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Thumbs this up if you think Moyes should get sacked
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Seriously ?
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What an absolute joke of side United have turned into. Who's to blame the board, the manager, SAF???

Combination of all three really. f*****g around when it comes to transfer windows, buying the wrong players and playing them out of position. Not addressing the midfield for agggggeeeeessss. Playing players that don't deserve to wear the shirt week in week out.

Don't care what players Moyes brings in. Moyes will still call the shots and force us them to play s**t football. Listen to the Everton players; Barkley and Baines talk about Moyes setting them up to defend. That's not UNITED! That's not who we are. Playing for draws at Old trafford. GROW SOME BALLS MOYES!

Apart from Arsenal all the top 6 teams dismantled Moyes this season. The way this club is going we can forget about qualifying for top 4 every year, we will always be on the fringes at best. Mourinho, Rodgers, Pelligrini and Wenger are all better managers, that's just a simple fact. Moyes is delusional and the club is in crisis. Do we really want to trust this midtable manager with his stone age football, who clearly can't motivate his players.

"In Moyes we're f****d!"

Van Gaal save us!
We did not play s**t football today. It was actually something i havent seen this season. We were just toothless. We gave away awful goals, i mean these are goals that you see in league 2. Did we really play stone age football today? If anything Everton played like how they played under Moyes. They played direct and used the wings. It was brilliant from Martinez, he knew exactly what our weakness was. So aleast today shows Moyes is not just about wing play or crossing or long ball. That is all. I cant disagree with anything else you said. Moyes has been poor.
Fair enough maybe s**t football is too strong. But for a large part of the season we have been really poor, defensively and up front, the last few games being an exception.

It's not just Moyes, can you honestly say that phil neville and the other guys deserve to be the background staff of one of the most successful clubs in the world? But then Moyes chose the back room staff. Surely he could have done better?

I guess we all agree
So that's 6 points from a possible 36 against the top 6 this season. Only one win against the top 6 coming against Arsenal at home with draws against Chelsea (home) and Arsenal and Spurs (away) making up the rest of the points. We've managed just 6 goals in 12 games against the top 6 this season.

That's an appalling record. There was major question marks over Moyes record in big games before coming here but you could to some degree dismiss that record as you could argue his platform wasn't the best at Everton but its looking pretty conclusive that his approach against better opposition just isn't good enough.

However, its both very easy and very tempting to just blame Moyes for the tragedy that has been this season. It cant be all his fault, he was a good manager at Everton, maybe not amazing but he was solid, he hasn't just turned into a terrible manager in one season.

If we're honest with ourselves what's happened this season has been coming, Robin and Javier were ultra clinical last season and won us a lot of games on their own, our defence was s**t, our wings were s**t, Carrick had his best ever season but other than that our central midfield was s**t and only Rafael and De Gea made a good account of themselves.

For too long now the growing issues at the club have been ignored or simply glossed over, the lack of replacements for players like Scholes, Giggs and Ronaldo or better yet the lack of midfield signings all together while we bleed a prospect like Pogba, the failure to transition the defence from Rio, Nemanja and Pat who have all aged out and generally poor or underwhelming transfer activity.

There are some good players in this squad but its so disjointed, a lot of good attackers and no good midfielders and a defence past its best with big question marks still hanging over the young centre halves with no quality replacement for Pat at all.

I'm not making excuses for Moyes, I have made my feelings clear on him, I don't think he is the man for the job but he should not be getting all the blame here and it seems he is the one taking responsibility for it all.

The players have got to stand up and be counted, they're the title winners here not Moyes, he is on a learning curve they're not, no Fergie to wrap them in his coat and protect them from the big bad world of f*****g scrutiny eh, the application from some of them this season has been a disgrace, mentally they've sunk so easily its been a joke, if we go out on a whim and sack Moyes who is to say anyone else will get a better response from some of them, we could easily have a case of manager attachment here.

A part of me genuinely feels for Moyes, his career has gone from promising to near ruin in 12 months, if he fails here he will never get a chance at the top again, its aged him terribly, I cant help but feel he has inherited a poisoned job in many ways, this squad needs so much work you just cant deny it.

If we're sticking by him it is likely we will need to cull the squad this summer, I think a lot of people are underestimating just how many need to go and come in, how many of the Everton 11 would walk into the United side?, he needs his own players, simple as that, he needs the dressing room to be his not Fergies if we're ever going to see what he can really do, I want to blame him for everything but I know in myself that its too easy and tempting to do that.
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We havnt played great football for 3 seasons now. We dont seem to have an identity anymore. For the last couple of seasons it was "the team who won games even when they play bad". Ever since Ronaldo left, we have bough players like Bebe,Obertan, Young, and Valencia to replace him. Who did we replace Scholes with? No one. We were constantly playing Giggs and Carrick in the middle for the last couple of years. Then we saw the emergence of Pogba and we thought maybe he is the replacement for Scholes that we were waiting for. Nope. We let him go too for right or wrong reasons. We brought a 38 year old scholes back from retirement. We have been faking around with this squad for some time now. We used to get away with it because we had the best manager in world who knew how to get the best from his players.

