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I hope the jinx of the ox stops tonight.
Craig Shakespeare says Vardy will not feature at the weekend
Imagine this team lol

----Mane ---firmino --- Salah
-----coutinho---Lallana-----
------------ Can - - - - - -
Moreno - Matip - Gomez - Ox


Coz f**k defending
+1
The sentiment 'f**k defending' is embodied in the omission of a goalkeeper entirely. I approve. Not sure Ox approves, though.
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;]
I hope this team is the one to face arsenal lol.
I see that kieta is playing a more deeper role for RB this season, he still has freedom to attack but he is alot more disciplined in his game. I'm thinking this is something klopp has told him to work on.
i cannot wait to see him play for LFC! I hope Can sticks around, I can see them dominating the midfield together next year
That's one thing I hope we get to see
Because Klopp told him he'll be replacing our sorry excuse for a captain lol
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Lol it's a f***ing meltdown on this page. Lol but I can't blame u guys feel the same way
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Yeah lol
At the moment, what we need is a clean sheet. I dont care if its 0-0 as long as we dont concede its ok. That would show true "character" and true progress
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Br: Great character and intensity!
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Since LFC bought Lovren in 2014, we've spent just £7.5m on centre-backs

Gomez - £3.5m
Caulker - Loan
Matip - Free
Klavan - £4m

Oooffta that's just tough to come to terms with
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It's certainly showing...

Although the Matip transfer was good
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That's pretty f****d ay lol.

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Stingy as f***
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Hmm - we will probably make that 7.5M about a 100 million in Jan - we need to and yes, its certainly showing. Defense is as integral as any other position in football. We simply didnt address it and are paying for it. The EPL is the toughest league in world football and defense is where teams should start for being solid
The Matip transfer was f*****g brilliant.
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Missed out on Höwedes, he hasn't played his 1st game for Juve yet.
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We should loan him in and bring in vvd too
+1
Like i said before. 2 injuries away from being totally f'ked.

I'll blame both FSG & Klopp.
Klopp on letting Sakho go without a replacement.
FSG for not having the foresight to chime in & say we are short at the back. They have wonderful knowledge of football haven't they. I wonder if they would sit back & see the same thing happening at RedSox.

What's done is done. Support the team. YNWA.
+3
Agreed, fsg is to blame on this.
How are we left with no good defenders? How many more decades will it take til we sign varane and vvd, this stupidy needs to end and they need to give us world class defender or simply let us free, stop f*****g with our future.

This is liverpool fc, we dont need them, they need us.
Stop milking our money from our club and fans #fsgout
Klopp out too for being so stupid, no defender? Seriously? No wonder dortmund got rid of him.
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FSG are owners not managers. What the hell xD
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^ Exactly. Do you guys seriously think the owners know anything about managing a football club? Why should they? Businesses are run by managers, not shareholders...
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Azeal is just taking the piss lol.
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If only the owners had done their job of bringing in a world class manager and backroom staff, OH WAIT. THEY DID :O
In a perfect world our owners, whoever they might be, would have fantastic Football knowledge and could chime in if they saw issues not being addressed.

In saying that I could see a lot of tension and issues arising between owners and managerial personnel.

I don't think Klopp is stupid. I'm just having a hard time trying to rationalize why other defenders weren't scouted and marked as potential targets. Without knowing so many unknown variables I can't really come up with a probable answer.
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I like how you guys go on tangents of pessimistic topics after a bad result. You win and EVERYTHING is good, right from FSG to Klopp to Klavan to Christian Poulsen :D You lose one and EVERYTHING is fcuked again..haha
They are not beautiful human beings and certainly do not posses "character".
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Well I agree - thats what noone has been able to explain. Klopp is obviously a great manager no question. He is experienced and obviously knew we were short at the back. Dont know what happened? So yes, without knowing what went wrong, we cannot say if it was Klopp or FSG (even though they dont decide scouting) or both or none but we all agree that something went wrong in our planning for sure

(cue for Azeal's rant) - Rant in 5..4..3..2..1
Yeah I mean the entire club hierarchy can't be so dumb to say we dont need a defender. We were willing to pay 70M for VVD so it was surely a recognized area of improvement..but like you said it baffles me to see no alternate targets being pursued. Would like to know the reason behind VVD or nothing kind of an attitude..
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Is Dreamfooty working this season?

If it does, don't use any of our players!

We need to invest on the team, let's face it, the current team is the worse team to have faked their way into champions league. Defense is clearly not working, midfield? Seriously.. we signed an Arsenal reject? Is that our best move? Hello scouting and hiring committee, i have 2 words for you 'f*** *ff'. Forward? Have you seen us winning games?

We need to buy serious players if we want to win anything!
We are bigger than Chelsea or Man city could ever be!
We deserve our trophies for supporting this club!

