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A good story about Juan.

In other news, Martial is close to signing a new 5 year contract.
+1
I remember him and Silva playing for Valencia, they had a great chemistry and I wanted City to sign both of them. But he's one of those players that's hard to not like irrespective of who he plays for.
Not seen much of Malcom but isnt he a Rw? theres a few decent options out there like Sancho, Bailey, maybe bring Zaha back, what u guys think? if we dont sign one in the summer theres no hope for this board.

Edit. or we can just shift Valencia back to RW lol
Bring deepay back.lol
+1
It’s a shame Martial or Sanchez don’t fit on the right.
Memphis The Pie, a long shot taking winger would be nice
isn't Memphis more of a striker these days?
Are we going to sign anyone?if it was mou now,he will be asking for signing now imo..
We don't need to sign anyone atm, we need to assess who need to go and who to stay, especially Ole is not a permanent manager yet. So we better wait by the end of the season to make any major changes to the team.
+2
I don't think the staffs have a say in this and Woody is clueless. So no one leaves, no one comes.
maureen says Utd needs a structure and the failure of his tenure was due to Utd suppose lack of structure. yeah. right. he may be right to a certain extent but it sounds to me like hes pointing his fingers at others instead of himself. i don’t buy his rethoric that the modern football manager shouldn’t have a direct relationship with his players. that job should be left to DOF. he must be talking out of his arse. players are humans too with feelings and all. granted. they are paid obscene amount to kick a ball and should be totally professional. but that shouldn’t negate the facts that these players is a living breathing human being and not cold-hearted unfeeling individuals. and the way maureen says this it seems thats exactly what he expect of his players. and in that, hes the one who are behind times. and thats includes hes playing style. football has move on. its pass and move and forcing your opponents to lose their organisation by playing fast football not hoofing it up to your giant beanpole of a target man who can’t trap a ball properly for the life of him after 10-12 meaningless passes. and you distrust players that you yourself brought in. then you blame the board and threw tantrums when they refused to back you up. but they did give you nearly £400m to get the players of your choice, did they? and what happened at the other 2 big clubs and one not so big club that you managed? all ends-up in tears, innit? so it was always the clubs, the players, the structures fault. yeah. go take a sabbatical maureen and enjoy your money. and a long one at that. not just a year like Pep. you need at least 3 years and relearn football. the football world has left you behind. your a history to us and you should do like wise. good riddance
+2
Oh Maureen
You can't have it both ways. You can't say we are playing fast attacking football, the old Manchester way, and then say football has moved on. Football has moved on to the past?
+2
As a living breathing human I would appreciate some paragraphs!
+6
sorry abt the non-existence paragraph. that post was more like a rant to me🤦🏻‍♂️

@sif what i really meant was maureen football belongs in the dustbin. and certainly doesn’t belong at Utd. football is entertainment. its a show business. clubs need to win as well as entertain. more so for a club with a stature like Utd.
and maureen didn’t get that imo. its all about himself. maybe the players downed-tools during his reign. but what can you expect? keep on playing your hearts out week in-week out while a cloud of toxicity hovers over you? when your own manager belittle you week in-week out? when you were asked to play the position that you unfamiliar with? with the system that was unsuitable to your strength? with unhappy feeling?

his take on modern football management are full of s**t imo. so he advocates unfeeling, no-relation between players and manager? strictly professional devoid of emotions and human touch? no wonder players looked miserable when he was here.

yeah. he was a great football manager that has won plenty of vases. but he has no lasting legacy at any clubs he has managed. if he thinks hes so great a manager, why can’t he sees or failed to see the obvious with this Utd squad? that this squad can be clicked into high-gear with just a small tweaks and a bit of a pat in the back? why was it so difficult for him to do that?

this man ego is indeed at scary level. and the more he opens up his mouth, the more ridiculous he sounds. so stfu maureen

+1
These styles come and go. Just like fashion, what's considered old fashioned right might be popular again in the next decade, meanwhile we saw many bringing back the old styles making it popular.

Football is the same imo. Mou is definitely outdated, but maybe one day, his style will be popular again and he would shine again. But definitely not here not now.
I agree with what you are saying about mou, his ego, etc. I just get annoyed when people say xyz is outdated football.

I'm not saying some types of football arent better or worse to watch, I think we all want to be entertained. But I don't think there's only 1 kind of way to play football and win. You gotta play to your strengths.

