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Re: (barring a loss tomorrow), we, and to a similar extent, Chelsea, are the only teams close being a good team capable of challenging City in the near future. Pretty bad showing by Spurs, gaps everywhere, bad challenges. They're becoming quite the experts at being England's best team until it counts.

And thanks de Bruyne for reminding us that we're hunting for our 21st title, congrats on what's most likely City's 5th.
I doubt we will be ready even next season knowing how city will make sure they upgrade in the summer.
In addition to their obvious quality, this City team is fueled with hunger and motivation. Sometimes that plays as big a role as the quality of the players. They need to lose some of that motivation. Only then will their flaws surface. Hopefully by that time we've signed the right players to be on par with them in terms of quality.
City will spend another 200m in summer. World class 11 and world class back ups in every position. Backed by a world class manager. Nobody going to compete with them anytime soon
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city have 4 players in the EPL top 10 scorers ...
scary part is they could all stay there and even climb higher
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Lol De bruyne showing his class with another shameful dive
But spurs are a joke
@Vaaz - I give you lots of credit. But calling that a dive? You are clearly watching with tainted glasses.

Totally agree to your second statement though. lol
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How's that a dive?... I bet if it was a man united player you guys would be saying how obvious the penalty was
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the ball had already passed his control, he just went down as he knew it would be a penalty with the way ref has been making calls
He actually tried to jump over the challenge to avoid it. Wasn't enough. Vertonghen was balls in.
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Was it worse than Herreras?
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Really? Yea, if a ManU player did that, it is a part of a game. lol
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Takes a really salty loser to even question KDB work ethic.
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So Pogba is the only high profile player that gets a red out here? Ali and Kane should both have gotten straight reds. FA always showing it's quality.
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I know right... Seems unfair what was the ref watching there specially the Ali challenge
Spurs need to be relegated. Period.
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We've finished higher than you last 2 seasons matey, bit of piping down needed.
Yes Spurs did great to finish above us and also not win the league.
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Spurs fans turning into gunners fans,being happy with finishing above others.
Spurs cannot compare with man city,and I'm not just talking about this season.
Anyone expecting Spuds to beat the divers?
Nope. Damn, City are good no doubt, but their last 3 goals from set pieces... everything going their way
yeah spurs are getting played off the park even though its just 1-0.
right, everything is going their way. thats probably the difference between title winning side and the contenders.
mid week they scored from a wide freekick which had a strange resemblance to cr7’s goals from out wide. usually they never go in but when when they do, they come in numbers

im more annoyed with the commentators. everytime a city player takes a dive, its a “poor tackle” by the opponent, every city tackle is a solid challenge, everytime opponent goes down its dubbed “making the most of it”
Wow. spurs can't even pass out of their own box. City is really dominating most teams now with high press
Lol Spurs players wasting time at the 30 minute mark when they are 1-0 down.

And Vaaz, care to explain when there was a dive in this match? I've been watching the game and so far the ref has done a good job except that City should have got a penalty according to the commentators when Rose pushed Mangala from the back with 2 hands.
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They are divers in general, not just this game
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Ooohhh am i detecting a future City fan since childhood in SanchezAlexis??
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alexis sanchez are you watching the same game? City are diving everytime they lose the ball. But what else do you expect from the professor of theatrics Pep?
TheCheshireCat, just cause I don't think there were any dives in this game it makes me a City fan? Lol f**k logic.

@Vaaz, I don't know man. I've seen a player or two go down easy when shielding the ball but that's it. Look at Kane and Allis tackles, you can't dive when you get hit like that.
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That's way unfair Vaaz. Spurs are battering city with their indiscriminate fouls.
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Vaaz just mad Manchester is blue. He can't stand it, the itch he can't scratch.
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Winning one title makes Manchester blue? I can say London is Blue because Arsenal haven't won a thing in years, but City have a long way to go (21 titles) before manchester becomes blue lol

And quite funny seeing Barca, Arsenal all support City's theatrics, all clubs whose players struggle to stay on their feet, no surprises there :p
Lol oh yes, everybody dives but United players :p. Get a grip Vaaz. Season is not over, you guys still have a chance.
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Yeah right its called a chance of finishing 2nd lol
Careful Vaaz, any more talk of history and ppl might mistake you for a Pool fan.
"United's points haul of 38 from 17 games would have been enough to sit top of table at the same stage in four of the last 10 seasons."

