Trending now:   Arsenal  •  Chelsea  •  Manchester United  •  Liverpool  •  Tottenham Hotspur  •  Borussia Dortmund  •  Real Madrid  •  Bayern München  •  Everton  •  Barcelona

Manchester United

Teams /  England  / Manchester United 
Manchester United have 45,703 fans
 
 
 
 
 

Latest Manchester United Videos

Sticky Toffees
2 days ago

Latest Manchester United Match Round Up

Last Match
Premiership Sun, 4th Dec 2016
Next Match
Europa League Thu, 8th Dec 2016

Share your thoughts
Comments
Page 1 of 10960
Anybody else heard that video refereeing will be tested at this years FIFA Club world cup? I think this is a good idea and I know some may oppose it. Some argue it will disrupt the flow of the game when in actual fact when a referee makes a poor decision like awarding/not awarding a team a penalty, the players surround the referee for more than 10 seconds to argue the decision and I think during that period the video ref would be able to see the replay and correct the decision.

When fouls and offsides are given we see an instant replay disrupting the flow of the game for a few seconds is no worse than players wasting time when they roll on the floor pretending to be injured and when goalkeepers take their time with goal kicks.
Simply add minutes to additional time. Instant replays will do good for the game. At least everyone will feel more fair.. You still can have bad refereeing, but at least it will be minimized.
+1
^ I agree that video refereeing is overall a good move. However, I'd like to add some nuance to your first statement regarding adding additional minutes. Yes, adding additional minutes will compensate for the lost time due to reviews and such but the damage done to the flow of the game is irreparable. Whatever they come up with needs to ensure judicious use of video refereeing. The last thing I want is NFL-style 12 seconds of play time for 2:30 minutes of timeouts.
I agree with Kiranpmody. I don't even know how people watch NFL. 10 seconds of action, 10 hours of commercials and waiting. Hopefully there is a ref ready to look at the replay and then radio the main ref right away.
It will help FIFA sell more adds!!!!
Simple solution is to allow captains 3 attempts at challenging decisions (in which case the video referee takes over). In case the captain is wrong then they lose one of the 3 attempts. If the captain is correct then they retain the right to attempt again until they finish their chances.

This keeps the game in check with a maximum of 6 wrong interruptions and weeds out the wrong decisions that plague the game currently
lol add commercial breaks for referee video replay xD
@Tomikato Exactly. This is how volleyball is refereed at the moment. But I think instead of the captain the decision to call for a video check should be made from the bench by manager/staff just like volleyball
SIF - That is exactly why i hate America football...no continuity for even 10-15 sec and everytime der is foul you will see lot of movement on the pitch and dugouts...it looks like a mess with more drama and less sports.

We dint have review system in Tennis , Cricket etc as well...basically each team should be given 3 review options per game. If they really want to challenge referee decision captain make a call. If the decision of referee was correct player who was involved in the challenge should be given a yellow card as warning.

That way players and captain will be cautious and think before interrupting the game. Also this way referee decision were luiz fouled Aguero and escaped can be handled
Good to know that Fenerbahce still have something to fight for and won't do a Leicester.
whats up with Morgan Schneiderlin ?
Fellaini bro :P
+3
lol, I mean Scheiderlin was one of the best CDM in PL when he was at Southampton.. Just doesn't make any sense.
+2
He has been a horrible transfer of us. Don't remember many good games from him. Needs to be sold. Huge flop.
^^no. LVG didn't gave him a good run of games. Same for Jose. He is a quality player but they prefered Fellaini ahead of him for i don't know which bullshit reason. The managers didn't trust him to field the defensive role which i think he does really really well.
+1
there's a reason he's not getting a run of games. you have to earn it.
Instead of bringing Fellaini on, Mourinho should do this:

http://img-comment-fun.9cache.com/media/6925c8e1145666365660932525_700wa_0.gif
+2
:D he should start a band with this guy
http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/WengerGuitar.gif

they would totally get along!
+2
lol that Keane video above, so savage to an idiotic question. Sometimes I wonder if he'll become our manager someday. A mad man, but mad in a right way. I still remember the how he ran to Cleverley's home after something happened in Aston Villa training.
Ah, the ever romantics, dreaming of Keane, Giggs or Solskjær as the next United manager...

