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We look so tired in the second half against Southo. hmm..
No Pogba , and Mkhi and Mata were especially poor
Had to hold onto the lead,
So it was sensible to play 3 CBs near the end. no need to fire Mou over this as some fans are claiming lol
Why there is no more highlight from the match??ffs this is so bad...
I'll post on your wall the link to a site that has AWESOME highlights every time...the only thing i come to FT anymore for is the forums
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If it wasn't for us this site would not exist nomore lol
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Think this is why mourinho got sent off?

https://imgur.com/gallery/2QBC9
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Oh s**t I knew Mou was a clever troll but this one is bloody hilarious lmao
great 3 points against a team that looked hungry for most part of the game,defence was solid and jones looked like maldini today .
We got a golscorer in Lukaku and back 4 has been brilliant so far this season we look pretty solid overall.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/11050400/manchester-united-ask-for-cctv-footage-over-romelu-lukaku-chants

I don't understand the issue with this chant but if Lukaku already asked for fans to move on from the chant, it should be done with
The issue with the chant is that it brings up race-based stereotypes. It should not be a consideration that someone thinks they are doing it as a compliment. It should not be a consideration that 'well, it is Football, I am not doing it outside the stadium'. The comment is racist (positive or negative) and there should be no room for racism (in Football or outside).

What I don't understand is why fans are so hell-bent on using that chant when there is a whole pandora's box worth of things they can sing about.
@Kiran - but it is not racist. We cannot be fixated on the words. This way we will run out of phrases to use. This is plain dumb
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It's a crude stereotype but if you're wanting to ban such chants then a lot of other rude chants should also be banned because a lot of songs are hardly family friendly.
"He's our Belgian scoring genius.
We CAN'T sing about his penis.
We're politically correeeeeeeecccccct.
He's offside when erect."
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A large penis is as much of a stereotype for black people as a large nose is for Jews. You replace that chant (or Dan's version for that matter) with one for a Jewish player and it becomes anti-semitic. Why is one not OK but the other is OK?
You are not supposed to say 'Jews', instead you are supposed to say 'Jewish community'. You see what I did there? Am I supposed to consider you racist now? Of course not, because you may not have even known that. In my parts here in the US you don't directly say 'Jews'.

My point is, being racist or not is in one's heart. No words can change that. Lately a lot of folks have been fixated on words rather than the intent. Tell me if you really think the chant is racist?

IMO the chant is not completely politically correct, but it only means that Lukaku is a badass, that's all. In some years we won't even be able to call him a 'badass' cos there would be some implication with the arse for all you know
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^ Implications with the arse? Lmarseo!
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Like I said before, he has really big feet, and you know what they say about guys with big feet. He just happens to be black as well, so we cant use that because their are people out there that get offend and expect everyone else to walk on egg shells.

What some people don't realise is, that by going to war with racism, you just make it worse. In time with love and acceptance, the compromises needed from everyone to live in peace, will come and fear will be no more. Or so I believe.
@Tomikato, consider my crass use of the term as a mark of my ignorance. I apologize and will be sure to not use that term and rather stick with 'Jewish'.

Do you see what I did there? I acknowledged a mistake and vowed to stand corrected going forward. Alternatively, I could have easily gone down the path of saying how it isn't racist or offensive. I don't get to decide what is offensive to you. I get to decide what is offensive to me. That's it.

The point here isn't what is considered by everyone as racist but rather what is considered by anyone as racist. Technically, one could argue that using the N-word isn't racist as per members of the KKK but (thankfully) that isn't accepted as a valid argument to allow the use of that term. Just because the Lukaku case isn't as egregious shouldn't be a factor.

I'm not buying your 'slippery slope' argument because people arguing that this is racist could also use the same argument for how allowing this chant will slowly make other - more obvious - racist comments seem OK.
This chant is a joke, a friendly one, with no other intent but to emphasize what a tank of a player Lukaku is.

Your comparison with the 'N' word is not commensurate. This is about a big dick, not being called the N word. To be fair, who says that this is a stereotype for black people? And if it is - it sure isn't used in a negative way in the chant.

My counter argument to you, Kiran, is that because fans chant this lil poem they have made for Lukaku, it does not make them racist. If they used the 'N' word, yes, i would completely agree with you, but this is benign and innocent. If we start calling regular people racist - it completely dilutes the word itself. There would be nothing left in terms or words or feeling to call out those jerks who are really racist in their hearts - we will just be acting out at the wrong people.

The bigger question would be - what does Lukaku think about the song - that's the only thing that would matter to me if I were chanting the song. FYI I don't chant the song - i do think it is silly but I also think it is not racist

At the end of all of this - we do agree that we are all against racism - that's what it sounds like to me.
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No you can't call him black. He's African american
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lol african american? like... the guy from belgium..?
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*Belgian with Congolese roots, you racist bigots!

These chants ARE slightly racist, but if those aren't allowed anymore, we better not say anything funny at all then. Because all jokes poke fun at something and someone might get offended.

Pretty sure Romelu actually kind of likes the chant; he loves to be seen as a beast. (is that racist too?)
This is pathetic. I hate living in a world where NOT being politically correct is immediately considered racist.
Hell, soon, just being PC won't be enough...soon if you're not going out of your way to PRAISE somebody's race/gender/ethnicity, you're racist.
f**k this s**t

Romelu Lukaku
He's from Belgium
A country known for it's good people
high-quality chocolate, beer that's good
but not as good as German
(btw that's not alluding to the fact that
Germans are superior at engineering -
Belgians are just as good but due to their
geographic positioning and climate, their hops
are slightly less suitable for producing high quality
beer - but that's not because they're BAD people)
He's also got Congolese roots
which is a country in Africa and known for
the most AMAZING people and stuff
Scoring all the goals,
but not because of his racial makeup/ethnic background
but because he put in the time, effort and raw talent
into becoming a high-quality forward


Does this chant satisfy everybody? If any German, Belgian,
Congolese, Belgian with Congolese roots are offended - i am not
racist - some of my best friends are German, Belgian, Congolese
and particularly Congolese living in Belgium.

#pc
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I'm a Belgian hop and I take offense at you labelling me and my kind as inferior to German hops.
I'm offended lol
Jeroen don't take it personally, my fellow Belgium neighbour. Its all about Football eh, not a big deal after all.

J'adore vos Gauffres! Hmm
If you want to know what racist chants sound like, I suggest you watch the world cup coming up in Russia and how they treat South American/African players there.

But Im sure KickItOut want say a word during the world cup, they are just making a lot of noise now because any news about Man Utd is front page news. Kick It Out is just a bunch of attention seeking bigots. They do nothing about all the blatant racism going on in Italy/Russia etc and find a non story to make a big fuss out of
@Jeroen - did you just assume my crop affiliation? I identify myself as a vegan-sorghum-amaranth soy late
lol so many twists
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Shitty ref lol calling that Matip foul then missed Okazaki grabbing GK's hand.
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lol anthony taylor has had a terrible day
Looking at the next pl fixtures. We have to seriously take advantage of the fact that city will be playing Chelsea later that day. Early days but to open a gap against one of them will be good.
Watching Dortmund right now it's crazy they have 10 players in opposite territory with GK coming out of box all time playing sweeper
Now hope liverpool can get a toasting
I am more excited for that game than the earlier ones :P
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