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I haven't been on the forums much, so I'm not sure what is the general perception here, but on the radio and in the local papers our win against Pool has been hailed as nothing short of 'sensational'. I'm not sure I entirely agree. But what I will say is that in the first half we played better than any other time at Anfield that I can remember in recent history (I consider it proper LVG football). Over the past 10-15 years, I can't recall us dominating the ball in such a way against Pool (as we did in the first half). Even the best SAF sides rarely, if ever, accomplished the height of performance that we did in the first half (second half another story, but what a chip by ADM and what a volley by Mata!).

What I find exciting is the thought that we can still play better. As good as we were in the first half, we probably all agree that there is still room for improvement. To think we still haven't even come close to peaking is amazing. I don't know if too many predicated that we would essentially push aside Spurs and Pool in the manner we did. I just hope from now till the end of the season we continue to improve, and really build some momentum going into the summer/next season. With a few key additions, I continue to have faith that the core of this squad is good enough to challenge on all levels.

Mata, Felli, Herrera and Young all deserve an honourable mention (De Gea is an obvious). I've also been extremely impressed by Blind. But how about Carrick - a coincidence our form drastically improves upon his return? I think not!

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I'd agree that it's more about the way we went in to Anfield and handed it to them. Even Gary Neville said on live TV that it was the best start to a game at Anfield that he's ever seen by us... and that's impressive considering the teams he's played in, the manager he played under, and the trophies we won during his tenure.

I'd add that our away form hasn't been great this season, and we turned it around for one of the biggest matches of the season.

Also, we were coming off a brilliant performance against Spurs, and the question was- could we carry that over? The answer was a definitive yes, and I'd challenge us again- can we carry these performances through the international break and secure a top 4 spot? I hope the answer is the same.
when LvG said he needs time, he really meant it... we are starting to see the fruits of his labor, thought and system

we have seen under him United playing in various different formations, players playing in different positions, different players play together week in week out, all are part of his process of understanding the club and finding the best system..

the most important part of the system ultimately is the players' confidence, you can have the right system but without the confidence, it won't be transformed on the pitch, the players won't deliver... that's why LvG was frustrated that his players kept passing the ball back to the goalkeeper... it wasn't his instruction, he asked the players to keep the possession, but it's left to the players' creativity, vision and confidence to play the ball... if they pass back to the goalie, it means they are still playing under pressure, it means they dont have the confidence yet... but now confidence has started to build up and we have seen that against spurs and liverpool....

we are on the right track... with a few additions on our midfield and defenders, we will once again become a major force in europe
@theatre, i honestly think the players are the one that needed time, lvg seems very comfortable and clear with his vision and everyone says he is super strict. i think we are finally seeing him find the right balance with players that understand what he wants them to do and are in decent form. i guess in a way he needed time to find his best team, but i think it's the players mostly needing time to figure out their well-defined role in the team and how the boss wants the team to play. when you hear interviews from herrera saying exactly who can take risks in the team and how not to show for the ball all the time etc tells me the guy really has a strict way of playing each and every position.

what worries me is when players come back and everyone is fit. some egoes will need to be sacrificed for the betterment of the team and that process makes me a bit nervous, as i feel some players will go straight back into the team and will unbalance the side yet again.

@joey and stret, i can only really recall one game where we seemed to boss it at anfield (for most of the game) in recent years, and i think we lost that game 2-1 and it was in the fa cup. seems players get overwhelmed by the occasion and we usually play like crap.

i'm excited to see how long we can keep this going as the end of the season is near so we don't have much longer to do. we have to beat villa convincingly and i feel good about city in a couple weeks. just crazy how the games will be coming thick and fast, we have just beat two top teams but have 4 more to go in city chelsea everton and then arsenal again.
when I see how Mata and Fellaini are developing form , I almost forgave Moyes , especially when everybody wrote off the tree man from day one
I don't know if we wrote him if from day 1 per se. At least for me it was more about the price we paid for him.
nope

fellaini debut was highly anticipated and a lot of fans also wore afro wig...

fans were also excited with the signing of mata...

moyes was rather mixed but a lot of people, including the skeptics, were willing to give him chance...

credit to LvG for being able to turn our worst performers around (fellaini and young) and offloaded those without prospects (cleverley, anderson, etc.)... credit to the players as well for never giving up

i'd say the next few weeks will be very exciting...


