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I don't want to be seen as overacting but I think we have some real problems our defense is horrific and will be even worse if DDG leaves. The other issue is the lack of goal scoring I don't think wazza is selfish enough to be a legit goal threat.

To be realistic I thing we will struggle to make top 4 again and I am worried about the ccl qualifying

What is ur predictions for the new season?
Everything indicates Pedro to United...sooo i think he might solve some attacking problems which are bigger than a leaky defense imo
We started our Summer signings so well but now we are back to square one. We improved our midfield but our attack has suffered after we sold RVP and Falcao. And so has our defence. We haven't made any significant improvements in the defence (DESPERATELY NEED A CB EVER SINCE VIDIC & FERDINAND LEFT) and De Gea nearing a move to Madrid we are seriously going to struggle. Rooney isn't the same striker he used to be 5 years ago nor will he score 20 goals per season and we don't have decent back up to Rooney like the previous seasons (RVP, Falcao, Berbatov, etc). I thought we would be making significant signings this summer especially now that we were back in the Champions League but it looks like we are about to loose our two star players Di Maria and De Gea and we have no quality replacement in line either.

My predictions if De Gea & Di Maria leave we won't finish top 4 and we'll struggle in Europe as well.
Watching Zlatan, I feel like he's perfect for the way we play now. He can keep possession while Rooney and Depay making runs. Plus he's deadly at finishing which we lack atm. He's also a tower so we don't have to play Fellaini against high pressure opponents. We should do the same thing we did against RM. Want DM? Give us one of you best players (Zlatan, Lucas, Veratti) plus cash
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zlatan shits on rooney.
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^ yeah yeah, we all know how much you love rooney, now instead of these one liners, lets try to have a discussion that's at least a little bit constructive.
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anyone else think we are just being stupid in the market with the cb chase? i cant understand the "ramos or nothing" policy we seem to be taking. how can we claim to not need/want defenders and demand ramos as part of a de gea deal?

i think it's clear real madrid cannot sell sergio ramos (perez would have to resign after the way he booted casillas, losing another captain is just unthinkable), so just go for another player. ramos is a better footballer than otamendi but otamendi is such a beast defender, i don't understand the hesitation even given the price because our defense is just no good enough. i understand wanting blind to get minutes and have a ball player out of defense but we just need a top CB, no denying it. so get one!!
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Seems like there are reports suggesting Bayern are now interested in Otamendi. Would be a massive blow if we don't do something after dragging this deal for so long.
I feel like it's been a bargaining chip for DDG, but as you say, it's kinda a useless one at this point.

You need a central core defensive partnership to win this league, that is pretty obvious. I really hope we don't neglect the CB position in the same way we've neglected the CM position for all these years.

And it's not a position you can force people into, so enough of this Blind at CB ridiculousness. He's a great utility player, but he's not a full-time starting CB. As you said, money shouldn't be a problem, fill the hole when needed, don't get caught up with one target
Agree with all of the above, Ramos is a fruitless chase, I cannot for the life of me understand why we have not gone all out for Otamendi.

I don't like how quiet the clubs transfer activity has become, it seems like the news about ADM and De Gea (going off LVG's recent comments) is only getting worse while we are getting more lax in the market, if we lose these two then this summer has been two steps forward and one step back IMO.

Proper replacement really do need to be being lined up, Romero and Gaitan are not good enough.
Otamendi is right-footed. Don't we need a left-footed CB? Is that not why Blind is playing LCB? Unless Ota can play with his left, how does that transfer make sense?
It's not absolutely necessary for a left-sided player to be left footed. And even though LvG said he'd prefer it that way, he's already broken it routinely with Young on the left, and Mata on the right. Seems to make sense much more with LB and RB, but with CB, it would be ridiculous to not move forward in improving the position simply because the player didn't have the desired footedness.
Yes, but what has he complained about for a year now? .. A lack of balance. I don't see him bringing in a right-footed player to play LCB. It's well documented he likes left-footed players to play LCB and right-footed players to play RCB, because of how he wants them to play from the back. Not saying I agree with it or whatever, but I just don't think Ota is coming.

Then again, Ramos is right-footed so who knows.

One thing seems sure, Smalling isn't getting dropped unless he loses form. It looks like he's become #1 in the current CB order. Could that mean that Rojo-Smalling is currently planned #1 pairing, with Blind as back-up LCB unless another CB is acquired?
Ramos is right footed.

If he is really insistent on a left footed CB than the market is thin, far more right footed players than left.
There are so many PSG players talking about the ADM transfer its extremely disgraceful and unprofessional, specially from Blanc. Its like they all learnt it from Barcelona's approach to buying Fabregas.
he's gone, that's been clear since he failed to show up for pre-season. we'd better get over 50 million for him. if not, make him sit in the reserves. i'm stunned adm is being so disrespectful and unprofessional. psg are a bunch of wanks, i'm not really surprised at anything they do.
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"50 million or sit" sounds like a good line.
Yeah f**k those guys. I don't mind ADM leaving that much, but I hate how open their players have been regarding this transfer.
Lol Stuttgart are embarrassing City out there, I know it just a friendly

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I'll say it one last time; regardless of the position we need at least ONE player with positive mental attitude to spread the contagion within the squad.
Don't get me wrong we have excellent players; but no one IMHO with the balls to play outrageously confidently arrogant like Ibra did a few days ago against us, or like Eric the king did so well for us back in the day.
Forget football, we need human quality more. Introduce that in the side and with the footie class acts we already have, nobody can touch us.
They don't even need to be the Messi and Ronaldo of this world; a guy of Keano's or even Vinnie Jones personality will do for crying out loud.
Show some balls lads; time to bully back... NOW.

















