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its rough losing to those clowns and i watched the game again and my thoughts are we didn't play well especially first half but the players let Mou down rather than the other way around..we have young players especially in attack and they weren't helped by the experience of Herrera and even Matic. Herrera was a disgrace with his his antics that he needs to cut out right away. but overall the occasion got to the head of our young guns upfront and that was the main reason the game was lost. city will slip up. we had our blip they will get their. we will close the gap by 5 to 6 points i believe by end of January.
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and please stop bashing the players like Lukaku. He needs Pogba and he will smash them in again soon. he needs confidence and overall the team to click. Look at Morata for those who wanted him..he is already feeling the rigorous nature of the premier league. in some aspects he might be better-agreed but we have the better guy, 100%.
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Im not giving up on Lukaku. According to dreamfooty on this site he has the best points in goals and games played and assists in the premiership. But even with Pogba he wastes about 3 chances per game. He just takes to long and tries to hard.Its like he is giving the keepers a chance to get right in frt of him. JUST HIT THE F******g THING>
The only player who delivered every game is Ashley Young. Everyone else including Lukaku needs to show up more often. Rashford and Martial too, one good game and disappears for the next two. High hopes for these young lads. Need consistency.
So what happened in the locker room:

Mourinho heard the city players celebrating and mocking us. He went to see them and said they have no respect. Ederson and Mou start to raise voices. City players throw water and milk on Mou. One MUFC staff went to tell the players what's happening.

Rojo, Valencia, Shaw, Herrera, Rashford and Tuanzebe all go to the visitor locker room. Kompany gets out with other city players and start a brawl with the United players. Arteta is injured with another bottle.

Around 30 persons were involved in this clash. Carrick went to calm things down and ask United players to go away.


Now it's really becoming interesting hehe
Like I said, City thinks they already won the tittle. Long may that continue.
why Mou go to the rivals dressing room, that was never going to end well
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Yeah wtf why getmad if they are celebrating? You know what would have been the best way not let them celebrate? Beat them, simple as that.

Any team in the world would be celebrating if they just beat their biggest rivals and most importantly the second place team and went 11 points ahead.

If anything Mou should have called his players and made then to listen to City celebrating and use that as motivation.
^ That sound like something what SAF would've done. Like when Sunderland fans mocked us for losing title on the final day, SAF told the players remember this moment and it became motivation to the players next season.

That would've been the classy way to do it. This is no street football, need to act professional.
Yea I mean you guys are entitled to you opinions of course but cmon boys. Big derby match lots of implications, deserves celebrations. My team in college has certainly celebrated for much less, and that's not uncommon. Mourinho shouldn't have gone to the city dressing room plain and simple. And yeah the city players seem to show a lack of respect when he confronted them but he's the same manager who all week was calling the cheats and a lucky team.
No disagreement on that. he should not have got involved.
I dont remeber anything at OT or Etiad last year...still a little sore but i thought there was something in having some humility in a win...you know, sportsmanship.
Sure. Humility in victory is fine. The tough games like the ones we've had recently with late winners and dramatic finishes deserve joy and celebration. It's why you play the sport, it's fun and enjoyable. I'm not sure what people can be mad at City for in this really. They beat their rivals in a derby and made history and they celebrated for that. It would have been the same if united won. The only mistake here was mourinho going to the other Lockeroom.
Funny how 1 match can make you feel lousy whole damned week
Especially Sunday game when you jump straight to work next day with no time to recover
City already have 46pts they cant get relegated now
What if they hire moyez?
Then surely the treble is theirs
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quadruple*
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Septuple*
sextuple*
Now wonder Mourinho loves Fellaini, he's turned out team into an expensive stoke city. Start a decent line up yesterday but resort to hoofing the ball before stringing few passes together.

Even worse we have a striker who can't hold up play and he has a poor touch. So Mourinho deserves criticism more than anyone else.
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lukaku looks lost in our defence. I mean, what was he doing there? A striker ought to be up front.

Mou shouldn't have asked him to defend set pieces where he is much more of a liability.
I like defending my compatriots usually, but Lukaku REALLY should have done better. Strikers too have the brains and surely the skill to clear the ball to an area that's not crowded, right?
On top of that he missed the equalizing goal, flattening Ederson's poor face (the PL has not been kind to that man's face) instead of placing the ball in the back of the net.
He is defending because of his size I think. But he should have done much much better in both occasions. In the first header he heading to down rather than clearing. Look at the chance he got at the end? His confidence seems like lost and it is a big test for him now.
Wtf?
Apparently there was a huge bust up after the game and arteta had a broken nose. Didn’t see anything on tv though lol. I thought pep and Mou exchanges handshakes after the game
Now FA are waiting for a report on the incident. The last thing we need is more suspensions. We still won’t have Pogba back for 2 more games
Where did you read?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/romelu-lukaku-leapt-man-utd-11675368


https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/890740/Romelu-Lukaku-Man-Utd-striker-Man-City-bust-up

