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Watching some old Giggs videos. what a player he was. the best player to have graced the premier league.
Before anyone come and say gerrard or henry or any bullshit like that, the premier league has it on record that giggs is the best player to have played in the league.
PS liverpool fans just to remind you that gerrard is s**t, he didnt even make the short list for best premier league player ever smh... Scholes did tho so did roy keane and patrick vieira.
You can make an argument for the other two but Roy Keane.. come on mate

If Stevie wasn't surrounded by mediocre talent half of his career we'd all be singing a different tune
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Lol was this whole post made out of hate againts liverpool fans? Cmon mate, no one is saying giggs wasn't the best player of his era... Mabey even the best the premier league will ever see. But don't refer to Gerrard and Henry as 'bullshit' lmao. And going back to the original debate, this could go on forever. Who knows what Gerrard could have achieved in a team as good as Uniteds in that era, and becouse this is the United Forum and I can imagine the response I will get if I did say so... I'm just going to be quiet and let you all troll the s**t outta me =p
Now Martial has apparently unfollowed the club on Twitter. Seriously? Lol
He re-followed :)

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/anthony-martial-man-utd-shirt-11660472
11 is special to United fans more than 9. He should be grateful.
Media blowing things out of proportion. He was probably not very happy he lost the number but its not a big issue.
It is his mistake he made his personal brand as AM9. Did he consult with the club before that? That should be the question.

Also, Zlatan 'chose the #9'. So regardless of what anyone else thinks or does, things couldn't have ended any differently. lol
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Big whoop
It's not like Zlatan is going to be here for 5 years or anything. Be patient!
This Pogba and United Transfer thing seem like FIFA video game where you squeeze every penny out of the buyer for player.
Yea, I remember The biggest transfer I managed to sell in FIFA16 was a young OVR 87 Serbian CM (Marko Bakic, I heard its growth is glitched) I signed on free transfer. Dortmund came to me for market value 80mil, but because of good form, I asked for 100mil and it went through. That sound exactly like Pogba's transfer.

Buy players at age 19-22, sign on free transfers from 23-27. Sell them in 2-3 years time, buy new ones, or promote youths. Thats what I usually do, unless I screw up somehow and I need to panic buy :P

Anyway, I would never go after him for that price, I'll simply back down and look for alternatives.
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Veratti is a more than decent alternative that Man Utd should look at...
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How much would he cost? PSG will do the same to us and would he want to join us with with no champions league?
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I dont think theres a big chance of 2 players from psg moving to united in the same window.
But veratti would be great.i still have this tiny little hopes that mourinho is actually after kroos if pogba's not coming.not gonna happen but one can dream
Since our pursuit of Pogba well published everyone will try to squeeze everything from us. Even for Milner we will have to pay 50m. Ah I forgot both Milner and pogba are in same class so Milner is 100m.
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Verratti would cost the same lol
Utd vs City game has been called off because of the state of the pitch according to skysports.
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2016/Jul/manchester-united-tour-2016-match-called-off-against-manchester-city-in-beijing.aspx
I heard the city got flooded by the heaviest rainstorm they have seen in 60 years. There's no way they can fix the pitch in just days. Have to save pep vs mou for PL.
I saw pics of the pitch on twitter it's awful, even a Sunday league pitch is better.
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That was a clear sign from the gods: They are angry and demand a sacrifice.
Human sacrifice or an animal?if human please trump or fellaini
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I was gonna suggest Mino Raiola
not a bad idea, but as long as mourinho is here, better not. they seem to know each other well, which can only benefit our club for the next years.
So what do you guys want to see tmmrw? Looks like the pitch is in horrible conditions so i would like to see the squad players get a run out. Maybe give the starting ones 10 or so minutes. Wouldn't care if we got beat as long as we dont pick up any injuries.
Not a good idea to play IMO. We don't want injuries to start even before the EPL does
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yes, i heard it might be called of. Best option imo.
Some of you are still in favor of these "commercial" friendlies in China? And they can't fix a pitch in time for Man Utd to play. Sheer madness, Mou says "his only objective is to get his players back home safely". Mou being as diplomatic as he could without setting off alarms, also said it is only good for the fans and the commercial side of the club.
And watch the City presser, Pep was about to explode in the heat He looked shell shocked.

