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Daley vs QPR. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PMOuT05Yi4

I had a long thought about who was my MOTM for me today and I'd have to go with the others today stating that it was Blind.

His performance was nothing special nor flashy, but it was exactly what was needed. Simple and effective; going quietly about his business.

He made us tick! Setting the tempo in midfield, starting/launching the attacks & was always available for a pass.
The way he screened the defense giving Di Maria and Herrera the freedom to advance was also key. He was the one setting the tone when pressing once we lost possession as well.

I can't say that I've seen a lot of him, but I did watch around 7 Ajax matches last season and what stood out for me the most about him is how he was constantly improving in that role.

Not to get carried away, but if he keeps this trajectory & consistency, we may very well have a world class sweeper in 2/3 years time.
I guess Ferdinand finally opened up about last season. Some interesting quotes on what he had to say about working under Moyes. Can't sat that I'm too surprised.

Ferdinand on Moyes: "I didn’t enjoy playing under him. Sometimes our main tactic was the long, diagonal cross. It was embarrassing."

"Moyes’s innovations led to negativity and confusion. It was always how to stop the other side. Not how to win."

"Against Fulham we had 81 crosses! I was thinking, why are we doing this? Andy Carroll doesn’t play for us!"
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@Yaldho thanks, was planning to edit in the other quotes, but you beat me to it. ;)

These quotes were only an extract of his book. Probably going to be some more in his soon to be released 2nd autobiography.
"The whole approach was alien. Other times Moyes wanted lots of passing. He’d say: 'Today I want us to have 600 passes in the game. Last week it was only 400’. Who cares? I’d rather score five goals from 10 passes.”

He said Moyes took the players to a park to practice their set-pieces, which he said was "bizarre".
"It was amateurish," he said. "I mean, why not just send Bayern an email or a DVD.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/11096067/Rio-Ferdinand-hits-out-David-Moyess-tactics-while-in-charge-of-Manchester-United.html

Lol, I cant believe a manager would say something like 'i want you to make 600 passes'. That is comical. No wonder we were so faking horrible and to think i defended Moyes for most of last season. SMH
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damn DM dragged down the whole united squad
We got rid of him that's all, no point now talking how s**t he was now.

But,what's shocking is his level of shitness!
Carrick and Rooney were the only United players capable of pulling off a diagonal long ball to the right wing like Scholes used to do. Now I have seen Di Maria, Herrera and Blind pull off that pass and it makes me happy. Lots of potential for sure.

But I have some doubts as well. Mainly that Van Gaal's tactics are too fluid. There was a lot of position swapping between the forwards and midfield. Certain players kept poping up in areas that had nothing to do with their positions and while that might work against a team like QPR it will be easy for teams like Chelsea to exploit it. Rojo and Rafael need to choose carefully when going forward. Their main job is defence and they can't leave us vulnerable at the back.

As far as the formation goes, it worked well against a weak team but against the likes of City and Chelsea we might need something a bit more stable.

Ofcourse there is the possibility I might be wrong. It gives me a headache just trying to think of the best possible formation for this team so I will just keep my mouth shut and watch what Van Gaal has in store for us this season.

Feeling much better about this side though. I was wrong about Di Maria. Didn't really follow him last season so I had been out of the loop for a while but damn he was outstanding today. Hopefully more of the same from him. Loving Herrera and Blind they ooze quality.
We played with a lot of freedom today because QPR was poor. Against better teams we would be more disciplined. But the system has to be fluid for the diamond to work. The strikers will have to split to cover the width. The only player with a set position will be the CDM. The LM, CAM, RM are all allowed to interchange.

This is how we defended today from the front.

Rooney-----Mata-----RVP
-----Dimaria--Herrera
----------Blind

When attacking Di Maria was given freedom to go out wide or come inside while Rafael was primarily the one giving width down the right side.

--------Rooney--RVP
Di Maria---Mata------Rafael
------ --------Herrera
--------Blind

Fluidity is a good thing and not something to be worried about.
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it is a proh cess. personnel wise how we set up and fluidity gives LVG different options against teams that may only know how to play one type of football eg.park the bus. get positioning smooth so managerial changes can be made without confusion and no player has an excuse for not knowing their job.

(see above diagram by Yaldho for more details)

"Fluidity is a good thing and not something to be worried about."

Exactly, the most dangerous teams are the ones that are the most fluid. Crisp, incisive passing under a high tempo will open up the best of defenses.

The whole idea of "totaalvoetbal" and how it revolutionized football back in the 60's was the interchangeability of it's components, which gave it fluidity. Football was no longer rigid, but became free flowing.

The idea was that any player could be a defender, midfielder or striker. When one player rotates out of position, the other rotates or covers the vacant space maintaining the team's organized structure.

I highly doubt that we're going to see less of this. I would imagine that against the top sides, we'll be a bit more disciplined and a bit more conservative in our rotation, but it will still be a main component in the way we attack.
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All great teams are fluid in attack. When Moyes took over we started playing flat, rigid, and without much movement. That's why I thought he was destined to be a failure after a few months. I saw no signs of fluidity or the beginnings of movement that are necessary to be an effective attacking force. And Manchester United have to be an attacking team, we have to bus to park.
damn what a cheeky 5th goal for milan by menez! crazy game

and wow bad day for diego lopez, last goal was shocking
and di maria apparently scored the same type of goal in training yesterday according to LvG (BBC) and di maria alludes to it here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEcbuZM5rug

what about the assist to mata though, intentional or just a crap shot? i thought it was intentional but all the pundits said it was a bad shot that fell to mata and the celebration/ reaction from mata and herrera kinda suggests that might have been true
^yeah definitely it was "intententional"^^
I'm really not sure... he shaped up to shoot but you can clearly see him look at Mata before he strikes it... I personally think it was a great pass... but I may be delusional lol.
Yeah no way that's intententional. If you look at his form, it looks like he's taking a shot. But again, it's Di Maria so I wouldn't doubt it if it was intentional.
Only Di Maria knows, but hey if it was Valencia, it'd be regarded as an intentional assist right since he does it all the bloody time? lol.
I dunno, when I first saw it I thought it was a driven ball into feet, he actually looks up and appears to eye Matas run, the ball was inch perfect.

