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ADM's 20 min today was worrying, should we keep the lad ?? top class for sure , but is he an EPL material

and Januzai , what is going on with his first touch? rusty at best, send him on loan if not planing to play

are we really sending Tylar and James out on loan next season??!!
Whole team was shite mate, not just ADM.

ADM hasn't started in weeks neither, he is also rusty, the lad needs another season before we entertain any talk of offloading him, he is world class when on form.

I've mentioned this before but he finished the season 3rd on PL assists with 10, just behind Cazorla on 11 (he got two today in Arsenals rout of West Brom) and Fabregas on a whopping 18.

But Di Maria has only started 19 PL games this season where as Cazorla has started 32 and Fabregas 33, both Cazorla and Fabregas have played in better performing sides this season as well.

My point is that even in a mediocre season he still has a solid amount of assists, yes he has not been great but the quality is there.
I agree that ADM should be given another season.

BUT...it's a huge risk. He'll be 28 next season and another underwhelming year could see his stock plummet. And say we realize that he just doesn't fit in, we could well lose 30+ million or worse, we could see him run his contract to the ground and then move back to play in SA for free.

Idk. I think it wasn't the smartest transfer to begin with
First of all its far too early to be fretting about him running his contract down and moving back to SA lol.

That goes both ways though Pete, his stock isn't high atm so selling him this summer likely wouldn't recover a huge amount neither.

I think we can all agree that we overpaid but in the clubs defence he was incredible for Madrid last season and was rightly named in the world 11, I reckon 40-45 would have been about right rather than the 59 we ended up paying.

I disagree that it wasn't a smart transfer, we needed a big name signing, a player that could add pace and give us that something out of nothing edge, he can still be that player for us just give it another season and you'll see.

Its not uncommon for lightweight players to take a year to bed in, if he has an average season again next year then I'll probably be calling for the club to part ways with him as well.
The easiest thing to coach in football is defense.
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The hardest thing to coach in football is character.
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"You train dogs, i like to educate players"
Serious soul searching realisation: Can Liverpool still be considered a big club? In the last 6 years Spurs have finished above them 5 times. Surely if Spurs is not considered a big club then Liverpool now even less so.

*muarf shittier than spurs muarf*
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I think failing to win the domestic league title for 25 years is far more damning.

City have finished above us a good few times in the last few seasons but are not even remotely near our size as a club let alone bigger.
In the last 6 years we finished above city 3 times. So it's a draw form wise. Not comparable to spurs and pool. But I get your point. Titles are ofc the other measurement.
Big club means a lot of things. Different things to different people.

In my opinion, it is a combination of historic success, strong philosophy, loyal and unconditional fanbase and worldwide branding.

Liverpool will always be a big club. Loyal and strong fanbase. IMHO they need an infusion of bandwagoners, some pure capitalist and business approach.

United is a big club because not only does it tick all the romantic aspects of football, but it has historically had a great team which upholds its brand, business and worldwide presence.
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History counts little nowadays Tomi, you should be the first one to acknowledge that. Without recent achievements, how can the likes of leeds or aston villa be considered a big club anymore?

Fanbase is temporary too and depend on today's success. The current fanbase will die out bits by bits and not replace because no one start out following a loser team, unless there is a very strong attachment (city, stadium...), which is not the case for majority of fans abroad. Take the Milan clubs for example.

Branding is also dependable on recent success and number of fans. If there is less and less trophies and fans then they will no longer be able to attract investments, thus dying out financially.

For all those reasons I see this as the beginning of the end for them as a big club.
I think LFC can always be considered a big club but there is no denying that there is a gulf between them and the "elite" of domestic/european football.

Their history alone means that they will always be huge, then you also have the fanbase to consider. There is a gap between Liverpool and the challenging clubs, and its up to FSG to work out how to bridge it and make them competitive again, but I don't think that you stop being a big club just because you're not competing for the title.
Deffy put it nicely.

They are a big club, but they haven't breached into the "elite" category. Think about it- they have 5 European Cups, they should be in that conversation, but they haven't been for 10 years.

Another club who are in danger of following the same path are AC Milan.
https://twitter.com/AlexShawESPN/status/602508254569193473

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Sam Allardyce sacked. To replace Brenda at Loverpool
Taugh love ^^
https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/602521635497910272

it was not meant to be but thank you for your service. I hope he'd get back in form some where else, not in PL, especially Liv
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Yeah I wish him luck as well.

Not worked out for him here but he has been a class guy and has appreciated the support.

Almost certainly means we will go for a new forward this summer especially with Van Gaal refusing to rule out Van Persie leaving.
WTF! Is this punishable if Referee hasn't seen it?

https://streamable.com/pvu2
Retrospective ban for that for sure.

