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“The result is so sh*t." ~ Jurgen Klopp
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If I know dzeko would play like this next season! Then we shouldn't go for cavani . I hope i see this Nasri next season
Problem is Dzeko will be going up the likes of Thiago Silva and Hummels in the CL not a U18 defender and a 19yo midfielder in defense.
Good news, Aguero extends his contract till 2017
http://www.mcfc.com/News/Team-news/2013/May/Aguero-signs-new-deal
http://www.mcfc.com/News/Team-news/2013/May/Aguero-signs-new-deal
its funny when players sign or extend their contract with city people call them mercenaries
Nobody call utd players mercenries
Wayne Rooney - £250,000
Robin van Persie - £200,000
Rio Ferdinand - £115,000
Nemanja Vidic - £90,000
Ashley Young - £120,000
Luis Nani - £90,000 or more
Patrice Evra - £80,000
Tom Cleverley - £75,000
Ryan Giggs - £75,000
Javier Hernandez - £75,000
Shinji Kagawa - £80,000
Antonio Valencia - £90,000
Michael Carrick - £80,000
David De Gea - £70,000
Danny Welbeck - £75,000
Anderson --£80,000
Darren Fletcher - £80,000
Jonny Evans - £65,000
Andres Lindegaard - £45,000
Chris Smalling - £50,000
Phil Jones - £50,000
Rafael da Silva - £50,000
Paul Scholes - £60,000
Alexander Buttner - £25,000
Angelo Henriquez - £20,000
Federico Macheda - £6,000
Nick Powell - £5,000
Wilfried Zaha -£35,000
Nobody call utd players mercenries
Wayne Rooney - £250,000
Robin van Persie - £200,000
Rio Ferdinand - £115,000
Nemanja Vidic - £90,000
Ashley Young - £120,000
Luis Nani - £90,000 or more
Patrice Evra - £80,000
Tom Cleverley - £75,000
Ryan Giggs - £75,000
Javier Hernandez - £75,000
Shinji Kagawa - £80,000
Antonio Valencia - £90,000
Michael Carrick - £80,000
David De Gea - £70,000
Danny Welbeck - £75,000
Anderson --£80,000
Darren Fletcher - £80,000
Jonny Evans - £65,000
Andres Lindegaard - £45,000
Chris Smalling - £50,000
Phil Jones - £50,000
Rafael da Silva - £50,000
Paul Scholes - £60,000
Alexander Buttner - £25,000
Angelo Henriquez - £20,000
Federico Macheda - £6,000
Nick Powell - £5,000
Wilfried Zaha -£35,000
So in the last few months we've resigned Silva, Toure, Clichy and Agüero. Not bad Txiki and Ferran, not bad...
nice guesswork, why not post the city wages too snitch?
i dont know what the point of you doing this, city have the biggest wage bill in the leauge. what is this supposed to prove exactly?
i dont know what the point of you doing this, city have the biggest wage bill in the leauge. what is this supposed to prove exactly?
