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so as much as i hate mou, the fellaini sub makes sense in context. at the time, lukaku was standing on rojo and dominating him in the air, obviously fellaini was meant to help with that.

the troubling bit of this is that it was a fairly typical performance otherwise during the match. created very little and came unstuck at a bit of pressure.

the sin for me was not playing mata - i think he's been our best player so far this season and when you need to keep the ball and break down a stubborn defence he's your man. not sure why he wasn't even on the bench. he doesn't seem to get injured at all.
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Because Martial and Mikhi had to start. no more room for Mata
week in and week out it will be the same s**t. we were pushing for Mkhi to start and he did and lets be honest he was pretty poor. Now we wish Mata had started, Carrick, Martial etc...

Pfff this whole team sucks.
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When was Fellaini ever good defensively in the air for United? Most are fooled by his height when most of the time he's losing his aerial duels unless he elbows his opponent.

That's the problem with United these days, we lost good aerial defenders in Vidic and Rio and we thought signing Fellaini will help us defend set pieces. In reality it hasn't, I cant recall him being even good offensively in the air for us like he was at everton.
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sure convert Mata to Striker, or bench Pogba or Herrera, sometimes you need to do sacrifices in order to win.

But to be fair we have no big issues in attack or midfield. We have leak in defense. Conceding 1 goal like that every game is unheard of.
whats absolutely baffling is the fact that while tree failed to do his job on a number of occassions, there`s a player who vanished during the last weeks from the squad although he already showed that he is able to do that job even better and even in a number of different positions.
i miss tofu in the squad and cant find a single reason why he is not asked to play more.
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I'd rather play Fosu-Mensah or Sean Goss than that tree. If we are going suffer like this, I'd rather play youth and suffer like last season, because its making no difference when the seniors keep making mistakes a youth would make.

Still raging.
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Some of Mou's choices have been highly questionable. How can you even decide to put a decorated player like Basti in the reserves yet keep giving chance after chance to a shitcan buffoon like Fellaini?
This is probably the last benefit of doubt Mou should get if Fellaini is ever seen with the first team again I'll just assume mourinho has lost it and is no better than moyes on current form (despite stats saying that already)

I think the club is handicapped by successive managers who don't have the balls required for this job. Fellaini should have been shipped out long ago he just isn't a man Utd player no matter what he can do or can't

And there are huge problems in the defence too if Bolasie and Lukaku can turn Darmian inside out repeatedly and burn him for pace then real world class players like Messi/Robben etc will write Darmian's obituary. Just not good enough at this level
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Damn the amount of negativity in here is making me sick. Do you really want to make Mou the scapegoat for Fellainis error? If Fellaini won a last minute header against Lukaku everybody would say that the sub was spot on. Yes our position doesn't match our ambitions, yes we still lack some balance but at least I don't f*****g fall asleep during our games anymore! But have fun thinking that Mou has lost it after just one bad season, he will make you eat your own words.
He will make you eat your own words? To be honest, he's not the Jose we're used to. The man turned into a s**t manager.

Look at the amount of Money he has spent mate, look at the position we're in and think about the statue on this club. Dropped 8 points in the last 5 games! not the red devils I'm used to. We need to employ someone right for this club. Bring back the fast counter attack, the crossing play, the switch of play, the last minute winners, the comebacks. Not happening for us at the moment.
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^^If it were not happening so often i would agree with you man. But it's now 6 draws. 6 games thrown away so easily. We can blame the refs, the opposition whatever but its own fault and mainly Jose. What was the use of bringing Fellaini in ? Why was he defending on Gana ?

Jose has really lost it. Football is not about scoring one goal and sitting at the back now. Even if you have a 2,3 goal lead that means nothing. We had a good example with the liverpool game yesterday.

How many times have we set back after scoring the first goal. I don't know if you have seen Etoo itw on Telefoot yesterday. He was talking about Jose. He said he is different. He is not the same person who was in charge of Inter and he added a football team cannot defend 90 mins.

I happy i'm not falling asleep too but man when the final whistle blows, i think it was better to have fallen asleep instead of seeing this stupid result again and again.
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Right, I won't be surprised if you called him a genius if/when we go on a winning streak. Its pretty easy to see how some of the players are f*****g it up so badly at crucial moments with glaring individual mistakes, not sure how the manager can control that.
we will turn ourselfs in Arsenal fans if we actually get winning streak and somehow get in top 4 while blaming Jose all the time.
What's more infuriating is that s**t still having a big smile on his face at the final whistle, despite of the fact how he let his team down. No remorse!! f*****g clown. Absolute garbage.
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Burn that tree, sack the s**t one.

Never been so upset since the chosen one rolled over to City
+3
I blame fking Moyes for buying him at the first place.
f*****g tree did it again, was out of the team for a while, got brought in just to do that. f*****g shit.
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Fellaini is an atrocity committed upon this club. He's had so much negative energy and connotation attached to him since day one. He'll always bring us down no matter what.
Oh and Mourinho...smh
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And he cost the same money as Alexis Sanchez...
Don't forget he was a panic buy
Tree is s**t, we all know that, but what was Mou smoking bringing that s**t on. All Mou's fault.
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I 100% agree with what Garry is saying in the video above. That's exactly what I mean. This maybe a team full of bottlers.
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Neville was spot on. Fellaini may be terrible but for that specific situation he was the perfect player to shake up Everyone attack, clog up their midfield dribbling to force them to pass out wide and also physical enough to help defend the likes of Lukaku AND Fellaini would be unencumbered by the atmosphere as he used to play for Everton and knows how some of their players play and their tendencies. PERFECT substitution just Fellaini is not mentally tough enough as seen by his mistake. Saw a Zlatan interview on United TV a week ago and him saying 40% of top flight football is actual skill and physique but the rest is all mental. This team is not mentally tough enough to handle the red devils Jersey.
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The teams above United this season: When they are on top of in the game and dominating teams they make sure they score a lot of goals during that period.

