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So Fellaini has ankle injury from Long's tackle and did not travel to Russia... Just great. Now we are down to Carrick and McTominay as sub.
Don't know about you guys but I think Mkhitaryan has been quite poor this season although his stats speak otherwise (if I am correct he's got 6 assists and a goal). He's always a fraction too late on making a pass and gives away possession in advanced attacking areas. His decision making is not the greatest and so is his finishing. Maybe he hasn't raised his play from when he was in the Bundesliga and he still hasn't adjusted to the pace of the premier league yet. If this continues, I think we should trade him for Griezman next summer but deep down I hope he proves me wrong and raises his game to his potential
No way. He is frustrating to watch when things are not going for him but he is going to probably top the assist table this year and Mourinho trust him now. He works hard to get back and defends from the front. Dont think we need a change there. He does need to limit being lazy on the ball when the team in not doing great.
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Mhki has always been that way; he waits until the last second to make the pass, and yeah this sometimes causes him to lose possession in tight spaces. That's not primarily his function, and I think it's vital to play him with Mata when we play teams that are tighter defensively and harder to break down. Let them interchange, create space on the right, etc. He's best in transition, and he's been outstanding this season when we attack swiftly.
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Its ok with Mkhi, he can have a poor 90 min but still deliver a game changing assist like some strikers do. Also he is never a quitter, he never complained about defensive duty and those are important attributes.
We look so tired in the second half against Southo. hmm..
No Pogba , and Mkhi and Mata were especially poor
Had to hold onto the lead,
So it was sensible to play 3 CBs near the end. no need to fire Mou over this as some fans are claiming lol
+1
Mkhi was not at this best at all haha Lemina wining 50/50 challenge against Mkhi over and over again. So hard to watch haha
Lol this team is reminiscent of the "old" united. This is the stuff of champions.
Even if Mou is correct I will still bash him, he's just got a hatable personality lol. Never liked him and never will. He's our manager I will back him, but I will bash him every chance I get. I still can't forget that he was such a c**t when he was the manager for Chelsea or RM. I am just not guna magically like him now that he's our manager. Call me crazy, but his playing style is not my cup of tea especially when it comes to seeing out games. If today was against a top opponent and he went defensive like this we would have been f****d. I would at least like to fight and lose, not just sit there and get battered. Soton almost scored they missed some chances in the second half. We are very lucky that we didn't finish off our chances and still got away with 3pts. Off to next game. fingers crossed in Moscow.
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^ this is just stupid
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"I would at least like to fight and lose, not just sit there and get battered"

I can't understand this mentality. Like him or hate him that was good management from Mourinho and any other top class manager would have done the same in that game. Doesnt matter how much talent you have in your squad there will come a point in any title chase where one aspect of your team wont turn up. When that happens you have to act accordingly which i would argue was exactly what Mourinho did in this game when the attack just wasnt up to scratch and Southampton were fighting for a point.

You can argue that its "anti football" or "parking the bus" but the truth of the matter is that absorbing the pressure and getting the points yesterday was far more important than going for more goals and risking dropping points in what is probably going to be a very close title race this season. I can think of many instances when Ferguson did it over the years and nobody complained then. Quite the opposite in fact, he was lauded for it.

Besides United have been playing great football so far this season and have been a force to be reckoned with with your attacking presence. I dont think one game is going to change that in the long run. If anything it should be a positive as it highlights your teams ability to dig in and get the result when things arent going your way. Think yourselves lucky, you could be in Liverpools position and have their back 4 to rely on when the attack doesnt turn up.


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Exactly. We went into many games to win just a point under SAF and no one ever complained. If Mourinho wins the tittle no one will remember this match against Southampton.
Even if we threw on some attacking players we was already under severe pressure and that could have been us losing three points. Sometimes you got to protect what you have; I think it was the right decision to play a more defensive line up for the last 25 minutes.

Southampton were all over us throughout the whole second half - had we been a bit more clinical in front of goal and perhaps that half would have not played out in that way.

We can't always play that great attacking football that we have started with this season instead we need to make sure we win these games. You must remember last season where we struggled to create chances and then we ended up scoring only to give up our lead cheaply.
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I just don't get the complaint here. The ability to hold on to a 1-0 lead when maybe you don't deserve to is an impressive and useful feature of a strong squad.
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Remember last season guys. We went up 1-0 and tried to hang in there to find ourselves end of the game tied and points shared. I just really hope we have less of those games because we will try to hang in there some of these games now that Pogba is out for next few games, we have no creativity in that mid...I just hope Y'all are right next time we are in this kind of situation and trying to hang in there. Just don't wanna lose or share pts.

