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What's more important??

Try to go all out, playing good attacking football without caring for results,trophies, appreciated and admired by everyone(ala Dortmund in their recent hayday under Klopp) or playing stagnant, boring, defensive football but effective football even though it puts fans to sleep, even if the fans do not get any encouragement whatsoever to wake up 3-4 am in the morning to watch the match as long as the club wins trophies.

I know it's the Jose way, effective way, but is it the right way , the only way?? With so much attacking talents rotting on the bench.

I may sound like a hypocrite, cos I was praising Jose for the well organized win against Huddersfield just couple of days ago as it was a necessary win for us, cos we had 2 losses in 3 games.So I understand the way we played and were set up.But playing every away match,with the same withdrawn approach, regardless of the opponents or the competition, is getting too old. Our opponents know it too well. They just have to kill our counter attacking threats and the whole match we will be producing nothing.Jose just can't outsmart any other tactician anymore. His tactics are way too easy for them to overcome and it's so bloody predictable.
We just need a balance between defense and offense. Something that top team do so well.

I want to enjoy every game and win something at the end. We are getting trophies, but I am hardly enjoying any game.
Why cant u do both?
I think every manager has to adapt his style of play/tactics to the players he has. Since you guys have better attacking footballers Mou should go for an attacking style of play, not the other way around. We had the same problem when Mou was with us.
I think in a sense, Jose is past it, he is becoming as predictable as Wenger, he's in the game for too long, the game changed and it seems that he has no new tricks. Kinda makes you appreciate even more how amazing SAF was, being in the game for so long and always able to adjust to maintain the highest level possible.
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He hasn't been the same since his time at Real Madrid.
The difference in class between the squad he had at RM and what he has here is obvious.
His Rm side was one of the fastest counter attacking side in the world while at Utd there is no counter attack whatsoever
At RM he had some of the worlds best players at his disposal including a CR7 at the top of his game, world class CM, Full backs etc.
This man utd squad is full of wanabees and dab merchants. Makeshift players are slot into LB and RB even though they work hard they are no where close to being world class. You cant really expect much when your plan for the season involves playing 2 wingers as fullbacks for the entire season
Most of the signings here have been flops or getting there - pogba, lukaku, mkhi etc... the list goes on. None of them are world class despite the huge price stickers on them.
Some of them play well for a game and then go missing for a whole month.

Utd have done a shoddy job with transfers and there is squad depth whatsoever.
So why is De Gea getting such great reviews? Because of that one save from the header before half time? Everything else was pretty much straight forward saves for any GK and here I thought it was something like that Arsenal game. I am disappointed.
Don't you think that one save is enough given that our attack had nothing? He saved our ass over the years so many times it's ridiculous. He won us 20 points at least single-handedly over the last 3-4 years. We should be praising him no matter what he does. He's the reason we are in top-2 right now. Think about if he didn't save that shot from Sanchez from that match against ars. Liverpoop would be tied with us right now in points or above us.
because his saves were the only moment of class and inspiration in the 90 minutes as far as utd go. no one else managed to produce any quality whatsoever

ddg also moped up a lindelof howler that could have easily been goal for servilla. ddg was entitled to have a go at lindelof for that
yeah there wasnt much action this game, most of sevilla's efforts were tame. there was that one mistake by smalling which de gea made up and the broken play from a corner which de gea tipped over the bar. that said we need to play a bit more forward thinking at home in the next leg but at home we should be able to beat sevilla, not looking for a draw but a comfortable win.
I still cant wrap my head around the fact that we cant score a goal with so much f****** quality on the pitch.
Its just ridiculous. After watching today's match and noticing the obvious and subtle things, here's what I think:

1. Formation and Player Selection/Positioning:
Mourinho keeps surprising me every now and then with his starting lineup. We've all wondered why Pogba doesn't play in a 3 man midfield where we can extract the best out of him - going forward and creating!
Why keep one of the best attacking players this season - Martial, on the bench for the most part?
Why not try sanchez on the right (he played really well for Barca there) with Martial on the left in a 3 man midefield?
It just seems there are a lot of simple things that we are trying to complicate ourselves.

2. Player Performance
Call me harsh, but apart from Young and McTominay, I think we were generally sloppy, slow, lazy and wasteful with our passing and getting into positions - this is a pattern I've seen develop over the last 1-2 months or so.
We don't seem to have the sense of urgency (apart from big matches like against city, etc.) in pressing, getting into positions or even passing.
There were so many passes today that Matic, Mata, Lukaku didnt complete or attempt at all.
Pogba seemed like he wasn't 100% or even 80% physically on the pitch from the minute he came on, sanchez hugging the ball for too long, getting closed down by 2 or 3 defenders over and over again, etc...