Bit sad for the players and club staff, this a complete waste of a good pre-season and I wouldn't be surprised if both clubs suffer a poor start to the season due to poor fitness levels as a result of this pointless exercise. Less than 10 days for the Community shield game vs Leicester.

If United has to build up profile in these countries for the $$, hire Becks or some other ambassador and send them along to dance for these fans. Sending the first team squad especially when there is an important season ahead is inexcusable.
Good, as I don't want some meaningless game that could cause unnecessary injuries to both teams.
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"Juventus tell United to add another €10m to their €120m bid for Paul Pogba"

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jul/24/manchester-united-paul-pogba-transfer

This is the most ridiculous transfer saga ever. Couple of days ago they said add €8m to €100m, now the value goes up to €130m.

Why are these negotiations not being conducted behind closed doors and every single bit is thrown out into the press. Smh... Juve are just playing around, have got nothing to lose. If they don't sell Pogba, their best CM stays, if they sell him they have tied Higuain down to a contract and will use the Pogba money to pay for Higuain the very next day.

Poor Ed Woodward, what a mess has he gotten himself into, striking a deal with the devil (read FC Italian Mafia bosses). I really hope they get the Pogba money and then the bank freezes their account with €100m for some silly reason such as missing paperwork or broken fax machine, will serve them right lol
+9
"Juve are just playing around" - as you said they have nothing to lose; makes sense to make the best of the situation. Don't see what's wrong with that. If United are willing to pay up, then Juve are doing the sensible thing by squeezing out more.
+11
What Juve is doing absolutely correct. Why do they have to let their best player go easily? And also dont take everything you see in the media as facts. We are negotiating but i dont think the details will be out in the media.
+10
@ Mkhi you've insulted us at every turn. " FC Italian Mafia bosses).

"I really hope they get the Pogba money and then the bank freezes their account with €100m for some silly reason such as missing paperwork or broken fax machine, will serve them right lol"

This is what any top team would do if another team come for a player of great value. Just look at how much we payed for Higuain and we only were able to do so becuase of a clause. You can argue whether it is wrong or right but it is the way the market works.

I get that you are new to the site but I appreciate if you stop the insults.

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Ok this is like going into a showroom to buy a car, the sticker price is $30k but once the cashier finds out that you are carrying a wallet with you, he huddles into a corner with his boss and then comes back and tells you to add 5k more.
IDK if people are used to that, buy I certainly am not, makes Juve look like a bunch of undecided amateurs. I know it is a once in a lifetime opportunity for Juve, God forbid they will never have to sell someone as talented as Pogba again or be able to steal another young talent for free, but they should just set a price and stick to it just.
+6
well this Mikhi guy is a bag of insulting posts :) When you put the facts in front of him, he will start to cry and insult you more, while also accusing YOU of insulting HIM (even when that's not the case) ... so just to quickly sum it up for you - Do not feed the troll :) it's not a discussion with him, it's a waste of time.
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Sorry but if this is true Juve is being disrespectful/rude. I can't remember the last time a top team haggled another team for money. When we sold Ronaldo to Madrid, or anyone else for that matter we didn't haggle them for money did we? We gave them a price and they paid it and our players left. It's that simple.

If you really think about it it's kind of shameful. Really think about this...

Say you go to buy some shoes and the store tells you the shoes you want is $60, you get to the counter and they tell you no the price is now $70. then when you go to take out the extra 10 dollars they say, oh so you have more money to spend eh? Add ten more dollars the total is $80... that's rude as f**k honestly, and I would probably walk out the store without getting the shoes. Not just the price but the way they are conducting the sale.

I know the transfer of a football player is more complicated than that but there is something called business ethics even in football.
+9
Whilst they are within their rights to hike up the price, I don't like to see the club getting taken for a ride like this. Wonder of the Higuaine deal will turn out if we decide to pull out of the Pogba transfer.
+2
Leafo last I saw it was YOU going on about how Portugal's victory in the European Championship was a fluke and how they did not deserve it; that too on Portugal's team page right after them winning the cup.
You were the one claiming that Portugal got lucky in every game and their victory over France in the final was nothing to behold. And now you're here telling me that I am crying and calling me a troll? Take a hike son.

Well sorry about the insults Jujex; it wasn't meant as an insult in any way though.
+1
Rude? What are you talking about? Why would Juve care if they are rude or not. They have the player and they sell him any price they want. They could ask for 150 mil. Its up to us to decide if he is necessary. I dont understand why people feel the selling party have to make the buying party happy. You try to make as much profit as you can till the point where you dont scare of the buyer.

