaal-short-of-defensive-options.aspx

The Manchester United manager chose a 3-5-2 formation for the Chevrolet Cup fixture and started with Jonny Evans, Chris Smalling and Phil Jones at the back. Youngsters Tyler Blackett and Michael Keane joined captain Fletcher after the break and preserved a clean sheet against the MLS side.

Following the departures of Nemanja Vidic and Rio Ferdinand to Inter Milan and QPR respectively, the centre-back options at the club have been reduced.

"I have no more defenders," explained van Gaal to MUTV. "So I have to pick a player [Fletcher] who can do the job but he is not so suitable for this position."



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Germany 7 - Brazil 1.
Manchester United 7 - LA Galaxy 0.

Manchester United > Germany
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inb4 some guy who can't take a joke comes in and tells you that you're wrong.
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To back up Badge, this is a JOKE people.
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Phew thanks for the clarification. I was starting to get offended at my own post :P
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srsly , u r compring laglaxy 2 brasil ????

learn football first!
Yeah, good job we cleared it up, we don't want to get treated to the old:

OMG MANURE FANS, DEY BEAT L.A GALAXY AND THINK DER BETTAR DAN GERMANY, OMG SO STUPID, TYPICAL SCUM...
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^hahaha For a second I thought I was on the liverpool forum ;)
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While we're at it, Madrid signed the wrong James.

Reece James > James Rodriguez

;)
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does anyone know where i can watch the full match? I missed it yesterday and want to watch it fully
http://livefootballvideo.com/fullmatch/world/club-friendlies/la-galaxy-vs-manchester-united
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UAnCPd19UQE

Here's the first half, with decent quality, link to the second half will be shown in the video aswell. Cheers :)
Football kit or party wear? Spanish side unveils the weirdest jersey of all time

http://www.sportskeeda.com/football/spanish-side-cultural-y-deportiva-leonesa-new-tuxedo-inspired-kit/
Dear God, that's gotta be the worst kit i've ever seen
I'm surprised Warrior didn't come up with that :/
LOL teja! LFC actually had some nice kits under warrior. Your home kit last year was really nice. Granted your away one looked like a TV trying to tune itself in :p
With new formation is that mean nani young zaha januzaj cant get into the system?bcos we need a winger who can attack n defend at same time which suit well valencia.then for no10 kagawa need to compete with mata or januzaj,for striker welbeck need to compete with rooney rvp chica with rvp n rooney as starter,right?
Januzaj can defend,he's good defensively!

and also we will be rotating formations imo
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@Karthik24
There's no way Januzaj can or will play as a wing back. He is not that good defensively. He will operate either as the number 10 or on the wing if LVG decides to play 4-3-3.
He could play up top in the 3-4-1-2 anyway.

The forward positions are not rudimentary in a total football system, look at Robben at the WC, he technically played up front in this system next to RVP with Sneijder behind them but did Robben behave like an out and out striker? No he didn't, he roamed if anything and played his natural game drifting in from the channels.

People are being too narrow minded about this system, under LVG we will see a lot more free form football rather than the horrible fixed positional shite with barely any movement that we saw under Gollum.
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and there's no way that we are just going to play with one formation. LVG will definitely change things around depending on who we play. Thats for sure. World Cup is the perfect example. I like that about him. Unlike Moyes, who just stuck with the same set of players and formation week in week out. Cant wait to see the boiis in action more. Exciting times.
and there's no way that we are just going to play with one formation. LVG will definitely change things around depending on who we play. Thats for sure. World Cup is the perfect example. I like that about him. Unlike Moyes, who just stuck with the same set of players and formation week in week out. Cant wait to see the boiis in action more. Exciting times.
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as I said we will rotating our formation.That means there are several other formation in which we can accomodate our players
Okay, I know it's the LA Galaxy, but....

"Ander Herrera claimed 3 assists in Man United's 7-0 win. More than Carrick, Fellaini, Cleverley, Young and Fletcher combined last season."
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It was his pass that split the defence for R.James first GOAL even though it was technically Youngs assist.
Who needs Fabregas or Alcantara, we have Ander Herrera!
I agree, but common the guy's passing, skills, accuracy, vision etc are just sick.

That's his first game and looks like he has been playing for us for 10 years.
Too early for that mate.

Let's see how he performs Against the likes of Roma,Inter Milan,Real Madrid.
he has nothing to prove imo, he's played well against us, madrid, barca etc before. he's turning 25 soon, plenty of experience. he's a different player to those two but a good one in his own right.
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@theatreofdream Fellaini debut wasn't bad,but wasn't good either.
torres had nothing to prove before moving to chelsea

fellaini debut with man utd wasn't bad at all

i'd say, lets keep track of his development, the more expectation we have on him, the more burden he'll have...
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theatre mata had nothing to prove before joining us. torres was already crap when he left liverpool due to his injuries. i don't understand what that has to do with herrera? he's a good player already, not some obscure 20 year old talent. i just think it's a bit insulting to say he's not proven yet when he's been playing in europe and la liga for years now and playing well. no one's saying he's a world beater or anything just yet but he's definitely a good footballer imo, so long as he's playing in his proper position i suppse. didn't expect him to be this good so early but maybe i was just being naive.
Just watched the game, I know it was just a pre-season game and it wasn't the best opposition but that's a great start.

