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I see a lot of you here want pep to change the style to change the keeper the defence...The club brought him here because of the way he plays his teams if we wanted someone that plays more direct football there were plenty of other options guys...Pep will never change and he shouldnt change, thats his philosophy like it or not...Thats why the club is paying him so much because the club wants to play like barcelona...not gonna happen overnight but eventually will.

To those that keep blaming Bravo, none of the 4 goals we conceded were his fault even the commentator said it, Hart would have gotten scored on that many times as well.

Lets not forget Pep got a squad that BARELY finished 4th last year under Pellegrini
Fair to say that Pep should start Willy Caballero ahead of Bravo against Spurs. Bravo is just having a bad time and Willy was beast against Barca last time around. Hope he gets the start because his been good in recent games.
Pep stated a while ago that his happy with his current team. I wounder what his thinking right now?
No thinking, PL pressure has turned him mad.
I feel there is nothing in the interviews they give other than just to keep the media quiet, But Pep will get rid of some of the ageing team.

Every New Manager needs a season to get familiarize with the team, the system and in Pep's case he is totally new to PL.

Mancini I remember initially used to say building defense is the first priority than attacking, once he achieved that then he went of to win. Same I see in Conte.

Pellegrini benefitted from what Mancini built, but he didn't create anything other than got rid of Negredo, Jovetić, nastasic (unforgivable), so Pep is getting an aged Mancini team.

Need to give him time. Even though it is terrible to see us getting battered day after day.
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EPL Media is notorious for damaging manager's form, and for some reason Pep seems really intimidated with them. He tries to make a joke but it doesn't come off and ends up looking like he was trolling the reporter.
I can't help but think and English player and captain like Joe Hart would have been a great asset to have at this point of time. Even a player like Milner would have been a a valuable asset rn.
Like I said before, I think Pep will invest big on the back-line and DMs position but with contracts running out, its better to wait until the summer. So I think we have try to pull it together this season and hope for the best. I just hope we finish top 4.
What are the expectations you guys have for Pep this season?

Are you happy with him having so much control in the transfer market? Once he leaves, the next manager is going to have an incredibly hard time cleaning up his mess. Look at how he left Bayern, a clear regression from Jupp's team. Fortunately for them, he couldn't last for more than three seasons.

You guys played much better under the likes of Pellegrini and Mancini. Pep is only here for the cash considering he is already talking about retirement 21 games into the season.
He was at Bayern for 3 seasons not 2, but go on lol
To beat Arsenal...which he did :D this season is about building the youth system and rebuilding the first team.

And I'm guessing you're happy with getting 4th place every season aren't you @DTG. Worry about your own team and manager instead of bull shitting here.

Yes/no we've had ups and downs with all our managers.
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@Alexis, whoooooops, updated :P
A top four finish isn't out of reach for city and then followed by some wise spending in the summer time, pep should be set to go. Any successful system need players who fit the mold so adjusting to Pep's possession riddled, high line system is a hard task.

He's a smart guy and will come good eventually.
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@Zorsita Do you seriously think even after spending 150m city would have gone out of top 4 contention with still 17 games to go?? lol

Oh barca fans here too why am i not surprised lol
Coming from a United fan who spent 89 mil on one player and are 2 points behind City lol

If they are out of top 4 contention then I don't know where United are lol. Not to mention United spent just as much as City and finished 2nd in Europa League.

But oh yea I forgot. If United finished all those chances and if they didn't concede all of those goals and if Pogba scored all of those goals then they would have been first in EPL and first in Europa and Pogba would be the best midfielder in the world.
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If Pep/Mou fail to get top 4 given the resources and experience they have, they deserve the sack. No excuses.
I disagree. Letting those managers spend so much money on players and then sacking them the year after is a terrible idea. At least give both of them 2 seasons.
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@Optajose the above question was about city's current expectations and considering the hard times his (Pep) team is going through, it's not far fetched to think they could indeed finish outside top 4. After all don't y'all have a top 6 or something????

Despite the spending this city side is thin in some vital areas and of the top 6 i believe city has the worst cb partnership, Gundogan can't stay fit and fernando or whatever his name is can't stay on the pitch without getting red carded. But i get you my friend, pep's presence and the money spent should at the very least guarantee a top four finish.
@Zorsita I meant to say was that is not it obvious that city would atleast fight for top 4 with the talent they have and the huge amount of money they spent this summer?

