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So, I've always admired Manchester United and given the club it's proper respect when talking about them. I like many of you footytube supporters on here a well. I'm sad to see mou in charge here, and I want to apologize for being an ass next season. I freakin can't stand the guy...he gets under my skin so much. I wish you all luck in moving forward and putting the last few seasons behind you.
my buddy who supports chelsea just sent me this video on facebook
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBXX61GrdCo
am i the only one who feels awkward about all this, i mean clearly jose has a lot of love for chelsea and that first interview video up top, he seems much less pumped and happy than when he re-signed for chelsea maybe he is just tired but i worry his heart might not be in it and we might not see the same level of passion. of course very unfair of me to judge him so quickly but i just have a concern that he could not prove to be as effective for us as he has been with other teams, i guess only time will tell
I got quite the opposite effect. I felt assured that we are not getting a Mourinho who is all hyped up going ape-s**t stupid making the whole thing about himself (at least not yet. I'm sure all of that is coming).

Also, despite the subdued nature of the interview, he maintained clear focus on progress at United saying how United shouldn't be remembered by the last 3 years but rather by the history. I think these were positive signs.
Its well known we disliked the guy. He's a bastard, but now he's our bastard.

A positive for me is that for some reason, he seemed to really want this job in recent years, so maybe he really has mellowed out or maybe we'll see his true colors few months into the season.
wow Smalling captained the team today! Not a bad game for all 3 of our players
What a manager José Mourinho is. He's only been United boss for a few minutes and his players are scoring for fun.- Gary Lineker
damn... Rashford and Rooney... both are dope!!!
This Sterling guy is a waste of space! Have no idea how he made the 26..Could name 10 better options who are better and deserved to be in the side..
really? do it then please.
So u think he deserves to be in the squad?? Defoe/Carroll/Antonio/Noble all deserve to be in the squad before Sterling!
All of which play in different positions to Sterling...
Defoe - Maybe
Carrol - Hell no.
Antonio - Who?
Noble - England already has too many central midfielders..
Michail Antonio any day over Sterling
This post makes no sense. Already have a dearth of wingers in the squad. Fine, you don't like Sterling then name replacements like people asked. You name people that have nothing to do with wide-play. Maybe you could have suggested Walcott or Townsend. Or argued that Vardy or Rashford (or even Sturridge) be pushed wide instead. Btw, how is Michail Antonio better than Sterling?
Have u seen him play this season? He is strong quick much better decision maker and scored a lot..But yes I agree should've given players in his position..Sterling doesn't play as an out and out winger .so his competition is Vardy/Sturridge/ and even Rashford..Also I think Towsend did much better as well in the limited time he played and was much better than Sterling in the last month of the premier league.
Antonio actually has been a beast this season, and is very versatile being able to play RW and Rb... probably the biggest shout for any West Ham player tbh
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... so that's four... you said ten.
Exaggerating obviously unless he wants chsmpionship players xD
Rashford is going to France lol
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Marcus Rashford has scored with his first shot on his PL, Europa League and England debut. Lol!
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all started with MArtial injury against Midtjylland
I thought it started with a whisper
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/10296044/jose-mourinho-tells-manchester-united-fans-to-forget-last-three-years

How a United manager should be talking.

None of this "expectations are too high", "we aspire to be like City" or the worst "we'll try and make it difficult for Newcastle".

Really refreshing to hear some ambition, just forget the last three years, that's not United, time for a new start, I've still got my reservations but I hope he does well.
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I think the biggest thing is that it seems like a risk, but also one well worth taking. For once I see us being proactive as a club.
Can't change the past but we can make sure we have a better future
Mourinho is one of the very managers who I think can turn us around. The man was made to manage Utd imo and for quite a few years now he's been talking us up. I had a feeling he'd take over one day, but not this soon.
He'll get us back up there, I'm sure of it.