And I'm sure in all 10 of them, the gap is less than 5 points, maybe 8. Give City credit. They're really good. But some perspective is helpful, we're not too bad either.
we're not bad, but there's still lots of room for improvement. this summer's activity just re-affirmed we're not quite at the peak of our powers because there are still big gaps in the squad in key areas. we kind of were forced into going with the best we could on the market instead of taking the best out there period. and we didnt address every key area (fullbacks, wide midfield)
like a top team in their pomp signs a lindelof for the future, we needed a top CB right now. A matic rounds out the squad, doest necesarilly start every game (though im not complaining, he's been great).

I don't for a second believe lukaku was the #1 choice, we wanted griezmann. Ibra being hurt complicated things, as did the transfer ban athletico got. Two big players for us injured or suspended for so long (ibra an pog) and the downturn in form of mkhi have really hurt us but we've done OK so far and i think the areas we can improve on are very clear. either way, I think a run into the CL will boost moral and lift spirits, and I think that's on the cards.
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Agreed. RB and LB specifically are still not up to par, Valencia and Young are solid but are getting older and can't attack with the quality needed from modern-day fullbacks. As good as Martial and Rashford have been coming in from the left, we still don't have a natural winger to balance out either side. And our #10 position is in constant flux, although I really like what I've seen from Lingard these past 3-4 games. But Griezmann could still be a possibility.
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I agree with you guys and I have said too many times full backs are very important nowadays in epl. big club like man utd should have at least a full backs and cover for them as well. we are only few players away from winning the whole thing.
Thats true, the extra spark from fullback can change the game completely. Barca had Dani Alves, Real has Marcelo, Bayern has Alaba. I miss Evra 😭
Its not like we didnt try to sign Full backs. Shaw has been bad luck and Darmian has been poor. Problem with Rashford and Martial is they both play better on the left and theres not much support when they are attacking on that side and are forced to do more defensive work as well

We have not been bad. With City's current point total, we would have still been second in all our seasons
Bailly out up to 3 months. Will need surgery.. 🤬
sucks, but at least we have some cover with rojo back
So Ozil for Mkhi in summer? I would do it. I have been very let down by Mkhi, he is Soo talented but just lacks the impact you need from a no10.

Also Grizmann is moving next summer. Maybe we can have him instead?
Ozil will be a great servant to Lukaku and co.
Yes. And Ozil seems to do well under Mou.
on a free? honestly, not a terrible idea. he CAN make others around him shine
Ozil is great when there is quality players around him, hence he shines as the best CAM when playing for Germany
Miki had 21 chances created as of October 2nd. That was third in the PL behind De Bruyne 24 & David Silva 23.For the entire month of October,he created 1 chance, bringing his total to 22.That was 9 more than any other United player.And yet Mou decided to punish him for his poor form and couched him since then.
Also, Ozil had the same type of issues with Mou when both were in Madrid, so it's not really the player but the style and Mou's tactic. Can't put a bird in a cage and expect it to fly.
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Weird, I really like Mhki. Anyone can go off form but shutting a player completely is strange...
You are always in here to support Mkhi based on some stat, but his performances have been terrible for 3 months now and Mou has rightly banished him. He barely awake during games, giving away possesion on merely seeing an opponent defender, not being to get past anyone, forget that not even being able to get the ball out of his feet.
We should stop comparing the stats of the first 4 games, based on those stats the club should be at 49 points not City, but thats now how it worked out. Those games were more of a false start, and there was no consistency since then.
Unless he sorts himself out and puts in good performances every game, I dont see any reason for him to play.

