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Guys,

I was thinking about transfer business from city compared to United. And Mou vs Pep and who is the better manager. United (Mou) got a lot of stick for their transfer business.

United spending since SAF retiring. = 611.8 million pounds net= 437.25
City Net spending same year = 723.85 million pounds.
546.5

Mou spending = 295 (net spending 238.2)
Pep spending = 380.85 (net spending 323.05)

You could argue city were still "building" a squad when saf retired. But fact is that we're in a total "rebuilding" phase that started with LVG. And we still spend less then our neighbors.

Pep inherited a intrinsic better squad, has spend more and won nothing.
I had so many discussions with friends who are big Barca fans. That Pep is the worlds best manager there is. I really think the guy is a joke and cant even be compared to the likes of SAF, Arsene, Klopp... Offcourse if you got the best squad its easier to win. But what makes managers great is to acknowledge that you have a "weaker" team and adjust accordingly. SAF, Mou, Klopp, Arsene, Scolari, ... have all done it. And won trophies with players that were "weaker". The moment Pep proves himself without inheriting a team like Bayern or buying a totally new squad ( when he inherited a very good team at city!) and wins a trophy, he will have proven himself for the first time I believe!
If he doesn't win anything this year. He is over!! pressure is on!!

Anyway, I really think Mou did some great business and we will win a major trophy this year! And not as much pressure as Pep

(PS: Not a barca hater at all!!) Zidane is just the same at the moment. Great at managing the worlds BEST team at their prime. Respect to that not that easy. But different.
So I read that Julian Draxler is for sale? Should we go for him?
He's not a winger is he ? We probably need rights winger the most atm
I see him starts at LW a couple of times for PSG? We were after Ivan Perisic and he plays LW/LF.

Good thing with Julian, he's a lot younger than Perisic and Bale.
Think he is a hybrid winger for PSG, but a natural no. 10. We got Mata and Mkhi and we are forcing them to play wing most of the time.
In attack we should only try to sign players who are at the very best level, because we already have good attacking options. Is draxler better than mata or mkhi or martial? I'm not so sure
SAF after final defeat: ''Great teams go in cycles and the cycle they (Barcelona) are in at the moment is the best in Europe, there's no question of that. But how long it lasts, whether they can replace that team at another point...they certainly have the philosophy. Can you find players like Xavi and Iniesta and Messi all the time? Probably not. But they are enjoying the moment that they have just now.''

The man is a visionary. I think it is RM cycle now. Just look at their team. So much talent and depth that even players like James, Morata can't make it.
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Barca seem to be in quite the pickle atm.

Sell Neymar...buy Paulinho. Insanity
Paulinho for 40 mil, Spurs reject, crazy shiit
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RM will come on top again next season,even without ronaldo they have depth in most positions.
If Barca gets coutinho and dembele they are back on track. maybe not this year but for the remaining seasons. 2 amazing talents.
There midfield is complete s**t. If you want to know what a team plays like with a s**t midfield but without Messi carrying them just look at our past few seasons
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I could easily name 5-10 clubs who have a stronger midfield than us lol kinda sad tbh
Will real madrid find another Kroos and Modric??
Kroos is only 27 and he doesn't rely on pace so he got plenty of time to play
They have Kovacic, Ceballos, and Isco. Zidane is already building the future squad
Real Madrid are stacked for at least another generation. All you gotta do is watch Isco play - he is something else.

Currently, Modric has developed in possibly the best midfielder in the world (when not injured).

And even without those players (or Bale or Roaldo) they brushed aside full-strength Barca with ease.
Madrid is in the same situation as Barca were in that final with lots of potential young players.Xavi was 29-30 in the finals and Iniesta too was 26-27 at that time just like Modric and Kroos are now atm.Have they managed to find a replacement for xavi in last 3-4 years?? Have they found a solid replacement for the ageing Iniesta yet? No.

Next 3-4 years is a long long time. All those promising players might leave or get sold and Madrid might just get left with some deadwoods just like Barca are.

So, time will tell.
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All this talk about real Madrid minutes and no mention of casemiro. He is just as responsible for all the good at Madrid as are kroos and modric in my opinion. He wasn't a mainstay at real until zidane came in and he found a spot for him. Madrid has been a Juggernaut ever since.
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I think it's because you can find other players of Casemiro's calibre but it's not easy to find some one like Modric.
Plus he always delivers the big-game goals
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Madrid could 3-peat
The Kroos-Modric midfield too strong

Just wait till paulinho is ready for them.
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madrid are miles ahead of all the other teams in europe. too much depth and talent in that team.
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Swansea sold their best player to Everton ahead of Saturday's game. Gylfi always found a way to score against us.
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It's ok. I'll take a 4-1 win. Not every game needs to be a clean sheet.

#PartlyJoking #PartlySerious #WishfulThinking
He wasn't going to be played anyway if he was not sold till later on. He missed the opening game because of the transfer
They used to be our bogey team until last season when we eased past them away from home. The only issue was when we drew against them later that season it cost us our top 4 spot
^That free kick though!!
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/40954441

Don't you dare Jonny
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another 50 M incoming
Evans + Otamendi + Mangala + Stones lol 120m and counting

A CB a year seems like City's spending policy.