SanchezAlexis makes a point about form but if you was whipping a pass into feet you would shape yourself like that anyway so you could drive the pass with enough pace to do the defenders.

To me it seems unlikely that it was a shot given Di Marias position, no real shooting angle for a left footer in that area of the pitch, I thought he probably would of put his foot through it rather than go with the side foot if he was shooting as well especially given how far out he was.

Anders reaction was lol, he could of been asking Angel was it a shot and having a chuckle over it, guess we will never find out eh lol, got us a goal one way or the other so who cares lol.
Exactly, it was an assist none the less so let's just say it was intentional ;)
Di Maria is so "world class" that at times he mistakenly supplies inch perfect passes for assists. :)
I don't think it was a shot,it was a driven pass.He clearly saw the Mata run.
Finally saw the game. Was so excited for this one and HOLY CRAP THAT DID NOT DISAPPOINT. Its do good to see a proper player with the #7 again! Herrera was amazing and I think his partnership with Blind will be one to watch out for. Its also so good to see our options off the bench. Now its a matter of keeping them all happy!
once rafael was subbed it was clear we lost something important on the right side imo. really hope lingard can adapt to the rwb and utility role after injury.
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lingard is a winger so no. janko or vermijl at a stretch. jones is still our back up RB imo. again why let varela leave? i will never understand.
Janko's crossing in the MK Dons game was as horrible as the legendary crossing of Antonio Valencia. Maybe even worse. Vermijl seems like the only real option whose preferred position is RB. I've not seen much of him to be honest. Jones is the best possible RB cover we have at the moment. But his performances at CB have been way better than our other defenders. Clearly Valencia is not good enough. We need to buy someone in January.
actually i would not judge janko on that game alone. he showed great potential in the reserves last year, especially attack wise.
buying a back up rb is not the solution imo. simply because we have lots of youth covering that position, it will not be good for their development. that up for grab spot is a good incentive for janko and vermijl. and varela might come back also.
rumors that dani alves isnt getting a contract extension at barca. theres a reason lingard started there unless it was to expose him and sell/loan which i dont think was the case. like to see janko and vermijl considered but they dont seem to be highlighted often. (unless we keeping them under wraps)
I'm still disappointed with the selling/loan of Varela.That boy was made for greatness.
Was Blind not excellent today?

He allowed Herrera and Di Maria to do all the offensive work, giving adequate cover for the fullbacks to get forward too.
+5
And still managed to get a shot off toward the end! Ya, he'll be an important player for us
Are there any vids online of his touches yet? If I find it , I'll post it
107 passes completed of 112 total or something
http://youtu.be/_GU8_8v8LhM
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I just saw an article about Cuadrado on SSN...
And thought about how excited I was that we were linked with him 1 or 2 months ago
BEFORE we signed Di Maria and Falcao

The sense of superiority I feel now when I see the new team...
Apparently we'd have undersold ourselves a bit getting a player like Cuadrado
Ptsh way too good for all that!
Favourite part of the game was when Phil dowd fell and everyone chanted "are you Gerrard in disguise?" lol classic
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The crowd was just waiting for some poor sod to slip on their arse.

You could almost feel the suspense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGq7Jx6a-U0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2JXvnxG9Go
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFF06xzf1fA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkF1uZpFE_k
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNsrK6P9QvI
lmao liverpool fans....

-knocked out of the FA cup by a league one side only last year (with suarez, gerrard sturridge, sterling etc)

-No champions league for 5 seasons.

now they mock...

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Oh dear, looks like you've upset this one Badge.

I'm all for good banter but this is just awful Pewpew, try a bit harder lad, this is a poor effort.
+5
Please don't feed the trolls.
i swear these liverpool fans are reaching, so you are in the cl and we arent for the first time in over 20 years, fact is you have been shite for the last 20 years while we have been winning trophy after trophy and...
http://i.imgur.com/EjABmqK.gif
+5
Naw they got knocked out by us ;)
got knocked out by oldham jan 2013..last year ;)
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Because I'm happeeeeeeEEEEEEEEeeeeEeee
Because I'm happeeeeeeEEEEEEEEeeeeEeee

GREAT TO SEE THE SWAGGER BACK

Wayne Rooney can't hide how happy he is, it's written all over his face
Let's make this a season to remember
(Left this comment 22 minutes ago huh?)
best not to get too happy. it was only qpr and we showed alot of issues that a decent side could have easily exploited. still alot of work to get done
Totally understand and appreciate the need for tempered optimism here...
There are some real tests around the corner

But tbh
we've been waiting for this for quite a while
Let's just be happy to be one of the tough challengers again

No reason to suppress your joy lads! It doesn't necessarily mean you become complacent. The players know the targets that have been set.
They know they need to win win win
But QPRs timidity notwithstanding, it does look like a fierce spirit we have now


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