this season wages bills show utd is leading
Carlos Tevez - £180,000
Yaya Toure - £180,000
David Sliva - £160,000
Samir Nasri - £140,000
Edin Dzeko - £120,000
Vincent Kompany - £120,000
Kolo Toure - £120,000
Sergio Aguero - £120,000 not sure
Javi Garcia - £110,000
Maicon - £110,000 not sure
Joleon Lescott - £94,000
Gael Clichy - £90,000
James Milner - £85,000
Gareth Barry - £80,000
Joe Hart - £80,000
Matija Nastasic - £75,000
Pablo Zabaleta - £70,000
Aleksandar Kolarov - £65,000
Micah Richards - £60,000
Jack Rodwell - £55,000
Scott Sinclair - £55,000
Costel Pantilimon - £20,000
John Guidetti - £10,000
its prove city players are playing for money while utd players for glory
in season 2011/12 your wage bills was £162,000 now add rvp kagawa powell bills to it
Carlos Tevez - £180,000
Yaya Toure - £180,000
David Sliva - £160,000
Samir Nasri - £140,000
Edin Dzeko - £120,000
Vincent Kompany - £120,000
Kolo Toure - £120,000
Sergio Aguero - £120,000 not sure
Javi Garcia - £110,000
Maicon - £110,000 not sure
Joleon Lescott - £94,000
Gael Clichy - £90,000
James Milner - £85,000
Gareth Barry - £80,000
Joe Hart - £80,000
Matija Nastasic - £75,000
Pablo Zabaleta - £70,000
Aleksandar Kolarov - £65,000
Micah Richards - £60,000
Jack Rodwell - £55,000
Scott Sinclair - £55,000
Costel Pantilimon - £20,000
John Guidetti - £10,000
its prove city players are playing for money while utd players for glory
in season 2011/12 your wage bills was £162,000 now add rvp kagawa powell bills to it
there will be a lota players leaving like Tevez Dzeko Kolo Garcia(maybe) Lescott(i hope he stays) Barry Sinclair Kolarov .... if you take those out our wage bill will be reduced by a lot and the new players that will be coming in i dont think they will be put on as high wages as Tevez's wages for example so our wage bill will reduce ... we can attract players without offering too much money now we won 3 trophies in the last 3 years and we have bigger stars bigger names in our squad than any other premier league team and fairly young squad most are around 25 years old, meaning they wont be leaving anytime soon, that will also help attract more big players coming in ... who wouldnt wanna play along side Aguero or Silva or Yaya??
yeah we added kagawa and van persie, but also lost park ji sung and berbatov, senior players on healthy wages.
at any rate, our wage bill is always set around 50% of our turnover, i dunno how many times i have to tell you snitch lol. it's a reflection of how much money we earn.
right now, as of 3rd quarter results, our wage bill is at 47% of projected turnover, so we will be spending this summer for sure :). our bill will also drop a bit now that fergie and scholes have retired.
and @ napada, we'll just have to wait and see, because it seems a lot of your targets, like cavani or isco, may be going other places. seems like you guys are now after suarez though.
at any rate, our wage bill is always set around 50% of our turnover, i dunno how many times i have to tell you snitch lol. it's a reflection of how much money we earn.
right now, as of 3rd quarter results, our wage bill is at 47% of projected turnover, so we will be spending this summer for sure :). our bill will also drop a bit now that fergie and scholes have retired.
and @ napada, we'll just have to wait and see, because it seems a lot of your targets, like cavani or isco, may be going other places. seems like you guys are now after suarez though.
so utd can pay any f*****g bills as long as their earn the money right? when will you guys give up your excuses? its geting old my friend
@SIF dont forget your club is running on loans and credit from the bank.....i will explain it to u in simple words the galzers came in with 0$ in their pocket took out mortgage from the bank and bought your club now the club has to pay off someone elses depth and u know wuts gonna happen when that depth is cleared?? the glazers will sell the club to another guy in line with 0$ in their pocket and it will go on and on basically galzers came in with 0$ and will prolly sell the club for about 2 billion and walk away with that ... i feel sorry for your club when i think about this man no joke i trully do cos imagine if u had some arab/russian billionaire run ur club?? u be above madrid and barca by a mile!!!!
you've got it a bit mixed up, that's a cute story though ;)
we are not running on loans, the loan amount is the money we OWE. we are paying those loans off, the club is running off its own profits.
it's like how people take out a mortgage from the bank to own their home. the are not living off the mortgage, they are living off their salary, and pay off some portion of the mortage every month.
and there's every chance if the glazers sell, which they probably wont, that we are bought by some person rich enough to afford us. it's just wishful thinking on your part man lol.
we are not running on loans, the loan amount is the money we OWE. we are paying those loans off, the club is running off its own profits.
it's like how people take out a mortgage from the bank to own their home. the are not living off the mortgage, they are living off their salary, and pay off some portion of the mortage every month.
and there's every chance if the glazers sell, which they probably wont, that we are bought by some person rich enough to afford us. it's just wishful thinking on your part man lol.
