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Juan Mata: "Even before I came, things were difficult here, so I knew I wasn't coming to a side that was going to win, win and win. But I knew that this club was going to come back and that the future was going to be bright."
"Since I was a kid, Manchester United was fighting for everything, This moment is going to come back for sure. It's not just the manager, it's not just the tactics, it's all of us. It's not the time to blame one person. We are all together in this."
city won the league cup so 5th and 6th get europa league. So we stay clear of those spot and sit in 7th heaven and build on towards next season.
7th will get europa league if arsenal qualify for the top 4 and win the fa cup.

It look's like there's no escaping europa league.
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no ! are you sure ? i thought that Hull would get it by getting to FA cup final !?
IF FA cup winner ends up in top 4 then the other finalist will get europa league spot.

so 5th ,6th places and hull are going to Europa league next year if arsenal wins, but also keep in mind from next years EL winner will qualify for CL.

The only scenario where 7th will get EL is arsenal winning the FA cup and finish outside top 4.
^^wutt??
anyway,why are you so afraid if we get into europa league.everton,tottenham or even hull city didn't even make a fuss of it.by manutd fans(i'm excluded) logic,everton & tottenham will lose the chance to fight for 4th place and hull city will be in relegation zone next season if they were to compete in europa league

SMH
What's wrong with getting Europa? If we're afraid risking our first team players, just send our reserves for some experience, its not like we need to win the Cup.
I dnt get this either.. Why aftaid of europa league?? I knw money isnt worth it and games on thursday isnt sooo great.. But i see it as a chance to give much needed game time to lot of players, reserves and youngsters.. With our big squad it shouldnt be a problem.. Plus we have never won that cup.. So its a chance to win something new as well...
Do you guys think, that Lingard will get a real chance next season? With Kagawa, Januzaj, Mata, Rooney and potentially Powell, we've got so many players fighting for the AM spot and Lingard isn't really a winger...
James Wilson as well
Wilson is not an AM, he is purely a no9. The only other position he could play is LW and that's only because he got immense pace.

I think Lingard would have to do extremely good to break into the squad let alone the starting XI. I really like him, his attitude and mentality are 2nd to none among all our young players..its unfortunate that the competition itself is so fierce cause otherwise a local lad like would have gotten more opportunities.
Before sending him on loan next season give him a chance in league cup games.
Exactly my toughts Prophet. It's always sad, when there's too much competition to let your locals play, but then again it's part of beeing a top club. He showed a lot of potential during preseason tough, I would at least give him another PL loan and then let's see how he develops.
one of the reasons to play in europa league, give the youngsters some games.
"I think he's got a good chance, the boy, and we want to keep him right but keep moving him up and progressing him when we think the opportunities are there.

"If the opportunity comes [before the end of the season], we'll do so but we have a lot of people looking for a game."

Good news If DM wants to give youth a chance till the end of the season
Just thought about the risk we would be taking on William Carvalho he could really turn out to be a massive flop also his price tag might even effect his play so getting him would be a massive risk but it's debatable to weather he is a risk worth taking
Get him first. Worry later.
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what makes you think he gonna be a flop??
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what we need is a young, fit midfielder who can recover the ball and give a positive pass forward. that's what this guy does.
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Who do you suggest we go for instead of him Wilf? I can’t think of anyone more ideal than him that’s available.
@kateo

agreed. i think there are players who can fill this role besides carvalho but the kid is a tank and in the media so he's getting a lot of attention.

and we also need a workhorse who can create and score goals and not be a liability in defense. we need a proper threat from midfield, someone technical enough to take the ball into the final third, or make the late run into the box to score, or pick out positive runs from forward players. our CMs are way too conservative because they lack the stamina and mobility to get up and down the pitch. as a result we often look very predictable... the other teams overload the wide areas because they know there's no threat coming down the center, no one capable of taking a shot from the edge of the box or providing the ball in behind the opposition's defense.
If we buy Carvahlo that means all of Moyes first 3 signings have been over 30million.

Right now only one is making a real impact in our team.
When did Fellaini cost over 30mil? adding mils like the media?
27.5mil, close, but below 30. Its overpriced either way, but we always sign players way above its market price.
this is a bit silly though. if we buy kroos, he could turn out to be a flop... can't sign anyone for fear of them flopping?

For Sunday:

DDG
Jones Vidic Smalling Butt
Fletch Carrick
Adnan Mata Kagawa
Rooney
WHERES YOUNG!!!!!
you already know fellaini will start vs everton
He'll be elbowing his former teammates
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rooney fit?
Does Fletcher have a future at Utd? I know almost everyone would prefer to see him get back to his best but he is at that age when players start to decline. I would say keep Fletcher because of the experience he brings but he could be a starting player for many other teams. Would it be better for both parties if he is allowed to leave?
reliable squad player imo in terms of performance. he's only 29, he's got some time before he becomes a liability imo. keep him around for cup games and the easier games in europe given his experience and leadership
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Both Fletcher and United know how he is to be played, there is an understanding as both get what they want from each other. Fletcher knows he can't play every week so going elsewhere wouldn't make his situation better while at United he can both play occasionally and influence younger players...having a senior of his ilk is beneficial to United especially now that we are clearing out most of our senior players. He is not on astronomical wages either so its good to have him as a squad player.
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I hope we don't go for Ander Herrera anymore, he's not what we need.