Like Pep's boss screaming "I dont care who you sign, just give me a CB by the end of the window!"
yup. the legendary "spending strategy" 50m cap
F u all lol if this happens I will trade my Silva picture for a Jonny Evans one
^ i really hope you buy him now :P
Also, note that if we do buy him, he will suddenly become a 'great ball playing defender' in my eyes. Not to mention his FIFA ratings will rise. So again, screw you all. This is win win for me (i think)
Definitely win win, dude :D
Stones-Otamendi-Evans. It's win win win
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Really? Thats f**king jokes , hide your center backs quick everyone
City are gonna have an impenetrable defense with Lord Evans at the helm.
But as they say, give me 10 good men and i'll impregnate the bitch
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lol brilliant
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Long time guys. Did not have a chance to talk about last week's games. Massive statement from United (obviously early days but I loved what I saw). Also good to see Hart and Zabman plying their trade.

If nothing else, Pogba seems like he will be taking charge this year. Matic was very impressive. You either love Mou or hate him, and I think Matic seems the kind who will run through a wall for him.

Also, Lukaku's touch can be that of an ostrich at times :P but not when he is trying to score with that touch. That pass from Rashford was delicious and the finish even better, followed by the all too familiar despair on Hart's face.

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Do us a favor and don't win the league again, Tomi :)

The best thing about Lukaku is that even if his touch isn't stellar at all times, he's such a decisive finisher that it hardly matters when he's in on goal.
We winning the treble this year. #yolo
His poor first touch sends ball flying into the net
I say we go with the three man midfield for Swansea away. I really want to see Pogba in that system.
that will likely be our default away system to give stability and control to our play
Wouldn't mind but that would mean dropping Mata or Mikhi
Or Rashford
So one more signing? It would take us to the next level hopefully. We look like a complete squad but we are missing an out and out winger. There arent many options though if Perisic is not coming.
the whole griezman situation is such a shame he could have totally elevated this squad to the next level but hopefully we can get him next summer or maybe costa joins atletico in january and we can get him then.
Griezman release clause is £170 M , I doubt you would of signed Lukaku if you got Griezman
It was €100m this summer and Utd could have signed him but he didnt want to turn his back on AM during their ban. It is now increased but only until next summer. Hopefully he will be a red then
Griezman buy out clause is still the same it hasnt changed
We already have Rashford and Martial on the left. Where are you guys expecting Perisic or Greizman to play? Doesn't make a lot of sense in my opinion unless we are changing the formation fundamentally. RW or LB is probably the position we can improve if Shaw is not getting back to form.
He has a buy out clause near 89 mil pounds or euros.. that is cheap for a world class player. I will be very disappointed if we don't get him next summer.

Greizmann can play on the wings or behind the striker or as a striker. We need more goals in this team.

We were at our best when we had players like Rooney, Ronaldo, Tevez, Berba, Nani, Giggs, Park. People tend to forget how many world class players we used to have. We need that competition and yes some of your favorite player might not play week in and week out but that competition improves the team and first 11. We are still nowhere near good enough compared to our best.
If the club has to become a European power again we should have a world class player for each position and then some on the bench. Look at RM, Bayern, Psg squads they are stacked. For 89m Griezmann is a steal, I thought AM wanted 150m for him
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dunno if i would say we have super strong options at fullback and we possibly need another winger
+1
Greizmann has a release clause.
I see your point about having a great bench but that also creates uneasiness among players. Mikhi is playing behind the striker and in big games, Pogba would probably play there with Herrera to support Matic. The way Rashford and Martial are playing at this age is extremely good, it's only going to get better. I just can't think of a way to accommodate all our best players if more player in the same position join that will significantly improve our squad.
We will have 50-60 games a season, that's enough games to rotate the squad.
The best part of Rashford and Martial is that they can play just about anywhere in the front third - as wide forward on either flanks or even as a classic CF.
although Martial I feel is best deployed on the left flank.
Seems to me that he has upped his game, he is keen to drive at defenders and has the skill /pace to beat them
Hope it continues
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Fergie-era teams always had a quartet of options basically for each position. And, usually, he had high-octane options up front. He made it his job to keep them happy, vested in the squad and they found a way to deliver and play their parts.

No reason why that couldn't work in today's day and age. It is difficult to pull off but that is why you pay a premium to get the high profile manager.
Maybe you can make a case for Griezman but I just don't get how we would accommodate Perisic without affecting Rashford and Martial's growth. Mind you he is not cheap and I am not convinced that he is significantly better than the other two, if at all.
+1
Griezzman release clause is 200m only for this summer. it goes back to 100m in january, which when Athelticos ban ends
Lukaku should be the first United player since Van Persie to break the the 20 goals mark in the premier league. It's shocking how we haven't had a striker score that much since RVP. That's one of the reasons we failed to even mount a title challenge since Fergie left.
+3
ibra probably would have if he didnt get injured, but yeah that's one of the main reasons we've been nowhere near competing for the league title. not enough goals.
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