SAF parked the bus or played very defensive successfully in many games, but he had f*****g beasts like Rio and Vidic where we knew that we will be fine observing pressure.


All I am saying there's more chance of losing a game trying to hold on 1-0, where we can attack and try to find a goal to kill the game. We played with 5 in the back last few mins... and for some mins, Rashford was defending lol.
Your logic works the other way as well. Why keep attacking and risk conceding an equalizer that is completely avoidable? Find a goal to kill the game and end up dropping point is so like BR's Liverpool which is a suicide act to me.

I also mentioned it the other day that the 3rd CB was introduced to counter their 2nd striker being introduced. Bailly and Jones were tired at that time and there is a low chance they can contain the extra striker with fresh legs and also a player with record in scoring against us. It was a sensible move.
Most boring game of the season so far. Excruciating to watch. Funny how quickly Mourinho has become the flavour in parts of Manchester, after he in the same parts was detested in the past.
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^ Boring, lmao, you must have missed the Spurs v Swansea game then. If tactics is boring then just watch the highlights, you'll be more entertained then.
+4
Mourinho has already shown he's willing to make attacking changes this season when we are only up 1-0/2-0 if you actually watched our previous games.
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@Northsrteam - You mad bro?
Why there is no more highlight from the match??ffs this is so bad...
I'll post on your wall the link to a site that has AWESOME highlights every time...the only thing i come to FT anymore for is the forums
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If it wasn't for us this site would not exist nomore lol
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Think this is why mourinho got sent off?

https://imgur.com/gallery/2QBC9
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Oh s**t I knew Mou was a clever troll but this one is bloody hilarious lmao
Sweet :) Lovely red card, eh.
great 3 points against a team that looked hungry for most part of the game,defence was solid and jones looked like maldini today .
We got a golscorer in Lukaku and back 4 has been brilliant so far this season we look pretty solid overall.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/11050400/manchester-united-ask-for-cctv-footage-over-romelu-lukaku-chants

I don't understand the issue with this chant but if Lukaku already asked for fans to move on from the chant, it should be done with
The issue with the chant is that it brings up race-based stereotypes. It should not be a consideration that someone thinks they are doing it as a compliment. It should not be a consideration that 'well, it is Football, I am not doing it outside the stadium'. The comment is racist (positive or negative) and there should be no room for racism (in Football or outside).

What I don't understand is why fans are so hell-bent on using that chant when there is a whole pandora's box worth of things they can sing about.
@Kiran - but it is not racist. We cannot be fixated on the words. This way we will run out of phrases to use. This is plain dumb
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It's a crude stereotype but if you're wanting to ban such chants then a lot of other rude chants should also be banned because a lot of songs are hardly family friendly.
"He's our Belgian scoring genius.
We CAN'T sing about his penis.
We're politically correeeeeeeecccccct.
He's offside when erect."
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A large penis is as much of a stereotype for black people as a large nose is for Jews. You replace that chant (or Dan's version for that matter) with one for a Jewish player and it becomes anti-semitic. Why is one not OK but the other is OK?
You are not supposed to say 'Jews', instead you are supposed to say 'Jewish community'. You see what I did there? Am I supposed to consider you racist now? Of course not, because you may not have even known that. In my parts here in the US you don't directly say 'Jews'.

My point is, being racist or not is in one's heart. No words can change that. Lately a lot of folks have been fixated on words rather than the intent. Tell me if you really think the chant is racist?

IMO the chant is not completely politically correct, but it only means that Lukaku is a badass, that's all. In some years we won't even be able to call him a 'badass' cos there would be some implication with the arse for all you know
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^ Implications with the arse? Lmarseo!
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Like I said before, he has really big feet, and you know what they say about guys with big feet. He just happens to be black as well, so we cant use that because their are people out there that get offend and expect everyone else to walk on egg shells.

What some people don't realise is, that by going to war with racism, you just make it worse. In time with love and acceptance, the compromises needed from everyone to live in peace, will come and fear will be no more. Or so I believe.
@Tomikato, consider my crass use of the term as a mark of my ignorance. I apologize and will be sure to not use that term and rather stick with 'Jewish'.

