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It's okay, our team has been so s**t we don't have much to say anyway :P It's been boring here.

P.S. Bro about my request.. It's almost 2 months now :( I understand you can't do much, but damn are they slow
I read that Conte has approved that Courtois can leave. I know alot of people will question him but if that is true, I can only applaud him.


I personally feel even though, Courtois will someday be great, right now I think he is highly overrated and he hasnt done anything more than Begovic in my opinion.

That coupled with his arrogance attitude and also talking without regard for the fans, plus we all knew he was never gonna stay in d club for long.

I honestly wont mind if we can get some good fee for him.

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I disagree with that, T-Bo is a great keeper, he has saved us many of times and he is still young, he will only improve, letting T-BO would bite us in the ass like KDB
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You say you applaud him but who are you going to get,Begovic?Begovic is a very good second keeper and that's it.Courtois helped bring us the league double and won the Spanish title before that.One bad season doesn't define a player.I know he is acting like a bitch apparently some Belgium players like to.
i stopped reading when you want to compare him to Begovic
Its fair to disagree with my comparison of T-Bo and begovic. All i said , he hasnt dont anything more than Begovic, at least this season in my opinion.

Also, I get he can be "a great keeper", he isnt yet a great keeper, but with his whining attitude and literally talking himself up for a transfer, that isnt the best of character you want around a club.

And about him winning the league in spain, Come on, Any decent keeper will shine with athletico, theres a reason De-gea, T-bo and even oblak all shinned there, their defence is rock solid.

My point is, he isnt great yet, It would be nice to have him around when he will become great, but only if he can change his attitude.
the u18's retained the fa youth cup for the third consecutive year in a row.
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Our boys have dominated in Europe and domestically like no team has in history with close comparisons to United's Busby babes, class of 92, Ajax academy of the 70s/80s and Messi's La Masia set under Pep. I just hope the Club and first team Coaches find a way to transition the best of them into the first team which is the only way we can see the Club's philosophy take hold. Prompting academy Coaches to the first team will help the cause as well
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Lol what the heck are you talking about? i mean tremendous accomplishment but your're comparing the reserve team accomplishments to actual first team accomplishments? i mean how many times have utd's u21 team won the league? great feat but getting them into the first team is the real goal, otherwise whats the point? trophies are not the best measurement of success when it comes to youth teams. southampton produces some of the finest talent in the country. think of all their players now playing in and around the first team elsewhere at a good league from gareth bale to walcott, luke shaw, lallana, ward prowse, etc. thats the real measuring stick. again, great feat, very impressive, but strange comparison.
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SIS.. I understand ur frustration since class of 1992 the richest Club in the world can hardly point to any academy product nor academy trophies to at least show sfor the money invested.I was not born when Busby babes were doing their thing. I only read about the comparison on BBC,Daily Mail or Sky.

The goal of youth football isnt only about progression to the first team of the parent Club but actually getting into first teams around the world. Our academy is still young but in recent years we have come a long way which is evidenced by the several loanees we have around Europe. Christensen,Musonda,Chalobah,Ake,Van Aanholt,Bertrand,Thorgan, Boga, Pasalic are just a few who are starters or competing for first team positions at other Clubs without mentioning Vitesse squad. Now if that does not equal what any Club has at this stage of our academy and players' ages then I dont know what is.

FYI trophies are the most sure indication of success ok. Thats why SAF will be long rememberd than Wenger.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_United_F.C._Reserves_and_Academy

idk what you are talking about, our youth teams routinely win trophies. i don't know where you assumed utd youth dont win trophies, i only just mentioned they won the reserve league for the umpteenth time o w/e it's called these days. they are wearing the gold badges so i know they won last year as well..

and i said YOUTH football isn't measured purely by trophies, the whole point of an academy is to produce your own talent. end of. sure if your talent go on to play in the top leagues then thats a success, but ultimately you want to produce talent for your first team, unless you are a farm system.

what i found funny is you were comparing your youth products results to the results of first team players instead of other youth teams's results, and this makes no sense. and i am not passin any judgement on your academy or it's players, i know you guys have a strong set of youth players, i just dont understand why you are comparing your academy to the class of 92 and busby babes (first team) honors. you are comparing academy football of your team with first team football of other teams, and that makes no sense at all.
Its me or i might be wrong if I offend you guys but alot of Chelsea players are from African countries and they look alot older for their age.
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when it comes to opinions you cant defeat SIF.

back to main topic, i think we have to give more credit to out youth team coaches, i have watched a lot of our youth team games and i can tell you that our youth team coaches contributed 80% of our winnings, they are very technically sound and always get the better of opponent by knowing their strength and weaknesses .even against PSG u19 if you comes to talents PSG has more talents but our guys are more technically sound and hits PSG through their weak points.
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SIS - at times you really needs to verify what someone is conveying before you just to conclusion. I don't think Naija is comparing our academy lads to the first team class of 92 but rather how they also came from the youth system.