He's already wasting no time. Several journalists are saying we're after Manolas, while Ibra seems likely as well. It also seems like he's looking for a midfielder.
The guy means business and I'm really looking forward to next season. The players must be pumped to play for him.
He is the best manager in the world along with Pep. I am super excited about this.
It's going to be great to watch that pre season friendly vs City in China. Pep is going to walk into the stadium and see only red shirts :)
Mourinho is already busy scooping up players? He totally should have taken a 4 week vacation first...
^ lol i think when he said the biggest clubs are for the best managers, he must have meant moyes.
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well fine then. gotta support the team. i have some doubts still, but here we are.
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A lot of us do mate. But Mou is a winner and I'm convinced he'll do great here!
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i'll feel better/worse/same once some signings arrive.

the big question mark in my mind over the last three years is the competence of woody. i know our board is a bunch of chumps.

if jose asks for an easy signing, do we watch them go to bayern?
lets just see how it goes, Mou is by far better option at the stage we placed ourselves in. Will he bring guaranteed success? Likely, but nothing is guaranteed.

Lets give him time and see how his first season goes. I am so excited I am jumping literally from my seat not gonna lie, but when it comes to reality, next season will be still tough for us to finish top 4, not that I dont believe we will finish top 4.

With him it all depends on transfer market, if he gets right tools from start, we are up for a good ride!

And no, I dont believe he is here for just 2-3 years as many people think. He will want to emulate Sir Alex, he wants to keep this job as long as he can even with modern demands today.
i'm with kateo, it's difficult to sort out my feelings at this point. i understand the pragmatism given jose's record, particularly considering he has won the league 3 times and knows the EPL inside out and has all the european experience you could dream of..

but it's hard to just ignore the massive concerns i have. i just want him to freaking behave in interviews, represent us properly, and to play on the front foot in the big matches. would be nice if we kept the tradition of having an academy player in the first team squad for the last 10 million years and gave a chance (not just 10 minutes) to the youngsters that are not just robbens and varanes but maybe diamonds in the rough.

i will probably feel at ease once we make signings, i can then maybe feel better about the direction we are heading in.
Well who cares about reputation so long as you win? SAF himself, the legend, was no saint. Besides, simply by being regular winners should mean something, particularly when there are like 8 to 10 World class managers in the league this season.
LGW is right.

People citing behaviour as a concern for Mourinho is ridiculous in my opinion, SAF was terribly behaved, fought the press constantly, ripped into every ref in the league at some point, pissed off most PL managers with his antics and you know what? It was brilliant.
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Indeed, this club has never lacked ego: "We're Man Utd, we'll do what we want."

I get that there's a balance between these antics and not making a farce of the club (like the Chelsea trainer situation, which was pretty embarrassing).

But people hate/have hated United, and people hate/have hated Mourinho. The marriage of the two is unlikely to change the minds of those that fall into either camp.
I'm only worried about jose's youth record.but not for his antics and interviews.i even welcome that.he is a master of mind games and psychology,just like sir alex was.he says what he wants,he can be cocky,arrogant and brutal to others.to be honest,that fits to united.
I dont want everything nice in football,i want rivarly,mind games.i dont want players diving and crying about it although millions and millions are watching on tv.i want people with real passion about the game,jose is on of them,with all his negatives aswell
yeah... fergie's temper often got the better of him during matches but..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDBS5k8lNbU

SAF ever do that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdADLHqLEfk

ever say that about a respected colleague?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/34651786/jose-mourinhos-most-controversial-moments-as-a-football-manager

he's got quite a rep for these naughty moments.

i suppose you forgot him openly courting chelsea while at real madrid. can you imagine him pulling something off like that while here? i would be furious.
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the carneiro incident is indicative of someone losing the plot imo.
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i think you are nitpicking, we cant find or expect mirror image of SAF. Mou though has a lot of similarities, that is all it matters for now. We needed that, we got that.

He had his moments because of his tamper and because of his ego of being a winner. He cant loose - he said it hiself: he will do anything to get a victory. I like this, and this something many fans were badly missing since SAF left us.

By looking from certain perspective Mou is similar to Keane: both are crazy in their own way. I dont see us hating on Mou, when we loved Keane.
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@SiF

Really?

The poke in the eye was in anger, Fergie once kicked a football shoe across the changing room in a rage which busted open Beckhams eye... Accident or not lets not pretend Fergie didn't have the red rage.

Called Roy Keane, his former captain and someone who he once said would succeed him as manager Peter Pan, read Fergies autobiography or even search for some of his controversial quotes about referees being too fat etc to see that Fergie would definitely cross the line when it came to conduct towards other professionals.