There's also Steve Bruce.
Haha yea. Seeing Barca having Enrique and Real having Zidane make me feel that its not that far. But its actually very far from reality at the moment. Blanc will be a very nice option, if mou gets sack when we miss out the UCL spot.
I heard that Blanc was dreaming of having the United job after he got sacked by PSG. I really like him. He is a young manager and has won everything with PSG except the CL. I hope we can get him after Jose.
+4
Writing off Jose already? Only half way into the season. This club is starting to turn into the clubs they have made fun of for rotating managers so often. The irony. Give the guy 2 seasons at least.
+4
Are we already talking about the next manager? Cmon guys. Its been what 14 games in the league?
+1
Well, he'll be sacked if he can't get CL for us. The club have to be impartial, or else it won't be fair for Mr. Moyes, the chosen one by SAF. Domestic Cup is not enough to keep the job, see what we did to LVG. Unless we see something so amazing (like winning Europa), which makes missing top 4 not an issue.

For the club's sake, of course I hope we can a romantic turn around to the top 4, wreck all the rivals, squash all the tiny clubs, keep the same manager for a decade.
+3
He won't be sacked if we don't make top4 I think. If they do, that will be another huge blunder to add to the many we have made in recent seasons.
+1
I don't see him getting sacked either. Their isn't going to be a manager that going to wave a magic wand, not even Pep or Conte could muster some magic in their first season at Utd. Pep and Conte had a more solid, put together team to work with at City and Cheslea. Klopp had nearly a full season to assess the team and a summer to get the players he wanted. Utd is kinda scattered in terms of players, you have those that carry the team, those that are for future and those that aren't good enough or shouldn't be anywhere near the first team. The team has also been unlucky with injuries, but I would give Mourinho more than a season. Best case scenario he wins EL and you guys go to UCL next season.
+1
^this!!
Moe66 your point is contradicting what most united fans feel..I have seen fans mentioned that team is already world class and playing very well together. It is unlucky that they dont finish chances and get the results they deserve.

But, I would like to mention few thinks that would have changed with Pep or Klopp as a manager after 1st season at united, but wont change under Jose.

Pep and Klopp would have transformed this team over a season to give identity and style that united fans would love to watch week in week out. Jose on the other hand might win more trophies, but he wont change his style of football or tactics (like drilling players to protect 1-0 lead by sitting back to absorb the pressure from opposition). If your a united fan you would want to believe that he will change to united way...But you guys have no idea how stubborn he is and that stubbornness has won him many trophies.

IMO next season he will go after world class defenders(like Vidic) and DM(Like Kante) ..because his best teams have best defensive capability and that is his trademark. I completely agree that he should get one more full season to prove his worth.
I think he has to get us in CL or he very well could be facing the sack. Right or wrong, I think the Glazers have been clear on their stance on managers: top four or out the door :D.

I do think we'll eventually click and go on a run, but if that doesn't happen and he gets 5 or lower and we don't win europa, I think he's facing the sack.
Points lost due to goals conceded after 80 mins:

#1. Manchester United - 7 Pts

Is it stamina? Or just weak mentality? The problems at the club just keep increasing. I miss fergie time.
+1
lol i thought it was more tbh
More, 7 is already too damn much. That's the difference between being in the title race and being where we are now
+1
Mentality
poor subs - Mou did same with chelsea - with 1-0 lead - sit back and defend even against weaker team. - take off your attacking palyers and give more ball to opposition.
+2
poor in the air

players playing out of position

lack of leadership quality
+1
What do you expect from Mou? Seriously? It's like you never knew he was the master of park the bus. Apparently it's worked out well for him. His players just need to adjust. And like he said, he parks the bus and wins, people say it's boring. He plays attractive and is getting draws, people say he needs to win. You can never please people so it seems.

The lack of leadership is very evident, because the captain is on the bench. Do you want him to start and lead or stay on the bench which one is it?

Yes some players are playing out of position, but Mou inherited this team. Once he can get more players they will look and play more like a Mourinho team but I'm sure those youngsters will be on the bench and then people will complain that he isn't giving the youngsters a chance.

