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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xLHdM1rEtg

great vid showcasing Depay's pre-season moments. Just my two-cents, I think we have to give it some time before we say Memphis should return to the wings. There is heavy competition on the wings atm, with Januzaj, Pereira and Lingard all raring to go so placing Memphis in the center isn't exactly the end of the world. He's shown that he can make the role his own, he's shown that he can combine well with Rooney (more so than Rooney can combine with him) and he's shown that he has the pace and power to be a threat down the middle.
he only had 1 freekick all pre-season iirc and against psg. so much pace and movement on the shot!

what i will also say is however good anyone thinks he is from out wide, he wont scores as many goals there. he's not robben..
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@SIF haha yeah love how much power his shots can generate. It's insane and he's so frickin built its hard to believe he's only 21.

I really see him developing in a that Henry-esque player that I've been desperate to see in world football again. He's got all the tools to emulate Henry. Pace, power, technical ability, finishing, composure and set-pieces. I can't wait to see where he develops from here
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Di Maria leaving for 44.2m is shocking considering we paid 59.3m for him and the chance of getting Perdo for 22m (buyout clause) overall it doesn't really make sense because we are not making on him. But I guess because of Di Maria performances last season PSG weren't willing to pay more than what we spent on him and considering how much Di Maria wants to leave we have no other option but to accept that kind of fee from PSG. Overall I'm upset Di Maria is leaving but if Perdo comes in then it wouldn't be too bad. Hopefully more first chances for Pereira, Janujaz & Lingard aswell.
http://www.footytube.com/video/man-united-s-luke-shaw-sent-3-psg-players-to-the-floor-with-quick-cutback-359732

Lol watch your step around shaw.
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I can imagine Shaw doing a Bale. Honestly the speed on that guy is unreal.
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luls
This might be a bold statement but Darmian really reminds me of Gary Neville. This lad is going to be an amazing signing for us!
Well he is technically much better than Neville. Also faster. So i don't think it's that bold at all
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So i just saw the extended highlights cuz i missed the game. Couple of things in noticed:

- Darmian is fantastic! Easily the best performer so far in general
- Shaw is going to be world class
- Carrick is either rusty or busted. Either way thank god we got Schneiderlin
- Rooney needs to improve asap. Or this system doesn't suit him. Or something...but not good either way
- Depay is good
- Pereira needs to be a part of the first team
- De Gea's dick is in Madrid
- Jones is still an idiot. When will he improve? When he's 30?

Overall not a bad performance. Two silly goals to concede and i think Mata's goal was marginally onside and should have counted. Depay should have scored.
So i don't understand the doom and gloom
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i think the doom and gloom comes from no attacking risk, which is definitely part of LVG strategy as he doesn't want the team getting beat on open counters. that said, he needs to put the pieces together so we have a functioning attack, not an experimental one that favors the veterans. rooney is getting treatment like RVP last season, bring him on in the last 30! or create a different system that accesses his strengths, like a CAM who will play him a ball when he makes the final run.
Agree with all the above, Rooney and Carrick need to find something by next weekend else they probably shouldn't start lol.

Darmian and Shaw will be a sight to behold in our full-back positions in the coming years.

ADM leaving could be a blessing in disguise, could bring both Pereira and Januzaj into the fold, both have got big futures ahead of them despite Januzaj's s**t season last year.
i was shocked by the performance de gea gave. i know its preseason and all but you can tell he wishes to be elsewhere. wish romero is actually able to challenge him for the first team so we aren't so dependent on him. if that is what we are to expect this season from him then we might as well put van gaal in the net. I agree with u on pretty much everything though. I want to add that we definitely need a cb though blind at cb is not a something we should be relying on. It will be as problematic as valencia at rb. I would be shocked if this window closed and we have not even attempted to fix these issues. if the major players we want wont come, a team the size of untied should always have potential replacements lined up.
How did you conclude that Rooney needs to improve and Depay is good from the PSG game?
Rooney has needed to improve for half a decade now lol.
He didn't do all that bad but his touch is still heavy, he overcomplicates things, his overall game isn't up to par...he's no captain either.
Depay...so silky smooth and skilled. He'll be a star.
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Rooney played ok but faded off towards end of match, possibly because we replaced our team with youngsters and an even more shaky defence.