Koke has done better than him this season, been the pivotal cog in Atletico's team.

Not saying we should get Koke either, but I don't think Ander is worth 30+ million.
I think the Herrera ship has sailed as we've identified better targets so no point going back. About Koke, i've always maintained that he is the best option for our midfield almost perfect even but at the same time next to impossible to get. He loves Atletico to death and even we pay his release clause and force them to sell him what is to say he'll put in the same effort here and progress like we would want. I mean he is still a professional player and would not act otherwise if we bought him but it wouldn't be the same for him as playing for Atletico.

Having said that i'd still try and test their resolve and put in a mega bid cause at the moment i can't see a better option than him for our midfield.
just a thought wasnt powell supposed to be our next cm of the future? we re crowded uptop i was under the impression powell was going to step into the role alongside someone else willing to share time whether its a youngster or new player. id be over the moon if we signed koke but there are others. matuidi, mendy, banega, vidal. whoever it is they have to fit moyes footballing style and mentality.
we were never really in for ander herrera. we never intended to meet the buyout clause. the stuff about the mysterious men on deadline day was just some ambulance-chasing lawyers hoping to get lucky on deadline day lol.
yea powell could be a CM but right now he's a striker, has been for most of his career. he needs game time at CM and i do think he's got the talent and physicality in his locker to shine at it.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/9271812/transfer-news-arsenal-and-man-utd-target-kiko-casilla-wants-to-stay-at-espanyol

these 'journalists' just want to create the appearance that we are getting turned down left right and center. i mean who the heck is this guy and why is it news that he's "snubbing" us? 27 year old goalkeeper. shame, as i was really looking forward to getting another keeper to round out the squad.
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Expect more of this in the summer SiF.

It's open season on United now, ripping into Moyes and the club will sell papers and serves as wonderful click bait for the websites of the countries most vile tabloids etc.

It's just the "flavour of the season" mate, hopefully we can do some solid business this summer and have a good campaign next year and just shut everyone the f**k right up, it wont relent until Moyes wins a title or gets sacked.
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On Sunday one of these average players will somehow make the line up so whoever it is we rallying behind you.
#daretoyoung
#daretocleverley
#daretofellaini
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To be honest, I hope Rooney doesn't start and we play with Januzaj, Mata, and Kagawa again.

It was really magical to watch, I hope the Newcastle game wasn't the last we will see of the combo.
+8
I know Rooney can play with them, but he's just coming off an injury which he took a injection to play the Bayern game, instead of being rested. I'm pretty sure he played the full 90 as well, which should not have happened.

What I mean is that I hope he is rested properly, instead of rushing him back into action and hurting himself further.
^ You know Rooney can play with them right? Lol. Shouldnt play Rooney at all if hes still injured. I just hope we get to see Nani before he leaves...
I agree to with dgrant117, Rooney shouldn't start. In my opinion that was the best and most entertaining football we've played this season.

No cross abusing, hopeless longballs but pure passing football with movement all over the pitch.
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Newcastle are s**t, granted it was a good performance but their form is at a season low, calling for Rooney to be axed from the team based on that one game is ridiculous.

Rooney has been our best player this season, 17 goals and 22 assists in 35 starts (38 apps) in an utterly tragic season where we have struggled for any kind of forward impetus is an excellent return. Not to mention he fights for everything, one of few players who has looked like they give a s**t this season.

There is a far more convincing argument for Rooney to be moved back to the No.9 position that he played back in the 09-10 season (easily his best season) with the three players mentioned all playing off him.

The two seasons he has played up front he hit 34 goals in 43 & 44 games (09-10 season and 11-12 season respectively), he is a top top forward. I never understood why he was moved back after his exploits in the 09-10 season, he was outscoring everyone in Europe until that injury at Bayern away which ruined his season.

His place in the team isn't even a debate really, if we're going to have a tough discussion over a superstar's place then its RVP we should be talking about.
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^This. I can't fault Rooney for anything he's done this season, he was the only player that looked like playing with heart for the whole first half of the season.

The only problem with Rooney as a sole striker is Rooney himself. He tends to drop off deeper, which is what has caused him to be played almost as an AM in the first place.

I personally would love to see him as a sole forward with the three playmakers behind him. As he gets older, hopefully this is a role that suits him. He can't be running around and chasing every ball forever, not if he wants to get the most out of his career.
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Lol, I'm not shutting Rooney out, all I'm trying to say is to not start him. He should be healed properly before playing and I don't think throwing him in for another 90 is smart either.

Either he starts, plays for 50 mins, (which might happen) or bring him on as a sub.
If he isnt fully recovered he should not play. lets not make him more prone to injury. we got more or less nothing to lose now so no point risking further damage to our best player

also yes newcastle arent the best but do you guys remember that game against fulham? they're even weaker and that game was pathetic for us


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13
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10
11
34
10
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4
12
34
11
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10
34
12
36
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40
34
17
6
10
33
13
34
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49
35
17
7
9
33
14
33
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17
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8
34
15
33
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40
12
15
6
33
16
32
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53
26
18
8
8
34
17
30
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35
23
3
9
35
18
29
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64
30
19
8
7
34
19
26
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56
31
19
8
6
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