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I see that kieta is playing a more deeper role for RB this season, he still has freedom to attack but he is alot more disciplined in his game. I'm thinking this is something klopp has told him to work on.
i cannot wait to see him play for LFC! I hope Can sticks around, I can see them dominating the midfield together next year
Lol it's a f***ing meltdown on this page. Lol but I can't blame u guys feel the same way
Yeah lol
At the moment, what we need is a clean sheet. I dont care if its 0-0 as long as we dont concede its ok. That would show true "character" and true progress
Br: Great character and intensity!
Since LFC bought Lovren in 2014, we've spent just £7.5m on centre-backs

Gomez - £3.5m
Caulker - Loan
Matip - Free
Klavan - £4m

Oooffta that's just tough to come to terms with
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It's certainly showing...

Although the Matip transfer was good
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That's pretty f****d ay lol.

Stingy as f***
Hmm - we will probably make that 7.5M about a 100 million in Jan - we need to and yes, its certainly showing. Defense is as integral as any other position in football. We simply didnt address it and are paying for it. The EPL is the toughest league in world football and defense is where teams should start for being solid
The Matip transfer was f*****g brilliant.
Missed out on Höwedes, he hasn't played his 1st game for Juve yet.
Like i said before. 2 injuries away from being totally f'ked.

I'll blame both FSG & Klopp.
Klopp on letting Sakho go without a replacement.
FSG for not having the foresight to chime in & say we are short at the back. They have wonderful knowledge of football haven't they. I wonder if they would sit back & see the same thing happening at RedSox.

What's done is done. Support the team. YNWA.
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Agreed, fsg is to blame on this.
How are we left with no good defenders? How many more decades will it take til we sign varane and vvd, this stupidy needs to end and they need to give us world class defender or simply let us free, stop f*****g with our future.

This is liverpool fc, we dont need them, they need us.
Stop milking our money from our club and fans #fsgout
Klopp out too for being so stupid, no defender? Seriously? No wonder dortmund got rid of him.
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FSG are owners not managers. What the hell xD
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^ Exactly. Do you guys seriously think the owners know anything about managing a football club? Why should they? Businesses are run by managers, not shareholders...
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Azeal is just taking the piss lol.
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If only the owners had done their job of bringing in a world class manager and backroom staff, OH WAIT. THEY DID :O
In a perfect world our owners, whoever they might be, would have fantastic Football knowledge and could chime in if they saw issues not being addressed.

In saying that I could see a lot of tension and issues arising between owners and managerial personnel.

I don't think Klopp is stupid. I'm just having a hard time trying to rationalize why other defenders weren't scouted and marked as potential targets. Without knowing so many unknown variables I can't really come up with a probable answer.
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I like how you guys go on tangents of pessimistic topics after a bad result. You win and EVERYTHING is good, right from FSG to Klopp to Klavan to Christian Poulsen :D You lose one and EVERYTHING is fcuked again..haha
They are not beautiful human beings and certainly do not posses "character".
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Well I agree - thats what noone has been able to explain. Klopp is obviously a great manager no question. He is experienced and obviously knew we were short at the back. Dont know what happened? So yes, without knowing what went wrong, we cannot say if it was Klopp or FSG (even though they dont decide scouting) or both or none but we all agree that something went wrong in our planning for sure

(cue for Azeal's rant) - Rant in 5..4..3..2..1
Yeah I mean the entire club hierarchy can't be so dumb to say we dont need a defender. We were willing to pay 70M for VVD so it was surely a recognized area of improvement..but like you said it baffles me to see no alternate targets being pursued. Would like to know the reason behind VVD or nothing kind of an attitude..
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Is Dreamfooty working this season?

If it does, don't use any of our players!

We need to invest on the team, let's face it, the current team is the worse team to have faked their way into champions league. Defense is clearly not working, midfield? Seriously.. we signed an Arsenal reject? Is that our best move? Hello scouting and hiring committee, i have 2 words for you 'f*** *ff'. Forward? Have you seen us winning games?

We need to buy serious players if we want to win anything!
We are bigger than Chelsea or Man city could ever be!
We deserve our trophies for supporting this club!

I would pick future Liverpool players, that we deserve.
Varane, VVD, Mascherano, Kante, Sign bale! Modric, Mbappe, Robben, Cavani, and let's give Messi the home he deserves.. His contract is running out.

