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Reports comming out saying Jeremie Boga's release clause is set as high as €40 mil. So not to worry guys, Lennes can't afford that unless he turns out the be the next Hazard. And in that case I'm sure we can exercise an option to keep him.

http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2015/9/2/9248243/chelsea-wonderkid-jeremie-bogas-buyout-is-a-whopping-40m-report
A little bit of magic from Eden for Belgium after 60 disappointing minutes from him and it's 3-1!
Damn Hazard needs to find his last year form ASAP
Hazard always sucks for belgium
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This Hazard fellow looks to be better than Ronaldo
Ronaldwho?
Bayern's B team spanked by Jahn Regensburg 3-1. :P

Why they play friendlies mid season as a head scratcher.
Anyone watching Belgium vs Bosnia match. It's about to start now. I will be interested to see how Hazard,KDB,Tbo,Lukaku, Begovic all perform today. So many present and former Chelsea player on display in this match. I am particularly interested in Hazard to see whether he will be more attack oriented and show more initiative or play like he has been playing for Chelsea. Hopefully he shows signs of improvement in this match so that he can bring that form to Chelsea.
I think us not getting the level of players we wanted this transfer window will see Mou assessing the team's performance seeing which individual players aren't improving/regaining form and potentially go hunting for quality players in the January transfer window.
I'm sure we're not done bidding for Pogba. The question is, does he want to come to Chelsea? Well, do ya POGBA!?
The new Stadium plan is awesome! Looks like a cathedral of football. Can't wait to go there!

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http://i.imgur.com/aqCwLgd.jpg
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Its not a school for children who can't read good and want to do other stuff good too! :D
Chelsea's Loan Army on Google Maps
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#RuiningFootballSince2004

@Zilch: :*
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no papy dj in the cl squad, here's the full squad

http://www.espnfc.us/chelsea/story/2593908/chelsea-champions-league-squad-pedro-in-djilobodji-out
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No Papy but we got Happy! :P
I know we're all a little upset about the transfer window, but if I told you all back in june that we would get Pedro, Begovic, Falcao, and a couple promising young defenders, I'm sure you'd all be pretty excited.

I'm sure we all wanted a new CM, but otherwise most of us would've thought we did good business with that.

Nobody, not even Mou, could've predicted our defenders and CMs would play this bad to open the season, so the business we did wasn't bad considering that. Let's just hope they get back in form over the international break and we turn things around.
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Not really upset tbh. Pedro was a steal and Begovic is more than decent. Still on the fence about Falcao, and we'll see if Papy plays a real role or was only bought to light a fire under the other CB's arses.

Not getting Pogba was a let down but hey, he's one of the best in the world and he obviously has his sights set elsewhere as he would have handed in a transfer request if he really wanted Chelsea. Plenty of fish in the sea anyways, and ones that don't cost £80+ mil. Although I never really cared about pricetags. Its not our money and FFP is dead so who cares.
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61 lol. "Pedro was a steal". By saying 'steal' do you mean getting him for cheap or common thievery? Because let's face it, the way that went down its as if Woody had left the bank vault opened while penny pinching :).
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:P You caught my double meaning there GSS.
Honest question: Why is Hazard being mentioned in the same breath as Ronaldo and Messi? To me Hazard isn't even in the top 5 wingers, let alone almost on the same level as Messi and Ronaldo. Bale, Reus, Robben, Ronaldo, Neymar, D. Costa are all better wingers than him. I'm confused.
Hazard was the MVP player in the premier league , he has every right to be in the top 5 wingers , he can determine the the outcome of a match which is why he gets compared to CR7 and Messi
also Sanchez deserves a mention
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This is a clear case of name made in the past over present form. What has Bale and Rues got over Hazard? Why would you put them above him? Have you been following the EPL?
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You forgot Shinji Kagawa.
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@realfan The key point in your statement is "to me", just because you don't see him as a top 5 winger doesn't mean he isn't one. and people don't compare him to messi or ronaldo, they say he can emulate their feats if he works hard enough.
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And Zaha
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Lets look at some stats of those mentioned wingers and Hazard. The stats appear in this order, games-goals-assist. These are their 2014/15 stats from all games except int. caps.