Poor in the air, yes. But I do recall Zlatans first couple of goals for the club all being headers which is surprising as he is not that good of a header of the ball. Or are you talking on the defensive end? Either way, it seems this group of players are not cut out to challenge for the title. Think about this, how many of Uniteds current players could walk onto the teams sitting above them and start?
+1
"More, 7 is already too damn much. That's the difference between being in the title race and being where we are now"

Well duh, we're ranked #1, of course it's too much.

i'm saying I thought it was worse. After 4 straight draws due to losing a goal at the end of the game, I thought it was worse than 7 points lost.
Gotibra The aim of my comment was not to criticise mourinho. i myself a big fan of mourinho for what he has achived barring his misbehaviour on and off the ground.

infact man united has got lot better under him. pogba has started to click. he is forming a good partnership with ibra. fellaini has improved himself defensively as well.
Still can't believe Fellaini had to go and do that. Threw our lead when there was no need. Of all the luck.
stand behind your manager... as soon as we start winning, "I always believed in him."
+1
Stand behind him and criticise when he makes poor decisions like he did against Everton.
+4
I just hope he learns, thats all. As long as that is the case, 1st season is a test season.
I disagree, wasn't a poor decision. it just didn't have the expected outcome. Crosses were coming in from both sides of the pitch, baines and delufeo or w/e, and everton brought on another aerial threat in ener valencia, there's absolutely nothing wrong with bringing in fellaini to help defend that. you're just biased against fellaini and pissed off, that doesnt make your argument sound.
+3
Yeah, he did a similar thing against Leicester in the community shield to see out the game and I didn't see any complaints then.

Fellani let the team and manager down with his recklessness, like a few other players in previous games with their individual mistakes.
I think it is a poor decision. Fellaini is not and will never be a defensive player - he has always been most effective at the other end of the pitch. The season he had with Everton before his United move he was playing just behind the striker for them. That was him at his best. You put him in midfield and you see a guy who can head the ball well but you also see someone who is clumsy and lacks a high footballing IQ.

Also, @SoccerIsFootbal you just mentioned that Everton "brought on another aerial threat in ener valencia" - do you realize that he stands at 5"7. And forget everything else when you have Bailly on the bench surely he can do a job for you if you desperately need an extra man to deal with crosses; or even bloody Bastian Schwienstiger.

Sorry to say but you are just biased towards Mourinho, because you and many other United fans spent the summer talking up your team and your acquisitions of Zlatan and Pogba and co. and your new world class manager. You have to defend him because now you don't have any excuses left.
+16
Sif I'm not just talking about the Fellaini substitution, that whole second half was pathetic how we dropped off and allowed Everton to pile pressure on us. How many times is a manager going to try and defend a 1 goal lead only to concede late.

I remember posting during the game that the second half would make us drop points and that's before the Fellaini substitution. The last 20 minutes werof pathetic how can we defend that?

Yes I'm biased and pissed about Fellaini so I won't pretend to like him but the blame that night was Mourinho not Fellaini, its inexcusable how he gets away with so many poor decisions when if Moyes and van Gaal did the same fans would be slating them.
+3
Bastian to deal with Areal challenges? Lol sure. He would get burned for speed and Mourinho will be slated for bringing a player on with no legs. It's a lose lose situation for Mourinho. People will keep talking till he starts winning.
+3
Gotta look at both sides of the coin, and in that regards, Doc, you're being too harsh. I do agree though that Fellaini is not a defender, so we can't simply say "he let Mou down." If I had asked before the game, is Fellaini a clumsy player, the answer would have been yes, absolutely. So you get what you get, to an extent, when you put him in defense.

My main problem, as Cjay pointed out, is that we keep inviting pressure on ourselves late in the game. Up until the 70th minute, Everton were hardly a threat as far as I remember. We let them back into the game by sitting deep and allowing them to control the ball in wide areas, and same with Arsenal who didn't have a shot on target till their goal. Why, then, are we letting this happen? This isn't the fault of the Fellaini sub in particular, but it is something Mourinho needs to work out, perhaps by going and getting 2 goals before sitting back. We've only been able to do that a few times this season.
+2
Cjays it's easy for you to say we just sat back and defended after we scored, but thats not accurate. We did go forward and try to score the second, the way you are describing the game we just camped down in our box after we scored which is absolutely false, we went forward and had chances to score, most notably herrera strike off the post and a couple of saves. Our attacking play kept breaking down around the box, thats poor play not the coach asking the players to keep losing the ball and making bad decisions. And as a coach, at some point you have to decide between going for another and saving your lead. I think he waited until 85th minute to bring Fellaini on. Naturally, everton are already losing and can afford to throw more attackers on and go for it, and thats what happened. We were ineffective going forward and everton committed more numbers into their own half by the end of the game, also with positive subs (enner valencia, deleoufuo or w/e) to try and get a result, which they did.