Sianinvincible - you are wrong. Most of these kids are actually European born.
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Gapha.. Spot on mate.

Sianinvincible....just to add to Gapha's post I wouldn't blame some who falsify their age bcos most of them already wasted years playing Street football and do not have the luxury of academies and been watched by top scouts everyday. As for saying African foitballers look older I think Rooney will say otherwise. If Rooney were African and started balding at 23 they would be an outcry by media. In the end its their performance that matters and most African players have overcome several odds to be where they are unlikely British spoon fed players

There's a saying around my neck of the woods "black don't crack" if anything we look younger than our actual age.
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SIF - You said Southampton produce finest talent in the country and maybe your right...but from your list above apart for Bale all other are bullshit.lol!!

Btw chelsea's focus in not to produce finest talents...we have clubs like Southampton to do that.

And as far united academy players are concerned....just wait for next manager to be appointed and see how all those kids will disappear back to reserve team.
i still don't think you guys are even understanding me. those youth teams (busby babes, ajax, la masia) were and are measured not by the trophies at reserve level, but their accomplishments in the first team. it's not so hard to understand.

yes i understand your point that your reserves are doing well in the reserve leagues, but reserves success is NOT the reason you know of the busby babes etc.

these players were fast-tracked into the first team at their respective clubs, thats one of the reasons their reserve team accomplishments are not very-well talked about as they didnt stay in those reserves for very long. most of them made their first team debut, and then were in and around the first team squad, as 17 and 18 year olds, well under the u21 limit, so they didnt stick around those levels for very long at all. the really elite dont hang around in the reserves, thats my point. their reserve success is a footnote, it's their first team success that mattered.

and shaw is not bullshit, the kid is amazing!
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Sif does have a point. A few appearances for the first team is worth far more than being a regular in a title winning reserve team.
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A youth team is winning title after title but they don't break into first team = the club's youth policy is broken.
One final thing: the best performing youth/reserve teams choose tactics and formations to suit their strength. The most useful youth/reserve teams from the first team point of view play according to the first team's tactics and formation so that transition is easier. This often comes at the cost of some losses in their own league. So winning a lot of titles is not unambiguously good..
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How do youth team players gets noticed to get a shot a senior team? They play well an win whatever is available to them thereafter they must be consistent at their level so as to erase any doubts of being one season wonders. After that they can make the leap to men's football at their parent Club,other Clubs at any professional level (championship etc) or abroad.

Tanmay: ur second post does not hold water. Youth teams can win and win but the whole squad cannot just move into first team. Top Clubs do one if these; keep the best, loan some out or sell. Doing any of those 3 doesn't mean the Club's youth policy is broken mate. Chelsea try to send their best prospects on loan to let them experience men's football with the view of keeping the best and selling some who aren't up to standard to fund first team recruitment.

Winning a lot of titles is so unambiguously brilliant it is inconceivable to think otherwise. The academy winning trophies actually shows that they are successful and the youth Coaches and staff can actually have proof of their good work. Our youth teams have a set style of play and a small part of which is that Midfielders are trained to play in every midfield position to make them well rounded. Our first team dont have a defined style due to the Managerial changes we've had over the years.

I dont know what Tanmay and SIF are trying to say but its absolutely fallacy to suggest that our youth team aint successful. We are the most successful youth team in Europe atm and at home having been on steady remarkable growth over the last 5 years. What the youth are achieving now is the fruition of years of hard work now its over to the new Coach to see which of them can transition to first team.
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You don't know what I'm trying to say?