@Snitch
i think you got the United wage bill reasonably accurate.
but the City one is wrong, by a landslide. most credible City financial experts and independent experts as well, say completely different figures to the ones that you quoted.
what source did you use? club financial accounts, officially, never say individual salaries of most players. only the total wage bill.
the guesstimate salaries of players are usually derived from info leaked by agents, and/or by using the compare and contrast approach.
like, Aguero earning X amount of money, which will be similar to what a player of his quality could earn at another rich club (RM, Barca, Chelsea, etc). the agent will always try to get you more than you are worth, but usually, the player will end up getting what his calibre of player is earning in other top clubs. exception being clubs like Anzhi that will pay way above market value wages just to get the player, in order to compensate for stuff like the country and culture where the club is based not being to his liking, not being involved in CL, not being in a top league, etc.
you know that sort of stuff.
@Napada
i hate the Glazers, but they are shrewd bastar**. they will sell United when the value is at its peak, which will be in the next 10-ish years. the reason? football's money making ability (growth) will be very much saturated and realised by then. i dont see anyone with 2 brain cells buying United and owning a huge majority stake, especially not with a Leveraged Buyout option. that option is gone now that the Glazers have used it. there would be no way for United to pay off that new debt, assuming you are right. so, any smart investor wont even bother trying to own United fully.
the Glazers will sell United. thats what the whole point of the NYSE flotation was all along. the money we got to reduce debts from it was peanuts, since less than half of proceeds were used to pay off the debt. the only reason for the flotation that i can see if the Glazers making the groundwork for a future sale. i wouldnt be surprised if they, when the time comes, float the shares in Asian markets. they are a lot more clever than we thought they were when bought United. thank god for it, otherwise they would have made United go bankrupt with all the debt they dumped on us.
it would make business sense to perform a LBO today and in the future on a smaller, but growth and potential filled club, like a Swansea or Sunderland. but it cant happen on the Uniteds, Chelseas, Citys, Barcas, etc.
even if someone did come in and try to perform a LBO on United (like the Glazers), the new EPL rules on ownership should prevent it, along with the new home-made FFP rules by the EPL. i just dont see another LBO happening in the EPL at any club with so many new obstacles preventing it. the collapse of Portsmouth, and the trouble United and Liverpool went through has taught the EPL and European football a lot of lessons. the Germans were right when they implements the "50+1" rule. todays UCL proved that imo.
i think you got the United wage bill reasonably accurate.
but the City one is wrong, by a landslide. most credible City financial experts and independent experts as well, say completely different figures to the ones that you quoted.
what source did you use? club financial accounts, officially, never say individual salaries of most players. only the total wage bill.
the guesstimate salaries of players are usually derived from info leaked by agents, and/or by using the compare and contrast approach.
like, Aguero earning X amount of money, which will be similar to what a player of his quality could earn at another rich club (RM, Barca, Chelsea, etc). the agent will always try to get you more than you are worth, but usually, the player will end up getting what his calibre of player is earning in other top clubs. exception being clubs like Anzhi that will pay way above market value wages just to get the player, in order to compensate for stuff like the country and culture where the club is based not being to his liking, not being involved in CL, not being in a top league, etc.
you know that sort of stuff.
@Napada
i hate the Glazers, but they are shrewd bastar**. they will sell United when the value is at its peak, which will be in the next 10-ish years. the reason? football's money making ability (growth) will be very much saturated and realised by then. i dont see anyone with 2 brain cells buying United and owning a huge majority stake, especially not with a Leveraged Buyout option. that option is gone now that the Glazers have used it. there would be no way for United to pay off that new debt, assuming you are right. so, any smart investor wont even bother trying to own United fully.
the Glazers will sell United. thats what the whole point of the NYSE flotation was all along. the money we got to reduce debts from it was peanuts, since less than half of proceeds were used to pay off the debt. the only reason for the flotation that i can see if the Glazers making the groundwork for a future sale. i wouldnt be surprised if they, when the time comes, float the shares in Asian markets. they are a lot more clever than we thought they were when bought United. thank god for it, otherwise they would have made United go bankrupt with all the debt they dumped on us.
it would make business sense to perform a LBO today and in the future on a smaller, but growth and potential filled club, like a Swansea or Sunderland. but it cant happen on the Uniteds, Chelseas, Citys, Barcas, etc.
even if someone did come in and try to perform a LBO on United (like the Glazers), the new EPL rules on ownership should prevent it, along with the new home-made FFP rules by the EPL. i just dont see another LBO happening in the EPL at any club with so many new obstacles preventing it. the collapse of Portsmouth, and the trouble United and Liverpool went through has taught the EPL and European football a lot of lessons. the Germans were right when they implements the "50+1" rule. todays UCL proved that imo.