Madrid were gonna sack him, Perez is a w****r, he was looking after his own interests, I get what you're saying though but I think its dense to pretend that Fergue didn't cross the line.
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yeah im not going to equate an eye gouge with kicking a shoe across the room.

and referees are not fellow colleague of managers imo. arsene wenger is a hugely respected figure in the game, and it's well published how bad arsenal's finances have been in the last decade. that comment was bang out of order.

fergie calling a fat referee fat, oh boy yeah same kind of comment. bad fergie.

yeah fergie crossed the line, what does that have to do with jose mourinho crossing the line? leave fergie out of this, you're just trying to make excuses. i'll tell you what, if jose wins 13 league titles and 2 cL with us maybe i'll let it slide. until then, im going to call him out for the douchebag things he's done. and i haven't even touched on the carniero bust up, thanks for reminding me. lemme guess, fergie did something similar and got sued too so its ok?

there's a lot to like in jose, and a lot to dislike. all im saying is keep the club out of the tabloids, please. thanks. you can be fiery and ornery without dragging a club's name through the mud, but jose hast quite mastered that one at his previous clubs. he's always seemed to end up doing or saying something that just rains down negative press - things that don't even have to do with football. for all fergie's comments and antics, i don't think he's ever drawn the same kind of negative attention not with the stuff he has no business being involved with in the first place.
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"yeah im not going to equate an eye gouge with kicking a shoe across the room."

Eye gouge? lmao... it was a dirty nasty move but a gouge? seriously? Get a grip, Beckham got his eye busted open from that shoe, some would say managers shouldn't be losing their s**t like that especially with players getting hurt.

http://news.images.itv.com/image/file/205814/image_update_87b5b036d31fe107_1368721454_9j-4aaqsk.jpeg

"and referees are not fellow colleague of managers imo. arsene wenger is a hugely respected figure in the game"

So refs are just fair game then? Arsene Wenger some sacred cow that cannot be criticised? they cant stand each other and have been jabbing at each other for a decade, yeah it was a low blow, I wont justify it and you'll get no argument on that front but dont pretend they haven't traded insults over the years.

"yeah fergie crossed the line, what does that have to do with jose mourinho crossing the line?"

Read your previous post SiF... lol

"yeah... fergie's temper often got the better of him during matches but.." / "SAF ever do that?" / "ever say that about a respected colleague?"

You're directly asking me for comparisons between Mourinhos behaviour and Fergies... That is why I compared the two.

As for the post before that, LastGaspWinner brought up Fergie first and I agreed with him, it is incredibly hypocritical to cite behaviour as a problem for appointing Jose when our greatest ever manager is the most fined / suspended manager in the history of English football. End of.

"leave fergie out of this, you're just trying to make excuses. i'll tell you what, if jose wins 13 league titles and 2 cL with us maybe i'll let it slide."

Wind your neck in mate.

No one is making excuses for Mourinho, I did not justify any of his bust ups other than the Madrid one and they f*****g deserved it, its a horrible club that deserves as good as it gives.

I just made it clear that Fergie was just as bad, its a valid comparison. As for the title comment, thats just pathetic, Mou is not fair game because he hasn't won anything with us yet, he hasn't even managed a game for us yet, I could easily cite the list of honours he has won at other clubs since he took up management, some would argue its better than Fergies over that era...

"i don't think he's ever drawn the same kind of negative attention."

I'm sorry but that is total b******s that, Fergie was every bit as hated as Mourinho and constantly drew negative attention from the press, opposition fans and punditry, in part because they got right under everyone's skin, largely because they're both winners.

:D
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this mentality... lets say you have hired gardener to trim trees a.k.a. Fellainis in your private expensive mention. You know he has a fantastic CV and was known to win the best Fellaini tree cut of the year in the side contest.

You trust him and he served you well for 10 years until recently for some reason he decided to s&^% on the carpet made out of gold, silver, bones and sperm of the elephant. That somehow went viral and negative rumors spread about situation in your mention all over the media as you find out there is such thing that is called "social standard" and people being people tend to base their opinion on those fundamentals.

YET fair play to you, you felt like its alright to keep him and ignore society and their standards because he has shown 10 years of stability so far and it would really hard to substitute him and you think its not enough to fire someone like him.

