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Fellaininho scores again for Belgium! 4th goal from him in 6 games now.
Damn Jesper Blomqvist is so still so fit and fast for a 41 year old. Its still the same old wing play United I missed so much, Poborsky and Blomqvist are destroying them.

We are leading 4-1 against Liverpool legends :D
i know we scored 2, but hows the game so far
We were dominating, main source came from counter with two wingers servicing Yorke up until he was subbed off and now we are relying on wingers taking on defenders. Blomqvist just subbed off for 5 mins rest and is on and running again lol. Poborsky is a beast, still sprinting.

A few good chances for Liverpool, but they hit the post twice. Solid defending otherwise. Their goal came from Van der Gouw mistake. Oops, I just jinxed it, 4-2 now.
Let say IF De Gea signs a contract extension, would you give him a chance and trust him again as a United Player with number 1 role... OR would you want to see first what next summer window brings, as contract extension may be value based and he could get sold, thus play safe and not get attached to him.
Hard to get over the fact that he was nearly a RM player.
Despite of all the rumors and b.s. we had to put up with his touted move there over the past 2 seasons, he seemed genuinely in love with the club and it's fanbase.

Just as with Rooney, i'll never consider him a true red devil anymore, no matter what happens
Not me. The club and fans showed great patience and loyalty to him and he wanted to f**k off first chance he got.

No thanks.
Yeah if he want to show the club any form of gratefulness, he'll sign an extension before f*****g off to Madrid, no hard feelings from me if that happens.
Damn you guys are harsh lol.
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let's say he signs a new contract. it's gonna take time to heal the wounds he caused to us fans. However having amazing saves like he did last few seasons and committing his future to Utd will be like applying miracle bandages lol.
Chelsea forward Pedro has expressed his displeasure at Manchester United's treatment of his Spain team-mate Victor Valdes.

"No. It is true that I do not like this treatment to my team-mates, especially Victor who has been a reference for me as a companion and a great professional," Pedro told Marca.

"I think it's not fair, but that did not influence my decision. I saw that Manchester United weren't taking a decision and stalling, and I needed a team to start the season. Chelsea were the most decisive."

this valdes situation is not doing us any favors in courting players.. but i will also add, we were not snubbed :P for whatever reason, we hesitated. personally i think we wanted depay at 10 and pedro at LW but when we moved depay wide left it changed our want/need for pedro in LvG's eyes. i still think we were better off getting pedro (And martial).
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James Cooper had a nice piece on the Pedro situation. Clarified what many were already saying, and what Chelsea fans didn't want to hear: the club pulled the plug.

But yeah, it would be best if LVG and Valdes reconciled. He's a class GK and a real professional, who seems proud to be at the club in spite of everything that has happened.
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not only Chelsea, every other teams fans (Ars, City, Liv, Barca...) refuse to believe that LVG decided not to go for Pedro. Was i pissed? YES! Hell im still pissed that we didnt get Pedro. He would have been a good signing but i believe that Utd could have signed him way before Chelsea even entered the race. They stalled and stalled, looking for other target. I guess Pedro also got annoyed and joined Chelsea when they inquired. In summary, i do think missing out on Pedro was a mistake but he wasnt on top of LVG shopping list
Valdes is earning my respect. This guy is a great professional.
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What did he do?
I feel like if he didn't go public with his dissent about the reserves thing he'd actually be in the no. 1 spot atm. It's a damn shame really.
Yeah i don't get this, he has been frozen out and shamed long enough, surely he deserves a second shot.
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was it not LVG who first mentioned about him not playing in reserves?
http://www.espnfc.com/club/manchester-united/360/blog/post/2593554/manchester-uniteds-transfer-window-of-major-upheaval

Good article from ESPN (the irony) that probably gives the most unbiased perspective on our transfer window so far.

And this is the quote of the article

"If the club listened to its fans, they'd have no players left. All would have been sold at one time or another in their career, from Roy Keane to Ryan Giggs. At least Ferguson stuck by players when they were getting pilloried by their own. He was the boss and that was that; he needed to make the unpopular decisions. So does Van Gaal and he has."

I personally am witholding judgement of LVG till his term has finished and a new manager has entered the hot-seat. The season is in full-gear and we need better performances to suit the results. I like that we're solid so far, but I do agree that we need to start building on the foundations.
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We don't always agree with his decisions. It was the same thing with SAF and Moyes but in less than 2years the amount spend and his relationship with the players are exaggerated.

At least SAF had result and Moyes he didn't have enough time but LVG has to win something this year.

4 games played. 2wins, 1 draw and 1 loss. Only 3goals scored its poor for a club of this level and for a manager of his kind.
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tell you what,if lvg even struggles to get top4 I guarantee he will get the boot. the amount of changes hes made,players hes gotten rid of,is exactly what man city did when the oil took over which I dont like.
tbh I miss the old squad,fletcher,nani,ferdinand,etc..
so in other words,no excuses for van gaal,none of this needing time to let his philosophy hit in,these transfers are beyond ridiculous,being very rich does not mean you have to spend inappropriately
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Great article by Andy Mitten.
This is another good piece, thanks for the link.
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A club like United looses its identity by frivolously spending. A club like City gains its identity by doing the same.