It would be harsh to say rooney did badly but to say he needs to improve is not unreasonable. that perhaps is him dropping deeper towards end of match with our shaky defence unable to cope, so let's attribute it to the team performance instead.

defensively we made horrendous errors at times. Twice DDG, jones, and even carrick back pass which nobody picked up ad became a PSG thru ball.

If our defence was even somewhere close to what we had with ferdi and vida at their prime, you wouldn't see rooney having to drop back because we be able to play it out of defence.

In other words, poor defence> rooney having to drop back for ball> wasting his energy. But no inspiration from him ytd night.

U need instances like this where he did last season:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYOpE8FhtwQ (against city)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk_TH-Jst60 (against newcastle)

you can tell that the captain gave up ytd. But it's a friendly so i will cut him some slack.
lol prepare for some serious salt coming your way CC. Rooney is seen as untouchable by many fans no matter how bad he performs.
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I didn't say that Rooney doesn't need to improve but to say that he needs to improve from watching last nights game is imo not a very good assessment. He looked fairly sharp in the first 60 minutes and then started to fade along with everyone else because of fitness. Memphis on the other hand had probably his worst game of preseason. He still needs to learn when to release the ball and when to dribble. Too often he takes too many touches.
And by worst performance I don't mean he was BAD either. I just mean that he still needs to learn to play better with his teammates.
Rooney is an enigma. Clearly we're not getting 20+ goals out of him, we're not getting the leadership that a captain should bring to the team, we're not getting a clinical striker.
He's capable of all those things but he rarely shows it these days.
Is it his fault or the manager's? Impossible to tell.
I like Rooney just sayin'
rooney is a b-list player, end of.
I'm not sure if I agree with the captain part but only time will tell for the other stuff. He hasn't played up there consistently in quite a while so I don't think anyone can really say for sure how it is going to work out.
From an outsider's perspective, United fans have an incredibly inconsistent and dramatic opinion of Rooney.

For example, when there were rumors of a Mata/Rooney swap, most United fans were talking about how Chelsea would need to throw in a substantial amount of money on top of it. But then at the same time, many were talking about he was passed it. Then, during the season he was able to put up good numbers even when played out of position.

I would still take him today, and I really wish he joined us back then.
i wish he joined city in 2011 tbh, he's been shite since then and would be warming the bench.
Except for some of these United fans, every other team would have Rooney! Sometimes you don't realise the value of things unless you lose them...I really hope Rooney proves all you folks wrong this season
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@kgb - at the time Roo was our only 'world class' player (other than RvP who has having an injury plagued season) and selling him to a league rival would have been really stupid.
I maintain that he's not half the player he once was. Only sporadically
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Why is everyone bashing rooney??

Even your so called world class players, Di Maria, FLacao and RVP(one season wonder for us), they all flopped. But why is Rooney the only scapegoat?If all these superstars playing in their natural position can fail so badly, Rooney,who was asked to play in multiple positions, how can you ask him to come out scoring 20+ goals playing as a DM at times?

Sure, the old aggressive, robust Rooney's gone (lad's almost 30 now), but he did show the old glimpse of himself when he scored the goal against Spurs and setting up for Ashley Young against Newcastle, wrestling and battling through the defenders.

Yes, it is human to forget your old toy when you get these new shiny toys.
what im wondering is this..how does LVG practice making incisive runs/passes? does he at all? it seems like every other team has players fluidly moving off the ball, passing and moving into space, and our players look for safe(?) options playing it square or back. i know we need to build a rhythm and chemistry amongst all the new players we have, but it seems like our attack is lacking a cutting edge that has defined so many good teams. it was the same way last season, the only thing that changed the strategy is certain players (herrera, mata, di maria) who look to be doing even less of that.
Am I the only one who thinks selling ADM is a mistake. I mean we certainly don't need the money so why will we sell when even LVG admitted that he wants speed and creativity upfront something the ADM offers.

This article puts it well.

http://thinkfootball.co.uk/would-selling-angel-di-maria-be-a-big-mistake-for-man-united/?

I just don't think there are players readily available who can replace him and selling him after just one season could prove costly.
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I personally think it's because ADM does not give a s**t. He never wanted to play for us anyways and the money spent on him was far greater than on De Gea so that we can play the same stubborn game.
Unhappy Di Maria = s**t Di Maria and that's not something this club can afford.
So Woody is most likely cashing in
Was really excited when we got ADM and I'm gutted he is leaving but I'm with Pete on this, we were just a temporary club until he could get a move to PSG, FFP stumped it last summer but not this summer.