Supply and demand guys. Pure economics.
+17
@ Mkhi, your point is only valid if you are buying a car that is available in a thousand other dealerships

Pogba is not a Toyota or a Hyundai that you find anywhere, he is like a rare Ferrari 250 GTO that every collector wants and are willing to outbid each other to get him. SO your example is way off.

@Ldinho You might have a point there but how do you even know this is the case? based on the many tabloids who over the years have reported more false reports than you and I can recall!?
+6
Yaldho is right. They are increasing the price of the shoes - $60, $70, $80.. because YOU are paying the extras willingly! You can say no, I will not pay $70 for the $60 shoes, and walk out as you said. But those shoes are so good your legs will be epic in them! :)
+5
There is no sticker price. And it comes as no surprise that the EPL is the most commercially successful league in the world. You walk into my showroom and ask how much, I then laugh in your face and say this much, even if you agree, I can always just laugh in your face again and say nope, now it's this much. On and on we go. I'm not holding a gun to your head, you either play my little game or leave.

PS the only reason Man U didn't take Real for a ride with Ronaldo is because the player was DEMANDING a move. I don`t think Pogba would mind sticking around for 1 more season. He`s guaranteed at least one piece of domestic silverware and maybe even CL glory.
+12
^ Well in that case since Im not gonna play the silly game I'd just leave, and would this be fair - I tell everyone that the showroom is run by a bunch of gold diggers? You should not be upset over that ;)

Leefo still bitter about Portugal's win in the Euros I presume. It was wrapped up 2-3 weeks ago so no point still crying over that, grow up.
+5
Comparing the buying and selling of a footballer to buying a car from a showroom has to be the most redundant comparison i've seen in a long time. Well done.
+7
Should have never gone after Pogba, I would be happy of course if we have him. But not having him is not the end for us. Now they signed Higuain for a huge price, its time for us to back out and not give them anything. Juve can keep playing with their johnny.

Not sure if the "agreed deal" is actually agreed in someway or anyway, all we read were stories written by the media, so can't judge how s**t a club they are, yet.

On second thought, I think we should just buy the club, easier that way.
+7
Not worth that much, move on please. We could fill many positions with that kind of money. We're getting played. Don't think Pogba would want to stick around for long anyways.
+7
Again I say, what makes you think Juve is asking for more money? Don't believe everything you read on the media guys.
+2
Leefo look who is talking about "crying" and "putting facts in front of me" you were the one devastated after Portugal won the Euros, you simply could not accept the fact that the team with fewer attempts on goal won the Euro, that too on the Portugal page you were trying to discredit their victory with silly claims that it was a fluke, France were the better team but failed to win and so on.
What's worse seems your'e still crying about that Euro final. Well keep it up
You trying to buy their best player, they should make it easy for you to buy him?? adding to the fact they do not want to let him go, in order for them to let him go they will want to get the most amount of money they can.. I don't give a damn if its rude or not rude.. If anyone want to buy best player from Arsenal with the fact that we don't want to or don't need to sell, I would expect us to get the most amount of money possible.. may be its all media bullshit, but even if it wasn't they still got all the cards in their hands and its up to you to pull out if you don't want to play their game.
+4
lol to those who said "Juve need to sell Pogba to fund for Higuain move"

u clearly don't have a slightest idea of our club like we (Juve fans) do. Don't mistaken us to the other "bianconeri" like Udinese or Siena

this is 80% of happening this season;

1. Juve sign Higuain
2. Pogba stays (maybe for one more season)

*and for someone up there who compared buying a football player to entering a showroom...lol..just kill yourself dude. There's never been a "pricetag" on Pogba to begin with
+5
@Noir: please refrain from telling people to kill themselves. If you disagree with something please voice it in a manner that doesn't violate footytube guidelines

@Mikhi: do you enjoy creating work for me? The past days all I've been doing with zilch is putting out fires you started. Either learn to communicate in a civilised manner or just don't post.
+4
It's easy,in normal circumstances I have to pay around130.dollar to get ticket to travel from Dubai to my home,but during the occasions of school holiday time,or other festive times,I have to pay around 600 dollars for the same ticket.it's capitalism at its best.