footballdoc, does enner have to be a tall player to have an aerial threat? 2 of is 8 career premier league goals are headers, I have watched him play at west ham, he's an aerial threat, he has a huge spring. similar to how chicharito was one of the tiniest players on the pitch but he scored his fair share of headers, and we all remember wayne's turn of form a few years ago when he was scoring with his head, you dont need to be lukaku's height to have an aerial precense, and we all know the crosses were being fired in by everton.

bastien isnt as good defensively as he is going forward, and furthermore, he's not as good in the air as fellaini.

bailly has just returned to the bench from a knee ligament injury, he has not played in several weeks. There's every possibility he's not as ready to play as fellaini, who hasnt had an injury and has been training with the rest of them.

You dare come here and talk about bias, you're one of the more biased fans on this entire damn website. How dare you say i've been talking up mourinho all summer? I am one of the utd supporters who did NOT think mourinho was a good fit for this club, go ask the chelsea supporters. For my money, I kept repeating the one redeeming quality of hiring mourinho was we know he buys top players, and we needed top quality. I am aware of his flaws and the baggage and all the nonsense that comes with his tenure, but as long as he's united manager I will give him his fair chance and "unbiased" fans like you, who come in making unbalanced arguments and throwing accusations need to be checked.
+7
I disagree. I don't think United were "inviting" the pressure I think Everton turned the pressure on for the last 20 minutes with tactical changes hence why Mourinho had to make his own tactical changes to counter that.
http://www.squawka.com/comparison-matrix#premier_league/2015/2016/enner_valencia/641/165/11576/49/p|premier_league/2015/2016/romelu_lukaku/641/165/897/34/p#aerial_duels_won_%#avg

comparison of lukaku and enner valencia in the air. Lukaku's much taller but valencia's stats are comparable. he's only played 87 minutes this season, otherwise I would compare this season's stats.
Dat last paragraph tho.... zing.
lol sif that also goes to show how bad lukuaku is in the air despite being so tall and strong:P though i understand where you are coming from:)


cjaystaks you even went on to say that i had posted a fake stats just to prove my point but when i gave you the actual link you kind of ran away lol
See this is the problem right there. You are Manchester United. Manchester United! Not Swansea, not Hull, not West Ham, no' you are Manchester United. If you are seriously trying to tell me you needed to bring on Fellaini to deal with Enner Valencia, who has only 2 headed goals in over 50 premier league games then I have no idea who you are trying to kid.

Bastian isn't good defensively? Really? Really? Last season he averaged more tackles, more interceptions, more blocks, more passes, better pass accuracy than Fellaini, not to mention he is vastly experienced and the type of player you want to have when closing out a game. Furthermore, Enner Valencia wins 0.7 aerial duels per game; Bastian who isn't good in the air according to you averaged 1.3 last season. And it isn't just about statistics - it's about experience and poise and guile and all of those things.

And listen I remember many fans on here pre season saying Mourinho would have to conform to "the United way" - clearly that has not happened. Didn't you want LVG out because he played boring football? Yet you are perfectly okay with sitting back against Everton and hanging on for your life when they bring on the huge threat of Enner Valencia - a player by the way that West Ham couldn't get rid of quick enough in the summer; and that from a team that is in the bottom 5 now.
+15
FootballDoc your research on bastian defensive stats is Spot on! This proves he is better than fellaini but most importantly He is out of match practice. so bringing fellaini in was probably his most suitable option.
+1
Well obviously it's not just Enner Valencia, Lukaku is the main threat, Enner becomes another threat who is decent in the air. Either way you want to spin it, I think it's obvious why Mou thought bringing on a tall header of the ball would help us in that situation given how Everton play. OK Enner isn't Andy Carroll in the air, fair enough, no one was claiming that in the first place, but he is a threat and Mou knew how Everton were going to play. Again, the crosses were coming in, and Fellaini was a tactical move to stem that threat, but obviously that backfired in a different way. Ps look at the aeriel duels per 90 minutes, the guy has had injury problems. Squawka has him at just over 2 aerials duel wins per 90 minutes last season.