Do you see what I did there? I acknowledged a mistake and vowed to stand corrected going forward. Alternatively, I could have easily gone down the path of saying how it isn't racist or offensive. I don't get to decide what is offensive to you. I get to decide what is offensive to me. That's it.

The point here isn't what is considered by everyone as racist but rather what is considered by anyone as racist. Technically, one could argue that using the N-word isn't racist as per members of the KKK but (thankfully) that isn't accepted as a valid argument to allow the use of that term. Just because the Lukaku case isn't as egregious shouldn't be a factor.

I'm not buying your 'slippery slope' argument because people arguing that this is racist could also use the same argument for how allowing this chant will slowly make other - more obvious - racist comments seem OK.
This chant is a joke, a friendly one, with no other intent but to emphasize what a tank of a player Lukaku is.

Your comparison with the 'N' word is not commensurate. This is about a big dick, not being called the N word. To be fair, who says that this is a stereotype for black people? And if it is - it sure isn't used in a negative way in the chant.

My counter argument to you, Kiran, is that because fans chant this lil poem they have made for Lukaku, it does not make them racist. If they used the 'N' word, yes, i would completely agree with you, but this is benign and innocent. If we start calling regular people racist - it completely dilutes the word itself. There would be nothing left in terms or words or feeling to call out those jerks who are really racist in their hearts - we will just be acting out at the wrong people.

The bigger question would be - what does Lukaku think about the song - that's the only thing that would matter to me if I were chanting the song. FYI I don't chant the song - i do think it is silly but I also think it is not racist

At the end of all of this - we do agree that we are all against racism - that's what it sounds like to me.
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No you can't call him black. He's African american
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lol african american? like... the guy from belgium..?
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*Belgian with Congolese roots, you racist bigots!

These chants ARE slightly racist, but if those aren't allowed anymore, we better not say anything funny at all then. Because all jokes poke fun at something and someone might get offended.

Pretty sure Romelu actually kind of likes the chant; he loves to be seen as a beast. (is that racist too?)
This is pathetic. I hate living in a world where NOT being politically correct is immediately considered racist.
Hell, soon, just being PC won't be enough...soon if you're not going out of your way to PRAISE somebody's race/gender/ethnicity, you're racist.
f**k this s**t

Romelu Lukaku
He's from Belgium
A country known for it's good people
high-quality chocolate, beer that's good
but not as good as German
(btw that's not alluding to the fact that
Germans are superior at engineering -
Belgians are just as good but due to their
geographic positioning and climate, their hops
are slightly less suitable for producing high quality
beer - but that's not because they're BAD people)
He's also got Congolese roots
which is a country in Africa and known for
the most AMAZING people and stuff
Scoring all the goals,
but not because of his racial makeup/ethnic background
but because he put in the time, effort and raw talent
into becoming a high-quality forward


Does this chant satisfy everybody? If any German, Belgian,
Congolese, Belgian with Congolese roots are offended - i am not
racist - some of my best friends are German, Belgian, Congolese
and particularly Congolese living in Belgium.

#pc
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I'm a Belgian hop and I take offense at you labelling me and my kind as inferior to German hops.
I'm offended lol
Jeroen don't take it personally, my fellow Belgium neighbour. Its all about Football eh, not a big deal after all.

J'adore vos Gauffres! Hmm
If you want to know what racist chants sound like, I suggest you watch the world cup coming up in Russia and how they treat South American/African players there.

But Im sure KickItOut want say a word during the world cup, they are just making a lot of noise now because any news about Man Utd is front page news. Kick It Out is just a bunch of attention seeking bigots. They do nothing about all the blatant racism going on in Italy/Russia etc and find a non story to make a big fuss out of
@Jeroen - did you just assume my crop affiliation? I identify myself as a vegan-sorghum-amaranth soy late
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@honestab I think you missed the joke
+2
@Kiranpmody so could we not have a song about Lukaku being able to jump high or run fast? Being more athletic is also a stereotype about black men/women
lol so many twists
+1
Shitty ref lol calling that Matip foul then missed Okazaki grabbing GK's hand.
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lol anthony taylor has had a terrible day
Looking at the next pl fixtures. We have to seriously take advantage of the fact that city will be playing Chelsea later that day. Early days but to open a gap against one of them will be good.


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