But if he leaves for anything less than like £45 million GBP I will be pissed especially given how public their pursuit of him has been, Blanc needs to stfu talking about it in public along with half the PSG squad, you'd think it was already announced the way they're talking about him.

Really gets on my nerves, no class at all from the oil clubs, they pulled this s**t when pursuing Januzaj as well before he signed a new contract, f**k PSG.
Honestly i had tipped United for the title tilt keeping in mind AdM stays. This puts the club back in terms of challenging for the title.

IMO United should seriously launch a bid for either De Bruyne or Isco. That little spark is needed upfront to really complete the outfit. Hell, maybe even poach Moura from the french club or try to get the unsettled Gotze from Bayern.

I think the CB problem is a little less pronounced than the creativity one now that AdM might be leaving.
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That is one of the issue in selling ADM there are no feasible replacements available currently. There is speculation that we are after Pedro, he is good but not as good as ADM.

I would be gutted if he leaves since finally we have a midfield that looks complete and if he departments we would again be lacking in that department. That would be an issue on top of the defense and striker positions.
Either he is a liar or his translator should be sacked. He really did s**t on that number 7 shirt. Forcing his way out, or refusing to fight for his place really is a disgrace to the fee/backing and belief/shirt number he was given.

At any rate we should sell if he wants to leave. Recoup was much of that fee as possible but we shouldn't sell without a replacement and Pedro is not a replacement even if he would be a good addition
Tomi - No way Real will sell Isco...I mean they dont have a reason to sell an young Spanish super star, KDB is more realistic target
Yeah doesn't look like ADM is a very good person at all. He has showed zero character.
Therefore he could never fit BR's system...lol

He was never a good fit for us anyways and if we don't sell him now for a respectable fee, we're set to lose a lot of money on him. Every paycheck he collects from United is theft.
Theft against the club, fans and owners.

Btw i agree with Tomikato. Moura is a good shout! Especially if we're taking a loss on Di Maria...might as well demand a player in exchange and Moura could be good
That is one thing about ADM that I do disagree with you on Pete.

I think he was a great fit if he really would of gone for it here, not sure his heart was ever in it, I think there was a lot of hype when he arrived but that didn't carry through for long.

I think his position at Real Madrid became untenable last summer due to the falling out with Perez and the board over a new contract and he was left with few options after it became clear PSG couldn't pay the fee, as I said above we were a stop gap, SiF is right, this whole situation has been a disgrace.
He isn't giving us a choice in the matter. Even Van Gaal has said he wanted him to stay. United doesn't want to sell him but we have no choice. there is no point in keeping a player who doesn't want to play for you no matter how talented. I say charge as much as we can get. WE hold all the cards. its psg and di maria who has to meet our demands in this transfer. Di maria has done nothing but prove what real said about him to be correct
Someone say ADM is a bad person? This video agrees with you:

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What if we get Zlatan+cash for Di Maria and then play Rooney behind him and Depay on the wings in the current system? Rooney will drop deep to get the ball anyway. So let him be part of the connection between our midfield and attack. Prior to last season most people thought the number ten role gets the best out of him. But now everyone seems to think he's better off as a striker.
What if the rumored sum is part of a player swap deal anyway? I don't think it'll happen tho. Because LVG has mentioned several times that Rooney will be our main striker. But thoughts?
Think that would be a great signing if you get Zlatan.
He may have lost of pace but his agility and creativity is still among the very best.
If Van Gaal can control his Ego and let Zlatan do his thing,you are looking at 20+ goal contribution from Zlatan including assists.
I'd rather we get someone younger than Zlatan from the psg squad if a player is included in the deal, but from a commercial point of view, the club will make a killing if Ibra signs for us.
Ok so the resume of our friendlies are like this:

- No Blind at CB
- Midfield combo Herrera, Bastian & Schnederlin is best
- Depay on wings
- No more Rooney as striker


Right ?
Depay was pretty decent in the no10 role prior to this game. And Rooney is a great striker on his day. He just needs to be very consistent throughout the season which we haven't seen very often.
Only agree with the first one. The only way depay plays wide is with a 3 man cm and we haven't seen that yet.

Carrick must start. sweinsteiger still needs to adapt. Most impressive so for is Schneiderlin. darmian was great, very close second.
no more rooney as striker? you want him back in midfield? unless u want him out of united, he has to stay up there because he is a hindrance in midfield. only agree with the first point


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