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http://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/23g9uf/2_players_on_loan_from_liverpool_borini_assaidi/

Lol. Will we see anyone in the media complain about loans?
Btw, what happened to Oscar? Why is he playing badly so far? Its like he's having confidence issues which idk why.

Its a sudden dip in form
Sudden? he's been like this since Mata left lol.
Even when Mata was here, his games were average at best.
Hope you guys bounce back and do well in the CL.
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Hazard pls be fit
On top of it all I just had to defend Ramires and then he thanks me by playing the kind of game he did today -________________________________- fck me
i defended him too bro, i won't now, its a shame really, i wanted him to do good but when he hit Larsson, i was just done. Forever a legend for that legendary goal but i think its time to move on
How is today's loss Ramires fault? Because he failed to score?

Take it easy on him.

Last two games people praise Ba because he scored, and people blame on Ramires because we lost? A little more logical is to blame Schwartzer because of his mistake and we lost the momentum. We actually played better than City against Sunderland, City were actually lucky to have a point, but we lost because of very silly mistake and a harsh penalty call.
Him throwing his hand was not called and had nothing to do with anything he was great in 1st half and didn't do much in 2nd overall he had a good match.
Before this season Ramires had 20 goals and 13 assists the last 2 season's but its Time for him to now to move on and why wonder others call Chelsea fans spoiled and entitled
I've tried not to say this for a say this for a long time, but our game is ugly. We are boring, we are clueless, and that is why we lose games. I know it is great that we value defense, but whats the point in having the best defense in the league if you can't score goals. I remember people saying they'd rather win 1-0 than 3-1, I full heartedly disagree. I hope to see this changed by next season. I don't hate our football, don't get me wrong, I just think we are so worried about conceding we haven't allotted the necessary time for improving our offense.
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What can you do when the players can't even hit the target and will miss the simple chances? Creativity isn't the issue but it's how accurately they can deliver the creativeness. And without Hazard we don't have a leader in offense. Oscar has been s**t for months. And Schurrle, Willian are not the type of players who can lead the offense.

Kudos to Liverpool, they have players who can easily finish a game like this.
You shouldn't complain. Yesterday you posted that we should criticize Ramires less, because while he doesn't have great technical ability, he has heart and determination.

If we keep playing him, Ivanovic, Oscar for other aspects of their game, and ignore things like creativity, then of course we'll play ugly lol.
i really cant stand ivanovic playing as a rb ..he cant cross for s**t
blame schwartzer for fumble that shot back into the danger zone and azpil losing the ball and diving in recklessly. WHY U DIVE IN EVEN U KNOW UR IN THE BOX?
Silly mistakes cost the game and possibly the title
The player made most out of it. It was a legit tackle that would have blocked the shot. I saw nothing wrong in that attempt.

Schwartzer should have foreseen how that block would drop and fall right in front of him.

Since last week I had bad feeling about this Sunderland. Title was so close. There is no way Liverpool will lose to Norwich. But I think we will be able to beat Liverpool and help City win title.
why r u hating us?
Light blue is still kinda blue.
+1
Mou also has to take some of the blame for the tactics he used today. We def didn't need oscar nor willian on the pitch to track back for this type of game today. Sunderland were going to pick their moment to attack, so why not start with 2 attackers instead of a cam...... Ba and eto'o starting upfront would have been perfect
bluff, possibly lacking a better target man up front is hampering our progress this season..
I think Mou has to take the blame in the sense that he hasn't been able to improve us in these types of games. Palace, Villa, WBA, WH, Sunderland and most likely Cardiff in two weeks time.

Same sh*t different bottom club.
yeah exactly, he needs to do something about this next season. Winning the title doesn't include just beating the big teams. It's more than that. This is his weakness atm
I think he took blame for it a long time ago, but many dismissed it as mind games.

He clearly stated we had no striker and all the ones we would want to go for in January are either too expensive or cup tied or both.

I don't understand how we all can be freaking out left and right when this was such an obvious problem that Mou has, once again, clearly stated would be fixed in his next year.

Guys, if strikers can't put the ball in the net with all the clear chances they had that is the player's fault, not the manager. The manager, as basic as this sounds, sets up the team tactically so the striker can have enough chances to score and the defense as solid as it can be to allow for the scoring to happen.

In all the games we lost, did we not have more than enough chances to score?

Plain and simple, we need new strikers during the summer window and until then I honestly don't see how we can complain or act surprised that this is happening.
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Definitely. We all know what's going to happen, yet he does nothing to (effectively) try to change it.
@Aatir precisely the reason i'd have liked to see more of Ba, he would'v been better starting some of those games as opposed to Torres. In fact, he should'v started today. The only reason i can think that he didn't was that Mou was saving him for Tuesday, same with Luiz

@Ghanakid21 Mourinho is not untouchable here, starting Torres against Palace was idiotic, and losing that many games to those kinds of clubs in the manner of which we'v done so especially with our resources and talent is just not acceptable im sorry.