Your academy has done great. For years it has been known to win and have great players. The final step is promoting some to the first team, as that's the whole point of having an academy. In other words, there's no rational comparison with the likes of the Busby babes and class of 92 if they don't come into the first team. That's the only reason you know of the class of '92 and Busby babes, it's because they had success with the first team. You had no idea united u21 team has been winning the title serially and that's because not many if any have made it to the first team in recent years. Just lingard this season is a regular plus rashford and a few new faces like fosu mensah but the new faces were not at the heart of recent success for the u21s.
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@Naija yes i agree that there is nothing wrong with loaning young players out per se. The sense in which the youth system is broken in Chelsea is that the standard set for youth players to break into the first team is too high. This is in turn because the short term pressure to win trophies at chelsea is so high that no manager is willing to sacrifice current performance with an eye to the future. Compare this with Barca/Bayern/Madrid which have greater pressures to win but still blood 1-2 youngsters every year nowadays.
"Our youth teams have a set style of play" -- this is good in one way because it gives players proper training in one system. But it also has the downside that players trained in this system don't fit into the first team if the first team plays a different system. So while it is obviously great that your team is winning trophies that there might also be a downside to the system is not "inconceivable". I just conceived of a reasonable scenario in which there is a downside in fact.

Just to be clear, I'm pointing out problems with your youth system but i have no intention of attacking your team, so don't take this as an attack.
"I don't know what Tanmay and sif are trying to say but its an absolute fallacy to suggest that our youth team aint successful"

This should clarify our misunderstanding:
(1) Nobody is saying your youth team is not successful. It clearly is very successful!
(2) I also agree that being successful is in many ways a good sign. It is largely a good thing.
(3) but I am pointing out that success is not an end in itself for youth teams. For reasons described in my previous two posts, youth teams who chase success do so at least partly at the cost of becoming incompatible with the first team.
(4) by the same token, sif was saying that the hallmark of great youth teams like the Busby babes was that they were raised with an eye to playing for the first team. In other words, the great youth systems of the past put compatibility first.
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This whole conversation is a mess.

I think it all stems from the misunderstanding this comment contains:
"i mean tremendous accomplishment but your're comparing the reserve team accomplishments to actual first team accomplishments?"

He wasn't "comparing the reserve team...to actual first teams"; He was saying that Chelsea's youth team is performing as well as those teams did WHILE they were youth teams.

Let's at least focus the debate around that contention.

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Next, we need to be less ambiguous about which team we are even talking about here.

As of 12/13 there is no Reserve Team anymore. Instead we have a u21, u19, and u18.

Chelsea u18's just won the u18 FA Cup. Congrats!

While different Chelsea development teams have achieved great successes over the last several seasons, most of these teams have been comprised of many different players who shift in and out of the club.

Ultimately, it is absolutely fair to say that Chelsea's development squads have won a lot of trophies in the last few years, but I think it is a great overstep to say that these teams (read, "the specific group of specific players" or the "class") are on par with the other teams/classes originally mentioned.
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TheBokiya good try lol
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rigid 9goalin
North London teams are so brittle,cant withstand title winning pressure so who's plastic? Lol
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All hail Leicester. CL will either be fun and shockingly thrilling or really sad and depressingly short for the EPL contenders next year.
thank you mods for deleting the trolling comments
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Spurs drop 2 points at home today and they will surely drop few more at Bridge.

Congratulations to Leicester City for winning the league after finishing in the bottom half last season.

What an incredible achievement and an inspiring story for all the small clubs. The resilience and determination they showed reminds me of old Chelsea.

Well done to Spur who were equally good....But Leicester city wanted it more.

@Arsene wenger! - Facepalm :D
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Its unbelievable how pathetic and disinterested Spurs were in that second half, you wouldn't believe it for a team chasing the title.

In the opening 10 minutes, west brom had more possesion. Spurs hit some posts but overall were very poor by their standards, I'm shocked, thrilled and confused as to why.