"Bastien isn't as good defensively as he is going forward, and furthermore, he's not as good in the air as Fellaini." Is what I said, you wasted an entire paragraph. I don't need to explain any further but just in case, Fellaini is better in the air than Bastien, and the threat was coming from the air. It's simple, lets not complicate things by going over all of Bastiens strengths and weaknesses.

Sitting back and hanging on for on for our lives? We were in control of probably 75% of that match, everton didnt have any foothold in the game until the end when they threw on fresh attackers, thats when they started having threat. And yes, maybe the fact that it's a 1-0 lead and we're in bad form adds pressure, but you're making a mole out of a mountain here if you're suggesting we we under the kosh, it was a spell of play at the end of the game when they threw numbers forward. An individual mistake cost us. If herrera or someone else puts in the second, we wouldnt be having this conversation at all, it's a game of fine margins.
What do you mean by you guy controlled the game SIF?

GK mistake cost them a goal and It was a 50-50 game. infact Everton have better attacking stats by end of the game to show for it. just like individuals mistake cost you guys, an individual mistake by GK cost Everton as well.

Every football game is a game of margins...if you talk about "IF's" Everton will feel they could have converted atleast 2 out of 6 shots on target. If city took there chances Chelsea would have lost 2-0 instead of winning 1-3 maybe?

Joyemac was spot-on....Hanging-on to 1 goal lead itself is a mistake and it has cost you guys before as well.

Everton dint start attacking after 85min..Infact all attacking subs they made were around 65min. So he had option to either introduce pace and hit them on counter to extend the lead

OR

Hang on to the lead and make sub at 85min with an intent to secure 1-0 win.

I dont think Fellaini sub was a mistake.. The real mistake was waiting till 85min to make subs (Infact he dint use all 3 subs). If he had introduced pace and some creativity after 70 min and killed the game this discussion would not be happening.

Also, you guys actually dont have players to shut the gates and hang-on to 1-0 leads...he had great options at Chelsea and Inter to do that
+10
Lol he twisted the argument to state we brought on Fellaini to stop Valencia. Now that is a classic strawman argument. You make up a straw man to destroy it. Who are you kidding?

Fellaini tried to stand behind his manager. Just to stab him at the back.

IQ is sometimes way more important than physical in defense, especially in crucial moments. Lets not talk about Cannavaro and Puyol who are beyond reach. How about Blind last season neutralising tall strikers and Lukaku is just one of them.

Leadership is another thing, to analyse the situations, dish out orders, calm players down. That'll do way more than sending a tall dumbfuck onto the pitch.

I actually never thought of putting in Bastian last minute. But it could certainly work.

Putting the subs aside. I also think we didn't pace ourselves correctly. We have so many tired players down there that 3 subs won't suffice. Mkhi, Martial, Herrera, Carrick, Zlatan. Forget about Darmian, don't know where his old beast stamina went. Only Pogba, Valencia and the two CB have enough energy left to last until the end. On the other hand, Everton still have so much energy left.
Shiwa - For many of your players it was 5th game in gap of 15 days and they even played mid-week against West ham + Everton added 3 fresh legs after 65min where as you guys made 1st sub at 83rd min and used only 2 subs when 3 were available.

Does that explain why you saw tired legs?
+2
Bazinga did you watch the game? I doubt it. We were in control for 75% of the game, Everton were not threatening, all the play was in their defensive half. The goal was a mistake, but we had good chances to score the second and failed. We were not under pressure for maybe 70 minutes, Everton couldn't even build a decent attack until the second half iirc.
SIF- I just watched extended highlights and apart from goal and one shot hitthing the post united really dint create any other serious threat...My point is very simple as i explained above.

Everton made attacking subs at 65min and started to push forward...So united should have added fresh legs to counter them and kill the game rather than waiting for 85min to make 2 subs and hoping to secure the lead.

