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Liverpool will take the second spot Saturday night if they win against WHU. I am hoping they will f**k themselves in the arse as always after a great previous game.
Worst case scenario for us: Liverpool win, we lose 0-3 to Chelsea and drop to 4th. 0_o

Very unlikely, but still, we need to realize that we're not yet done with securing CL football next season. Spurs have hit a stride. Liverpool have no other football to worry about besides the CL. Chelsea will find form. We really need to be shooting for 2nd with a trophy.
In other news we finally a official youtube channel
Finally. Hope they improve their production too. Right now MUTV looks like TV from 90's
^ blends in well with the website
took us forever to catchup to modern times and get a twitter, now there's youtube. would be great if we could get free highlights from matches lol.
What's more important??

Try to go all out, playing good attacking football without caring for results,trophies, appreciated and admired by everyone(ala Dortmund in their recent hayday under Klopp) or playing stagnant, boring, defensive football but effective football even though it puts fans to sleep, even if the fans do not get any encouragement whatsoever to wake up 3-4 am in the morning to watch the match as long as the club wins trophies.

I know it's the Jose way, effective way, but is it the right way , the only way?? With so much attacking talents rotting on the bench.

I may sound like a hypocrite, cos I was praising Jose for the well organized win against Huddersfield just couple of days ago as it was a necessary win for us, cos we had 2 losses in 3 games.So I understand the way we played and were set up.But playing every away match,with the same withdrawn approach, regardless of the opponents or the competition, is getting too old. Our opponents know it too well. They just have to kill our counter attacking threats and the whole match we will be producing nothing.Jose just can't outsmart any other tactician anymore. His tactics are way too easy for them to overcome and it's so bloody predictable.
We just need a balance between defense and offense. Something that top team do so well.

I want to enjoy every game and win something at the end. We are getting trophies, but I am hardly enjoying any game.
Why cant u do both?
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I think every manager has to adapt his style of play/tactics to the players he has. Since you guys have better attacking footballers Mou should go for an attacking style of play, not the other way around. We had the same problem when Mou was with us.
I think in a sense, Jose is past it, he is becoming as predictable as Wenger, he's in the game for too long, the game changed and it seems that he has no new tricks. Kinda makes you appreciate even more how amazing SAF was, being in the game for so long and always able to adjust to maintain the highest level possible.
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He hasn't been the same since his time at Real Madrid.
The difference in class between the squad he had at RM and what he has here is obvious.
His Rm side was one of the fastest counter attacking side in the world while at Utd there is no counter attack whatsoever
At RM he had some of the worlds best players at his disposal including a CR7 at the top of his game, world class CM, Full backs etc.
This man utd squad is full of wanabees and dab merchants. Makeshift players are slot into LB and RB even though they work hard they are no where close to being world class. You cant really expect much when your plan for the season involves playing 2 wingers as fullbacks for the entire season
Most of the signings here have been flops or getting there - pogba, lukaku, mkhi etc... the list goes on. None of them are world class despite the huge price stickers on them.
Some of them play well for a game and then go missing for a whole month.

Utd have done a shoddy job with transfers and there is no squad depth whatsoever.
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I'm really hoping that as Bailly gets back into the squad, we open up more through midfield and in attack. Maybe it's wishful thinking, but like many of us here, do you think Jose completely trusts a Smalling/Lindelof/Jones combo at CB? I think Jose trusts Jones to a degree, but Bailly is our best defender by far and having him back might give us more license to open up tactically.

Adding to this, we really need some quality fullbacks. Shaw has looked great but we need more mobility and skill on the ball in that position.

That said, I don't see why we don't just go for it sometimes. The best we've looked this season in attack was at Everton away when we needed a win and let Pogba roam. I know Jose wants us to be solid defensively and then go from there, but it's no coincidence that the way we play as a team generally flows from how Pogba is playing as an individual.

All this said, I'm coming around to the result yesterday; it's a fine result, I just don't like the way we played to get it, and I don't like whatever's going on with Pogba/Jose at the moment.
Why does it have to be one or the other? Because we're playing cautiously, it does not mean we have to play rubbish football when we've been given the ball. I want a good balance, or hell I wouldn't mind outscoring teams like Liverpool does, way more enjoyable to watch. Sadly, we lack the quality, lack team chemistry. Defensively though, we've been solid throughout the season.
Mourinhos tactics has never looked pretty when playing against a decent side especially away from home. No point hoping for him to change now. Its why many didnt want him after SAF.

To add to what Joey saying about our CBs our best CBs last season were Bailly and Rojo who have been absent most of this season. Smalling only plays well when hes paired with someone who can pass, it was one of the main reasons why he was good under LVG because he had Blind. Lindelof is just not ready yet and Jones is too injury prone
Damn what happened to Blind? Can't get any time. I thought he could be an effective DM.
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I just hope that us vs Chelsea at OT in a few days won't be as drab our recent matches.

