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So Guillem Balague, well known Spanish journo for Sky who broke the Di Maria story (among others), apparently said yesterday that Laporte wants to come to the club. All that is basically standing in our way is the 31m release clause. Make of it what you will, I suppose. Would be a dream IMO - either him or Varane. But there's little to no chance Varane is going anywhere.

In other news, one thing I've noticed since Rojo's return from injury is that he's much more talkative on the pitch. Anyone else notice this? I'm kind of hoping that, as he improves his english, he might take up a leadership role. I like his style of defending. He seems to be stepping up, playing physically, screamimg and shouting, organising .. and he can play the ball better than any other of our CBs (except for maybe Evans, who seems to have lost all confidence anyway)
I have also noticed Rojo taking on something of a leadership role, he was well up for the battle against Cambridge as well, definite warrior for sure.

Could blossom into the Vidic replacement we are crying out for.

I agree on Laporte too, massive talent, Balague has been wrong before but he must have good sources at Bilbao, he got the Herrera stuff spot on as well even when doubts were raised over whether the transfer would be complete.

Hopefully the presence of Herrera could be a factor in getting him here, it appears Laporte was promoted to the senior squad in 2012 so Herrera is bound to know him personally.
i just heard recently madrid want him. we already know how bilbao work: if we want laporte we have to pay the release clause. then it is up to the players. honestly i would prefer him to otamendi, marquinos, and whoever else we have been linked with. he's till young and can better, and is competitive with the top defenders across europe, statistically speaking. he's tipped for the top, could be a shrewd move despite the big fee.
Yes I've noticed him motioning his fellow defenders into position at times too recently. He's hardly stepped a foot wrong since he got here really, he was doing great until his injury and now he's back.

Hell even his injury happened in a respectable way, sliding head first into a challenge against City correct? Vida would be proud! haha
Im tired of seeing RM signing players so easily.

They are like this player is good, we must get him. The next day they present him in front of the press with the RM shirt.

No transfer rumours lasting for months, no bid rejected or negotiation.

Its so easy for them...
+1
^They're probably the biggest club in football, along with their eternal rivals. Can't say it's surprising.
+1
they have the strongest team and most money. all they do is sign players.

but the press speculation for the brazilian lad has been going on for months. it's not like this came out of the blue. the player wanted to go to madrid anyways, paid part of the transfer fee from his wages.

personally i dont think he's that great at the moment, the brazilian league doesnt compare to italy spain england or germany.

we signed 6 players last summer. signings help but we have to be smart in our business. i dont think most of the targets we want are available right now. i would hardly consider a 16 year old and this young brazilian lad (0 caps?) to be major signings we are looking for.

no offense but some of you guys sound like spoilt, we spent a ton of money last summer. another club buys a few prospects and some people go on another moan. we will sign players, but it's been said for a while we will most likely do it in the summer. the type of players we want to go for are in teams in europe or otherwise doing well in the league and cant afford to unbalance their side by selling a star.
+4
They are the football hollywood, not matter how harsh they treat you or it may ruin your life, many players still want to go there without second thought.
@Dom1878

tired?

welcome to football

still tired?

then change sports, basketball for example or even curling. yup i think you should follow curling.
+1
Personally I don't care who Madrid sign- as long as it's not a Utd player. Madrid have always had a policy of signing Galacticos, this goes back to the 50's when they signed stars like Di Stefano and Puskás, to the Galacticos of Zidane and Ronaldo R9, to the modern day Galacticos of CR7 and Bale.

Meanwhile Utd in the 50's had the Busby babes- one of the first successful teams to be made out of a core of talented youth players. Then we promoted young players like Best in the 60's, then during Fergie's era we had the class of '92 and promoted young talent like CR7 and Rooney.

As you can see we're two completely different clubs with two completely different philosophies- name me a true world class Real Madrid player that they developed from their youth academy. I can only think of Raul, and he started out as an Athletico Madrid youth product.

Madrid will buy players 'cause that's what Madrid do, they don't create talent, they buy it. Personally I would prefer Utd to develop young talent like they've always done and I would much rather Utd developed players like Ajax and Barcelona, than buy Galacticos like Madrid.
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Jradical,


We make alot of great players
Yes right now RM is the best club in the world, but for about a decade they weren't even in the top 5 and still managed to get players like Ronaldo, Robben, Kaka, etc. There's just something about joining them that is irresistible as player, and it's more than just the club itself imo

If a player is Brazilian, La Liga would be a far more appealing that the EPL, due to several factors. Way more Brazilians play in Spain than in england, the football style is similar to the one they play back home. At RM/Barça, he'd be surrounded by players who share similar cultures/speak the same languages as he does and he'd be less likely to he homesick. Not to mention the weather is much better in Madrid than it is in Manchester, and this would give him the chance to play with someone who's going down as one of the greatest players ever.

