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http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2014/Nov/Radamel-Falcao-welcomed-back-to-first-team-training-by-Manchester-United-team-mates.aspx

apparently we have *8* games in december, wow. we will need everyone back. good to see him back in training.
With Blind out for a while. I would like to see Pearson get a few first team minutes. He looks promising. Good touch, passing and tenacious in the tackle.

Also, any news on Lingards return from injury?
We will need a significant lead in the game before we sub out Carrick for Pearson as we need Carrick to control the game to protect our defense.
Lingard is set to return on Dec 8th when we play against Southampton.
Rothwell will get the call up before pearson
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Best comment from the Liverpool page right now: "we played at the same level as ludogorets" LMAO

Even funnier is the fact they pretty much parked the bus for the entire second half; against Ludogorets! :D
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I rather be in the CL and play poorly that not be in it at all tbh. Liverpool still has a decent chance of going through, so I wouldn't laugh at them too much mate.

That said, ever since that idiot Balotelli sent that tweet where he was laughing at us, Liverpool has been losing/drawing every game. Karma?
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Really Badge? But that's rather a Championship team mentality, ready to be relegated right after being promoted. Or if you are Arsenal chasing the league title dream but forever bound to 4th place.

I would rather not be in the competition for a year than become the laughing stock while the world is watching. At least we can build up the team to be good enough for when we do get back in the competition and really give it a go then.
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Well no, I don't mean just settling for making it to the group stages, of course I'd want to go further in the competition. But yes, if I had a choice, I'd rather get knocked out in the group stages than not be in the competition at all. Being in the CL not only helps the club a lot financially, but it's also a chance for the team to measure up against the top teams in Europe, like LvG said a month or so ago.

I think it's way more embarrassing to not be in the CL than to be in it and do poorly. Even the best teams underperform in Europe. We went out in group stages to Basel a few years ago, Chelsea did too, so did Juve, etc. It happens.

I dunno bro, I used to find it hilarious when Liverpool fans laughed at us when Basel knocked us out of the group stages when they weren't even in the competition, I'd just rather not do the same to them, you know?
And Liverpool still have a chance of making it through to the knockout stages
What happened to you Badge? The mod status is taking a toll on you lol

@Drde I like the last comment on their forum better:

"Porn studios have more clean sheets than Liverpool!"
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@Drde159 don't you forget last year when we were the laughing stock; some things have a habit of biting you in the arse. For Liverpool to qualify back in Europe after being five years out is quite a feat. These things can take time and there is no question they will improve.

In regards to use at the moment we need key players to get back to full fitness and then we can start stringing together some decent results but that looks a long way away. At the moment the way the table is top 4 could be quite hard to achieve with so many teams competing for that spot so consistency will be important for us!
I'd rather focus on the EPL only than be embarrassed in the CL by a low tier club. Being in a competition to get knocked out? What's the joy in that. You can't honestly side with Liverpool on that basis lol...
(You really bed well in the mod role eh? :P)

I agree it makes sense financially to be in the CL every year, regardless of performance. But losing is never good for the moral of the team and it will also have consequences on the team's league form.
And because we were in it year after year, this freak absence will only make our will stronger to get back in it, instead of taking it for granted.

For Liverpool though, they were absent for a long time and since it looks unlikely they would come back next year, you would have thought their team would give more of a damn and give it a real try but no, they adopt a complacent mentality and got their ass kicked. So no sympathy from me there.
what do you guys think of gundogan? has had a good run of games since last season (hence proving his fitness). controlling the game right now vs arsenal: 6 tackles, 2 dribbles, going to have over 100 passes before game is over. plenty of skill, tenacity, and has got a decent shot and some pace.

he's still young, just 24, and has a year left on contract this summer. looks a bit bigger than he was at peak, but by summer he should be back to fighting weight. he's still a quality player and will be WC imo if he can stay fit.
Massive fan, if he stays fit over the course of the season then he will be well worth a bid.
yes but if we go for a CM, LVG will try for Strootman first though
strootman is already in the bag lads lol.

i'm just thinking about the whole squad and having healthy competition.

i think we are moving away from having a million wingers to having a strong solid base of central midfielders, so i think thats where we will continue to reinforce (along with defense) so we may get more than 1 cm.