I can understand 1-2 freak results here and there, but we are talking about the 6-8th time now, story of our club during the post Didier era, only this time it hurts a hell of a lot more. Better now then against Cardiff i guess.
@Theo, what are his options? Look at our attacking options and tell me what would you do better. He's already started Schurrle as a striker more than once and that was useless.

@Bluff, no one is untouchable, but that doesn't mean we blame people for things they don't have control over. No manager can pull a rabbit out of a hat and just win games without having proper strikers.

Even Fergie, who arguably won the league with a team on the verge of a collapse, had Rooney and RVP who put in great shifts up front.
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I said below, change formation.

We have changed formation several times during games and have been able to steal some goals, so why not ditch 4-2-3-1 for these games and try something else?
nvm, no point in this discussion now, lets see how things pan out after the summer window

at the beginning of the season i'd have taken 3rd or 4th and a long cup run, so i guess i shouldn't complain too much, potential is there.
I dont really think bringing new strikers will change everything, people on this Forum will quickly look for scapegoats after every defeat. Bringing new strikers means New Players trying to adapt to New players, probably New environment etc. What if the Problem isnt the strikers but the style of which the Team plays? For instance if ba,torres, etoo played for real Madrid how many goals will u think theyd score? If benzema,cavani, mandzukic were playing for chelsea will they still score that many goals?😕
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@Raikage - a striker is measured by his number of goals. We all know this, but something that many don't seem to realize sometimes is that it is also measured by the amount chances he has to score. As I said before, one of the basic jobs a manager does with his tactics is to set his team up for the striker to have enough chances to score. If this was a couple years ago, I'd agree with you because even though Torres didn't score often, he rarely had enough clear chances to score and that, I agree, was a tactical problem.

Now, our strikers have more than enough chances to score, yet continue to put the ball wide even when it is virtually an open net.

In that sense, yes I believe all of those strikers you mentioned would score for Chelsea if they had the same chances our strikers have. Furthermore, another aspect of a world class striker is to be able to find the net during the slimmest of chances/angles/time/etc.
@Raikage. How many Chelsea games have you watched this season? Are you going by assumption or do you actually know that new strikers won't change anything? Are you aware of the actual numbers coming from our strikers in terms of goals? Because it's abysmal. And it wasn't like this 3-4-5 years ago. I'm getting tired of other supporters coming here saying we're spoiled and don't know what's wrong with our own team. Most of us here watch every game live and then watch the highlights multiple times over. We're not professional managers but we have a pretty smart group of supporters here that know what we're talking about. And to answer you question about whether Cavani, Mandzukic and Benzema, emphatically yes! Having those players at our disposal would change things overnight. Don't believe me, watch it unfold.
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Will a world class striker help? Yes of course, it would help any team but ask yourself a much bigger question. If Chelsea REQUIRES a world class striker just to best middle teams, what does that say for the quality of the service? Sunderland don't have a world class striker yet they managed to score, as do many many other teams without a world class striker. Perhaps you should look more at why a team with such talent can't create tap in opportunities etc, you have several strikers that would walk into most teams starting lineups, it's only part of the problem, rather than being the answer.
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Zilch, you are missing the point here. Sunderland beating chelsea is more of a stunt not a likely outcome.
^yes!!!!! EDIT - to Chelsea -61

Zilch, I think that's generalizing the issue though. I respect your opinion, but I believe the direction we are heading in terms of tactics don't suit the style of strikers we have. None of them, except for a past his prime Eto work well in tight spaces. The chance Ba missed the Sunderland game is a good example of that. Beautiful lay off from Willian that practically put Ba in front of an open net and he missed it.

We are on the same page in the sense that we both agree we are not playing Fifa, so bringing in a high caliber striker just because we can doesn't solve our issue. Torres can testify to that. I'm saying that we need to bring in the TYPE of striker that fits our mold. We see what happens when we try to constantly change our style of play to fit our striker and look how that got us?

Scoring goals and creating chances is a combination of many things ranging all the way up to intangible things like if a striker is not in a good mood (maybe something personal). As a chelsea fan since 98' and one who has watched and rewatched games like Chelsea61, I can assure you we have seen all or most of the many reasons why Chelsea can't put the ball in the net and so for that reason, I think we need new strikers.
Zilch has got it spot on

It's ridiculous if we just go out and buy a 50m striker when clearly thats not JUST what we need. There is no width, no midfield tempo (imagine a Modric type player beside Matic, Ramires is done for me, too many chances and not enough return, maybe Luiz but thats a tad defensive).

blaming just the strikers is foolish, this team still has a lot of flaws. Mourinho limits our fullbacks forwardness which makes our play so one dimensional and narrow, not to mention our lack of proper wingers, we have no width. And when things go wrong we lump everyone forward which usually leads to nothing and we end up conceding in the process almost always. Niether Willian nor Oscar make forward runs, take on defenders or make enough defence splitting passes (although tbf Willian has improved and i liked what i saw in the 2nd half today). Ofcourse our strikers finishing even 1/3 of the chances they get would help.