-GSS
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Yes the club overspent but I'd rather we do that and get targets than continue to miss out on players that improve us. This martial thing may come back to haunt us or may look a stroke of genius at the end of his contract only time will tell. Chelsea made a similar gamble with drogba and look how that turned out for them. People need to chill and let the club handle their business, it's their own money afterall. For all we know 12 months from now psg or real comes in and we lose out so kudos on the club for being decisive.
May I add without the fans the club is nothing. So in a sense it's not the club's own money. If the club gets run badly and not doing good there would be a major upheaval. Enough pressure to have those 'owners' cave in.

Capitalism works both ways. If people stop buying that company gets f'cked.
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That's just how the world works. No company, corporation or billionaire out there is rich because of 'their own' money.
It's all crumpets from millions of middle-class individuals' money that make them rich.
It's just how the economy (capitalism) chugs forward.

That's why it's time for the rebirth of glorious Communism my comrades
+1
i mean it's not the fans money once it's in utd' bank account.. it was the fans money, obviously, but now it's not.. the club is not publicly owned like barca so the ownership thing is significant as we have no say in how club money is used.

and it's not like there were terms reached between fans on club in terms of how to spend it lol. we give them our money, no strings attached. to say it's the fans' money is like saying it's your employer's money and not yours, even after you deposited the money in your bank account.
The fans' contribution to the club's coffers (via merchandise, etc) probably pales in comparison to global sponsorship deals (adidas, Chevrolet) anyway.
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http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/9975881/manchester-united-summer-transfer-window-reviewed

on Martial
"If it is a panic signing, it is a panic that has gone back weeks and months. They have been monitoring this young man very, very closely for a long time. A lot of big European clubs have been in for him. The feeling among those clubs is that Monaco would make it into the Champions League this season and therefore they would have to wait another year.

Manchester United realised as soon as Monaco tumbled out of the qualifying stages of the Champions League that was their opportunity. They have moved in very swiftly and paid big money - £36m, which is a record for a teenager in world football."

on Pedro
"In the end, they just simply did not pull the trigger on that deal. They could have done it very, very easily with that buy-out clause. There was a three-and-a-half week process where they could have said they wanted that player.

In the end they didn't want Pedro and they are hoping that decision does not come back to bite them."
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"They are thinner in numbers but I think Manchester United are emerging from this transfer window thinking they are more streamlined."

I think streamline is the best term to describe the squad. Someone posted on the facebook group a picture of the 4-2-3-1 formation with all the players that fit in and there's easily 3-4 players available and able to play in most, if not all positions.

And I think it was a brutal process but with injuries not a major issue so far we have a good quality of depth on paper and we should be able to effectively compete on all fronts with sufficient rotation. Now its just up to the players to perform up to par
+2
LVG love working with a small squad as I remember he said something about it
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^yeah because his gameplan requires structure as well as chemistry between players so keeping the squad relatively small means they'll be playing constantly with one another week in week out.

I'd expect us to hit that peak form (like that crazy run of games) a lot sooner than last season barring injuries
+1
Everyone say this you know when they has not been able to sign the player they wanted,also deep in van gaal heart I know he wanted so badly Pedro but.....
He also mentioned he only like a certain number of players to attend training meaning if too many players in the club, players will be left out and someone wont be happy. Like Anderson did when lvg arrived. Its a good thing, and although I dont want injury, but I want to see which youth will step up if injury struck like lvg did at different clubs.
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I saw this piece the other day and it got me thinking: another way to look at the transfer is that Martial was a player the club have been monitoring for a while. They wanted him. He became available. And they made sure they got him, by throwing loads of money at Monaco (loads of which the club has). His stats may not yet speak for themselves, but this lad is highly rated across Europe. And the fact that he now has the no.9 shows a sign of belief in the club that he could become a big, big player. I'm excited to see him at OT.

What's interesting is the insight by Cooper about how the club wanted Ramos, but that's it. In failing to get Ramos, LVG is comfortable with the CBs already at the club. I suppose this puts to bed any speculation about Rojo's future?
don't see why there was any speculation about rojo, he's not yet match-fit and LVG wanted to fit blind in the side because he's such a good ball-player. no problem there.

there are still gaping holes in the squad though, and a very blunt attack. hopefully martial is quicker than ashley williams, because rooney apparently isn't.
^Sterling was never worth 50m but I could understand he's English and he has experience in a proven league. I still think City grossly overpaid for him. Why not say the same about Martial from a grossly inferior league who scored 11 goals but remained unproven?

Doesn't matter how you cut it, this is not fair regardless of how much money you have to do so. It's principle. What this will do now is add a snowball effect in that if United want promising players his age they're gonna literally rape Woody. Add to that, that'll probably get set as base price for any half decent player for other Premier League clubs as well.

