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Should shaw start against basel??Damn this boy need chances!!
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We need to qualify so i doubt he'll get his chance. Moreover, if the rumours about his attitude being poor in the reserves is true, his time at Utd may be over.
Lmao did you guys see the UEFA team of the "century"?
Defenders - Ramos and pique(lol) selected ahead of Maldini or Cannavaro

The midfield is like a "pick the odd one out " question: Xavi, Iniesta and ...... Gerrard

No place for zidane or Ronaldinho. Hahaha
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Shortlists of any kind are usually difficult, painful and fail to please everyone at the best of times but this list makes no sense whatsoever. How you disregard Zidane, Pirlo, Kaka, etc. and pick Gerrard is beyond me. I'm not even going to go into United greats to form this argument.

Also, defenders. I can see Ramos being in there. But how does Pique make it? How do none of the Italian greats make it in the defense?
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Lol Gerrard wouldn't even make in into the team of the decade...maybe not even year
I think you guys don't know this but UEFA made this list by selecting players that were on their team of the week the most. That's the only criteria they used. They've actually given exact numbers of why Gerrard and not say Kaka or Ronaldinho made this team of theirs.
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Okay it makes more sense on why players Maldini didn't get included since the UEFA team of year didn't start till 2001. But still doesn't explain Gerrard when he's only been on it 3 times.
Was't Iniesta in team of year last season in-spite of having average season with 4/5 assits and 2 goals in 40+ games? Great player..but it was joke seeing him in XI for last years team of the year
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Somebody's jealous ;P
lol twitter is up in arms. uefa must stop making polarised lists just for the sake of it, what's to be gained by announcing a biased list such as this one? They can atleast have a fan or collegiate vote

imo ronaldinho and zidane in their prime were arguably better than iniesta and Thierry Henry
Interesting to read Mourinho's analysis of Martial and Rashford playing together. He noted that both like to play on the left and that we didn't have a lot of attacking balance until Rashford and Mata switched, allowing Rashford to attack through the center-left.

What are everyone's thoughts about them playing together? I know in theory it's what we all seem to want, but I think the balance issues are a real concern, especially considering the fact that our fullbacks don't give us consistent quality width.
4-4-2 is the solution. if everyone works hard it can work. then all 4 could play centrally but we really need a good winger. defensive minded as well as offensive. otherwise jose will play 2 left backs lol. not sure jose would fancy it i can see it wotking with the right mindset. lukaku rashford. ibra martial. then mix and match as needed. wow. mouthwatering. mou wont do it tho. too attacking
We have the attacking players to play a 442, and the Pogba/Matic midfield could work. But I don't think we have the defense to do it; the fullbacks hold us back man, no matter how good they play. Too much space between them and the CBs at times.
i think we could make it work with young and valencia on the wings. darmain and tuanzebe at fullback. something like that. i think we lack cohesion. our defense is great once we havea run with sam 2 cb. its already good. we only conceded a few goals. the system/formation is an issue for me
I think 4-4-2 will work vs smaller teams.
Now we have Zlatan Lukaku, Martial, Rashford Mata and Mkhi competing for 2 or 3 spots up front. I think Zlatan will start most games like last season, Lukaku may be used more on the right.
I think Lukaku has a decent cross - he has two key crosses this season from the right wing including one for rashford to set up pogba's goal
who buys a 75 million pound striker to play him on the right wing? lukaku will play down the center. ibra will probably play cf in behind where rooney used to play since he's actually technically gifted, is a great passer and has good vision/creativity.
From what I saw lukaku and Rashford were switching from positions but when Rashford was in the middle he would tend to drift to the left more. This left Valencia isolated but this also gave him more space

We can play 4 out of the attacking players at most without leaving our defense and midfield too exposed( not counting miki cause he's just been so bad)

yeah it would be redicilious for luka to play right. but with 2 upfront thats not needed. also no no10 in there so miki and mata would have to play on the right but mata wouldnt play much in that system he would lose game time
what a joy to watch pogba . man we missed him badly. I am sure we wont be 8pts behind man city if we had pogba. We are so reliant on his creativity. We should try buy another midfielder in january and lb. hopefully we get danny rose from spurs looks like he could leave them.
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What I loved about the match was how Lukaku scored. His shot was as ruthless as it could be. This man has what it takes to be the next Andy Cole.It's so good to have Zlatan and Pogba back :)
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Pogba plays with so much swagger on the ball, almost like his just dancing on the field. Incredible player.
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I wish he didn't "waste" his time and energy with this 'swagger' and instead directed it into better, more consistent performances. He plays well, no doubt, but he loses the ball sometimes trying to hold onto longer than he needs to. People forget this was the case in the first few games this season because we were so garbage while he was out. People forget he lost the ball a couple of times against Newcastle too because he scored and we put 4 past 'em.