Compare that to how Leicester city coped with the pressure, remarkable.
oh now you want to take points off top teams. what happened in the city game?!?!
^what happened in both legs against Arsenal and the away game at Spurs will repeat ...Anyways you wanna have a bet? Let me know I'm in.
I thought we were okay till WBA equalised & tbh, after that the pressure got to us. The pressure of playing behind Leicester finally got to us.
Bazinga: I think SIF was just joking that we could've helped Man U out by beating city, not saying that Chelsea can't beat top teams
spurs hit the bar 3 times.. very unlucky to draw that game
New to betting? Not to worry, just place a bet on Arsenal finishing 4th and Sunderland finishing 17th. Two of the safest bets in the game.
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The way things are going. Don't think we can manage 4th this year. So I'd say that's a losing bet on us my friend.
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95 - CESC FABREGAS
94 - Wayne Rooney
94 - Dennis Bergkamp
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Wow!!Fab will surpass Lampard by end of next season.
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^7 assists in 4 games ? Hmm
Bazinga he said by the end of next season, but Cesc can rank up 7 assist in 4 games if our players can finish his chances.
lol! my bad...yup no need to wait until end of next season for sure
At least we can end the season strong. Old fabregas and hazarad. Now waiting on the old Matic
I caught only the second half of the second half (hehe) and I thought Hazard was a bit rusty despite his goals. Just before the Willian goal, I simple cannot fathom why he didn't shoot (when he got the ball off Fab's fabulous flick).

Still, good for him to get 2 goals, and Fab was good as noone pressed him. Let's see how we play vs Spurs and Leicester.
These are the players I'd like to see part of our next season (excluded Ivanovic since he signed extension)

Must keep: Hazard, Cesc, Diego, Willian, Pedro, Azpi, Cahil, Zouma, RLC, Kenedy, Traore, Begovic, Matic, Baba

Meh (won't care too much if they are kept/sold): Terry, Courtois, Pato, Mikel, Miazga,

Must sell: Oscar, Remy, Falcao

Agree/disagree thoughts?
Woah is Courtois bad? He was contender for keeper of the season not long ago, havn't really been following Chelsea games to see
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sorry but courtois has way better potential and experience than begovic
miazga has not been enough chances so he can be 4th choice to prove himself
screw oscar for being the reason we lost mata
well terry might have to stay for leadership but he should accept way fewer game time...or just retire this season dammit lolol
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Cahill can go to be honest along with Oscar and Mikel.Of course Falco's gone,I would keep Pato and build on the rest.
Agree with most of ur ins and outs with just a few exceptions.

My must keeps; Courtois, Begovic, Azpi, Zouma, Ivanovic, Fabregas, Oscar, Hazard, Pedro, Kennedy, Traore, Willian, Matic, Baba, RLC, Pato, Miazga

To go ; Terry, Falcao, *Mikel, Remy, *Cahil

Terry is the number one to go bcos I want Conte to be the biggest character in the dressing room.

*Only if we are getting a Naingollan type DM and a seasoned ball playing CB



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I believe this team has the biggest problem in the defense so I would re build that back 4 with 2 solid center backs. I'd sell ivanovic and get a more athletic LB. Oscar, mikel, and courtios can leave. I'd definitely sell Falcao and Remy but give pato an extension. Fabregas definitely is a must keep but needs assistance from a proper DM for fabregas to have space to be creative. Hazard, pedro, willian, Costa a must keep
I knew the Courtois one would be controversial, Listen, by all means lets keep him, but if he demands a move away and we sell him, I won't be too dissapointed.

Cahill is the ONLY player left from the UCL final in Munich. Ivanovic, Cahill and Mikel are the only players left that were serial winners with Chelsea over the years. With Terry most likely leaving, we can't afford to lose those 3 either. Whether they are first teamers or on the bench, we need winners in our locker room, we need players who have been and played on the biggest stage.

Ivanovic and Mikel are not captains, they are not vocal players by any means. Mikel is actually average, and is only good as a bit part player. I'd really like Cahill (or Cesc) to be our next Captain.
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For some reason I believe it should be and will be Cesc .He doesn't take s**t and is definitely not afraid to let you have it.
Cahill is s**t. I was in favour of the signing when AVB got him, but there has been no progress from him. He makes last ditch tackles to cover up a lot of his own mistakes.
Liquidator.. Couldn't agree more with u on Cahil. Its the same reason I want Mikel out..they offer no competition and at this stage in our development as a club we dont need a CB who cannot move out with the ball or make a cross field pass. Also we do not need a DM who cannot cover ground quick enough to join a counter attack or hunt down/ catch up with opposing attackers if we are caught on the break.
No1chelsea: I think ivanovic has played much better at CB and I think we should keep him.

No question the top needs are a fast DM, a CB, and a backup striker

Will conte pursue more strikers so Chelsea can play 2 strikers?
I hope we play with two strikers. I am sick of seeing the 4-2-3-1.


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