rvp, young, jones, evans(?), de gea, fletcher, cleverley, etc will be down to 1 year or less on contract in the summer. assuming a couple go, we will have space to re-invest and i think we may end up focusing on CM (and defense of course).
According to manutd.com last night was Herrera's return from injury.
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I'd be quite perplexed and disappointed at the same time if a manager like LVG would fail to see the value of a talent like Herrera and specially after such a start to his United career. But this eases the concern.
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it's their mistake, he wasn't injured since west brom, according to LvG. he's been in full training for a while now, had 45 minutes vs west brom and has been on the bench for the last 4 or so games.
It seem we are about to make an offer to bring Odegaard to United in january. Madrid has also offered him a contract which liverpool have offered him a trial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBwAU3Tlawo
i read he's going to madrid. marca claims he's basically already signed. looks like they will use zidane's star power to attract europe's brightest talents.

if madrid dont get him i think we may be at a disadvantage to liverpool because he's a liverpool fan. kid's quality, already a full international at age 15. surprised barca are not after him but i suppose they feel they are set after landing halilovic (or maybe they cant sign him after their ban?).
I was pissed we didn't go for Halilovic. But i think we could use solskjaer to our advantage.
im not even sure how madrid could sign him. i thought they had to wait until he was 18 to sign players? i thought only british teams can sign them at age 16.
he could sign for their youth team since he is a EU citizen but cant sign a professional contract till he is 18.
@Sif , He had a trial with us but nothing much happend after that , TBH I tried to follow this kids transfer but soon had to give up after he was apparently signed by Madrid , Barcelona , arsenal , Liverpool , Chelsea , united , city , yup pretty much everyone signed him LOL
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^So basically he's the new Hazard? :P
He had a trial with us last year as well
herrera's performance in the reserves:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMqw3hB2pNA

comfortable 5-0 victory. periera, adnan, herrera, keane, janko, pearson, evans etc played. fairly strong team.

in other news we've loaned out reece james until january and evans could return vs hull this week.
Hopefully Herrera will be back in the 1st team for our next match.
David Moyes shouts “Stefano!” at his Real Sociedad team... Real Sociedad don't have any players called Stefano

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/early-doors/video--hilarious-highlights-of-david-moyes--first-game-as-real-sociedad-boss-112724938.html

this guy has turned into a comedy gold
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lol can't believe some still think that we should have kept him :D
If I didn't know the context, I would have thought a master went to play catch with his dog in a park and the dog simply ignored its master because he forgot its name.

"Stefano? (Is it) Stefan? Stefan! (or is it) Granero? Granero? (no, I'm sure its) Stefano! [Asking his friend] This is Chory? Go Chory, Go Chory! Come on Chory, Chory! Come on Chory! (wait its not working, lets try) Alberto! (Chory sounded better,) Come on Chory! Play play play!"
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Manguero City and Erikham Spurs are so one man team... Don't want to admit it but I'm kinda jealous...
another evidence that shows the arrogant neuer never performs when his team needs him most...

if he's such a great goalie, then tell me at least a few occasions where he single-handedly saved his team to a draw or 3 points...

i can easily count for de gea...

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Mate how many times will you tell us you think he's overrated?
You can't force your opinions on others.

You can easily count for DDG because our defense is absolute garbage and he has to save more chances than Neuer does, but when he has to face actual chances, Neuer very often gets the job done.

The first goal was a penalty and the other two were one of the deadliest strikers in the world all by himself inside the penalty box. No keeper could have saved those
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@Theatreofdream Your comment shows how bias you really are lol.
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BIAS-ED!

I agree with Theatreofdream. Neuer failed BM badly tonight. Arrogant asshole. Should have done better on both of city's goals.
Kind of like De Gea did against Arsenal in similar, nay, worse situations.
Aguero one-on-one in the box is always going to be favoured, so I don't blame any keeper if he scores on them in those situations. That being said, when I watched the replays I did think that Nauer could have tried more. He could have and should have attacked Nauer. It's always harder for a striker to score when under pressure from the keeper.

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If Neuer barged in on him, he would have shat his pants like he does regularly for argentinate, and bottled it as always
The 1st Goal was a penalty and Neuer dived the right way but it was well placed.

The 2 Goal Aguero was open close to the halfway line so if Neuer had came out Aguero could have just easily chipped it.

The 3rd Goal Boateng lost the ball right outside the box and Aguero only took one touch before shooting, so it was hard to come out for it.