I completely agree that Fellaini sub wasn't a mistake to be blame on manager...but timing of the sub and not taking initiative to react much earlier was a mistake
+6
Funny how rivals fans even know we're not a team who can defend a 1 goal lead. We don't have the defenders Mourinho had at his previous clubs and we also don't have that dm Mourinho would love to bring on in the final 5 minutes,

Sometimes I think Mourinho is overestimating the defensive abilities of the players we have. At the moment our best form of defence right now will be our attack. If we can work on our finishing we won't have to worry about protection a 1 goal lead. Let's say we play brilliant in the first half against spurs this Sunday like we did at home this season and drop off in the second half? Unless we have a comfortable lead I won't trust United to hold on to a lead.
Watching highlights doesnt always paint the whole picture, thats my point. im not trying to suggest we were dominating everton, but we were not under pressure for the vast majority of the game, right up until about hte 75th minute we were doing just fine, minimal chances from the home side besides the odd deflection or w/e that put miralles in on goal

Well I agree with you that subs could have came earlier, and it's easy to say in hindsight, but even with those everton subs subs, nothing really changed until about the 75th minute, it wasn't an instant reaction from those subs when everton started to create some chances. certainly waiting until the 83rd minute to put on rashford didn't help and imo the fellaini sub should have come sooner to challenge the crosses or whatever. usually players need a few minutes to get up to speed in the game, so with that regard i do feel some sympathy for fellaini even if it was a daft and unnecessary pen.
Yea, it explain that. Saw the same stamina issue with Liverpool against Bournemouth.
https://youtu.be/gERdfiU2CBQ


One of the best moments after SAF era. Even though we lost that game it was amazing. The celebration with the players and staff. Valencia beating Bayern defenders like nothing lol

so as much as i hate mou, the fellaini sub makes sense in context. at the time, lukaku was standing on rojo and dominating him in the air, obviously fellaini was meant to help with that.

the troubling bit of this is that it was a fairly typical performance otherwise during the match. created very little and came unstuck at a bit of pressure.

the sin for me was not playing mata - i think he's been our best player so far this season and when you need to keep the ball and break down a stubborn defence he's your man. not sure why he wasn't even on the bench. he doesn't seem to get injured at all.
+3
Because Martial and Mikhi had to start. no more room for Mata
week in and week out it will be the same s**t. we were pushing for Mkhi to start and he did and lets be honest he was pretty poor. Now we wish Mata had started, Carrick, Martial etc...

Pfff this whole team sucks.
+4
When was Fellaini ever good defensively in the air for United? Most are fooled by his height when most of the time he's losing his aerial duels unless he elbows his opponent.

That's the problem with United these days, we lost good aerial defenders in Vidic and Rio and we thought signing Fellaini will help us defend set pieces. In reality it hasn't, I cant recall him being even good offensively in the air for us like he was at everton.
+2
sure convert Mata to Striker, or bench Pogba or Herrera, sometimes you need to do sacrifices in order to win.

But to be fair we have no big issues in attack or midfield. We have leak in defense. Conceding 1 goal like that every game is unheard of.
whats absolutely baffling is the fact that while tree failed to do his job on a number of occassions, there`s a player who vanished during the last weeks from the squad although he already showed that he is able to do that job even better and even in a number of different positions.
i miss tofu in the squad and cant find a single reason why he is not asked to play more.
+2
we need our messiah
kayteo is spot on! the substitution made perfect sense. in the last min everton were putting crosses in the box and fellaini was an ideal chice to deal them

cjaystack what are you saying?! fellaini has won 74% Ariel duels this season for man united in epl this season. so you cant say he is bad in air.

