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best of luck Rafa


wished you'd stay
Sucks to see Rafael go
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players sold/retired/released since fergie retired (18):
vidic
rio
evra
rafa
fabio
fletcher
anderson
cleverley
zaha
rvp
nani
giggs
scholes (retired with fergie)
welbeck
kagawa
henriquez
buttner
bebe
(macheda, keane, thorpe, amos, petrucci, tom lawrence, janko etc)

bought/signed (13):
fellaini
mata
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blind
rojo
di maria (and now probably sold)
herrera
shaw
*valdes (probably sold)
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schweinsteiger
depay
darmian
schneiderlin
*romero

promoted/new deal (6):
januzaj (moyes)
wilson (giggs/LvG)
blackett
lingard (started 1st game but got injured)
mcnair
periera



+3
new era

it better works, LvG...
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so much for continuity, what a massive turnover! it's a completely new team almost. really sad to see rafa go...same with evra rio giggs scholes etc.. but for me it's just a shock to see the younger lads like rafa go. felt like he would be here for ages.
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You need just as much talent as you do heart. I'm not saying those who left of are leaving are not talented, but they don't offer as much as the new comers do anymore. Although we lost a lot of leadership from previous years. But I'm pretty sure we will have a few players who will come up and become the leaders of this new generation. Looking forward to the season, I'm sure we are not as behind as we think. Can't wait for our first game !
http://thepeoplesperson.com/2015/08/03/man-uniteds-fantastic-transfer-window-set-to-get-better-111454/

20m net spend. sad about rafael, hope he does well.
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Goodbye Rafael! I honestly feel sorry for the lad. He can be one of the best RB when on form.

All the best Rafael! Don't forget Manchester United fans still have your back bro! Play hard!
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i love rafael. gonna miss him a lot. look at the caption of the pic he posted on his instagram during the moyes year when everything was going into shithole:

https://instagram.com/p/fr0PjStV-6/
+4
Yeah he is a proper red, he just posted this on his facebook and it made me feel terrible:

https://www.facebook.com/orafa2/photos/a.829400483785819.1073741829.827172784008589/961324420593424/?type=1&theater

Regime change has derailed him, was really making progress under Fergie but its LVG's call, would rather he was the one competing with Darmian rather than Antonio "hit the first defender with every cross" Valencia but just got to swallow this one I guess.
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This is what i call respect. Farewell to you Rafael.
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I am not convinced that a player like Rafael had to be let go. Very disappointed in general. He may not be as good as Darmian but he could be the best RB in the league when fit and on form. Also, Darmian is not tested in the league yet. The better thing to do would had been let go of Valencia and keep Rafael.
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yeah one of the players who truly had the passion to play in red. he will make a name for himself going forward abroad, just hope he can stay fit.

Lol anyone wanna guess how little we sold him?
+3
a true class act.
+2
2.5 million is the reported fee, what the fudge
+3
I always liked him, even if he screwed up at times. Great passion and great desire to always go forward. It's a shame.
I wish him well and all and I respect the passion he showed for the club but I was always scared when he was defending with even a half-decent player running at him or a half-decent team passing the ball around. He would get caught out of position, he would make rash challenges, put the team at risk, collect fouls, possibly cards and possibly injuries, and lastly, put the teammates around him under pressure. Talent is one thing, I don't know if anyone can really quantify 'talent'. Well, at least not without looking at results or something.

He may have been talented, he may have been blessed with skills and physical ability but man his decision-making always made me nervous. The same thing that sometimes bleeds into his actions and gets classified as 'passion' was the thing that I sometimes saw as 'hot-headedness' and brash. I'm happy to see him leave. He can play elsewhere, make a name for himself and entertain the lucky fans of his new club but I feel slightly relaxed in knowing we have Darmian who seems a lot more solid in defense and has the speed (and gumption) to make attacking contributions as well.

Even last season, I was annoyed at Valencia's attacking contributions (or the lack thereof) but I knew the alternative was Rafael or one of our CBs playing out of position and so I sought solace in Valencia's defensive solidity.
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Why is LVG using that money from ADM transfer and putting it on Pedro. Dude just buy Otamendi or whatever decent defender.
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because we need better attackers more than better defenders.
They'll be more funds available even if we buy Pedro, its pretty unlikely that Pedro would cost us anywhere near the fee we will get for ADM anyway.

Buying Pedro would have no bearing on any move for a defender.
you will get Pedro on the cheap, only 22 million for an established midfielder
@Drogba

Agree, £25 million at the most.

EDIT: Lol, just realised he has a £22 million release clause.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/9933874/manchester-united-have-serious-interest-in-barcelona-forward-pedro

Sky sources saying we're interested in Pedro although no talks have taken place yet.

I guess we'll see.
What do u guys think of Charlie Austin as a bench player behind chicharito
Ugh.
totally agree ...we could even bring him on loan ...and he won't cost much in salary ...
We'll be better off playing Wilson rather than bring in a midtable striker.
+6
^ That's a bit harsh to say about a player who carried QPR last season. 18 goals in the PL is no easy task at QPR none the less. Sorry to say but none of the UTD players apart from Rooney's 12 goals came even close to Charlie Austin's 18.
+2
austin is a beast, has shown what hes capable of playing against big clubs like us/ man city...

i think he'll be a great bench striker... loan james wilson out, and bring him in
+1
If Pedro was to join us, which I think he will. How many goals and assists do you guys think he can give us. I'm saying 15 goals & 10 assists.

I think he can be what Alexis Sanchez is to Arsenal for us and have a storming first season!
very well could, ten goals and nearly that many assists would be a very good return. not sure where he'll play though if LVG is set on memphis as #10; does pedro replace mata? or hopefully young?

or would the arrival of a first-choice winger put mata at #10 and have depay and pedro on the wings?

i don't think we've seen mata at ten with rooney alone up top ever since mata arrived.
Depand on what position he play here especially with lvg in charge.but bfor that lets confirm first whether he join us or not.lol
sanchez was poor at first for a few months, i remember arsenal fans doubting his quality. i think pedro is similarly skilled but less phyiscally built for this league, i dont think he will adapt right away for some reason.
He is no Sanchez.
As things stand I would prefer Mata Or Depay on either wing than him.
Yeah, all of a sudden since Pedro's been linked to every big English club people overvalue him. He's never been as good as he was 3-4 seasons ago (except for Spain) and 15 goals/10 assists is like a best case scenario. For a winger that's tremendous and Pedro's more likely to get half of those stats (which would still be pretty good).
he's no sanchez but even mata got 10 goals last season despite not always being a starter. i think pedro can do better since he's a better finisher and a little quicker/sharper in the box
I think he is very weak for the epl I think 6 goals 7 assts
Pedro will do well at UTD, ^ Pedro aint no Cudrado
15 goals is big ask, kobe's prediction seems more likely.
and to be clear i'm talking about in all competitions, not just premier league.
Perdo is different to Di Maria I think. More motivated than him and think he will suit in LVG style.

Both footed, Pace, creativity & able to keep the ball. He will be great for us. Confident he can get lots of goals and assists.
+1
^ AGREED
Will have Pedro over young anyday. For 22 mil it will be a brilliant deal.


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