However United: Dominate teams,score 1 goal, miss a couple of chances, and sit back in the last 20 mins to concede a late equaliser.
Hope this is a made up sh*t...otherwise, gonna cost Jose his job and United this season...

‪ http://www.90min.com/posts/4217351-video-jose-mourinho-appears-to-sniff-coke-on-the-man-united-bench?a_aid=40837‬
That link doesn't work. Googling the keywords doesn't return anything.

EDIT: Nevermind. Found it. Not sure why I couldn't get to it from your link.
Well that explains why he always brings on Fellaini!! Only someone high on drugs would bring on a pile of crap.

Even worse he leaves on Zlatan who's keep dropping deep instead of taking him of for Rashford because Everton started pushing further forward.
lol cant be true....he was just sneezing i guess
I don't expect anything else from Mou haters.
lmao wow.
Lol whats next... please also post a video of him shooting people in the dugout Tony Montana style
@Kiranpmody...They removed the page/link...It must be made up then...I hope
Cjay is very resourceful. He always finds a way to fault Zlatan for all United's downfalls. It's actually getting comical now. If Zlatan scores a hat trick but let's say Valencia scores an own goal, trust Cjay to be able to attribute another players own goal to Zlatan.
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Gotibra I can't take comments seriously especially if you're fanboying over a player. Zlatan scored goals but still missed over 10 clear chances for United.

If you took your rose tinted glasses off you'd see how ineffective he was in the second half. Everton played a high line and he kept dropping deep to receive the ball. If you see my comments here I criticise every player because I'm United first. There's not one player I didn't give fair criticism too when they didn't perform.

De Gea is my favourite player but I did point out in the last game that he's made so many mistakes this season compared to the previous ones.
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Memphis to save us
My rose tinted glasses are off. Why do you think he needs to keep dropping deep to GET the ball buddy? He's one of the most successful players in this generation. You think you know how to play center forward better than him?

If you couldn't answer my previous question the answer is lack of quality service....

How are the other forwards doing? I don't hear any criticism of Rashford or Martial from you.

Here's a link that will help you out

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/top-scorers

Do you know how much worse off you'd be without Grandpa?

I can't take YOU seriously. Last game Zlatan scored then DDG parried a shot back to the opposition which resulted in a goal and you blamed that goal on Zlatan for not putting away chances earlier!! Lol! Blame DDG or the defenders for ball watching but you blame the guy that put the team ahead and all the TEAM has to do is preserve or extend the lead.. it's a recurring theme this season. Look at my link again and see that no other forward is scoring. The blame can't be laid on one player. You blame him for everything even when I see Martial, Rashford, Rooney, Pogba all missing sitters also but the difference is they aren't scoring goals to make up for the missed sitters.
Zlatan scores, United concede, Zlatans fault. That's all I see you comment. You're a joke.
You want Zlatan (8 league goals) to come off instead of Martial (1 league goal) when you yourself say they shouldn't sit back and should go extend their lead. If you want to extend the lead them leave on the forward most likely to score not the guy with one goal in 14 games. You go against your own logic.
i saw the incident live on the telly. it does look suspicious but really there are more likely explanations
Haha seriously Zlatan missed chances that cost us points and you can't deny it. His arrogance hasn't helped at all, when he was at PSG the goals were full flowing so he could boast all he want.

Right now for every goal that he scores he misses 2 good chances every game. What the current issue united are facing now? Finshing their chances and there are other players who missed chances too but not the amount that Zlatan has and on the wages he's earning he deserves criticism. Like Rooney, Blind, Rashford, De Gea, Martial etc.. and the rest of United's players when they're not performing. Tell me what contribution did he make to that game against Everton other than scoring? He kept coming back to our midfield and we wer short upfront.

If you were a regular on footy tube you'd know I've criticised all those players you mentioned. Rashford was at fault for the goal against Arsenal, he also missed 1v1 against West Ham and Martial was in poor form and deserved all the stick he was getting. Rooney before he picked up form was criticised so just because Zlatan is your favourite player doesn't mean I won't criticise him for his missed chances. Those missed chances are the difference between 3 points and 1 point. In all the draws we've had in the league so far he's missed a couple of chances apart from last night against Everton
TOday, we can finally say goodbye to top 4. Realistically, the only way to get into champions league is to win europa league at all costs. I wouldnt mind doing so bad in epl and winning fa cup and europa league. We are just not good enough to finish even top 5
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The soon return of Shaw, Smalling and Bailly will change the deal big time at the back with our formidable ever reliable Valencia (love the lad). I'd love Fosu to definitely be groomed to stay.
Midfield I hope Mou wakes up, smells the coffee and promotes Bastian and Morgan to rotate with Pogba and Herrera.
Up front hopefully Mou shows the balls like SAF did to trust our youngsters more in Rashford and Lingard (who's constantly proving me wrong I am glad).
The rest is good enough TBH once Mou has sorted the defensive middle; love how Rooney showed desire the past 3 games, Martial growing in confidence, Mata, Mkhi & Co doing themselves reasonable credit.
The team only problem slowing them down is the dead wood we must ditch in Fellaini, Young, Jones, Rojo who imo MUST go this next window.
Jones actually had a decent game dunno why everyone is slating him for the defeat it wasn't as if he gave away the penalty
+2
I thought Jones was superb. Rojo is also playing well lately.
Darmian has been better than Shaw this season I feel. He is back to his best. Jones has always been good but his injury record is just too poor.


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