dom1878 mikhi was not getting any sort of help from valencia who was playing very deep esp in the first half (check out his heat map) and had no one to put in a cross because ibra was playing very deep in respect to his original position so he had no choice but to drift inside to help ibra. the system mourinho used yesterday was not ideal for attacking player like mikhi.
+2
^Honestly people just make stats up depending on their mood or argument lol.
+1
Choosing Fellaini to play in the midfield (or anywhere for that matter) because he is good in the air is like choosing Bravo to play GK because he is good with his feet. You are basically excelling in a minor part of your job while not being that good at the main job. My old boss used to say 'Don't major in minor things'.
+7
he took off mkhi for fellaini, i cant see how that was a bad move considering everton were getting in crosses. fellaini let the boss down, it was clumsy and unnecessary, but im not sure how you fault the logic. it's a common-sense move imo. mkhi wasnt in the game and we needed help defending the crosses. if smalling or bailly were available and ready im sure they would have been subbed in
Not really. It is a valid tactic to counter the presence of Lukaku. Its easy to say after the fact that Fellaini should not have been brought on but there have been some games before where LVG brought on Fellaini to see off the game. I have Wenger bring on Gibbs to play LW on many occasions to see of a game. When it works, people say tacticsl masterclass and when it goes wrong it's called a failure by manager. I will never criticize a manager for trying different things to get or secure a result. It's what they are payed to do. It comes of many times and on some occasions it dosent.
Yaldho mourinho has already brought on smalling into a game late on to defend set pieces and crosses, it's nothing new. fellaini messed up but i don't think you can fault the manager's logic. he even tried an attacking sub with rashford on for martial but that didnt change the game so then he made a sub to protect the lead.
Why were they getting in crosses? Because we sat back and invited their pressure, and could no longer hold the ball. Fellaini surely wasn't going to help that. I get that it's a valid tactic, and it's not all on the manager. But something has to change when this same tactic (as performed by the players) has let us down many weeks in a row. There's got to be another way to add defensive stability than by throwing a tall CAM in front of the back line.
+4
Joey. When is the last time we used this tactic and it back fired?
^ How about 2 weeks back when Rashford was brought on late, found him at LB and owned by Ox for Arsenal's goal? Its the same principle throwing in a player who does not fit at LB.
What is the purpose of bringing in a defensive sub at 87th minute to see off the match with a 1-0 lead? The best team out there must be playing in defence and midfield to secure a draw, not the time to introduce a calamitous subsitute in a position that does not suit him.
The plan is to see out the game you already have gone 87 mins without conceeding, so the defence has so far been ok. By what logic does throwing in some amateur elbowing goon who cannot pick a decent pass as CB/DM make any sense?
Fellaini should not play again.

Bailey was available (on the bench), so was Blind why were they not selected ahead of Fellaini? Man Utd were dealing with crosses OK till upto that point Fellaini came on and this guy cant play with his feet at all.

For all those stats for him Fellaini he cant defend against crosses or headers either see the video of him getting shamed in an aerial duel in his only other contribution apart from giving away that penalty:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY6J7uvbzJg&t=0m28s
+3
Arsenal, as Vaaz said, brought off Mata for Schneiderlin too I believe. Stopping the crosses by not letting the crosses in in the first place sounds better to me. Taking off a winger for a CM does nothing to cut the supply of crosses, it welcomes it. But look, I recognize that you can't have it perfect every way all the time, and I acknowledge that Fellaini let everyone down.
+1
Actually vaaz you make a terrible and great point all at once.

Bringing on rashford to play leftback, are you insane? Is that what you think happened? Rashford was playing LM, we already had a leftback on the pitch in blind, who was nowhere to be found and summarily dropped the next two matches. You cannot blame that goal on rashford, who played the ENTIRE match (was not a sub like you claimed) and was moved to Lm after starting as cf. If rashford wasn't there people would ask why rashford didn't track back. The real question was where was blind?

And perhaps mou bringing on fellaini was due to rojo and Jones getting f****d in the air by Giroud for that goal, did you ever stop to consider that? Neither Jones or Rojo are dominant in the air, I see nothing wrong in bringing more cover if you think that's the main threat. Not sure what blind could have done to help the situation and Bailly hasn't played in 1-2 months, to throw him into a game like that was risk in of itself.
+2
for all his height and "power", fellaini is not the best header of the ball. he wins some aerial duels but its not the dominance you would expect from someone as tall as him.

blind or tofu (although not on the bench) would have been the better choice. the one a powerhouse the other is extremely smart in his positioning and often manages to win duels when you`d think he has no chance.
Optajose stop posting fake stats and quote your source please?
+1
Cjaystacks fake stats? lol sorry mate you are making a fool out of yourself.