(24) Douglas Costa 32-5-5, goal/assist every 3.20 games
(24) Hazard 49-19-11, goal assist every 1.63 games
(26) Bale 47-19-10, goal assist every 1.62 games
(26) Reus 27-11-6, goal assist every 1.59 games
(23) Neymar 47-39-7, goal assist every 1.02 games
(31) Robben 29-20-9, goal assist every 1.00 games

As you can see, Hazard's goal/assist ratio is right among all of the wingers you mentioned bar Neymar and Robben.

Robben has 7 years over Hazard and is at his peak.

Neymar is a better goal scorer than Hazard.

Douglas Costa is pretty unknown so I can't say too much about him, but you can see his stats for last season and make your own judgement.

Bale and Reus have near identical ratios to Hazard despite being 2 years older.
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In summary, it looks like it would make sense to include Hazard in the same bracket as those 5-6 wingers, please tell us how "Bale, Reus, Robben, Ronaldo, Neymar, D. Costa are ALL BETTER wingers than Hazard"

I'm confused.
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I'm trying to keep a mature, honest conversation going on and a mod makes a joke? Nice.

Anyway, BluFFmaster... Douglas Costa is currently better than Hazard. He has had an amazing start to the season, and under Pep he will become a world class winger.

We all know the pressure Bale is under. Last season, which he had better stats than Hazard, he was under alot of heat for not performing at the level that was expected. This season he is playing in a new position, so lets see how it goes. But as far as Bale's whole career vs Hazard's whole career, Hazard doesn't hold a candle to Bale.

Reus is someone that literally pisses me off. He is a world class player that is wasting his time at Dortmund. Sure they had a great fairytale with Klopp, but thats over and he should have moved this summer. Anyways, Reus on his day is more dangerous than Hazard. That is my, and a lot of other people's, opinion.

I think we can all agree Neymar is light years ahead of Hazard.

Same with Robben.

edit: You say Bale and Reus are 2 years older than Hazard. Does that really matter? Hazard is playing for Chelsea, the main guy for his team and gets a f**k load of attention. Being 2 years younger than those two isn't an excuse.
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Hazard is a world class player and maybe in the top 5 but there are plenty ahead of him.

I like him though.. I'd prefer Hazard over Bale BUT Bale is also being played out of position and is second fiddle to Ronaldo. On top of all that, in a trophyless season, Bale bettered Hazard.

@Bluff

You're right in saying that it's unfair to hazard to be compared to guys in their peak (i.e. Robben). however, Hazard isn't a raw 19 year old talent. He's at his peak or close to his peak. He himself said that he's at his peak but can't see himself being at the level of Messi/Ronaldo and is content with 15-20 goals a season. Given that, there are plenty of players better than Hazard, including Neymar.

@Drog

Who compares him to Messi and Ronaldo? He's not even close..
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A: I think Douglas costa put up his numbers from last year in a small league. I know in ur opinion his 4 game dominance over bundesliga opponents (who bayern never beat) makes him better than hazard because of his slow start, but that's silly.