can not wait for the next game , hate international stupid breaks,

hope none of our players get injured!!
To double Theatreofdream I must say again the very fact that we ain't seeing Anderson's big belly and fat ass sitting on the bench collecting his fatter than his arse paychecks is one thing I am eternally grateful to LVG about.
LVG ain't SAF but he is the best we could find based on our club's profile. Perhaps some could argue about Mourinho, however to me he was always Chelsea's.
If he gives us 5 years, Giggs will take the helm from him having matured on the bench and we shall thrive for another 100 years.
i think people underestimate the club when they say giggs can just become good enough after spending 3+ years as an understudy. given the profile of the club, giggs should go elsewhere to build his experience, get his feet wet, achieve success, and then come back and manage.

this isn't some mid level club, to manage utd you have to be one of the best if not the best in the world if we're to meet expectations. pep guardiola did at barca, but i'd say that's a rare phenomenon as he had such a clear style of play and he had the talent and vision and team to put forth his ideas (after the clearout even)- and even pep managed the barca b team to success before he was given a chance at the real team.

there's no question ryan knows the club inside out and knows how we should be playing football, but i dont think he'll amass the experience to handle the dressing room, tactics etc by being someone else's assistant. not the same type of pressure and expectation and probably not the same type of planning either.
You answered your argument yourself SIF. Giggs ain't a newcomer in the business. He saw United of Sir Alex practically from day one. Now he has taken the job next to LVG imagine the pool of experience he will have gained after all the years.

One can imagine that Sir Alex himself tailored him for the job.
You might be right he may need external experience, but in long term considering our club profile he is the best option we have. But as you said if Pep could do it in Barca I see no reason why Giggs can't do it in United
nah mate that tailored by saf stuff is just fantasy, ryan got coaching experience but not necessarily management, just look at how successful phelan and rene meulensteen have been since they left and they were as close to being tailored by fergie as you can get given they were his assistants and coaches.

imo, no, ryan needs to leave here and prove himself before getting an offer, just like anyone else.

i mean can you say with any confidence giggs is a better manager than moyes? or any ex player turned manager like bruce, hughes, blanc? except maybe blanc, i don't think anyone would suggest those guys be utd manager any time soon, and i cant see why ryan would be considered better than any of those guys who have actually managed a team and met or surpassed team objectives for a sustained period of time, talk less of won trophies or developed world class players. ryan just isn't qualified as yet, he hasn't done anywhere near enough in the game as a manager to be considered for the job based on merit.

not to say it would be impossible for him to take the hob and be excellent, but it's probably not likely and an unwise gamble on the club's part given the sensitivity of this transitory period.
somewhere in my lines I mentioned I'd give 5 years for LVG tenure in United. No where did I say I want Giggs to take the helm at the end of this season.
Moyes on top of all his ineptitude also had to weather a full scale mutiny in the ranks which he astronomically failed. That's what happens when you do not have the big name for managing a big club.
The main problem with giggs leaving the club is that he will lose whatever his name bears after a couple of years of being away and that would potentially destroy his chances of building up a legacy.
If I were a gambler I would have gambled on Giggs success in United, not now when the team is in transition though. Now we definitely need a big name who can attract big players. But now Mata, Rooney, ADM, De Gea... know that Giggs is their coach and they learn to respect him. This in long term can be a winning card.
One thing Giggs will have no problem with (at first) is commanding the dressing room. All he'll have to do is point at the trophy cabinet.

I don't think Giggs could pick up the reigns today and be successful, but I do think his spell as interim manager last season did him a world of good; he'll already be aware of those unexpected intangibles that come with being "the United manager," the things you wouldn't think of at first glance. I think he even said as much himself.

Though it is a different beast, managing a club full-time. Think of Ole, he knows the club, managed the reserves, but still struggled at Cardiff. Yes, it's Cardiff, but still, would he have found success here?

I think Giggsy will get the job at some point in his career, no doubt about it in my mind. Whether it's after LvG, after a spell at another club, or perhaps after another spell as assistant under another manager here, I can't say.