okay if you dont believe me here is the quote you asked for

https://www.premierleague.com/players/3604/Marouane-Fellaini/stats?se=54

aerial battles won 35

aerial battles lost 12

that is 74% success rate:P

+2


6 hours ago
Uefa are hopeful that Manchester United’s Europa League game against Zorya Luhansk can go ahead as scheduled on Thursday following concerns regarding the frozen pitch at the Chornomorets Stadium in Odessa
19 hours ago
José Mourinho said pitch for Manchester United’s Europa League group match against Zorya may require a ‘miracle’ to be playable
20 hours ago
José Mourinho and Henrikh Mkhitaryan were in no mood to admit it, yet winning the Europa League may be Manchester United’s best chance of Champions League qualification
Yesterday
Manchester City and Chelsea hunting Celtic’s Karamoko Dembele? | Frank Lampard to join England backroom staff? | West Ham eyeing Marouane Fellaini?
1 day ago
Uefa has played down fears that Manchester United fans could be targeted by local gangs when they are in Odessa for their final Europa League group game on Thursday
2 days ago
Southampton have agreed to sell defender José Fonte in January if they receive a suitable offer after the Portugal international turned down an improved contract
2 days ago
Holders Manchester United will host Championship Reading in the third round of the FA Cup but the remaining non-league clubs missed the chance to be drawn against some of the country’s big names
3 days ago
Liverpool will be hoping Joël Matip gets fit quickly, while David Moyes’s Sunderland begin to look more solid but Burnley have to find some goals from somewhere
3 days ago
A frustrated José Mourinho presided over Manchester United’s sixth draw of the season as Zlatan Ibrahimovic’s goal was cancelled out by a late Leighton Baines penalty for Everton
3 days ago
Henrikh Mkhitaryan had not started a league game for Manchester United in three months but his performance showed he deserves more first-team action
3 days ago
Everton drew 1-1 with Manchester United at Goodison Park thanks to a Leighton Baines penalty in the 89th minute following a foul by Marouane Fellaini
4 days ago
Marouane Fellaini came off the bench to give away a penalty and hand his former club an equaliser in a high-tempo, low-class encounter
5 days ago
José Mourinho has said he always enjoys going to Goodison Park and, with Manchester United looking to break poor Premier League form, Everton need to demonstrate home improvement
5 days ago
José Mourinho admitted it may take longer than he first thought to turn Manchester United into Premier League champions again as he struggles to change the club’s playing philosophy
6 days ago
Former Manchester United goalkeeper Harry Gregg survived the 1958 air disaster that killed eight of his teammates. He says only getting back to training stopped him from going mad
6 days ago
The Manchester United manager needs the fix that only a string of wins can bring and his frustrating team are not a million miles away from finding that rhythm
6 days ago
Alan Pardew is under pressure at Palace, José Mourinho must back his midweek stars and the omens are there for Manchester City to end Chelsea’s winning run
1 week ago
Michael Carrick has expressed his happiness at seeing Bastian Schweinsteiger return to Manchester United’s first team
1 week ago
Virgil van Dijk and Moussa Dembélé to Liverpool? | Marcos Rojo to Bayer Leverkusen? | Darijo Srna to Barcelona?
1 week ago
The Old Trafford captain has missed the chance to break the club’s goalscoring record when his team visit Goodison Park to take on his first club, Everton
Popular on footytube

Premier League Table

Form
PTS
GD
GA
GF
L
D
W
Pl
Pos
34
21
11
32
2
1
11
14
1
31
19
14
33
1
4
9
14
2
30
17
18
35
2
3
9
14
3
30
15
15
30
2
3
9
14
4
27
14
10
24
1
6
7
14
5
21
3
16
19
3
6
5
14
6
20
3
17
20
4
5
5
14
7
20
1
16
17
4
5
5
14
8
19
-3
19
16
5
4
5
14
9
18
-3
22
19
6
3
5
14
10
18
-6
24
18
6
3
5
14
11
17
-2
15
13
5
5
4
14
12
15
-2
15
13
5
6
3
14
13
14
-2
26
24
8
2
4
14
14
14
-11
23
12
8
2
4
14
15
13
-7
24
17
7
4
3
14
16
12
-14
29
15
8
3
3
14
17
11
-10
24
14
9
2
3
14
18
11
-18
29
11
9
2
3
14
19
9
-15
31
16
9
3
2
14
20
C/L  C/L Qualifying  UEFA Cup  Relegation 

UEFA Europa League Table

Form
PTS
GD
GA
GF
L
D
W
Pl
Pos
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
1
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
2
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
3
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
4
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
5
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
6
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
7
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
8
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
9
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
10
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
11
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
12
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
13
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
14
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
15
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
16

UEFA Europa League Table

Form
PTS
GD
GA
GF
L
D
W
Pl
Pos
10
1
6
7
1
1
3
5
1
9
6
4
10
2
0
3
5
2
7
-3
6
3
2
1
2
5
3
2
-4
6
2
3
2
0
5
4

In the Manchester United Forum

1 comments
1 comments
983 comments
251 comments
by yaldho
2 comments

   
Kick4Life - changing lives through football