It may be an unpopular opinion but I dislike him at United because he makes it too much about himself. I don't believe that if United is having a bad day that he can pull us through like you would expect a player of his stature might.
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But Kiran, who else does for us right now? Maybe Ibra on a good day, but otherwise Pogba is the best chance we've got to turn a game around with an individual performance. We need that, and he's only 24, so the way that he will develop into *that* kind of player is to continue playing with swagger.
Could not possibly disagree with you more Kiran. Absolutely crazy if you can't see that Pogba is our most important player. Completely incorrect that he makes it too much about himself
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https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/dispossessed

You can go to that site and look at the 'Tackled' stats for the whole league for different seasons. You can look at the 2016/17 season since he played a larger percent of that one than the current one. Compare him to other midfielders. Kante is nowhere near him in that regard. You might argue that Pogba is more of an attacking threat than Kante. Well, Pogba lost the ball as many times or more than attackers like De Bruyne, Aguero, etc.

You can look at this season's stats, he has already lost us the ball as many times as Ozil, Mane, Matic and Aguero. All have played more than Pogba so far and except Matic they are all more attacking than Pogba.

Pogba's passing stats are tidier than they would be if he tried to pass the ball more than he does. Look, I'm not here to convince anyone of my views. If people feel joy watching him on the pitch and feel confident that he can bring us a 'W', then who am I to rain on your parade. All I am saying is that he can do a lot better and I am not giving him credit for what he produces today.
He loses the ball because he also takes chances. That's fine with me since we have Matic in there as well. We need his creativity and willingness to get by a player. The only CM with more dribbles completed per game is Coutinho(3.7) to Pogba(3.2)

He is also 10th of all players in the Prem with 2.2 key passes a game along with 3 goals and 3 assists in 5 games played.

Obviously everyone has their own opinion but to say you dislike him completely at United??? If we were to lose him for the season, no doubt in my mind we would be no higher than the 3rd/4th spot come the end of the season
Pogba is definitely the best player we have apart from DDG and Zlatan. Even if he loses the ball a few times, he brings steel in the middle and the bunch of games without him are enough evidence to show how unbalanced and simply disastrous our XI is without him.

And he did pull the team through for the first goal which turned the game around in our favor. Though I agree he should produce more quality in big games. Last season he was poor vs the big teams
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If you actually watched our games the difference with and without Pogba is like day and night. Just look at the results before and after Pogba got injured. We went from scoring 4 goals to scrappy wins. The second he's back we put 4 past against the opponent

One player can make a huge difference look at Argentina with and without Messi
@BearWithFish true, even with Messi they cant win in finals
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pogba is no messi though in terms of influence. you dont have to look at the stats to see he losses the ball because he hugs it too much. he has to release a tad earlier. hes a powerhouse for us in midfield but hes gota learn to move the ball.
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Without Messi they would have failed to qualify.
dont matter 2 different players. 2 different footballing sides.
i still prefer to see Carrick/Tuanzebe at the back than those 2 yesterday. Glad Rojo is back he can pair with Bailly. I think they are our best centre back now. Jones is doing what he does best getting injured. Lindelof well i don't know. i want to believe but he looks completely loss at the back.
That guy could convert to dm he has good passing ability for a cb.
Pogba is THE difference
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indeed. but it also scares me that we are flat without pogba in our midfield. we need to get at least one or two more of his quality in the middle.
did we try getting de broyne? As far as I remember we never cared, I wonder why
He cost a shitload at the time. In hindsight he's well worth it
Looking back at Mike's goal, its amazing how he realised was offside, jumps back onside and attacked the ball again with his header. Great awareness. What a cross though from Young's left!! He has been our best crosser all season.
isnt that scary, that Young is like our best crosser? we still dont look far into solving this problem.

I think we need to get less experienced players like Valencia go to play with reserves until he gets more experience how to cross, and bring someone legit like Fosu Mesiah back to the team
I think Lindelof will come good if given time. He plays good balls out from defence and we do not have any other player who can come close to his ability in this department.
He almost made up for his mistake by sending a great ball through for Lukaku only for Luk to miss the clear chance

They important point though is that its tough to get playing time ahead of Smalling, Jones, Bailey and Rojo all competing for the same spots..
He almost look like a DM than a CB yesterday :P. Shaky at times, but he will settle over time.

Once he is settled, injury will come after him just like any of our CB.
I thought he had good game yesterday. Apart from that mistake which led to the goal he was doing ok. TBH I feel he was better than Smalling in defense. Isn`t it?
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We’re a team in transition we can’t afford to give anyone time. He’s going to cost us games because he’s an error waiting to happen, every time he starts.
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I think he just lacks composure and looks panicky especially on the counter. Perhaps he wasn't used to play under such a high line and has to backpaddle.

I think Rio ferdinand mentioned ytd that, pogba and matic also failed to track back fast enough on the counter. this left us with 2v4 situation. so nothing much lindelof could have done even if he stayed on his feet.
He's a ball-playing CB so he has utility to us. But he has to be making the best of his chances. Maybe give him some games in the remainder of the EFL Cup.


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