Its caught on tape, there is no doubt at all about the intent.
What a shrewd signing Valdes is. Clap clap LVG!
Afro missing the new season first 3 games will force us to come up with another system during summer. Not bad imo. ADM for LCM! (Please stay fit)
LVG said he's already discussed about the in's and out's and I genuinely hope he's one of the out's,no more hoof balls.
No I dont want him sold actually. Just used as plan B and not starter is fine.
you guys make no sense at all, our football is completely built around fellaini and we have no style without him? thats the rubbish im hearing from these comments.

fellaini missing 3 games isn't going to change the way we play football, fellaini was a tactical out when teams press us high up and we cant play out the back. he's an outlet. when wingers get into crossing positions he's the obvious target because mata and rooney are tiny players.

the problem is this team isn't creating enough chances, especially without fellaini on the pitch, because our strikers and midfield are not linking up as well as thy need to be. not enough movement and passes behind the defense. lvg is obviously aware of that and will try and fix it, it;s shocking to hear someone suggest fellaini missing a few matches will completely change our entire footballing plans this summer, thats nuts.
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Hold your high horse Sif. Why do you think st and mf are not linking well? Cuz Afro is a liability with the ball at his feet. We have thus an asset less when passing forward.

We should learn to relieve pressure without hoofing the ball to Afro, by mastering pass and move. Barca and Bayern dont have an Afro yet they manage to do that AND pass forward.

Having Fellaini in the XI is only making others go for the easy option. We are not going to improve like that. Especially when he is off we are lost cuz not familiar to play without that get away card.

He is indeed an asset with crosses but style wise I prefer a slick passing team. Brain over brawl. And we will never be able to break down a compact defense with crosses.
he's not the reason we aren't linking well, the only reason he's in the team is because no one else has been good enough to displace him. he wasn't a starter all season, everyone else had a chance to stake a claim to replace him and no one else was good enough. we need better quality but you cant blame fellaini for other players being s**t when given a chance.
Exactly. Hence my OP. This summer gives us an opportunity to improve without him in the XI. If we manage to do that then Afro can be our plan B instead. And Im not blaming him for anything, just pointing out his obvious shortfalls, stop being so touchy about him all the time.
Gotta face it man, no matter what he does or how good he plays, the fans just aren't going to get used to a Fellani type of player playing a pivotal role in our attack.
DDG is a goner. It was kinda obvious for me when we went after Valdes. That was a very good move from whoever saw the opportunity and grasped it. He still has a few years and disregarding his bloopers he is quality.
This makes our search for a permanent replacement much easier and less costly.
Lesson learned from the above, never make long term investment on a Spanish player who will one day become the obvious choice for Real unless you want to sell him for a hefty price, in that case go for it :))
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Only if there isnt a club like real madrid exist, our players could have stayed. just saying..lol well i mean i really had enough of our key world class players leaving for the same club to achieve their bigger dreams but oh well we cant do anything about it but to support their decision. We're always strong even without our key players over the years =).
If we can make 50 million out of him or better if we can swap him with Bale, I won't be disappointed. DDG was instrumental in achieving this season goals but he is Spanish and he can always call Madrid home.
Ronaldo wasn't Spanish though was he? Totally agree with your point, any non-English player from the continent will always want to test himself at Real Madrid/Barca if there is interest from the other side. Even English players (Becks and Bale). But if we have quality English players it's easier to hold on to them than other European players.

We're never going to make £50 million from selling DDG, that passed when we let his contract run down to 1 year without renewing it. The negotiation game is completely in the virus' court.. If DDG wants to leave that is.
Yes there is one way that we can still do it. We can ask DDG to do a Ronaldo and sign a contract extension with a 50 million clause on it. Of course we will have to compensate him dearly for that but it's better than negotiating without any leverage.


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GD
GA
GF
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D
W
Pl
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87
41
32
73
3
9
26
38
1
79
45
38
83
7
7
24
38
2
75
35
36
71
7
9
22
38
3
70
25
37
62
8
10
20
38
4
64
5
53
58
12
7
19
38
5
62
4
48
52
12
8
18
38
6
60
21
33
54
14
6
18
38
7
56
-3
49
46
14
8
16
38
8
54
3
45
48
14
9
15
38
9
48
-4
51
47
16
9
13
38
10
47
-2
50
48
15
11
12
38
11
47
-3
47
44
15
11
12
38
12
44
-13
51
38
16
11
11
38
13
41
-9
55
46
19
8
11
38
14
39
-23
63
40
19
9
10
38
15
38
-22
53
31
14
17
7
38
16
38
-26
57
31
20
8
10
38
17
35
-18
51
33
19
11
8
38
18
33
-25
53
28
19
12
7
38
19
30
-31
73
42
24
6
8
38
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