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/man-utd-brawl-man-city-14022033
Apparently City were celebrating like they already won the league. I saw pics of their locker room and the only thing that's missing was the league trophy. I hope they keep that up because that's the only reason they might slip up. Thankfully premier league trophy is not handed out in December.
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Yeah apparently Mou went to there dressing room which what started it.
Mou is an idiot sometimes. Someone threw milk at him too lmao.
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No broken nose from Arteta. He pulled a Zoolander and stopped the bottle before it hit him with his John Stamos good looks.
You guys were so lucky with Sevilla, same with City and Liverpool.
Yes it's a good draw. This is champions league football, no guarantees. We should make it to the next round though.
Glad we couldn't be draw with Basel either. They seem to always f**k us. Funny that's spurs got matched with last year winner in the Cl for the group stage, now they have to face the runner up.
BearWithFish you can't draw Basel until QF . you guys were from the same group .
Except Chelsea all English teams got a good draw. If Chelsea can take the trash out it will be an English party lol
I’d say spurs are favourites, Juventus are in bad form and spurs beat Real Madrid too
City a walk over, really
Liverpool should also be going through
Juve are a great team and Spurs beat a Madrid side that was bang out of form. I think it will be Juve who comes on top but I do hope Spurs qualifies.
Chelsea and Spurs have equally tough draw...dont go by stupid Eng pundits who have over hyped Spurs because they beat Real once.
@Obin ye thats what i meant.

Both Spurs and Chelsea have some hard fixtures around that time as well
Yea We will play City and United in between Barca game.
If some think I'm too harsh on him I've been commenting every now and then on this forum about how he ONLY scores AFTER a teammate has scored...bar a couple games this is the facts...look it up.... And then the goals he scores are like 1 meter from the goal. TRASH! I'd take Vardy in a HEARTBEAT.
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No way, I would take Vardy over Lukaku. Yes, he has been poor the last 13 games but so was pogba for many games last season. Also, I think Lacazzet is overrated. I haven't seen him do anything that tells me he can lead a team to the tittle. Good to compete for 4th place. I can see Lukaku finishing this season with 25 goals. Yes, he will need to be more consistent but that's hardly a bad return for a striker. He will come good. I'm sure of that BUT I do agree that he need to improve massively if we are to win tittles.
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Fair, but Vardys pace matches Radford and Martial. The counters would be lightning and Vardy is not wasteful and has scored some blinders on his short time at the top flight. I can't really remember any goal from Lukaku that says "golazo" or even some basic long rage shot outside the box. He's a big bulky wasteful Chicharito kind of player except I don't see little pea as that wasteful. Lacazette has not been impressive you are right but has anyone from Arsenal been impressive? If I were of no football background I would think Ozil and Sanchez were mid table players by the way they play at Arsenal recently. Put those guys on a good team you unlock they're potential (Ozil at Madrid he was literally being compared to Zidane, Iniesta etc but now?.....) Pogba at Juve and Pogba at United is almost night and day because he had better players around him. He's still a great player but theres a reason he plays better with Carrick or Matic as opposed to with Herrera because those 2 playets are better than Hertera so the work load is decreased for him which lets him be free to do his thing better. Put Messi on Brighton he'll be nowhere near as prominent as he is now just look at his international form almost a completely different player. Not the best example but you get what I'm saying.
Pretty classy forum here. Can't believe no one is going nuts on the fact that Lukaku is the sole reason the game was lost. He had 2 assists...this is solely on him. If a player scores 2 goals to win a game the player gets the credit not the coach (and likewise the player who assisted gets credit for setting up the goals) so why is this now Mous tactics or injuries the reason? City aren't basing their win on Mous tactics or that Pogba is out but that Silva and Otamendi scored off of ONE players mistake. Lukaku needs to switch to Rugby or something because that is not a football player. He did pretty well playing basketball against Pogba preseason though. This team can do better with all the money they have. I thought for sure Mou was going to get Lacazette as Greizman was no way leaving. Now Atleti are sub par I think United HAVE to get him at all costs. Greizman would fill the void of a world class #10 AND a world class #9. And hes French along with Martial Pogba and Bailey (Ivorian but French speaking) so chemistry is there especially with Griezman I see they are best mates. Lacazette and Greizmam and I believe problems solved. There well be no need for the defenders and midfielders to be scoring goals before the striker in every game anymore *cough Lukaku* I mean, OK you're not a natural defender but as a #9 at least hold the ball when you get it don't keep losing it forcing the players to keep defending then they all get tied and that shot right at the keeper!!!! Then Mata shoots right at the keeper right after!!! Lol. Lingard my MOTM today he played his a$$ off. MOTM for city was obviously Lukaku.
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Man now this is getting serious lol


Juventus (ITA) v Tottenham (ENG)
Basel (SUI) v Man. City (ENG)
Porto (POR) v Liverpool (ENG)
Sevilla (ESP) v Man. United (ENG)
Real Madrid (ESP) v Paris (FRA)
Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) v Roma (ITA)
Chelsea (ENG) v Barcelona (ESP)
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* City has got a walk over
* Glad either Madrid or PSG will be gone


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