Fast forward to present and we give Moyes a great gift for his appointment by buying faking no one in his first window and then Moyes panics and buys Fellaini(lol). Moyes has made every mistake possible as a manager but Moyes took the keys of a team that was breathing its last breath. A squad that won the title because of SAF who knew this was going to be his last one and there was no way he was loosing the title. Add to that the hunger from RVP to win a title, it was the perfect combination.

So has Moyes been the reason for our downfall? Yes. But looking at it from the hind side it has been coming and we were stupid to not see it coming.
Well, I blame him for everything. I have no qualms with that.
Those are his tactics after all, but more importantly and in my own opinion, what many fail to recognise as crucial: That's the man he is in terms of the spirit in which he leads his troops.

Don't tell me Fergie taught his squad how to play footie. At that level in our club you are good or excellent. Can't play? Then you're out quick. Or more likely never signed in the first place. So let's agree we have a good team. Why aren't they suddenly performing?

Have you never heard of contaminating influences? Usually when it's a player it's easy to solve: Out they go ( see Keano, etc.) Why shouldn't it be the same for a manager?

Don't act all surprised. I was always against him as our manager for that very reason; he does not have the stature. We're exactly where we are supposed to be - a slightly better than average mid table squad that perfectly reflects our manager's psyche.
I agree Yaldho, don't get me wrong people i am not absolving Moyes neither, he has made plenty of mistakes.

But what's happened this season has been coming, maybe not as bad as this but a struggle has been on the way.
That's it. MOYES OUT! Seen enough. Still no signs of improvement. We are Manchester United, not a mid table team. We couldn't even manage a shot on target in the 1st half. The difference between us at 7th position this season and Liverpool at 7th position last season is that Liverpool were terribly unlucky last season. I remember some game where they had around 30 shots on goal but couldn't manage to score. They had quite a few games like this. But today, we couldn't even create chances even though we had Mata, Rooney, Kagawa and Nani. That's been the story of our season so far. Also, Baines said that during Moyes' time at Everton, they were taught how to repel the opposition. But Martinez has taught them to play their own football irrespective of the opposition. Despite all the financial difficulties, they managed to be around 5-6th in the table during Moyes' time. But Martinez has changed their attitude and has made them to dream more and aim higher which I don't think Moyes would have ever done. Moyes looks so demotivated himself, forget about motivating his players. We at Manchester United are one of the best teams in world football and this guy has made us an absolute joke. From losing in pre season friendlies against teams whose names weren't heard before to breaking all sorts of records from all those years and talking s**t in the press conferences, Moyes has done all but good. I knew this would be a transition period for us but never had I imagined we would be so far off from the top 4. This guy deserves to be sacked. Period
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Are you F****NG kidding me?

Moyes: "I thought we were the better team."

Get him out, Jesus!

Edit: Carragher: "If David Moyes thinks Man United played well in that first half, I'd worry for Man United."

We're worried Jamie!
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He's a massive tool dragging us down into pure mediocrity.
bbut but give him time guys. he is the chosen one. lol he is a laughable manager. we were not the better team in anyway. he has to go but getting a good replacement wont be easy. we can just end up with another tool.
I have a feeling even with new world class summer signings, we won't perform as well as we should. Moyes may be a good manager, but a good manager is not what we need. We need a game changer, a winner.
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he is a good manager but not one suitable for a world class team like united. he breaks way too easily under pressure.
I stopped watching the match after the 10th minute. The team is f*****g clueless. Moyes has no tactical intuition, zero vision. We should make a bid for Van Gaal. Klupp ain't coming here. He by far is the best available choice.
We should have bid for Mourinho. I'm so ashamed that I was against this. Now that ship has set sail. He could have brought us a couple of Real mid fielders instead of bringing the microphone head.
+2
Nothing has changed. We need some reinforcements...big time!
Chicharito has massively improved his touch/dribbling skills, he and Welbeck are the only ENERGetic guys on the field, others are way too lethargic:(
hope Chicha stays with us:
chicha should've started the game, Moyes is an idiot! rooney plays awful against Bayern, Moyes admits he made a mistake by starting him and then he plays rooney agaist everton
moyes,you son of a b**** . Why can you not sub rooney? why do you have to lick his b**ls?? Welbeck showed far more energy and commitment than him in those few minutes.Noone really gave a sh*t. Rooney was aweful,kagawa not upto his standard ,mata was bad as well.only chicha ,fletcher and welbeck were good.
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