All in all, one dimensional, inconsistent finishing, ordinary attacking mids, no width, lack of proper crossers, horrible set piece defending (for some fked up reason), horrible horrible corners and possibly even more horrible throw ins.

I don't know what to think tbh, one week we thrash the big guns and another we lose to bottom teams (and not just a fluky loss, we play really poorly) mixed in with a unbelievable Napoli esc comeback, its been a strange season.

do we need strikers? yes, is that all thats missing? hell fkn no
Just buying a new striker wont help with all our problems but it definitely would be a start....

when Jose came to Chelsea he had to start from scratch rebuilding of this team.....the midfield,defense and attack were a team of their own rather than work as a unit,as Zilch had pointed out all of last season.....well Jose has been able to sort out one of those transitions this season....now the whole team defends as one(from the front) as has been mooted in the media and everywhere since Jose gave that interview in October....but there is a lot of work to be done when we move the ball in other direction(when we attack)....

while attacking our team is still separated into 3 units...the back four dont join (or in Bane's case its inconsequential),midfield was a wreck before Matic came in January and it is left to usually the front 4 to break down a parked bus of 8 defenders in the box(and when Hazard isnt in the game we look out of sorts)....

By getting Matic in January,we got one part of the pivot spot on....a midfield general and ball circulator who would start our attacks and can control the "tempo" of the game....but that other half and which imo should be a worldclass 'box to box' midfielder is still missing as none of our CMs can fill that role(if only Lamps was 10 years younger)....Jose has auditioned Ramires in that role a lot this season but he has dissapointed and its safe to say that he wont be first choice next season....

even with the lack of a b2b midfielder,the condition of our play is definitely improved since January but there is still no one making those late runs in the box to catch the opposition unawares.....this leads to our attack "predictable" and stagnant against stiff defenses and also causes us to be outnumbered in the midfield(attacking third) too when already we are outnumbered in the wings due to cautious fullback play....

the crux of it is yes striker wont solve all our problems but we desperately need someone capable both mentally and skillwise to lead our attack....but having said that we still need to do a lot of work in playing as a team in the attacking third and a really worldclass b2b midfielder would help our cause immensely(imagine Pogba or Ramsey alongside Matic)....also need to sort out the fullback situation and imo if Mou really needs atleast one of the fullbacks to stay back,then take a leaf out of Atleti's book and allow an attacking one to overlap on atleast one of the wings(like they do with Felipe Luis).....apart from the usual big money players like i mentioned above(Pogba and all),imo if Everton are still interesed i would do a player swap of Lukaku with Barkley as he could take that place vacated by Lamps....(as for Lukaku,i doubt he would be happy to play a second fiddle to the new striker and we can get someone like Bony that could compete for the place in the squad).....

this season was always one for transition and having assessed all his options in the squad this season after laying a solid foundation for the next,Jose will get the players he wants this summer and complete the puzzle....

Keep calm and trust in Jose!
Seems we agree with each other in principle then :)
Look basically Mou has setup the team in his classic style which is defend and counter attack. At Madrid he had Ronaldo, Benzema, Higuain etc and their quality made it work. However is it the best way for Chelsea to play? That's massively debatable. Currently you have very little width in attack cos of his cautious play style. In Matic you have the kind of player required to hold the middle and allow Chelsea a more free flowing attacking game going forwards, confident that the back 4 are well protected. But Mou won't do that. His style has always been to defend first and score off the few clear cut chances created and when that doesn't work, he blames the team and not his tactics.
@Badreferee: that "stunt" has happened time and time again this season and possiy cost you the title. I think it's you that is missing the point. Chelsea cannot break down a parked bus, that's not just on the strikers, that's due to a lack of effectiveness in coordinating attacks. Why do you think you score on the counter and not against a well organised deep lying defense?
Have to agree with you GreatChelsea. It's games like this that make me realise the full impact of having Ramsey out for so long for Arsenal. I too believe that Chelsea need a great b2b, you have too many attacking mids and no passionate bloke in the middle of the park. And forgive me for saying this, Luiz just isn't good enough to play that role.
+1
yeah seems like Jose would agree with you too in regards to Luiz but for now he is the best of the lot....if Jose wanted to mould him into a b2b midfielder he would have played him from the start in that role...it is another stopgap role just like for Azpi....and even if Luiz is ultimately continued to be played in midfield imo it would be the Matic role rather than a b2b one(just like we have done it in CL this season)....
btw etioo... i think mou usually takes the blame a lot lot..
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