There were some key games in the middle and I dont get why mou should be held by the scruff of his throat for every decision. If he played Mkhi and he didnt do anything he would have been to blame more. Instead he played Lingard and he scored 3 goals including 2 vs Arsenal, so Mou is vindicated
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Great points there and i totally agree with you. What I meant is that how can one improve and show the will to fight back when the opportunity is not given? Not even on the bench.
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Isn't Ozil inconsistent like Mkhi? If mkhi can bounce back like he did at the start of his United career I'd definitely keep him
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Miki has been bad, should have been dropped earlier. Stats dont always tell everything. Mata got sent to the Shadow Realm after making 1 bad mistake. Miki might not have made a major mistake but he does absolutley nothing when he was playing.
If you guys could sack Mourinho and get Klopp/Ancelotti at the end of the season if you finish 3rd and reach semis of CL would you do it?
Klopp would never come lol and United fans will never want him now
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Big no to Klopp, cause he still needs to prove it in the premier league. And No to Ancelotti as well. He was poor for Bayern Mourinho is better than them anyway. So unless it's Pep, big NO because I don't see any managers better than Mourinho or Pep in world football.
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Nope. I trust Mou more than the names you mentioned.
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@Sergio unfortunately you are right. hahaha. Was always a big fan of Klopp until... Pretty biased. I do like his attacking approach to games. Also like mou though. Think the critics towards him are very harsh.
We are missing our motor in midfield. if we had sort of a back up to pogs we would be playing much better in his absence. And Mhiki not playing well is a huge loss aswell. That is 4 of our 6 major signings from last 2 years (not counting lindelof as a major signing) missing games due to injury or in the case of mhiki not playing well.
So all will be good if pogs gets back. And we find a good number 10. We will be fine and see lot more attacking football.
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I honestly remember a long thread on this page discussing about Top-3 managers in the world and who united pick to replace Moyze. and great majority placed Klopp and Carlo above Jose. At that time he was at Chelsea and we were trying to make a case that he has achieved more than Klopp, but everyone dismissed it saying he was too negative and would not succeed without money.

Anyways Carlo has won league title in all the Top-5 leagues in the world and won 3 Champions league titles. Just because he dint click at Bayern(Dint win CL) doesnt make him any less than Pep or Jose. Lets remember what Pep won at Bayern to make his failure forgettable?
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Well I'm sure some placed Jose lower because of the negative tactics he uses. I can see Ancelotti managing here. Easy, he is made for the big clubs but not Klopp. Klopp had a horrible season for Dortmund and Liverpool still haven't reached the promised Land yet. So there is a question mark over him and we can't take that chance.

I'm sorry, but Mourinho and Klopps achievement is not really a debate. I don't know who you were talking to but all you have to do it google it and you can find out.
Yaldho - I understand that Jose and Klopp is not even a debate and i was surprised as you are when some actually did place him above.
Anyways my point is very clear. How is that you neglected poor season Pep had at Bayern and consider him in Top-2, but Carlo who had similar failure as Pep at Bayern is not good enough anymore in-spite of winning 3 CL(more than Pep) and league title in all top-5 leagues in the world.
Klopp has proven he can sign quality wingers...which is what we need.
However, since he joined LFC, he went from badass to bitch in my eyes
If Mou was to go, the best option is Carlo - Carlo style is very similar to SAF, compact defence and quick counters. Proven in England and UCL.
Bayern was the only glitch for Carlo. However he may be headed to his old club AC Milan as they have money to spend again but very poor for this season.
However its best if Mou will stay on for few more years unless he wants to manage PSG
Jose and Ancelloti are way ahead of Klopp as managers. Klopp not very good in finals up until this point, and the pull-factor for me before he went to Liverpool is that he was likable; now that's not so much the case, for obvious reasons.

Carlo is a very respectable coach and was actually my first choice after Moyes (Heynckes was my first after SAF). But I like Jose here; 3rd place and a CL semi would be a disappointment considering where we are atm, but it's not enough to warrant a sack for me. I'm sure there would be United fans that disagree.
sacking Jose will only hinder the growth UTD have made, last year you guys were 6th and this year you were challenging for the title and if it was any other time because City are too good right now, you would be favorites to win the title, regardless of his defensive approach he has tried changing his tactics up going to 3 at the back, attacking top teams eg Chelsea, Arsenal ( exclude Pool game ) instead of sitting back
what kind of injury did bailly suffer? feels like he's been out for months.
I thinks it's an Ankle injury.
and a serious one according to the official instagram account of the club
Profile pic is a little outdated SIF, eh? :)
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You shouldn't be talking Joey.... Lol
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Lol true, true.
Schweini is an all time great who we're lucky to have play for us, but Depay is Depay, but hey now Ole is a United legend!
Anyone said anything about old profile pics? Did you hear the joke of Peter Schmeichel's sperm won the PL before Liverpool :)
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At this rate even raheem sterling's spermshot will win a PL before liverpool
All hail the deadly trio and let it be as great as the holy trinity.


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