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Lovren and matip passed fitness!
Seriously now! we need to have consistency at the back to give ourselves a chance to have some kind of decent defensive unit. I do understand partly where the ones calling for Klopp out# are coming from, well they're still wankers and absolute idiots for me, but klopp has no one but himself to blame for this. He certainly left himself open when not trying to get a replacement for van dik, but even worst hasn't been able to make up his mind on who he wants to play in those key areas.
First thing first, sort out who you want to be your keeper for fck sake. No manager would have dare replace good old bruce without any good reasons. SO be it Miggs or Ward it's about time kloop made a stand and plays one player. ahem as for karius he can go back to Germany for all I care. A great team starts from having a great keeper between the sticks ALL THE TIME.
I love playing musical chair but our full backs are not part of this game. Kloop decide who it's going to be??? I have no issues who ever you chose. Alex or Gomez but for fck sake, don't keep changing them week in week out, they're are both young and will make mistakes but to improve they have to get a run of games in the team and feel that they have the backing of the manager and can thus focus on improving, finding their feet and getting used to the way the team plays and developing understanding with the back line.
Thank god we have one player who seems to play regularly and it's not a surprised that he has been our best defender so far. But even Matip would love to partner one, not two, not three but one central defender week in week out so they can develop a basic understanding on when one has to cover, one has to take the ball out, when to work together to wipe up the defence and how to defend against two striker and all these important little things which makes a great defence.
I don't even know who to put next to Matip, that's how bad it has been. I'll go with Gomez as he's young, powerful and been improving compared to the rest. Playing more often with matip would definetly improve our defence and help shore up the defence. Still a long way to go for claiming the best in the epl, but they could be among the better ones.
On the left...I have no idea why we bought Robertson and still play Moreno..don't be fooled, Moreno has been a little better but only going forward he has left our defence open so many times and is to blame for more than a few goals we have conceded when you check where he was when the other team started their attacks. I'd rather see Milner back in there or Robertson, but who ever gets the nod plays there week in week out.
Unitl we get these sorted, even if we had messi, suarez and jesus up front we will always be inconsistent. we can improve and i'm sure we will. it's a decision to be made, just like we did at the end of last season by playing three at the back. Klopp need to be brave, make up your mind and stick to it. Less rotations more consistency and we should shoot up the table.
Just for the record. No one wants Klopp out.
Yes, that will not solve a thing.
some so called fans have created a page for Klopp out and on twiter..idiots. oh well.
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True. But they aren't Footytube Liverpool supporters. More like African or Middle Eastern Supporters
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F*** it... If Klopp's gone we would be in deep sh**. Criticizing his tactics is different but Man has so much passion for the game. He could have easily been at Manchester United but chose Liverpool football club. Ask those stupid people, can they suggest one person who can be assured of being better at helm.
I hope the jinx of the ox stops tonight.
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Craig Shakespeare says Vardy will not feature at the weekend
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Good because the way our defense is at the moment they'd get beat with the overhead ball every time.
Imagine this team lol

----Mane ---firmino --- Salah
-----coutinho---Lallana-----
------------ Can - - - - - -
Moreno - Matip - Gomez - Ox


Coz f**k defending
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The sentiment 'f**k defending' is embodied in the omission of a goalkeeper entirely. I approve. Not sure Ox approves, though.
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;]
I hope this team is the one to face arsenal lol.
@Sergio- is that really going to be our back line for tomorrow? Any confirmations?? Jesus!!
Lol don't think so, I was just bored bro
Lolz on the similar note:

----Mane----Stuzza-----Salah
-----coutinho---Firminio----
------------Lallana---------
Woodburn---Hendo---Can----Ox
---------Milner-------------

We can't be worse than what we are doing already.
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I see that kieta is playing a more deeper role for RB this season, he still has freedom to attack but he is alot more disciplined in his game. I'm thinking this is something klopp has told him to work on.
i cannot wait to see him play for LFC! I hope Can sticks around, I can see them dominating the midfield together next year
That's one thing I hope we get to see
Because Klopp told him he'll be replacing our sorry excuse for a captain lol
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Yeah - we need better leadership, both at the back (Carra like figure) and from a captain.
Lol it's a f***ing meltdown on this page. Lol but I can't blame u guys feel the same way
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Yeah lol
At the moment, what we need is a clean sheet. I dont care if its 0-0 as long as we dont concede its ok. That would show true "character" and true progress
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Br: Great character and intensity!
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Since LFC bought Lovren in 2014, we've spent just £7.5m on centre-backs

Gomez - £3.5m
Caulker - Loan
Matip - Free
Klavan - £4m

Oooffta that's just tough to come to terms with
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It's certainly showing...

Although the Matip transfer was good
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That's pretty f****d ay lol.