@Snitch
gimme a sec. need to search for it from my bookmarks tab. i should stop being so lazy and make a permanent folder for this stuff someday.
gimme a sec. need to search for it from my bookmarks tab. i should stop being so lazy and make a permanent folder for this stuff someday.
who you guys gonna root for tomorrow?? me personally gonna put my Germany jersey on and head to the nearest bar!...if it was up to me i would give each team a cup cos they both deserve it, but sadly only one will get it!
its an all German final if you put a national team Germany jersey then your considered neutral, where as if you put a bayern or dortmund t shirt on you might be trolled around the bar by the opposition fans
Klopp is awesome but Goetze being injured? i dont believe that s**t he didnt wanna play against his new team simple as that faking an injury not cool if he had played it would have been a different game
http://www.uefa.com/uefa/aboutuefa/organisation/congress/news/newsid=1955627.html
UEFA and its members latest agreement on behalf of racism in football matches. Pretty interesting. Although its so sad though, why can't we all just enjoy the game. Why bring something so ugly to the beautiful game.
UEFA and its members latest agreement on behalf of racism in football matches. Pretty interesting. Although its so sad though, why can't we all just enjoy the game. Why bring something so ugly to the beautiful game.
if mancinni would have won the fa cup would things have been different. i hope his ideaology of not fearing man u spreads throughout the epl next season. at the moment i feel there has come a crack in there windsheild and with hope the cold of next winter will only make it bigger. please make manchester blue next season.
Things would have been different if Mancini won the fa cup because that was his last straw on a disappointing season. Last summer in the transfer window we didn't sign any of our targets and still spend lots of money and only one player out of the 5 players we signed proved he was worth the money. We were leading in the PL first then we started losing and drawing to weaker teams and we lost our spot and couldn't regain it. We failed in CL and were rock bottom with only 3 points and with a quality filled squad. Then we sold Balotelli and he flourished in Milan from the get go which makes us look like idiots and we capped the year of by losing to the relegation bound Wigan Athletic in the Fa Cup finals. To top that off Mancini's relationship with some of our players were deteriorating and even our own players egos got the best of them and they failed to play well every game which resulted to our inconsistency. Now that I think about it I don't know how much the fa cup would have helped but letting Mancini go was the best thing because we needed to reshuffle and reconstruct. Although I know one thing, just because Mancini is gone doesn't mean City has fallen. You can best believe Manchester will rain blue next season. CTID:)
@Moe66
Things wouldnt have been different if Mancini won the fa cup his sack has nothing to do with the fa cup from what i heard
Things wouldnt have been different if Mancini won the fa cup his sack has nothing to do with the fa cup from what i heard
Its what i came to know too, it was decided sometime back.
What I liked about Mancini was his boldness to stand up to anything or anybody, infact i think the only manager who didn't back down to Fergie even though he admired him. I am sure the Barca boys couldn't control him. Then his passion to win, never bothered about anything else. Since he didn't bother patting on everyones back he made lots of enemies and without the support of his players and staff it was easy to remove him. Many people didn't understand the latin passionate ways. I am always grateful for the proud moments he gave us esp the 6-1 and the 11-12 season, when we played beautiful football. I wish him well.
Now we are moving to the next phase, I hope Pellegrini will inspire our players.... and wish him all the best. May he bring us a Trophy every season like Soriano says..
What I liked about Mancini was his boldness to stand up to anything or anybody, infact i think the only manager who didn't back down to Fergie even though he admired him. I am sure the Barca boys couldn't control him. Then his passion to win, never bothered about anything else. Since he didn't bother patting on everyones back he made lots of enemies and without the support of his players and staff it was easy to remove him. Many people didn't understand the latin passionate ways. I am always grateful for the proud moments he gave us esp the 6-1 and the 11-12 season, when we played beautiful football. I wish him well.
Now we are moving to the next phase, I hope Pellegrini will inspire our players.... and wish him all the best. May he bring us a Trophy every season like Soriano says..
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