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Just asking,is it likely for Di Maria to start this Saturday?
I would imagine so.

We really need to get our best players all playing together and building some cohesion, we're desperate for a win to get our season started.

We need to find something on Saturday or we're in trouble.
Even David Moyes made a better start than LVG.
and then what happen?
It's now how you start but it's how you finish that counts.

Besides that, our start has been very poor but it looks like last seasons woes are still a factor in our performances. Though I do feel confident that once we have those key players back, particularly in the defensive areas we're going to improve a lot!

There, here's to optimism!
Okay David Moyes had a better start and we finished at 7th.I know I am just f*****g around,maybe this time we had a bad bad start and finish 1st.You never know.:P
I shall only compare LVG to DM if we finish outside top 5 this season
Even if we finished outside the top 5 you cant compare the two.

Moyes took over the club when we were champions, the mentality was there, his job was to keep the continuity and he failed miserably, Van Gaal has took over a mentally broken team devoid of confidence, his job is to restore the club.

I've got far more understanding, sympathy and patience for the task in front of Van Gaal anyway, it was always going to take a couple of seasons to pick the club back up.
You lot can be a very smart bunch.

What do I say to people posting stuff like this? http://pincaption.com/gallery/download/2486

And what do I say to my slightly nicer friends who don't say that kinda stuff but you can see they're definitely thinkin something insulting about united inside a big-fat-grinning-face...?
Remind them how many premier leagues United have won and how rich your history is. Down but not out, United are a global brand, far too massive to ever be destroyed by a few seasons of hard yakka. This is called transition and it takes time. I'm a non-whining Arsenal fan who knows a thing or two about hard times. Your struggling powerhouse team are still able to spend 60 f*****g mil on a superstar, endure the immature people and just know that you'll be a serious threat again in a few seasons.
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Thumbs up!
I wish every rival was like Zilch.Why can't they just be friendly as well?Form is temporary,history is permanent.
verratti, sterling, el shaarawy, lukaku, lamela, ricardo rodriguez, shaqiri, draxler, pogba, chamberlain, gotze, barkley… these are the top top young payers and they should be the benchmark for our youth system.... but if we look at our young players, we gotta admit... keane brothers, vermijl, tom lawrence, james reece, saidi janko, varela, blackett, etc... they are still way way way below them...

for a club as big as manchester united, this is definitely disappointing…. When's the last time we produced the likes of class 92?

the most promising youth that we have probably only jones, welbeck, james wilson, lingard and powell.. That's about it
Januzaj?
@manuk

of course januzaj... yea, we need to develop more players like him
We bought Jones from Blackburn, Powell from Crew but i get your point. We had Pogba, Januzaj and Morrison in the youth FA cup winning team. We let Pogba go, Morrision had problems and Januzaj will be great for us. You just named the best young players in the world which isnt really a fair comparison either. So its not as bad as you are making it to be.
Varela is actually promising, surprised he didn't get a look in the MK Dons game.
Class 92', El Shaarawy #92. Hinting we should sign him.

I rate him above all others in that list, because he carried a club as big as ACM when he was only 19 years of age.

Both Pogba and Morrison have discipline issues so they had to go. Pique matured at the wrong time when Vidic and Rio played every single game. Rossi got limited behind a star strikers.

Look. It needs luck to nuture players with big bucks involved. That list above, none of them are in or from the same team. It shows how hard it is to raise one youngster, not to mention a class. Class of 92' is a extraordinary case, or a miracle. It may only happen once in a lifetime.
If you notice something, young players rise usually when the club having a downturn/rebuilding stage not often when club wining trophies after trohpies, just look at the Serie A where there lot of youngster rising and there lot of teams in that league is rebuilding
@yaldho

well if you want to be a world class team, you can only benchmark yourself with world class players...
Watched some clips of Di Maria. Yes YouTube can make Obertan a Messi but this guy is amazing.
actually, liverpool is just as much injured as us

http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php
Where is Rafael? is he there? Alos Rojo also like a injury. so it is like 9 I suppose.

De Gea

Rafael Jones Rojo Shaw
Carrick Herera Di Maria
Mata RVP Rooney

Basically 5 players out of our starting 11. I dont think other clubs facing this kind of situation.
I swear we have 8 players injured. Enrique isn't on the list...
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FORMER Old Trafford legend Edwin van der Sar has been spotted arriving at Manchester United's training facility in Carrington to thrash-out a deal for Ajax star Daley Blind. He is a board member at Ajax.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/503584/Edwin-van-der-Sar-drops-HUGE-hint-that-Daley-Blind-will-join-Manchester-United-soon
Angel Di Maria First Interview As A Man United Player 2014


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfdbsKwHWt0

BEWARE: Terrible INTERPRETER**.
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FYI
Translator ~ written language
Interpreter ~ oral language
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@Alfrodo that's what I get for judging others. haha

Anyway, I still stand by my original comment.

Cheers!
lol
Alfrodo +1 :D
Granted the players let us down today but they are not the only ones at fault. A good manager needs to adapt the system to the players at his disposal. Before anyone put words in my mouth I'm not questioning the aptitude of LVG. Actually he was the one who said that.

But in today's game where he wants to play with youth and reserves and seeing at half time that they clearly struggle with the new system he should have switched to a more familiar one, just like the swansea game.
Moyes got the stick cuz he keeps playing 4-4-1-1 even though we struggled. LVG deserves the same critics here.

I understand the need of assessing players but you do that in training. It's as if he does not care about the result which is not the right mentality to pass on to the players.

From the start he also made the wrong choices for the bench. No first teamer in there bare Januzaj so no one can save his ass if things go wrong and it did. SAF would have at least a couple in there just in case. Definitely carelessness or overconfidence.

The stick where it's due.
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He deserves stick but there were too many careless mistakes from the defenders. Doesn't matter if it is 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 or 352, the careless mistakes from that back 3 cost us. I don't think a different tactical system would guarantee Evans or Keane doesn't make stupid mistakes. We were so sloppy in passing you have to wonder wtf these players are doing in training, this is becoming an alarming theme that they can't make simple 5 yard passes to their teammates. So disappointing.
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The fact that these are young players who have grown up with a certain system and now you change it completely would of course throw them off. The positioning is different so how and when to attack or defend is different. Couples with weak nerves, lack of experience and lack of a real leader it can led to those careless mistakes.
Granted the system is not 100% at fault but neither are the players. LVG should have found the balance between the two because that's his job.
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@SIF in a 4 at the back system with 3 or 4 men in midfield the def simply has more options to pass and play in smaller, more central triangles before the ball is moved out wide in the opponent's half.
in a 3 at the back the def has less options in midfield to pass to and if they pass out wide and the wingbacks got pressed and panic, the ball has to come back which is why we see DG ping so many long balls today.
also with 3 at the back the distance between def is higher so that also increases the chance of sloppy passes
evans should have just cleared the ball, dont talk to me about having more passing options, all 5 plus de gea were back on that sequence
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yah he was pretty dumb there but I was saying in general, oh well
I missed the game, sound like the same mistake that happen at Swansea and Sunderland game, with careless mistake from the young defense especially Evans he no longer young anymore lol
That last Afobe goal was the softest I've seen from Jonny...
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agreed even if this smells like troll
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