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Stingy as f***
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Hmm - we will probably make that 7.5M about a 100 million in Jan - we need to and yes, its certainly showing. Defense is as integral as any other position in football. We simply didnt address it and are paying for it. The EPL is the toughest league in world football and defense is where teams should start for being solid
The Matip transfer was f*****g brilliant.
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Missed out on Höwedes, he hasn't played his 1st game for Juve yet.
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We should loan him in and bring in vvd too
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Like i said before. 2 injuries away from being totally f'ked.

I'll blame both FSG & Klopp.
Klopp on letting Sakho go without a replacement.
FSG for not having the foresight to chime in & say we are short at the back. They have wonderful knowledge of football haven't they. I wonder if they would sit back & see the same thing happening at RedSox.

What's done is done. Support the team. YNWA.
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Agreed, fsg is to blame on this.
How are we left with no good defenders? How many more decades will it take til we sign varane and vvd, this stupidy needs to end and they need to give us world class defender or simply let us free, stop f*****g with our future.

This is liverpool fc, we dont need them, they need us.
Stop milking our money from our club and fans #fsgout
Klopp out too for being so stupid, no defender? Seriously? No wonder dortmund got rid of him.
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FSG are owners not managers. What the hell xD
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^ Exactly. Do you guys seriously think the owners know anything about managing a football club? Why should they? Businesses are run by managers, not shareholders...
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Azeal is just taking the piss lol.
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If only the owners had done their job of bringing in a world class manager and backroom staff, OH WAIT. THEY DID :O
In a perfect world our owners, whoever they might be, would have fantastic Football knowledge and could chime in if they saw issues not being addressed.

In saying that I could see a lot of tension and issues arising between owners and managerial personnel.

I don't think Klopp is stupid. I'm just having a hard time trying to rationalize why other defenders weren't scouted and marked as potential targets. Without knowing so many unknown variables I can't really come up with a probable answer.
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I like how you guys go on tangents of pessimistic topics after a bad result. You win and EVERYTHING is good, right from FSG to Klopp to Klavan to Christian Poulsen :D You lose one and EVERYTHING is fcuked again..haha
They are not beautiful human beings and certainly do not posses "character".
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Well I agree - thats what noone has been able to explain. Klopp is obviously a great manager no question. He is experienced and obviously knew we were short at the back. Dont know what happened? So yes, without knowing what went wrong, we cannot say if it was Klopp or FSG (even though they dont decide scouting) or both or none but we all agree that something went wrong in our planning for sure

(cue for Azeal's rant) - Rant in 5..4..3..2..1
Yeah I mean the entire club hierarchy can't be so dumb to say we dont need a defender. We were willing to pay 70M for VVD so it was surely a recognized area of improvement..but like you said it baffles me to see no alternate targets being pursued. Would like to know the reason behind VVD or nothing kind of an attitude..
+2
Is Dreamfooty working this season?

If it does, don't use any of our players!

We need to invest on the team, let's face it, the current team is the worse team to have faked their way into champions league. Defense is clearly not working, midfield? Seriously.. we signed an Arsenal reject? Is that our best move? Hello scouting and hiring committee, i have 2 words for you 'f*** *ff'. Forward? Have you seen us winning games?

We need to buy serious players if we want to win anything!
We are bigger than Chelsea or Man city could ever be!
We deserve our trophies for supporting this club!

I would pick future Liverpool players, that we deserve.
Varane, VVD, Mascherano, Kante, Sign bale! Modric, Mbappe, Robben, Cavani, and let's give Messi the home he deserves.. His contract is running out.

SORT THIS OUT FSG or GTFO.
+1
Azeal are not bored yet lol?
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Bored? Sergio bro, i feel anew.
I have seen the truth and the answer to everything now, i have been fooled into thinking a club need to operate with cashflow earning and such, i have misled by corporations.

Fsg wants us to be sheeps and follow, so they can keep stealing our club money, profit, and toy us with cheap shitty players each season just to keep us excited. They wont sign real players with the intention to win, like city or chelsea or even man u.

I believe they also have paved way into investing in leicester, we can see in our previous game, they cut us open like rotten meat. I think fsg made them won the league 2 seasons ago to make us believe, it is not about money.

Now that i have seen the truth from a new perspective, it is pretty liberating. I have been rebirth sir.

Stop being stupid, make fsg sell the club. We need new owner with money, dont be a blind idiotic naive fans. See the truth! Fsg OUT!
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You was always the sarcastic guy on this forum.. But I never knew you could take it to this level lolol
+6
I'm finding this pretty entertaining. The amount of effort he's putting into this is impressive.
+2
Funny thing is that he makes some valid points in his rants
+9
What I find funny is that what he says in his rants is more accurate than what he used to say before. +1 Azeal
+1
^Your comment just kinda proved his point...


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