SORT THIS OUT FSG or GTFO.
Azeal are not bored yet lol?
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Bored? Sergio bro, i feel anew.
I have seen the truth and the answer to everything now, i have been fooled into thinking a club need to operate with cashflow earning and such, i have misled by corporations.

Fsg wants us to be sheeps and follow, so they can keep stealing our club money, profit, and toy us with cheap shitty players each season just to keep us excited. They wont sign real players with the intention to win, like city or chelsea or even man u.

I believe they also have paved way into investing in leicester, we can see in our previous game, they cut us open like rotten meat. I think fsg made them won the league 2 seasons ago to make us believe, it is not about money.

Now that i have seen the truth from a new perspective, it is pretty liberating. I have been rebirth sir.

Stop being stupid, make fsg sell the club. We need new owner with money, dont be a blind idiotic naive fans. See the truth! Fsg OUT!
You was always the sarcastic guy on this forum.. But I never knew you could take it to this level lolol
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I'm finding this pretty entertaining. The amount of effort he's putting into this is impressive.
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Funny thing is that he makes some valid points in his rants
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What I find funny is that what he says in his rants is more accurate than what he used to say before. +1 Azeal
So I feel a little better now after that defeat.. Thinking alot more rationally with alot of the negativity out of my head. I replayed the match againts Leicester and Burnley and the key thing in them games I picked up on was bad decision making in the final third. I think we should still look at the positivity of the amount of chances we created and if half of the final balls were correct we could have scored by 4 or 5 in both games. Some damn right obvious and mind boggling. I think the players need to stay focused and aim to be a lot more brave. For example in both games I noticed our midfielders looked to play the safer option instead of being more direct. We badly miss Lallana as he was fantastic and playing in small spaces. Coutinho is good at it but he is not at full match fitness at the moment.

As for the defence, i can honestly say now that both goals we conceded if we had a better Dm we could have avoided both. Can could have stopped the goal againts Burnley if he was switched on and the same for hendo againts Leicester. We seem to be weak on the counter as it often means our center backs are left to defend with no cover from midfield.

Klopp has his work cut out but I can see things getting better soon, it all starts with a good win this weekend. YNWA my bros
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Its still way to early. Look at Chelsea last season. Their fans pretty much gave up on the season after a few games. Especially after that Arsenal drubbing. So its still way too early to make any judgments. Only 5 points from the top. Now if things remain the same for another few more games then i would say it would be time to panic.
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Better stop that positive outlook before you're called delusional
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Also this Carling Cup is the least in importance of trophies to win. Now you guys have a bit of breathing space while Chelsea have a random fixture vs Everton..
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Mane Firminho Salah seems to be the forward combination that works best so far ... would like to see coutinho in cm as opposed to on the wing with Can and Gini supporting the back 4 when necessary . even if they score we should be able to outscore them
Great point - the CDM position might be key here. Provide more cover to defense when their confidence is low
Not disagreeing with the bit about the DM but it seems funny that sometimes there is so much emphasis on a DM because if there is any pressure on the defence they crumble. Like isn't that the defense's job? To defend against the opponents? Having a better DM would help them out but ultimately it's the defense's job to defend, and they should be capable of that.
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We need to buy Kante

I have no idea why we are stuck with players like Can and Hendo, these players are not good enough to be wearing the great liverpool jersey let alone be on a starting XI.

This is a disgrace, look at how far we have fallen.
Klopp out FSG out
@Kevmo we have a really shaky defense .. heard matip and lovren are a doubt so we would most likely go with the same back four we had on Tuesday . they will need the support
CDM is an important position these days. When the wing banks go missing, the CDM sweeps in and helps. Some of the best teams have excellent CDMs. Can can actually be an asset here. He is physical and good at covering and passing. Why not?
Spot on^
Cos he is s**t, mediocre at best. Liverpool football club is top football club in the world with net earning around the top 10 with best football supporter / fans in the world.

We should never operate with these losers, we need winners. Can isn't a Liverpool material, we need Mascherano back, to the very least. An old donkey worth more than this fake ass German horse.

KLOPP needs to spend, he is too naive and stupid, we need to win soon the fans have been waiting for too long. If we don't win at least a champions league at the end of the season, we need to replace klopp.

KLOPP OUT! ENOUGH EXCUSES!
Klopp deserves criticism but when it comes down to it he's not out on the pitch making sunday league defensive errors. Management and our players need to hold a meeting before the L. City match. We need leadership now more than ever. Wish Carra was out there still screaming at the defenders
Further problems.. Looks like both matip and lovren could miss the game on Saturday
well... rip defense
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Just sell those good for nothing defenders.