If the demands for the product are extremely high,then you have to pay atleast six times more than product's actual worth.
@4ever
Dude,dubai as a whole is capitalism at its best;)
despite hiring mourinho, our club is still a shambles.

the tour of china is purely a commercial venture, being conducted poorly and in terms of preparation for the season it is a hindrance rather than a help.

it is another example of the glazers' money before football philosophy. if we were a proper football club, instead of an american moneymaking scheme, we would concentrate on football operations and let the teams' success be the marketing for the brand instead of signing up official noodle-based snack partners.

still can't get over the chevy sponsorship. carmaker that needed a massive bailout, whose vehicles are unreliable and s**t. great message to put on the shirt.
+4
I don't agree with you.
+6
I don"t agree with kayteo as well. If Glazers keep spending on improving our squad untill it can challenge all competitions i dont care about how they make money. Manchester united is a global club and fans from around the globe can get a chance to see them first hand when they travel like this.
+1
You can't blame Glazers for this; it is purely down to the effect of money and the control sponsors try to impose on the modern game. This "Interchampions cup" or whatever it is called, is being held all over the world and if Im not wrong various managers in the past have complained about these pre-season games too. It is 100% down to the sponsors milking the club for all their worth.

Pre season games in china are ridiculous. Did you see how the players were sweating and looked exhausted after just 30 mins and took a chill-out break? It is absolutely unacceptable purely from a football perspective to have these crazy friendlies pre-season between top European clubs; imo the key objective of the pre-season is to get the players back to match fitness slowly playing games much closer to home in pleasant weather and against local/weaker opposition.
Ideal preparation for the long season ahead would be a tour to Norway or Switzerland or some nearby country.
I just don't see how playing Dortmund and Man City in China is going to help the players in anyway build their match fitness before the season begins.

I am 100% certain SAF would have told these sponsors to eff off, it does not make any sense.
Are you two brothers?

Why you gotta hate on American cars man? Do you want Ferrari to sponsor your jersey? lol
People need to get off their high horses about sponsorships. 'great message to put on the shirt'.

Short of a non-profit organization, I can't think of many companies who would qualify to be on a shirt these days if the message was of utmost importance. Besides, NPO's can't put up the money to do so anyways.

I also don't see how a tour of China and Chevy logo on the shirt equals club in shambles. None of these things, by the way, have anything to do with Mourinho. These decisions were made before Mourinho got here.

And the rant about money before football philosophy is one that I can somewhat get behind but then again your example to support the argument is that of the Chinese tour which is something we've done before in 2009 and then again 2012. In fact, we've had our teams travel the world for pre-season as opposed to just one continent. This is far better than some of those seasons where they spent more time on the plane getting somewhere than on the field training.

I don't agree with you.
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Jeez, shambles seems to be your favourite word. Everything the club does is shambles to you.

Also why is the Chinese tour being conducted poorly ? Just seems like unfortunate events with the rain the flight delay.
Not hating on American car lovers, but Chevy really? Would rather drive a Buick or Cadillac than a chevy. Heck I'd even go on a bulky GMC than a mainstream low-end Chevy with less than appealing interiors.

Regarding the bailout, the US Government made significant losses (more than $5bn) bailing out these companies so an average tax payer has every right to be angry why that money is being used to sponsor one of the biggest football clubs. But then the Chevy CEO is going to say, if you don't advertise, nobody is going to buy their cars. So this topic will just go around in circles without any definite answer.
we're playing two pointless friendlies with about a week's prep. nonsense. take a look at dortmund's, or pools ffs.

this is pretty much the prep that chelsea had last year and it worked out great for them.

i just want us to be a football club. not some american's bank account.
+1
Come on man all big clubs do this. Bayern go to China nearly every summer but are in USA this pre-season.

You name me one top club not playing in icc summer tournament? Barca, madrid, atletico, Bayern, dortmund, utd, chelsea, city, arsenal Liverpool, spurs, ac Milan, inter psg and even Leicester city are all playing in the tournament hosted across the globe from China to Australia to usa.
+1
We all want the club to make huge signings costing 10's of millions of $$$ but we don't want to hear about all the marketing to Asia et all that makes it all possible
+10
What Pete said.
http://metro.co.uk/2016/07/23/anthony-martial-appears-to-hit-back-at-manchester-united-for-giving-no-9-shirt-to-zlatan-ibrahimovic-6024842/

If this is true I dont know what to think. From once the player should not be complaining as he is making so much money and its up to club to decide to give him shirt number or not.