# Manchester lalala, Manchester lalala #
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instead we got ppl wanting to leave and it spreads like virus in the team, If DDG or ADM wants out, kick them and that mentality out i dun care.

No player is irreplaceable.

I think these kind of disloyalties are affecting and inbalancing the whole team.
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^ Agree. Time to get rid of players whos thought are on RM or PSG.

You know, that's a really good point. I think the Spanish/South American contingency we do have (minus DDG at the moment, unfortunately) does bring the squad a good, friendly vibe. They seem to get along well.

But we do lack a certain attitude at the moment. Who in the squad to rival fans dislike for being arrogant AND good, like they did Cantona or Ronaldo? No one that I can think of. I think we're very likeable, but that's not the goal is it? Lol.
@Joeymac
Exactly.
Basti?
I think Memphis will fill out that role Joeymac. He's both good (will become great i hope) and has the arrogance to match
@Cheshire, I think Memphis could fulfill it one day too.

@Stret, I think Schweini has a certain amount of arrogance, but not at expense to his likability.
Dude didn't thought this forum would be dead like this... Common guys only one week left before the stat of the new campaign! Wake up !!!

Ok so lets talk about the formation for next week. LVG said that a 4-3-3 is more or less his expected style for the new season.

4-3-3:
De Gea


Darmian - Smalling - Blind - Shaw


Carrick - Herrera - Schneiderlin


Mata - Rooney - Depay


We need Herrera in that 3 man midfield. He brings creativity and him and Mata are much better when both are on the field.

I think we all know now that ADM is gone. We will lack his pace and skills but i hope Pereira and Januzaj can step up.
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Not sure about Carrick and Schneiderlin at the same time.
DDG
Darmian - Smalling - Blind/Rojo - Shaw
Carrick
Herrera - Schneiderlin
Mata - Rooney - Depay
--------------ddg
darmian-smalling-jones-shaw
-----carrick--schneiderlin
----mata--memphis---young
-----------rooney

thats what i expect to see, screw this idea of blind as cb.
Bad idea to put Carrick and Schneiderlin together. No mobility or pace. Plus Carrick's been shite in the preseason. He is not guaranteed a spot
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are you kidding? schneiderlin is very mobile. we don't have pace in midfield, herrera and schweinsteiger are both slow. carrick-schneiderlin pair conceded no goals all pre-season and imo we looked most solid with schneiderlin on the pitch. carrick made mistakes, he hasnt played since april and was injured, but i still think bastien is short on fitness and herrera is not as good as carrick in that deeper defensive role, as herrera is a more attacking player and carrick has better passing range and defensive disciplin. the middle two in that system are dms.

herrera didnt even play vs psg, he wont be starting vs spurs. basten was subbed as he was poor as the first half wore on, he's nowhere near fit enough. despite the mistakes, carrick played nearly the whole match so im pretty sure he will start.
dont see 2 DMs starting unless we are playing Barca, and such team doesnt exist in EPL. Not saying we wont play like that, but probably that is not something LVG has in mind.
Schneiderlin has pace, sure, and where you gonna use it on a field? pressuring the ball max, but that is all really he can do in his case. DMs are very limited after all, when it comes to running channels when staying out of position will put us in open for counter.

I honestly see this increasing our possession but again this will also mean being very slow on counters as well as attacking in general:

You are putting 2 DMs, 2 Wings, and you are left with two players up front. This was standard Fergie's point of view for how many years?

Guess what, fergie had players! to execute standard 4-4-2 vs slow/less experience opposition: low-mid table team. We dont have enough quality to emulate fergie.

We have Rooney, who we dont even know if he is in form or not. We have no 2nd choice striker, except Depay, which its not his natural position.
We have Young, who is trying to milk his way in first 11, but fails to do it this season, because lets face it: he showed nothing good in pre season. And we have Mata, who is not really a winger.

Thus putting 2 DMs means forcing yourslef playing variation of 4-4-2 which... exactly, we dont have players for. Our only option is 4-3-3 so far with occasional switch to 4-4-2 when we are dominating in score. and that 4-3-3 would consist of 1 DM, 2 box-to-box 2 semi-wingers/forward and 1 striker.
This new kit is sick. Can't wait to see the lads walking out on OT next wknd with these :)
A modern classic!
dat chevrolet part though...
This is the one player I want to see break into the team in 1-2 years from now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oKCMRqvlrs
Yup. A very good prospect. I think he can be a great CDM.
I think we are the least clinical top 4 side in any league across Europe.

We keep missing those easy chances, which should be buried easily by any top side. Just watched the video SIF posted below and in that video alone , we spurned so many clear cut chances. I think one of the reason for our downfall in recent years is due to being wasteful in front of goal.
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i agree,very wasteful as usual.


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