Let me make it clear, we need to sign quality defender.
Sell Coutinho, buy VVD slam 100m at Southampton, get him at all cost.

This club need ambitions and serious quality - otherwise, FSG OUT. Enough rotting in the league, we deserve better players and owners.
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Lol
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I mean if Matip and Lovren both dont play then who stands in there with Klavan???
gomez
Hahaha I think they broke Azeal
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Klavan against Vardy fills me with fear lol
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Id say we over fixed Azeal... his zeal is now more than mine ... i suspect he will streak at the leicester game with FSG out painted on his butt cheeks
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Mission accomplished - lol, no, chill Azeal - no more banter. Lets just hope our team starts performing
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No i have matured as a fan now, it feels good like being rebirth.
Pray to the stars we dont lose ... but if we do .. i will ride into battle with you brother azeal .. we will express our disappointment loudly and bathe in the blood of those pesky optimists ,use their intestines as necklaces and their eyeballs as earrings ... welcome to the fold
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If you're in the mood we ride for Anfield and take Lovrens head and place it on a spear outside the shankly gates ... it will be glorious
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lmao
This is f*****g hilarious
I think at this point i should point out that we've won only one cup in the last 10 years and incidentally that cup was in the competition we got kicked out of yesterday..... is this who we are now?
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*11
Yes, we are who we are.
Do you not like us now?
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Am i still on this page complaining? Or have i become a chelsea or man city fan?
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No mate - go on, ignore him
@Azeal - does he live upto your measurement of a "true" fan?
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God damn, f**k this stupidity over the years.
You are right! f**k FSG, all their fault for this mess.

I have been blinded, now I see better.
We can't let the club rot like this.

Let's make them sell the club, FSG OUT KLOPP the fool out!
WAKE UP TRUE FANS
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ARISE TRUE LIVERPUDLIANS, SHUN THE FARCICAL OWNERS FSG AND BRINGFORTH AN ERA OF GREATNESS.

f**k FSG AND f**k KLOPP, BRING BACK UNCLE WOY!!
+2
Liverpool have lost 3 games since March.

https://twitter.com/redmysterio96/status/909407163340161024
f**k that we need a beautiful human being, someone with "character"

#kloppoutRodger&Weejoein
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Id like to point out at this juncture that the only people that ive seen so far shouting Klopp out and FSG out and cursing at them are Blayzie and Azeal ... Everyone else is shouting fix this s**t.... apparently weezer too
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Yeah! Let's all shout fix it on Footytube so the issues can actually be fixed!

Great plan! The club will hear our shouts from Footytube and address our issues! Solid plan M8!
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You sound really really really silly man, no one thinks that ... you are free to make your own forum and disable comments or whatever ... otherwise take a seat
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That sounds like a really good idea! However a forum with disabled comments isn't really a forum soo...

If you ever decide to make your own forum however, I've got the perfect domain for you. Butthurt.me.com :)
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Sigh ... lol it was fun at first, now its just childish ... im bored now so ill just let you stew in the negative comments
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Sounds like a solid plan m8
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#WengerOut!
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"Klopp getting sick of conceding goal like that"... Well Mr Klopp start to do sometnig about it then probably?
Buy a defensive coach? Buy a fkin defender for mother of god? Or try to study other teams or managerial routines? Change the formation?

I mean being a nice allaround nice guy does not work really anymore. The players look disinterested, not motivated at times.

smhhh hard to take this one.
+5
This is not La Liga or Bundesliga... You cant win games with youngsters, not against PL teams.
+2
He can be upset all he wants - everyone warned Liverpool about our defense or the lack of it but he felt back then that there are no other options other than VVD
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No one is saying he can't be mad?

This is a discussional forum is it not?
No one is trying to take away your right to be mad and voice your opinions. There are just people who think and voice their opinions differently. That's ok.

To the question at hand. Honestly, I think every option Frony has mentioned needs to be revised or implemented if not already.

I honestly think we need to do completely overhaul our defence. Including keepers. I think instead of zonal marking in set pieces we man mark. I think there needs to be more training drills dealing with set pieces and training/exercises on communication and awareness.
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I say bring Carragher in for a coaching role. He ain't afraid to yell at our players. Miss him yelling at our players.
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