I dont think its just Mourinho or just the players, both are a problem IMO.
I cant believe Rio, Scholes and Lampard saying this is a great result for a team like United. I just cant.
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I think Rio and Lampard said its a good result since United can win at home and that is all matters....But Scholes wasn't happy especially with Pogba's performance
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Mourinho out
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seemed bizarre from the pundits.
matic had a good game. there wasn't a lot of midfield support for our forwards, they seemed a bit isolated. we played with a lot of discipline, i don't think the objective was to score first, i hope that doesn't come back to bite us. he did make positive changes at the end to maybe try and nick a goal but still not enough bodies forward to pose serious threat. we may have to really pour numbers forward at home though, should be a great second leg.
Man I don't know about this. Pretty disappointing to hardly sniff a goal. A 0-0 away result isn't terrible and may be enough to get us through to the next round--although it puts us in a dire spot if Sevilla get a goal at Old Trafford; does anyone expect us to win 2-1 if we go down 1? And seeing as the likeliest result, 1-1, will put Sevilla through, I was really hoping for an away goal.

Furthermore, hypothetically speaking, is this going to work at the Bernebau or Camp Nou? There's always got to be a bit of luck involved to progress in this tournament, and though I will withhold judgement until after seeing how we play at Old Trafford, I'm just not convinced right now
+4
That young kid who I didn't know till today even existed showed more maturity and determination than his old and matured counterparts. I hope he gets his time here.
+2
He is solid, very good all around
We didn't do jack s**t in the attack. When you keep martial on the bench it just hurts man. Pogba is just s**t right now. It's a miracle we got out of this 0 - 0. If it wasn't for DDG we would be down 2-0 down if not more. Pay the man what he asks for and keep him because he doesn't deserve such s**t coach and team. What the f**k are we doing? If y'all Mou lovers still defend then Y'all f*****g crazy. You don't want man utd to be man utd way. We don't f*****g let a team have 24 shots in the goal and we only have 2...that's not us. I just can't stand this anymore. Even if we knicked a goal and won the game I wouldn't be happy with the performance. We watch sports to be entertained not be bored to death, and that's what exactly this team doing...boring fans.
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Let's see what happens when Sevilla come to Old Trafford.
Seville played better but UTD had the better chance the Lukaku chance in particular, it will be too much for them to get anything at Old Tradford
The Muriel header was the best chance.
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I have not watched all games Sanchez play for united...but today it looked like he was too selfies at times and lost the ball many times because he wanted to do it all by himself.

He is a great player, but it looked like he is trying too hard.
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Barca had 2. And your point is?
Yes, cause you are of superior intelligence. My bad.
Barcelona played football. This is anything but.
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What was offensive about "1 shot in target" that got removed? Just curious?
+3
You know exactly what you did.

You are not being curious here, rather just a jerk. Don't push your luck
+1
^Well, it was certainly more offensive than United's attacking play in the match :P
+14
^LOL how dare you Saum, how dare you?
+3
Jesus you guys :D give it a break
+1
@Saumilsachdeva

gold
Loool. Good one.
@Saum Sad but gold
@Saum Dammmmmmnnnnnnnnnnnn!!! - that hurts lol.
its so f*****g painful watching Utd play these days

we seems unable to create decent chances now. i don’t know who to blame though. maybe most of the players aren’t good enough and the manager who is super stubborn
+5
It's Jose Mounrinho. It's the way he set up his team. He just need to balance defensive play with offensive play but I feel like he is telling the player to hold back.
+2
the club is turning into s**t. pogba was so disappointing. if he was not fit he should sit at home. lukaku had one chance from the sanchez through ball in the first half which he should have done so much better with, but otherwise very ineffective.
without de gea we would have lost by couple of goals.
+3
That's a bad result, if they score now then there's gonna be too much pressure.
+5
Draw away is a good result. I was hoping for a scoring draw but i will take it.
Yup, we absolutely need to win the game to progress. Yet another game of United's I wish I didn't watch though
+3
it is a bad result. sevilla only need to score 1 at OT

then we’d be in trouble

i think i’d just watch Stockport now. at least i know theyr s**t
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