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I just learnt that nuri sahin is married to his own cousin, I mean WTF? Isnt that haram under moslem law (if he's one)? And doesn’t incest marriage have a very high risk of producing disabled babies?

but cant really blame him, his cousin is very cute
First of all its Muslim not moslem .

And no , who told you it's haram under Muslim religion ? infact you will find lots of arab marrying someone in their families , it's more of cultural thing then religion .

And ya risk of complication in such marriages are higher but in gulf it's a law to have a medical clearance from health department before marriage and its applicable to everyone regardless of couple is family relative or not
its not haram im islam.but islam do teach to try avoiding it
@malik

1) in my country, which is the world's largest islamic country, we call it islam or muslim, but I thought the westerners here called it moslem, anyway not really relevant to my point

2) no one told me, that's why I was asking, I just thought muslim is very strict regarding these humanly needs (although they allow polygamy)

3) but medical clearance by no means can guarantee your babies will be normal right? so in a way it's useless?
Medical screening can't prevent genetic disorders occurring from having intercourse with close relatives. All genetic screening can do is tell you if there's a high risk your child may suffer from some of the known genetic disorders. Marrying your cousin isn't a good idea as it increases the risk of your child having complications and also weakens the immune system of your offspring.
I heard Chinese people do that for generations and there no problem with it, but correct me if I'm wrong I'm not Chinese lol
http://www.football365.com/f365-says/9581853/F365-Says

Agree with them. He has been sorely missed.
trivia: world legend Ronaldinho may soon be playing for Kabuscorp (a team from an Angolan league)...

just why? i believe he's still good enough to play for at least a mid table team in europe
I doubt he will be going to Angola. He just signed for Queretero and apparently the club and manager don't mind his lifestyle away from football.
The Angolans look pretty desperate for him though
The 3 pitch invaders from the Spurs game were from a youtube prank channel lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZBtLpT2fhE
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/11259428/Manchester-United-news-Luke-Shaw-could-miss-rest-of-year-with-ankle-injury-as-United-injury-crisis-grows.html

Not looking good for Luke. Might be out until 2015 :'( I think I'm going to cry...
Thank goodness Rojo can play LB
Don't worry, we have Young.

In all seriousness, I rather Rojo stay at CB.
Lmao I was thinking about who can play as LB. There's Rojo (Injured), Evans (injured), Blind (injured), even Reece James is freaking injured. Who else, Blackett can play there right?
How unlucky can we get? Shaw out for 6 weeks would mean he'd miss about 8-9 games including the Liverpool and Southampton games.

3-5-2 it is then I guess :( we should never have sold Fabio last season. I knew it'd bite us in the ass eventually.
it's not so much about who's going to replace him...

it's more about how the injury will hinder his development... he is one of our brightest prospects, could be world's best LB in the future and not playing for one year is definitely not gonna help with his development...

the last thing you want as a young player developing is that you are constantly hit with injuries so it's like taking 2 steps ahead and 1 step back...
James is on loan now. It's either Young or Blackett for lb spot. 5 or 4 at the back is another question.
Either Blackett would play lb or we would play 3 at the back and have young at lwb.

Reece james is going on loan, right now I don't think he's quick enough or a good enough defender to play LB in the league.
Oh right I forgot about James going on loan.
@Theatreofdreams, luckily he isn't out for a year mate. I think we'll hopefully see him back in early January. But you're totally right, constant injuries can really slow down a young player's development. Let's hope Luke can stay fit after he's back..

We will have to wait foe LvG's confirmation I guess.

I really don't want to see 3 at the back again :(
Why did we loan out Varela to Real B, this could have been his chance to shine. I can understand if its a proper La Liga team, but playing Real B is no difference in playing reserves for us and we can play him as first team anytime we want.
+1
Edit: What I meant to say is that sucks.
I think lvg will start with back four by putting blackett on left nd smalling nd mcnair as cb. 352 wont suit us against hull cos they gonna sit back nd defend so v need more attacking play to penetrate their defense. Nywys hope to see wilson starts.
Wilson to score against Hull again!