Herrera is pure silk, was at the heart of everything the team did well. Going to be a great player for us, will really reinvent our midfield.

If we can get Vidal next to him with Mata playing just ahead of them then we've got a sick midfield.

Interesting that LVG appears committed to the 3-4-3 going off his post match comments, we've definitely got the players to make it work and it would get the best out of our big attacking trio of Mata, Rooney and RVP, the rumoured interest in Cuardrado would make perfect sense as well, he likes to play as a right wing back so could slot into the right side perfectly with Shaw on the left.

We will need a couple more CB's though and i would like to see a promotion for M.Keane in that department, i think he is class.
Agree,M keane should get more chance.btw how about shaw performance?which player will be lvg first eleven based on today performance??
MUFC do you have a link for the full match?

EDIT Found one.
with valencia and rafa, i would say cuadrado is overkill though for right wing back when we have other areas with greater need as you said (CB, CM)

also it's difficult for me to see how adnan could start in that system.

but it certainly suits our cam and strikers

also is vidal really the best type player to have in this system next to someone like herrera? i would think you need a more defensive than b-2-b or offensive player.
@SiF

Rafas fitness is not that reliable though and Valencia needs to offer more going forward, Cuadrado would give us a lot of options as well not just as a wing back, i think it would be a great signing should the interest be real.

Januzaj's best position is a 10, he will rotate / compete with Mata his senior and given how flexible our options could be we wont need to play a 3-4-3 every week, also Januzaj could potentially start up top like Robben did in this system and just drift around and do what he likes, the front three in this system is free form really.

I think Vidal would be perfect, Herrera is also b-2-b, they're both very complete midfield players capable of supporting both defensively and offensively. Vidals defensive attributes are arguably his strongest area too.

Its also worth noting SiF that Vidal has spent the last few years playing in a 3 at the back formation at Juve to great success, albeit a little different from LVG's shape but he knows his responsibility's in midfield in such a shape, he makes perfect sense for me.

One can sit while the other attacks, its all about fluidity in a total football system, the wingbacks could also sit back at times to allow one of the three CB's to push up and double up as a defensive midfielder, someone like Jones freeing Herrera up to go forward and not leaving our other central midfield player exposed.
I agree with SIF. I think a CDM would be or is priority. Not to say Vidal isn't a welcome addition, of course ;)

I also don't expect us to play 3-4-1-2 every match. I think we could possibility see this formation and a LVG variation of the 4-3-3 throughout the season, giving room to the likes of Januzaj out wide.

Although, that said: Young and Nani slotted in fine in the second half, and I don't see why Januzaj couldn't as well.
@MUFC1990
Is Cuadrado really worth €40M???
If we are going to play this system we definitely need a CB(maybe two). But Michael Keane should be given a chance.
Yeah the more I think about it the more I feel we have to make some big changes to suit a new formation. With that 3-5-2 system wingbacks are preferred over wingers and we need more CBs and a cdm.with 4-3-3 we can't play with more than 1 striker. Great tactical challenge ahead of us.

Edit: @ mufc. Kagawa would be competing for cam there too but I agree adnan is a future 10

Juve had a different midfield shape with pirlo as the playmaker in cdm and pogba Vidal as b2b combative mids. In the system we played with a cam, having two b2b is unbalanced IMO. Vidal can be cdm but I think that restricts his goal scoring quality. A player like strootman or carrick who is suited for a holding role makes more sense to me.
@Nic17

No i don't think he is worth that, but its not really about what a player is worth its what a club are willing to pay for him. I just think he would really suit this system.
@MUFC1990
I don't watch Serie A a whole lot. And I didn't see all of Columbia's games at the WC. I did watch the Brazil game and I wasn't impressed at all. He had a very poor game. Might just have been one of those days(Columbia as a team failed in that game).
I would have been much happier if he could play at the left wing back position as we might need a little bit of experience in that position now that Evra has left.
cuadrado is good but he's definitely no better than valencia defensively and he's just a little trickier and a better finisher than valencia. i dont think such a huge bid on him makes sense with other areas drastically needing reinforcement.
@SiF

I would agree that Strootman is more suitable as a deep lying midfielder but circumstances are preventing us from signing him right now and we are taking a huge risk depending on him to make a proper recovery for a January move.

If we have even an inkling for Vidal then we absolutely must try for him.

Not sure Kagawa will survive the summer neither mate, I think Mata and Januzaj's stock at the club are much higher than his is.

Also agree that we shouldn't break the bank for Cuardrado, if the fee is reasonable enough then I would like us to sign him though, I disagree that he is just a little trickier though, he is significantly better at beating men than Valencia is.
i thought kagawa did very well yesterday, clearly a lot more comfortable in this system than in one where he is playing wide left.

van gaal rated kagawa when he was in dortmund, i dont think that has changed.


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