I'll honestly say this, I've been considering totally putting my interests somewhere else other than football simply because of the bad spending and the possibilities of what next year will bring with the implementation of more money.

Gone are the days of when you had true champions built from the scratch only aided by a few international players bought here and there.
GSS why would you ever consider cutting out your football interests? Change is undeniable and your stance on it is what makes for diverse conversations.
I love the interest because it's both entertaining on and off the field but to sit down and watch the entire game get tarnished because of money is what I'm against. Listen, I don't condone the lack of urgency from Arsene but I also don't condone the overspending on players either. There must be a balance. One in which is very difficult to find these days.
^ I don't disagree GSS. I posted something similar the other day, when I found out that the total spend this window was almost 1bn. Like what the f**k? No question it is killing the game.
thats just weak imo. prices are going to keep increasing, thats the nature of the beast.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/9976568/how-much-did-your-club-spend-premier-league-transfer-window-net-spend-table

Our net spend this summer was £33.61 million pounds.

We bought £108.10 million pounds worth of players and sold £74.49 million pounds worth of players.

Very low net outlay compared to last summer, given some of the high earning departures like Falcao, RVP and Nani along with the high number of departures in general we have probably trimmed the wage bill as well especially when you consider that none of our signings this summer were real mega wage signings, all mid range more or less.

Factor in the new world record sponsorship deals and the return to the CL and the club should have a great year financially and should be reflected properly in next summers transfer budget.
Worth pointing out that if the De Gea deal had gone through then the clubs net spend would have been £4.61 million pounds, the third lowest in the league...
But of course most people will conviently ignore about that.

"omg utd spend 80 million on unknow player" That is all that matters.
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"omfg United spends hundreds of million $ every year"
+1
People just want to find something to laugh at us, so they will ignore our net sell as well as sponsor income and then group us with sugar daddy club.

According to Transfermarkt, our club rank 4th in squad's total market value behind Chelsea, City and Arsenal.
High risk high reward: he is trying to get more sync, while wasting depths. Meaning 2-3 injuries GG WP, while on other hand if no injuries high reword expectancy.

Problem is its no guarantee there will be high reward even when setup is perfect when teams are just parking the bus they way the do in EPL vs us not giving space. There should be certain plan to f the bus. Fellaini is only one option, should be other plan as well, or this is not working.
1. De Gea
4. Jones (HG)
5. Rojo
7. Memphis
8. Mata
9. Martial
10. Rooney (HG)
12. Smalling (HG)
16. Carrick (HG)
17. Blind
18. Young (HG)
19. Wilson (U21) (List B)
20. Romero
21. Herrera
xx. Powell
23. Shaw (U21)
25. Valencia
27. Fellaini
28. Schneiderlin (HG)
xx. Varela
31. Schweinsteiger
33. McNair (U21) (List B)
35. Lingard (HG)
36. Darmian
44. Pereira (U21) (List B)
50. Johnstone (U21)

Powell and Varela weren't given actual numbers but you can speculate as the players are apparently in numerical order.

Not used to all those vacant small numbers.
+1
Nice to see Varela on the list.

I was wondering what happened to him, I thought he had moved on permanently, he could really compete with Darmian in a couple of years if things go well.

Has to be now or never for Powell, I had completely forgotten about him. How is he doing? Anyone been keeping up with him? Was he loaned last season?
Did Martial get number 9? That's good for him but I hope he can handle the pressure that comes with it
cant really be any worse than falcao lol.
+5
Apparently Martial choose the #9 when presented with a whole number of options, so confidence is certainly there.
@MUFC Nick Powell was loan to Leicester City last season, but was recalled by LVG around February because he wasn't given enough game time. LVG could have let him rot there if he didn't care about the player, so certainly Powell have getting his attention more or less. He returned to the club and played for reserve team, but he was rusty and got injured again. His contract was supposed to run out this summer, but got extended for one more year, so its his last chance.
DDG has been named in the CL squad, no Valdes however. Does this mean no winter move for DDG ?
Don't try to understand anything regarding players in squad, transfers, philosophy etc at Man Utd nowadays.

You may turn into a fool :)

Dude Nick Powell is in that list !
+2
Valdes doesnt even have a number... talk about CL squad spot
also Pereira is list B but Lingard is on the list...
"Valdes doesnt even have a number..."

lmao
Nick Powell could be our surprise striker. His inclusion in CL squad made it in the news, is it really that surprising? These forgotten or under the radar players will make depth since we cleared out so many players.
He's been injured for a while. Doesnt look like he would get back in the game anytime soon

https://twitter.com/NPowell25/status/635829316975218688
LVG being too harsh on Valdes. Considering how DDG been behaving during second half of last season and all summer, Valdes deserve nothing but his place in MU squad.
That look serious, hope he'll be back and fit soon
The surprising striker is Martial lol no one from the media mention him, then boom as the last minute he appear


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