3-5-2 won't work, diamond will be suicide, so I guess we'll be seeing 4-1-4-1 again... but with 4-1-4-1 we only managed to score 1 goal per game. So hard to decide /o\
To be fair, with the 4141 we manage to get around 20 shots per game if we disregard the City game where Smalling got a red card.
ADNAN vs blackburn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAQCYjHpnT4

the boy is just way too good for the reserves. if he had a bit more pace he could be getting into the team all times as a winger this season. going to be a beast CAM though when all is said and done.
ROTHWELL vs blackburn

and this boy can finish cant he? two top drawer finishes from this kid. really stamping his authority on the u21 side with the performances too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAQCYjHpnT4

we have got a lot of talents in the reserve side (perriera, harrop, rothwell, pearson); i wonder which ones will make it. real shame we were out of the COC. maybe we get some easier targets in FA cup and they get a chance.
Dammit SIF won't you tell us who you're talking about? Always so mysterious! Fine I'll open your links :p
I think AJ11 get order from lvg right?i mean under lvg he play more organized,the way he pass ball to mates when or not to run at defender..under moyes he gott more freedom,he will go straight to beat defender..
Meanwhile Tottenham fans have invaded the pitch THREE times during the first half of their game. I mean it's the EL so everyone doesn't give a damn but still. Unbelievable.
A truly sad sad day for English football - its image irreparably tarnished and its scent forever doused in excrement - their true face has been shown. They sit as if in a theater in their home country but cause havoc when they go elsewhere.
This makes the insult that much worse - treat other people's countries like a garbage can - i feel a lengthy (at least 10 year) sentence in prison should teach them a lesson.
10 year sentence. Wtf? You need to chill out man.
20 year sentence! Don't push me cuz i'm close to the EDGE..im trying not to lose my head uh huh huh huh huh
lol ok ok. I don't give a s**t about the Spurs anyhow.
f**k it. Let them get 30 years.
+2
^ at least!
40 years for being a spurs fan:D
FC Barcelona confirm Thomas Vermaelen is to undergo surgery & will be out for 4-5 months

LMAO imagine if we had bought him,like it was not enough with our current injuries already.

They buy him n he misses a season.
Which is why I was so glad he rejected us. If we got him I don't think we would have gone for Rojo either. Unfortunately I think hummels is very injury prone as well so we should tread carefully about who we target in the summer.
yup,thank God for that :P

1)Verthongen might be a good deal,but we're dealing with spurs here.

2)Garay is one,he wouldn't cost us a lot

3)Pique,out of the pecking order for Barca,could agree a move here

4)Laporte,highly talented guy.I heard United are scouting him.But,we've too many young CB's already,very unlikely that we'll go for him.

5)Dante,could be that guy we're looking for

Varane-unrealistic,I see no reason why Madrid would sell him.

I don't follow much of Serie A,so no idea on their defenders(who are realistic)

Lol I remember arguing with you about this one SIF during the summer. I really wanted vermaelen. Thank God we didn't end up getting him !
+1
i almost forgot about this guy, well i did forget
Wenger pulled a fast one there...we sold them a time bomb..Fergie would say it's like selling them a virus
Anyone watching Europa. Here are my picks

alborg vs Steaua 2
HNK vs standard liege 2
Celtic vs Red bull 1
Spurs vs partizan 1
Astra vs Dinamo Zagreb 2

Thoughts?
Wilshere out for 3 month.
Does Arsenal players rehabilitation takes place at their local rivals Chelsea's medical center? If yes,I totally understand why their players get injured in mass.

In short,two word,Eva Carneiro ;)
+1
I was amazed he got up after the challenge and tried to play on, it looked like his ankle snapped in two directions. If he was red carded like he should have been, he would have missed 3 games not 3 months
+7
Paddy McNair injured him.
+2
He twisted his ankle while he went down because of McNair tackle.
Not McNair's fault tbf,McNair had no contact with Wilshere's ankle.

Sure it was McNair Somere?

I could have sworn he got stuck between Fellaini and Carrick.

I would like to mention that Carrick took the ball cleanly if my memory is right, no one went in dangerously on Wilshere he is just so committed when carrying the ball forward he ended up getting crunched.

I actually found myself agreeing with something Sourness said for once when he mentioned Wilsheres playing style is making him pick up more injuries.
+1
Pretty sure Somere is right, poor McNair tackle
It was a pretty rough tackle, got ball and a little too much of Wilshere as well.
And I thought he got lucky not to see red.
Guess I was wrong.
+1
wilshere was clearly tackled by mcnair... it was a harsh challenge... not given a yellow was a surprise, let alone free kick to arsenal...
http://youtu.be/xKMX9XGqhZI

Ouch...
holy sh*t that looks awful so he actually hurt his right instead of left ankle, which means paddy didnt play a part, he just fell himself


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