At the same time Martial invested in his brand where he uses number 9 (as many footballers do today like Ronaldo or Messi), which fs up his business, and club fails to inform him privately and discuss this matter with him... I just hope this doesn't create problems on the field or even gets escalated further.
He's got the iconic no. 11 and he should be proud. And personally I don't believe these kind of info. That's something happening inside the club. The guy who posted this is just a random journalist so who is he to know this kind of info ? Does he work with MUFC or Martial ?
+2
Anything from Metro is mostly bs
if i was martial id probably leave and join back for 100m in 2 seasons
+13
Is he trying to be funny? Arsenal fans shouldn't talk all your money goes to your shareholders
+10
that is why you are not Martial ;)
+2
Tech what a shambolic attempt at a joke but hey you tried mate, keep working at it.
+2
it was funny enough
+4
Did anybody read Desmond Kane's damning atricle about the Pogba transfer? Aparently we are gamblers, desperate and directionless. What a tosser
+1
He doesn't know what he's talking about lol. We are more like investors, hopeful and visionary.
+1
I agree about the directionless part. We have been directionless since Fergie retired.

Edit: We have been directionless since we sold Ronaldo!
+6
That is a bit harsh, since Fergie , Moyes was a disaster but Van Gaal just didn't work out - I won't say directionless (though the direction was mostly back passes) you could see he was trying something but it never materialised. Atleast he left behind couple of talented young players from the setup like Rashford and Lingard which is what Man Utd always look for.
+2
probably right to say we are desperate. we dont want to go 27 years or w/e the count is for liverpool. we've broken our own record twice in club transfer (mata then di maria who f****d off for psg for 15 million loss), we've set the record for most expensive teenagers twice with shaw (18) and martial 19), we've tabled world record fees for muller (85 milion pound), bale (85-100 million pound) and rumored to be happy to meet neymar's clause. now 100 for pogba. we're desperate and massively overpaying left right center. just look at fellaini or even herrera (cost almost as much as sanchez ffs). bailley is great but 30 million for 22 year old defender with limited first team experience (1-2 seasons), 0 champions league experience etc is also quite risky even if it works out well (cant be any worse than mangala tho :P). i just hope we dont make fools of ourselves if this trend continues.
+1
We have to stick with a manager and the fans need to get behind Mourniho. We cant keep sacking mangers and expect to be successful. This is our 4th manager in 3 years. How can we have a proper transfer strategy if we keep changing managers? I say we should give Mourinho at least 3 years.
+1
First 2 years will be gold with Jose...3rd year is when he becomes a freak
+4
Shh they don't need to know lol ;)

Mou is epic mastermind special one swag, have fun!
Who the eff is Desmond Kane?
+3
Some c**t
+2
i'm back for the derby!!!

so what did i miss??any stupid prediction been made so far??sayrox??cheshire??
+2
http://www.footytube.com/teams/england/sunderland/?ref=search_as
+4
Whats up with linking me to sunderland page??giving moyes hx i won't be shock if they were relegated in his 1st season.you realise i'm too a manutd fan right.just not a stupid one like some.and not lvg fan like some.had he not been to manutd,we wont be wasting 250mill on trash like depay rojo etc.
+5
Moyes is the answer, we should pay his buyout clause of 100m from Sunderland and bring him back home, instead of Pogba, that will bring us back on the map.
That profile pic is so f**ing funny! LMAO
I actually think it is Moyes' actual account under the fake name of Lutheaven
+1
Still a troll
+1
No I don't realize that you are a man united fan. And if hoping that your current manager with your favorite team does well (even if you think he is not the right manager) makes you stupid, then guess what - everyone of us is stupid. Wanting us to fail and then coming here to gloat every time we faltered and going missing when we did well, that's what you did. you are just a troll dude.

just look at your profile picture if you don't know why I am linking you to Sunderland page. I remember you used one match highlight video of moyes's Everton vs lvg's some team where moyes won to prove to me that moyes is better than lvg. That's how absurd your football knowledge is.
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0
16
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
17
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
18
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
19
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
20
C/L  C/L Qualifying  UEFA Cup  Relegation 

UEFA Europa League Table

Form
PTS
GD
GA
GF
L
D
W
Pl
Pos
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
1
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
2
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
3
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
4
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
5
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
6
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
7
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
8
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
9
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
10
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
11
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
12
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
13
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
14
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
15
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
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