But yeah it's frustrating to see how easily they get it done.
@Danny414 Maybe you can name a few that where from your youth academy, or bought very young- 18 to 20- that became true world class talent.
@Badge Interesting read, and I always assumed we are more than a club :) After all we have the biggest fan base in the world, and the number is still growing non stop, so I think we have a bright future, and if we really want to sign somebody we can.

Thing is though: our main talisman was Fergie. You simply just dont say no to him. I am pretty sure, if battles would go between Real and Fergie signing certain player, Fergie would simply have a higher chance due to the fact what person he is.
stuff like this is really interesting:

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/30965338

so cambridge united made all of 1.6 million in turnover last year (compared to our 433 million). they already got 500k just from playing us in the fa cup! and can earn an additional 1.7 million after the replay!

that is kind of amazing how much playing us will earn them relative to all their games last season and even winning two trophies!
+1
Haha, is that the article about Cambridge using the money from our game for their toilets??
They better be shitting gold then.
https://mobile.twitter.com/JBurtTelegraph/status/559793848902516736

Dont know how reliable this is
in other news, utd u21 beat liverpool u21 today. victor valdes in goal. anderson in midfield. powell in attack. mcnair and blackett in defense.

powell scored the opener off an andreas periera freekick. mcnair scored the winner.
+2
Powell is a striker. Never understood why we kept playing him in midfield.
Didn't McNair Score the winner??
lol sorry idk why i got thorpe in my head, it was mcnair and blackett in defense and paddy mcnair scored the winner. he played defensive midfield in second half and really impressed gary neville apparently in his overall performance and goal.
Report saying that psg want to take move for pereira if united still cant get a deal for him..
Januzaj agent also confirmed that PSG inquired about him. Get lost PSG!
Blackett had a stinker of a game was at fault for Jerome sinclair's goal.
PSG should piss off. They moaning about Di Maria now they're sniffing at our youngsters
anybody else missing januzaj of 13/14

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgI56dEUmxo
i m missing the 4-4-2
my memories of 13/14 season is clouded with moyes
He just needs a consistent run of games like Nani needed, but he's unlikely to get that with world class players like Di Maria and Mata along with three top strikers.
sterling is so much better than him...
+2
@ wenrooney - the same one that failed to beat Cambridge united?
sterling has more pace, i think that's about it. passing, finishing, ability on the ball, you name it, adnan is better, but he doesn't have that electric pace sterling has and powerful running. it's why i think adnan will end up centrally. his technique and vision is very good, but he doesn't really have the pace to go by players out wide. in many ways he reminds me of a young ozil but with less pace and vision but better workrate.
@Theatreofdream at the moment Sterling is on form while Januzaj isn't. Once Januzaj get's back on form he'll continue to develop as a player. I see Januzaj more as an attacking midfielder than a winger. Time will tell, both of them are still young. I remember when Rooney was considered a much better player than CR7- who was thought of as a luxury, one-trick-pony player. They developed differently as they grew.
@Sif I suggest you watch the video Luth posted to freshen up your memory about Adnan's pace.
you're going to have to trust me on this one (or not). i never said adnan is slow, but he doesn't have anywhere near a top class winger's pace. his control allows him to accelerate past people but he doesn't have that natural ability to run at people with frightening pace. his technique is why he is able to run at people at all and commit defenders.

had this discussion with prophet a while ago. he is quick of thought and his technique allows him to go by people but he lacks raw pace of a top top winger.
so if we get by mighty Cambridge United on February 3rd in the replay, we will be away at Preston North End (david moyes old club) or Sheffield Utd.

+2
Good draw. All signs suggest this could finally be our year for a cup run. If only we could find a vein of form.
+1
I will gladly go out of the FA cup to Cambridge at home if that is what it takes to get LVG to play 4-4-2 diamond on a regular basis so we can watch good football. I cringe every time I watch United play nowadays.
@kiran- we played 4-4-2 diamond against Cambridge united and still played like s**t. united's issues seems to be deeper than simple formation. Guessing u didn't even watch the game
+5
I've been saying for weeks that blaming our passing issues on the 3-5-2 is just plain lazy, the problems as Gohonaf said clearly go deeper whether its tempo, movement or even confidence etc is still up in the air.