B: you probably only look at numbers. Hazard does more for us than just score, he draws multiple defenders to him and has great hold up play. Also CFC doesn't score 35378983459 goals per season like real and barca, so of course he won't score as much as their wingers

C: reus wasting his time at dortmund?? dude, they have great players (more before bayern bought em up), a great coach, amazing fans, and he had a CL final run... real went 7 years without making a champions league final before mou came there (if you're old enough to remember), by those standards do you think players were wasting their time there? the game wouldn't be nearly as interesting if every top player went to real barca or bayern
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So, you come here and claim you want a reasoned debate - yet in response to Bluff's reasoned use of stats and contextual analysis - you merely restate your opinion and seem to apply a greater degree of consideration for extenuating circumstances? Just randomly respond with "lightyears better anyway" lol, you want reasoned and rational debate? Bring some reason and rationality. Plus, everyone here sees your constant shitposts of Mou, Chelsea fans and Hazard in the RM forum so we all have decent reason to doubt your intentions

If you want to know why so many rate Hazard, then watch him. Hazard is the ultimate classical team attacking player. He can score some truly stunning goals, he wins an incredible number of fouls and penalties because defenders simply don't know how to deal with him. His dribbling allows others to roam in attacking positions, he creates more chances than most players and when the team is down and in pressure, time and time again Hazard brought the goods. City away in 2013-14, Utd at Home in 14-15, Sunderland, Newcastle, Arsenal, etc countless times he has been the beating heart of this team in attack. Plus he tracks back dilligently and is willing to play deeper and more central to allow other players to shine and help push on.

http://www.espnfc.com.au/blog/espn-fc-united-blog/68/post/2546978/eden-hazard-is-the-premier-league-best-player

Also, Douglas Costa just came from the Ukranian league, Hazard has been proving himself in two better leagues for the last 7 YEARS. Reus is a good goal scoring player, but Hazard is more like a Ribery type player and last season Hazard was better than him. Bale was inconsistent last season, despite his output and not many of his goals were DECISIVE. They were probably 5-0s and 4-0s goals. I'd agree Robben, Neymar, the big 2 are better though.

Delirious rant over, back to study (y)
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I dont particularly like Chelsea, however I rate Hazard higher than Bale, Reus, Neymar and D.Costa. Just because he doesn't score as many goals as them doesn't make him a bad or an overrated player. His style reminds me very much of Ribery, he is the type of a player every team would want, cause he isn't selfish and creates many chances for his team mates.
I'm just kidding he sucks, he is very overrated just sell him already
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Oh I'm sorry, I'll try not to have a personality from now on.
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And, just so you know, I usually default to humor when I realize an actual response would be even more insulting/abrasive; your original comment is a strawman (I've never heard anyone say "Hazard is every bit as good as Messi and Ronaldo", which is what you are insinuating. Or that he is hands down the third best player on the planet, no contest and no support needed. I've definitely heard people say his ball control is on par with those two...because it is. I've also heard people say "if he just improved his end game" he would be on the same level as Messi and Ronaldo, because it's true; if Januzaj could improve his end game to a level comparable to Messi and Ronaldo he too would be on their level...by definition #World'sLongestParentheticalComment) and you make no attempt to justify your claims that those players are better. A compelling argument could be made for either side being better when comparing each with Hazard, so—in the end— it's all subjective and dependent on the criteria an individual uses to assess a footballer's (or specifically a winger's) overall quality.

In the very least, you asked a poor question and provided poor support of your stance.

Now add your history with this forum and your history with the club we follow and you get:

"And Zaha"

Bet you liked me more when I made a simple joke...
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@KGB

http://bit.ly/1uZ0XoL
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Jaun Mata?
Lol this guy [loves daffodils] ...he was a madrid fan then became a chelsea fan after mourinho moved here...then something happened and he is now anti chelsea LOL

Its [daffodil enthusiatists] like this that are killing the site smh
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Lol D.Costa better than Hazard?
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No more name calling please. This was borderline flame bait from the beginning. Lets end this here.
^ You Don't Know Zilch! Let's take it outside.
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For those wondering what GSS means. We want to call the Banter thread "you don't know Zilch!" In honour of Zilch. The Banter thread was his Idea so we want to name it after him.
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Things like this is why I pray to god we face each other in the CL. Try to make it past the first round this time, will you?
Try not to switch clubs (again) if we beat you
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that might be asking too much from a bandwagoner. Next bandwagon stop: Bayern Munchen
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