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After all this, amazingly we're still only 4 points off a champions league spot lol
Amazing. Simply amazing. My hopes stays strong. We havn't faced any big teams yet though lmao
fact is our position should be waaaaay better, out of the 5 teams we have played so far 3 were newly promoted teams, 1 midtable team and another relegation fighting team, and we only managed to get 1 win out of 5, these were all the kind of games you would expect united to win, specially since this time last year we had more points and a tougher schedule and we had not spent all this money
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It's early days with a relatively new team. We'll improve game by game by being more organised and controlled on and off the ball.
Although your not much behind you haven't played any of the top ten last season. Suggesting it's going to take a very big performance in order to keep level get alone catch up. In order to match Arsenal's 79 points in 4th place last season, although this was a very high point 4th place, you need 2.24 points per game the rest of the season when you have played many of the 'easy' games.
4 points away from top 4

2 points away from 20th position


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Guys anyone think that evans injury had any effect in the game. .I know he makes mistakes sometimes..but he is our most experienced CB now..
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tbh im looking forward to seeing rojo take cb (if that happens) and luke shaw play lb and this evans injury helps rojo become our fighter at the back. blackett seems organized but he looks like he wants someone he can count on. allow shaw to make an impact. positive luke shaw and rafael on opposing wings will be headaches in the future.

smalling might take cb but coming back from injury did seem a bit sluggish today imo. could be fine next wk tho.
I am worried about having both shaw and rafael in the same line up who likes to attack more..ine should be disciplined. .juat look at azpi he attacks but never loses anything on defensive side too
@Subhakar7
Shaw was defensively very solid for Southampton last season. Rafael is not as good defensively in my opinion. He is great going forward but sometimes very eager to get the ball back and makes mistakes as a result.
Despite being our most experienced defender, Evans has been very poor. I don't think it'll be much of a loss considering his current form.
Evans experiences to me doesn't mean anything, he doesn't show it even an inexperience player look more comfortable than him, his form has really for like 2 seasons now
Guys, the situation is getting critical. We are both so deep in s**t we can't even make fun of each other anymore...
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i don't think utd are in deep s**t. plenty of goals in the side, defense needs to be more organized. the organization can be worked on in training and will improve in time.
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I know, I'm joking. But it's probably one of the worst Premier League starts for both teams.
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Not really. Chelsea and maybe Arsenal are the only ones that have made a good start. Every other big team has had a horrible start. So its not all that bad if your just looking at points.
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Lol SIF, Yaldho you are sparing no quarter on this bloke. He really wants some support.

@Madummer - too early in the season man. United need time to get their team to gel, specially the backline. Liverpool depend too much on Sturridge. Balo will take time as well. Except for Chelsea, all other major teams have dropped a lot of points.
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Our start has to be the worst of the lot. We haven't played a top team yet and have dropped loads of points. Need to win some big games this season.
I agree with SiF.

Its not all bad for us, lots of new signings have come into the starting 11 not just the squad, its going to take time for them to settle, we've got a brilliant attack, defence is lacking but we can work on that.

Van Gaal is known to be a slow starter as well, his sides typically pick up after a couple of months and then go like a steam train.

We've not seen anywhere near the best of this new United aide, still in second gear, I'm really confident that we will see a drastic improvement as the season plays out.
We need time to gel the team together. Like lvg said, 6 players in, 4 players? out, its a brand new team. Losing 2 is better than i expected.
cant get anyworse. even attacking wise it still worries me a bit. the moment di maria went off we had zero threat up front.
If none of our defenders are going to step up and be vocal, then De Gea needs to. I'm not saying any of the goals were his fault (two penalties and 3 very poorly defending goals, not much he could do) but he's got to tear his defenders to pieces for not covering him. He's gotta go Tim Howard on them and berate them. He should have told Blackett about the player behind him for the 4th goal. Goalies can see the whole field and should be vocal, but De Gea needs to improve that part of his game. He should have told Evans to step on to the man for the first goal. If the keeper can organize his defense, there will always be goals conceded.
Granted the ref lost us the game today but the players let that decision get to their heads and we were never the same since. The captain was supposed to be the one calming everyone down during and right after that decision instead he was one of the most hot-headed.

I'm also surprised how LVG and his staff were so passive at 3-2. No one reorganizes the team and it costs us the equalizer. At 3-3 when the momentum is on the opponent's side, no one told the full backs they should stop going so high up the pitch and left the CB completely exposed on the counter. The players should have been more patient in the build up at that point.

A bitter lost but many positives attacking wise. However a strong campaign is built on a strong defense and on this evidence, do expect some more hiccups.
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LVG is not a touch line manager. He has a game plan and he trusts his players to execute it on the field. He dosent have to tell players that they need to calm down and be more cautions. The players are supposed to know that. Also Rooney was screaming at the team when we lost that soft goal to concede the 3rd goal. He is the captain, that is what he has to do.
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Rooney was great. I love the fact that he actually screamed at his teammates to try at least and put some business in them.

They were totally lost, and this is what you sometimes need to do in order to put them back in place. It felt like Rooney was only one who cared at that point, and it is sad to say it but our team does not know how to stand up after they fall. But I am sure this is something we will learn.
You also need a leader at the back. Someone who will organize the defence and shout out orders.

we've lost that when Vidic left.
Demon Di Maria @DemonDiMaria · 3h
First day at United van Gaal demand Di Maria passport. He say star player not need carry own passport.

Now I no why!
pic.twitter.com/ZEbGcGPNAu

https://twitter.com/DemonDiMaria/status/513696186348630016
Evil Moyes: me have 7 point from 5 game, van gaal 5 point. I win.

#MoyesIn
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Lampard scores against Chelsea!!!
lmfao :D a present to chelsea fans :D
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20 points down the drain for my star defender. thanks lampard.
would be funny if he scored another in the dying moments
That's what you get for picking a City defender as your star defender SIF :P
*chelsea defender
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Mata was my captain. Why would you bench a player who scored 8 in 10. LVG owes me an explanation.
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i put in blackett for this game week. that went well...
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Wow brainfart, sorry. Okay yeah that is forgiveable lol

Man if that second Lampard shot had gotten in, it would've been amazing! He genuinely looked sad at the end of the game, like he betrayed his team.
@Sif, i had to open emergency transfer to get rid of luis

Best decision ever
i always get ivanovic, but now i have to rethink this strategy because chelsea are not keeping clean sheets. if they insist on a double pivot with fabregas i don't see this pattern changing as well.
Lampard had tears in his eyes. It probably felt like an OG to him, lol.

It just feels weird to see him in that blue he wears now.
hold on palace. please keep them at bay
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but drinkwater is quite a name
and he is one of our academy player, and there several of them including the one the one that should have send off twice lol


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