AlexisSanchez, i never said city is out of contention for top 4 lol and why are you bring my club position into this? lol it has nothing to do with mourinho and 89m that we spent on pogba. Just because man united spent too much on a WC talent does not mean i am not allowed to talk about others.

My question if pep is so good why does he need like 300m( including money spent last summer) to build a top notch team esp when city already had 3 WC players before he joined them? Then fans are blamed for having high expectation from him. Fans have high expection from him because he has always joined a star studded team with the additional financial boost. This is why his time in bayern is not seen as a huge success. Dont even get me started on his decision of selling hart, playing high line and playing players at the wrong positions. So far he has not done anything close to being worthy of WC manager.
Okay but at the start of the season many tipped city to run away with the league but look at where they are now and if this trend continues a top four finish would be impossibly hard for em. So now Pep would at least change his objective to finishing in the top four not on challenging for the title.

Dunno if we are saying the same thing in a different way so hence the confusion.
@Zorsita IMO every team from 2nd position to 6th are playing for top 4. Although Pundits say all of them have title chance they say this for TRP and hype up league even more. The channel they work for ask them to say these things.
Totally agree and unless Conte inexplicably drops the ball only then will the title race be on.
Exactly! Dont forget spurs and liverpool still have to play each other.
Not that I'm complaining, but what was he thinking shipping Hart out? Showing who's the boss?
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Weren't thinking... Bravo is a trash goalkeeper, they would be better off with Mignolet.
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No, Bravo was class at Barca but his gotten so bad, I don't know what happened.
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bc in barca, he didn't have to do any goalkeeping. they have better defenders and have possession like 90% of the time
Barca definitely has a better defence, but Bravo wasn't counting strands of grass during matches. He made some quality saves because our defence was not always reliable. He saved us a few times and showed that he was much better than Valdes. Even for Chile, he played exceptionally. I don't know if he took a knock on the head or something, but he's playing like it's his first time in front of a goal. Hopefully he gets it together, but at this point, if I were Pep, I'd start playing Caballero more.
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God damn man, I come home from work and check football results. This one shocked the f**k out of me. What happened
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Probably the worst piece of business by Pep ship out Hart for joker Bravo..
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I don't think why he needed to send put Hart? Wouldn't it make more sense to have both of them compete for the spot?
To be honest no one could have known that Bravo would suddenly turn sh*t. He played well before the transfer. But Pep should have at least given Hart a chance though.
I think Hart left immediately when Pep revealed his plans for a new Gk
He is 29, been a long time at City #1 and also England #1, he wouldn't want to risk his career over doubts whether he would play for club or not
Smart by hart, not so much Pep
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SanchezAlexis not really. Pep had already started Caballero ahead of Joe

Pep followed his philosophy, now he has to take it on the chin.
Well, my philosophy is you don't change what already works fine.

It was also a sneaky piece of business. Hart didn't have the time to find a competitive club...one of our rivals for instance
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Selling Hart was one of those stupid moves that are club is prone to making. Over the years, we've seen dumb decisions take place. Just like when we sold Nastasic for no reason, or shipped out De Jong and Barry, for the likes of Javi Garcia. Due to the player turnover, Milner left because he didn't believe City would give him much now and near future. I believe he left because City didn't offer him a deal early but the rest of the big boys got new deals well before him. One of the reason why he left. I don't think he believe the club valued him.
Out with the old and in with the new...time to get rid of this aging squad and replace it with some youth from our system and a few more world class players. So many ups and downs this season, we need to play with heart and not greed.
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Did you just call Claudio Bravo 'greed'? :P
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@Jeroen more like piss poor. Nope I'm not one of those fans yelling "bring Hart back"...haha
Just realized we have Spurs next weekend:(
I think if City beats a team then they must be really poor play, Pep could never beat Pochettino.. so its another embarrassment..
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in epl u need to have offense and defense, city defense is way too weak imo. get hart back
+1
Hart is far more valuable to City's history than Guardiola could ever be.
We dominated the game but like usual the other team needs like 3 lucky breaks and theyll get a goal. Bravo has been an utter failure. My only issue with Pep is getting rid of one of the best goalies in the league and replacing him with a spastic monkey.
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We need another DM, someone that can protect that back-line. At least with Fernandinho, the team had protection but its open season now. I mean we can't even rely on the keeper to make decent saves at the this point.
Why not start Aleix garcia? Hes good and screw Zaba
sounds like arsenal.

Koeman owns wenger. not as many games vs pep but fair to say koeman is doing pretty good so far in the contest?


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