And I agree mourinho's man-management was poor this season. Last season the players had belief, but this season he's complained about everyone and everything and created a toxic environment. Either he lost interest or was disillusioned with the lack of signings, or he thought he was invincible to the sack, idk. But it's a shame. I expected better from him. I still blame the board for giving him an early contract extension, which made mou relax a bit and not be on his best behavior, I think. And then not backing him in the window just created a mess, seen the wrong message to the manager and the squad, that we were not really expecting to compete for the tutke..
apparently one of spurs' criticisms of poch is he doesn't make changes during the game, and when he does it comes very late in the second half

vs us he changed the system at half time, but was that because sissokho got injured and he was forced to play a different shape? something to think about.
How much did they actually change shape as a result of Sissoko's injury? They had the diamond with Winks at the base, and Lamela came on. I remember the announcers saying something like Eriksen dropping to the right side of the diamond. Did Dele move down with Winks? I seem to remember him still supporting Son more on the left. I just can't really remember them vividly switching to a 2-man base unless Dele did drop, I just remember them being everywhere in midfield.
We went 4-2-3-1 with Son left, Lamela right and Dele behind Kane. Eriksen with Winks in the pivot and FBs held back.
Yeah eriksen went deep, and then became absolutely free to pick out passes from deep. He'd get the ball and no one would be within 10 yards of him.
Yep good call.

Here's a solid tactical analysis of the Spurs game.

https://youtu.be/fYLwjbDC2Gw
Tottenham's top 4 spot will be there for the taking IMO. They have had a couple of losses in the last few games which hurts a teams confidence, they are very short in midfield, Sissoko and Kane are also injured now. They'll have to play Watford, Chelsea, Leicester and Dortmund in the upcoming matches which takes a lot of energy out of an already thin and injury hit squad. I expect them to drop some more points in the league and Chelsea and United will have the chance overtake them.

My prediction for the top 6 at the end of the season:

1- City
2- Liverpool
3- Chelsea
4- United
5- Tottenham
6- Arsenal
:D
+1

edit: whoops, thought this was the premier league forum.. ignore me!
Kane and Son could be a big miss for them.
Chelsea maybe. United that's wishful thinking.
Spurs usually do well in 2nd half of the season. They dont have tough fixtures for next few games in PL. But they are playing cup games which makes it tough when there are not enough players to rotate the squad.
haha fancy a bet ERFANERi?
No bet is fancy
Missing two of there starters when fixtures start piling up will be tough for them
Alright Paddy. If United finish above Spurs you put United's logo as your profile picture for a week. If spurs finish higher I'll put Spurs' logo as mine for a week. Do we have a bet?
I think Paddy usually bets a bit more than that.
I'm not too worried about the fixtures ahead. The team is still in a pretty good shape, despite some absences.
That's such a weak bet. How about whoever's team finishes top 4, the other person has to put their logo and change their main supporting team to the opposite team.

So if United finish top 4, Paddy has to put United logo and change his team to United until the new season and vice versa.
+1
I'm not really in a position to bet bigger than that :)) we're still 7 points behind Spurs.
It's just a wild guess based on some observations.
+1
How about put on a man utd or spurs shirt and wear it for half of next season haha
let's do SanchezAlexis's idea. logo and main supporting team until the new season. Do we have am accord ERFANERi?
You're so brave huh? :D Would you be so confident if we were level on points?
+2
I se Chelsea losing top 4.
I repeat ERFANERI, do we have a deal? come on, put your logo where your mouth is
Having Spurs as my supporting team is a nightmare for me. I'm sure you would understand if you had watched your team lift trophy after trophy while feeling sorry for those who win nothing ;) I'll come to the Spurs page and look for you the moment things get closer to my guess (I'll even give you a three point gap as a head start no problem).
Still a whole 5 days to play again!!!!!!!
+2
We all love what Ole has bring to this team but let’s not forget the 3 man behind him aslo Phelan, Carrick and Mckenna. We have 4 men that knows everything about the club and the players. The board should think about them before bringing in a new manager.
+4
Phelan has been crucial i think ,played a major part so far and hes got the experience the OLE lacks atm. Hope he stays next season , dont know what the deal was really .
+2
Phelan has definitely helped alot because he knows more about the club than anyone else there atm.
I would want to keep all current stuff for next season including ole..i dont want poch,zidane is a fancy signing, but like mou he is not a long term manager, ole is because he loves Manchester United unlike poch and zidane.
It's too early to say but maybe Ole should stay and do Zidane with United?!
+4
is the board gona have patience if or when Ole loses 3-4 games in a row !? tought job for any manager as there are high expectations here. time will tell.
But NO to Zidane .
I know Dave saves but Ander has been exeptional, from intercepting to linking up play,to putting his body on the line , he bassically works his socks off for this team and never moans about anything when he aint selected, TOP player.
Great win for us , credit to Ole and the coaching staff for turning this mess around so far.
His touch and awareness has been really great too. How about that no-look pass in the 90th though, haha.
More Passion than Passion fruit
+1
Herrera also has a little bit of dark arts to him which makes him an invaluable player.


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