I would pick future Liverpool players, that we deserve.
Varane, VVD, Mascherano, Kante, Sign bale! Modric, Mbappe, Robben, Cavani, and let's give Messi the home he deserves.. His contract is running out.

SORT THIS OUT FSG or GTFO.
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Azeal are not bored yet lol?
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Bored? Sergio bro, i feel anew.
I have seen the truth and the answer to everything now, i have been fooled into thinking a club need to operate with cashflow earning and such, i have misled by corporations.

Fsg wants us to be sheeps and follow, so they can keep stealing our club money, profit, and toy us with cheap shitty players each season just to keep us excited. They wont sign real players with the intention to win, like city or chelsea or even man u.

I believe they also have paved way into investing in leicester, we can see in our previous game, they cut us open like rotten meat. I think fsg made them won the league 2 seasons ago to make us believe, it is not about money.

Now that i have seen the truth from a new perspective, it is pretty liberating. I have been rebirth sir.

Stop being stupid, make fsg sell the club. We need new owner with money, dont be a blind idiotic naive fans. See the truth! Fsg OUT!
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You was always the sarcastic guy on this forum.. But I never knew you could take it to this level lolol
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I'm finding this pretty entertaining. The amount of effort he's putting into this is impressive.
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Funny thing is that he makes some valid points in his rants
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What I find funny is that what he says in his rants is more accurate than what he used to say before. +1 Azeal
So I feel a little better now after that defeat.. Thinking alot more rationally with alot of the negativity out of my head. I replayed the match againts Leicester and Burnley and the key thing in them games I picked up on was bad decision making in the final third. I think we should still look at the positivity of the amount of chances we created and if half of the final balls were correct we could have scored by 4 or 5 in both games. Some damn right obvious and mind boggling. I think the players need to stay focused and aim to be a lot more brave. For example in both games I noticed our midfielders looked to play the safer option instead of being more direct. We badly miss Lallana as he was fantastic and playing in small spaces. Coutinho is good at it but he is not at full match fitness at the moment.

As for the defence, i can honestly say now that both goals we conceded if we had a better Dm we could have avoided both. Can could have stopped the goal againts Burnley if he was switched on and the same for hendo againts Leicester. We seem to be weak on the counter as it often means our center backs are left to defend with no cover from midfield.

Klopp has his work cut out but I can see things getting better soon, it all starts with a good win this weekend. YNWA my bros
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Its still way to early. Look at Chelsea last season. Their fans pretty much gave up on the season after a few games. Especially after that Arsenal drubbing. So its still way too early to make any judgments. Only 5 points from the top. Now if things remain the same for another few more games then i would say it would be time to panic.
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Better stop that positive outlook before you're called delusional
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Also this Carling Cup is the least in importance of trophies to win. Now you guys have a bit of breathing space while Chelsea have a random fixture vs Everton..
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Mane Firminho Salah seems to be the forward combination that works best so far ... would like to see coutinho in cm as opposed to on the wing with Can and Gini supporting the back 4 when necessary . even if they score we should be able to outscore them
Great point - the CDM position might be key here. Provide more cover to defense when their confidence is low
Not disagreeing with the bit about the DM but it seems funny that sometimes there is so much emphasis on a DM because if there is any pressure on the defence they crumble. Like isn't that the defense's job? To defend against the opponents? Having a better DM would help them out but ultimately it's the defense's job to defend, and they should be capable of that.
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We need to buy Kante

I have no idea why we are stuck with players like Can and Hendo, these players are not good enough to be wearing the great liverpool jersey let alone be on a starting XI.

This is a disgrace, look at how far we have fallen.
Klopp out FSG out
@Kevmo we have a really shaky defense .. heard matip and lovren are a doubt so we would most likely go with the same back four we had on Tuesday . they will need the support
CDM is an important position these days. When the wing banks go missing, the CDM sweeps in and helps. Some of the best teams have excellent CDMs. Can can actually be an asset here. He is physical and good at covering and passing. Why not?
Spot on^
Cos he is s**t, mediocre at best. Liverpool football club is top football club in the world with net earning around the top 10 with best football supporter / fans in the world.

We should never operate with these losers, we need winners. Can isn't a Liverpool material, we need Mascherano back, to the very least. An old donkey worth more than this fake ass German horse.

KLOPP needs to spend, he is too naive and stupid, we need to win soon the fans have been waiting for too long. If we don't win at least a champions league at the end of the season, we need to replace klopp.

KLOPP OUT! ENOUGH EXCUSES!
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Who here has legitimately said Klopp out?
Klopp deserves criticism but when it comes down to it he's not out on the pitch making sunday league defensive errors. Management and our players need to hold a meeting before the L. City match. We need leadership now more than ever. Wish Carra was out there still screaming at the defenders


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