Although long term the 3-5-2 has to go, I don't think its a good system for our players, too many square pegs in round holes when we play it.
+2
Can we get a home draw in the FA cup? :/
I'd still much rather watch 4-4-2 than 3-x-y whatever. I have seen enough of 3 at the back to know that I don't like it. 1 bad outing with 4 at the back is not enough to sway my opinion just yet.
I still think the formation plays a big part, but carragher and mufc1990 is probably right in that the mentality and comfort is more of the issue than the actual system itself. we are too negative with the back 3 and the defense for whatever reason has more of the ball because CM doesn't come out to receive it and build from the back. in a 4-4-2 diamond i feel there are more numbers in front of the defense and we tend to move from defense to attack quicker.

in either case it is really clear we play better with ander in the midfield as he does a good job linking the defense to attack and will show for the ball in tight areas, or constantly move into space, receive the ball and ping accurate passes into forward areas.
The 4-4-2 would have worked fine had we done one thing that we normally did under Fergie- overlapping runs from our fullbacks. Players just double up on our wide men and with no overlapping run the only available passes are long hopeful crosses into the box, pass it square into an already congested midfield, or my personal favourite- pass it back to Jones or De Gea.

The overlapping run takes away one of the players doubling back and forces the oppositions defence to become stretched as they try to stop the overload of attacking players. Without it we're forced to make passing options that are easy to defend against.

Of course, to make these runs we need to do 2 things. 1) not play with a back 3, cause playing with a back 3 leaves only a centre back as the overlap runner. 2) We need attacking fullbacks like Rafael and Shaw. If LvG does this I guarantee that our attackers will suddenly find pockets of space and teams will find it much more difficult to defend against us. The only problem is that our already shaky defence will also become exposed- it's a trade off, but one I think we need to commit to perfecting.
So Lucas silva signed for Madrid. Really tired of seeing these top midfielders go to other clubs for almost nothing.
+3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1421914688&v=VSGRTw2u0UQ&x-yt-cl=84503534#t=45

Pure Class from United. f*****g ugly football. You'll get more entertainment watching the Championship
Them big red ovals, so painful to watch.
for a moment I thought this was this year but then I saw Clev and Welb :P
That hole is still missing...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A8EjaSbZ7Jo

I don't want to create more arguments on Kagawa but what he was doing or trying to do in this vid is how we should be playing, move into that hole, pull away defenders and create gaps. Unfortunately everything did not work out for him and us. His concept of football I thought is very good.

This season, the only player I saw doing the same thing is Herrera, he fills in the hole and link up plays, he is very important.
+1
Thank you for reminding everyone how s**t we were last season. I think this was our worst performance among all those s**t performances last season.
Anyone else on PS4? Finally upgraded. Always up for a match on FIFA 15, if you want to add: x_krantz_x
What's ur views on fifa 15? Imo its s**t and shows that ea have regressed in the past 5 years... Pes 15 on the other hand is amazing, the gameplay is soo much better compared to fifa, thjs is coming from a fifa fan boy haha :p
The only thing fifa has over pes is all the licences and thats it
The last time i played pes was the time they were using fake club badges and fake player name, that was ages ago. Is it still the same?
They are slowly getting the licences for PES but its still a far cry from Fifa.
Its a shame really because PES is a much better game
I think FIFA 15 improved in some ways. I haven't played the new PES so I can't really compare - although I hear PES is improving. But yeah, FIFA owns all thw licenses and that's probably why it continues to have largest player base. Plus FUT is pretty cool. The one thing that I like about FIFA this year is that Legendary mode is actually extremely difficult. You have to defend patiently, master custom tactics, and respond during matches to opposition change in tactics.

I recall some people on here not long ago even saying how they can't play legendary bexause it's too hard. They're right, it's brutal at first. But once you grasp it, then it's a lot of fun. For once there's a learning curve to Fifa.
gameplay with PES is far better, fluid more fun. AI in fifa are clueless at times, still feels aggravatingly clunky overall.
f**k you guys I post the same question up not one response.

Add me SEA my psn is TooRippedToPlay2
+2
U don't command as much respect as StretEnd in these parts
+1
lol f**k u
Added.
Dat psn name is too intimidating man
I'm itching to add DoesntMata with that psn name lol
The only reason pes still exists is because they have the champions league lisence. Take that away and thats the end of pes.
Do it RedDevil98 lol stoned.


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32
19
51
2
4
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47
23
22
45
3
5
14
22
2
42
21
16
37
6
3
13
22
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40
15
21
36
4
7
11
22
4
39
14
25
39
5
6
11
22
5
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32
7
4
11
22
6
36
10
25
35
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6
10
22
7
35
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27
31
7
5
10
22
8
30
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30
26
8
6
8
22
9
29
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27
23
9
5
8
22
10
27
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35
26
9
6
7
22
11
23
-4
34
30
9
8
5
22
12
23
-8
33
25
9
8
5
22
13
22
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29
20
10
7
5
22
14
22
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25
11
10
7
5
22
15
20
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19
8
11
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22
16
20
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36
21
10
8
4
22
17
19
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30
20
11
7
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22
18
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19
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