Time passes and You closed your eyes again and rumors have spread about those incidents again, gardener has retired and now you need to search the substitute. There many candidates but they are not available and you know they wont be available for next several years.

Suddenly top block gets available and you are running to hire him and be done with gardening problems as they are waste of your time cause you such a money whore. Problem is after you have checked his CV it appears he is not better than your previous gardener and not only did he s&^% on expansive carpet at your neighbor's mention, he also done some strange thing to one Fellaini in particular, yet his work quality is as good as your previous gardener.

Tell me, why would you not hire him if you need him? Who are you saving, yourself from past bad reputation or... what?
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mate read my first post, when did i mention fergie? i think you're the one who brought up SAF, and it's largely irrelevant. you're saying fergie was the same, i beg to differ, that's the only reason i mentioned fergie at all. don't turn this around and say i'm the one asking for comparisons, that's bullshit. i don't see the two as the same, no way, not in my book.

eye gouge yes, he was digging into tito's eye, what else would you call it? yes beckham was hurt, do you think fergie was trying to hurt him, cut his eye? i can say that was likely an ccident, it's not as if he touched beckham. obviously he should have known better and is at fault. can hardly say the same about the mourinho incident. why the f**k else would you go digging in someone's eye if not to hurt them? it was a bizarre move, and i don't want crap like that on our touchline. i think that's a fair comment.

well no brainer mourinho hasn't done anything for us, that's my point. i'm not going to sit here and defend him antics and turn the other cheek because he was hired 5 seconds ago. there's s**t he's done in the past that he cant continue here. plain and simple, that's my point. comparing him with fergeson was your move, and again, it's got nothing to do with SAF.

you claim you're not making an excuse but you clearly are by even comparing him to SAF, why else would you bring him up? oh well fergie's the same, it doesnt mean anything. rubbish.

exibit a:

As for the post before that, LastGaspWinner brought up Fergie first and I agreed with him, it is incredibly hypocritical to cite behaviour as a problem for appointing Jose when our greatest ever manager is the most fined / suspended manager in the history of English football. End of.

right, so because fergie kicked up a storm, it's silly of my to criticize mourinho and urge him to behave.

im sorry, how is it hypocrisy? did i praise fergie of those fines, or encourage him when he crossed the line or something? maybe my memory is fuzzy . the whole point of me bring up the titles fergie has won is to say he's done a whole lot more good for our club than bad, so im not going to actively call him out for his behavior knowing on the whole he's been massive for us (and not calling him out for stuff doesnt mean i approve, it just means im not stupid). mourinho's got to behave. maybe if he wins a million trophies, it will be pointless to call him out on his behavior. we haven't reached that point just yet.
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All i am going to say is that if Mourinho brings the same kind of success that SAF brought the fans would easily forget all the negative behavior from him. Just look at Cantona. Cantona actually assaulted a fan but he is a legend.

I have valid concerns about Mourinho like the football he is going to play and his youth record. I dont care about this 'represent the club properly' part. It is a non issue.
Kek, what a story about gardeners shitting on gold carpets
@Barracuda whaaaaat? you didnt like it? dats like my best masterpiece since kindergarten.
yaldo the first paragraph, i mentioned above.

the second, i think is maybe a bit short sighted. don't you think a manager can put pressure on his team by drawing negative headlines? im not criticizing for the sake of it. i think it can and does affect the team, affects the fans, and can cause damage. but obviously, the way the team itself plays is key, and the results even more important.

@standard, let me be honest, i dont really understand your story. but i didnt say anything about mou being hired or not hired (at least not this year) all im saying is i hope he behaves himself. is that a crime now to say such things? ffs
@SIF save it mate, I love you! Not in that way :)
I admit. I didnt read the whole thread! LOL
A manager can also take pressure off the players with negative headlines, so in that way it goes both ways. Agree that hopefully things don't go as far as the Caneiro thing, that was disastrous for the club, but remember it was the results that got him fired.
It was the press conference of Jose or will be ? some1 poste a link were we can see live pls
July the 7th will be the press conference, before the tour.
I think this is worth a watch.

https://twitter.com/indykaila/status/736178906839932928


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