One thing I will say is, after the Moyes appointment, there's no room for sentimentality when choosing our next manager. I think we'll have learned our lesson, but the best man for the job (both short and long-term) should get the job, simple as that.
@pioneer, i'm not really seeing a difference between 5 more months vs 5 more years as an assistant. he needs to go out and manage as the #1

@joey, yeah i don't know how i missed ole. he won trophies in norway, came to the EPL and got relegated :(. he resigned in september and now he's back in norway coaching kids. if there's one player who studied sir alex meticulously with the eyes of a future manager, it is ole. it's not so easy being a manager, and a successful playing career obviously doesn't mean a successful management career. from what i've seen anecdotally, most of the best current managers were average players at best. giggs deserves and will get a fair crack but i think he may need a decade of experience first lol.
Just realised, the Scottish wonder kid Ryan Gauld, who was linked to us in the past have joined Sporting Lisbon. After spending half season in B team, he finally broke through into first team and received motm in just his second senior game. He have 6 year contract with 60mil buy-out clause. With that contract alone, Sporting seem to be very confident in turning that kid into a world class player and then sell him for big bucks.
They dub him the Scottish Messi.I'm fed up seeing each promising talents labeled either new Mess/Ronaldo.Why don't they let them be themselves? Lol
@karthik24

it's a passing on game, next maradona, next pele, now next messi or ronaldo... when these new talents have made a name for themselves then it's their turn that their name will be used when referring to next new talents
The next Nani! Wait... no one can compare Nani!
No one other than Bebe, maybe. ^^
seeing the 2 videos: "Nicole: No one will remember Gerrard's red" on this page and all i can think of: cuz they will always be talking about that slip :D
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lol well i dont think i'll forget seeing this for a while:

https://youtu.be/LX7-gmaSkvE?t=42s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1k8fRs51Oc

look at de gea celebrate infront of the away fans at 2:26..he seems very happy with united's change in form especially away from home.
Such an important win to show our spirit. I also like how each player took turn carrying up Mata like Simba
wow unreal goal from fellaini, with his left again, curler from just out the box into the top left corner

meh, i think hazard will be man of the match after scoring.

been a decent international break so far for our players, hopefully they stay fit and build on their confidence.
Great goal but hardly unreal tbh.
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it's unreal cuz it's Fellaini lol
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no it's unreal, i couldn't believe it lol
just watch the highlights,and i gotta say..that WAS unreal lol..
not only cos its felli,but he did that with his weak foot..how many of our players actually try to shoot with their weak foot? plus that was pretty damn accurate..i can't wait for us to play against villa,our players seem sharp
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btw, looking at their group, what is Belgium doing below Israel and what is Bosnia doing below Cyprus lol, and above them all, Wales! This group is pretty tight and unexpected.
You guys talked up the goal so much i thought it was really something else. I mean it's nice, but not what i expected
fellaini for 2015 ballon d'or
@Shiwa: Belgium drew with Bosnia (in Bosnia), a result that was not unexpected. Then we drew 0-0 with Wales in Brussels (I was at that game) but we dominated the whole game and could've won 5-0 if we just finished some of our damn chances. We then beat Andorra 6-0 (duh) and just beat Cyprus 5-0 too. The games against Wales and Israel (which is this Tuesday) will decide a lot. Israel so far has only played the easy games, bar their recent 0-3 loss to Bales.

The whole group is kind of unsurprising so far. I predict Belgium or Wales will win the group with Israel in the third spot; they have a decent enough team to capitalize on Bosnia's weak performances.
Netherlands have become so poor since Van Gaal left :'(
they were unlucky , Depay and Affelay put a great show
Lol at Italy...how the mighty have fallen
Fellaini scores for Belgium! More to come from our Afroman, he's playing well.
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Called it! Great second goal.
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hate international breaks
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Boring boring weekend...
well fellaini just scored for belgium. left footed finish, inside the box from a broken play. seems a lot of our players are in decent form atm.
We're winning the treble next year. Van Gaal for president
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^ haha I wish
well he scored again, beast finish
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/zlatan-ibrahimovic-born-play-manchester-8938717

Zlatan Ibrahimovic born to play for Manchester United - Schmeichel

I'd rather go for a younger striker but the thought of Zlatan at United is quite entertaining.
Too selfish, too egotistical. We don't need the drama.
+1
Mmm, One last hurrah for Ibra in the PL, well it definitely will sell shirts thats for sure.
If he was born to play for Manchester United he should have done it 5 years ago


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