I think you guys have some HIGH expectations for a GK if you are expecting them to save those shots against one of the most lethal forwards in the world.
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Odds are none of them have played keeper in their life. They don't realise how little time you have to make decisions. Neuer can't just barge him, he'll be sent off. He dived the right way for the 2nd goal(in off the post, so right in the corner!) He had zero time to set himself for the 3rd cos it was a defensive stuff up and the penalty was perfectly struck, hard into the side netting and he STILL nearly saved it.

You want to blame someone, blame Pep. It's his philosophy that caused the Bayern defense to be caught so high up the pitch at 0-0 knowing full well that Aguero is no slouch. You'd think the 2 times he was offside would've been a big enough hint to drop back but no, the last BM defender was past the halfway line, which is of course the point where you are no longer offside. The 3rd goal as well, Pep's obsession with possession bit him on the ass, that's the only reason a CB would attempt to control the ball in that situation and not simply boot the crap out of it anywhere but their own 18 yard box.
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biased? Seems to me it's all of you that are biased, with desperate attempt of defending him saying no goalie can ever stop that, bla bla bla.... to me that’s an opinion, not a fact...

in football, there is no such thing as "impossible", there is only "improbable"

De Gea's one-on-one saved against hazard was nearly improbable by any measure, but he did it...

but again, that's not my point, my point has always been "just tell me a few occasions where he single-handedly carried his team"

I am not biased because I indeed havent seen him doing that... it's maybe because I don’t follow bundeliga/ germany national team closely, but whenever I do, I never ever, not even once, see him does that... so please, help me change my mind... if you can...
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Hazard, as opposed to Aguero, completely messed that chance up though. Aguero finished the last 2 chances flawlessly, while Hazard's shot was savable. So were the Wilshere and the Naismith one on ones that De Gea saved. Had those been Aguero, 9 out of 10 times they would've gone it.

Here's one match that you should remember of Neuer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rW2N2nPpEk
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@Theatreofdream Neuer saved 2 penalties from Ronaldo and Kaka in the penalty shootout at the 11/12 Semi Final vs Real Madrid.

Neuer made a save with his leg from a shot inside the box vs Borrusia Dortmund in the 12/13 UCL Final.

This season Neuer made a save vs Dortmund with his leg 1on1 vs Aubameyang, Neuer made a save with his leg 1on1 vs Wolfsburg, Neuer made a save with his leg 1on1 vs CSKA Moskow, and all 3 of those matches where won by a 1 goal difference.
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@toruhyuga

ok those are some hard cold facts, he's decent enough then.. world best? mmehhhh... diego lopez is better
He's world class, but TOD is right about this match. He could have done better on all three goals. It's all about predicting the striker's shot. 2nd and 3rd goal were well placed but I think DDG could have saved both. He's brilliant at predicting one on ones.
there is impossible btw, we can make calculations with physics. there are physically impossible things.
I can only laugh at people who think Neuer is overrated.He's world's best followed by Courtois imo
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wouldnt be calling him overrated if he was a united player.considering he was our first target for goalkeepers when VDS was about to retire
neuer has one very visible weakness. he doesnt cover shots on the ground very well, the goals we scored against him were low and hard. he doesnt use his feet well enough and he's a tall lad and doesnt get to the ground very quickly..but anything in the air is virtually his, and he almost saved aguero's penalty. would have gotten there if it wasnt hit so accurately and forcefully into the side of the goal.

brings us back to the tie last season where welbeck tried to chip neuer when i can guarantee you the staff prepared everyone to hit low on the ground, as that was intell we used while neuer was still at schalke so it was well known.

aguero's two goals from open play were low drives and the first one was perfect placement, the second one took advantage of neuer being poor saving with his feet (unlike our spanish dave).
I am on the side of TheaterOfDream & Cheshire on this one.

You folks are giving Aguero too much credit here - his conversion rate is not 9/10, far from it. He usually has 50% shots on target and has missed as many as scored in 1-on-1 situations if you've watched all games. Costa has a better conversion rate. Aguero gets into dangerous positions more often.

My point is, (and maybe what Theatre is trying to say) is that Neuer is not as good as saying "I deserve the Ballon D'or" when players like De Gea are under appreciated by the mass media in general inspite of clearly putting in better, more impactful performances. The yard stick is biased to begin with.

Neuer has a world class 10 in front of him. De Gea is carrying his team at the moment in so many ways. If De Gea had let in 3 goals the media would had taken a massive dump on him already. Neuer, well since he doesn't model in his underwear gets away scott free.
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