Was Jose more attacking last season?? We went to Chelsea and were going toe to toe with them despite losing 4-0. I think that defeat onwards, he started to withdraw the team further back and he doesn't want that score to repeat again.
Blind has his strengths, but we are not using them either
So why is De Gea getting such great reviews? Because of that one save from the header before half time? Everything else was pretty much straight forward saves for any GK and here I thought it was something like that Arsenal game. I am disappointed.
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Don't you think that one save is enough given that our attack had nothing? He saved our ass over the years so many times it's ridiculous. He won us 20 points at least single-handedly over the last 3-4 years. We should be praising him no matter what he does. He's the reason we are in top-2 right now. Think about if he didn't save that shot from Sanchez from that match against ars. Liverpoop would be tied with us right now in points or above us.
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because his saves were the only moment of class and inspiration in the 90 minutes as far as utd go. no one else managed to produce any quality whatsoever

ddg also moped up a lindelof howler that could have easily been goal for servilla. ddg was entitled to have a go at lindelof for that
+1
yeah there wasnt much action this game, most of sevilla's efforts were tame. there was that one mistake by smalling which de gea made up and the broken play from a corner which de gea tipped over the bar. that said we need to play a bit more forward thinking at home in the next leg but at home we should be able to beat sevilla, not looking for a draw but a convincing win.
@Yaldho - DDG is getting such great reviews IMO because he delivers these world class moments when it matters most. That header was a goal 9 out of 10 times with anyone else between the sticks.
I still cant wrap my head around the fact that we cant score a goal with so much f****** quality on the pitch.
Its just ridiculous. After watching today's match and noticing the obvious and subtle things, here's what I think:

1. Formation and Player Selection/Positioning:
Mourinho keeps surprising me every now and then with his starting lineup. We've all wondered why Pogba doesn't play in a 3 man midfield where we can extract the best out of him - going forward and creating!
Why keep one of the best attacking players this season - Martial, on the bench for the most part?
Why not try sanchez on the right (he played really well for Barca there) with Martial on the left in a 3 man midefield?
It just seems there are a lot of simple things that we are trying to complicate ourselves.

2. Player Performance
Call me harsh, but apart from Young and McTominay, I think we were generally sloppy, slow, lazy and wasteful with our passing and getting into positions - this is a pattern I've seen develop over the last 1-2 months or so.
We don't seem to have the sense of urgency (apart from big matches like against city, etc.) in pressing, getting into positions or even passing.
There were so many passes today that Matic, Mata, Lukaku didnt complete or attempt at all.
Pogba seemed like he wasn't 100% or even 80% physically on the pitch from the minute he came on, sanchez hugging the ball for too long, getting closed down by 2 or 3 defenders over and over again, etc...

I dont think its just Mourinho or just the players, both are a problem IMO.
I cant believe Rio, Scholes and Lampard saying this is a great result for a team like United. I just cant.
+9
I think Rio and Lampard said its a good result since United can win at home and that is all matters....But Scholes wasn't happy especially with Pogba's performance
+1
Mourinho out
+8
seemed bizarre from the pundits.
matic had a good game. there wasn't a lot of midfield support for our forwards, they seemed a bit isolated.

as per not scoring a goal: we played with a lot of tactical discipline and didnt take many risks going forward in terms of passes for chance creation, i don't think the objective was to score first. i hope that doesn't come back to bite us.

mou did make positive changes at the end to maybe try and nick a goal but still not enough bodies forward to pose serious threat, and they were like for like changes, swapping forwards instead of removing a midfielder for an attacking player. im ok with this, it would have been bad to change the shape and lose a goal at the end for being greedy.

we may have to really pour numbers forward at home though, should be a great second leg.
i always like to see diego simeone man the helm at Utd. after moyes, i was actually hoping Utd get simeone
Man I don't know about this. Pretty disappointing to hardly sniff a goal. A 0-0 away result isn't terrible and may be enough to get us through to the next round--although it puts us in a dire spot if Sevilla get a goal at Old Trafford; does anyone expect us to win 2-1 if we go down 1? And seeing as the likeliest result, 1-1, will put Sevilla through, I was really hoping for an away goal.

Furthermore, hypothetically speaking, is this going to work at the Bernebau or Camp Nou? There's always got to be a bit of luck involved to progress in this tournament, and though I will withhold judgement until after seeing how we play at Old Trafford, I'm just not convinced right now
+4
That young kid who I didn't know till today even existed showed more maturity and determination than his old and matured counterparts. I hope he gets his time here.
+2
He is solid, very good all around
We didn't do jack s**t in the attack. When you keep martial on the bench it just hurts man. Pogba is just s**t right now. It's a miracle we got out of this 0 - 0. If it wasn't for DDG we would be down 2-0 down if not more. Pay the man what he asks for and keep him because he doesn't deserve such s**t coach and team. What the f**k are we doing? If y'all Mou lovers still defend then Y'all f*****g crazy. You don't want man utd to be man utd way. We don't f*****g let a team have 24 shots in the goal and we only have 2...that's not us. I just can't stand this anymore. Even if we knicked a goal and won the game I wouldn't be happy with the performance. We watch sports to be entertained not be bored to death, and that's what exactly this team doing...boring fans.
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Let's see what happens when Sevilla come to Old Trafford.
Seville played better but UTD had the better chance the Lukaku chance in particular, it will be too much for them to get anything at Old Tradford
The Muriel header was the best chance.
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I have not watched all games Sanchez play for united...but today it looked like he was too selfies at times and lost the ball many times because he wanted to do it all by himself.

He is a great player, but it looked like he is trying too hard.
+2
He always plays like that
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+5
Barca had 2. And your point is?
Yes, cause you are of superior intelligence. My bad.
Barcelona played football. This is anything but.
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What was offensive about "1 shot in target" that got removed? Just curious?
+4
You know exactly what you did.

You are not being curious here, rather just a jerk. Don't push your luck
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^Well, it was certainly more offensive than United's attacking play in the match :P
+23
^LOL how dare you Saum, how dare you?
+5
Jesus you guys :D give it a break
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