Chelsea

We have MAZACAR...cant ask for more :D

It can never get better than this for English football, in this season the most incredible season. The 19th of May 2012, FIFA, UEFA, stop, FOOTBALLLL!!!!”

Tyler: “But then it was Drogba, and Drogba, and here, Drogba. The last kick, the winning kick. The man who lives for finals. The bigger the occasion, the better the response.”

Neville: “They’re crying. It was Drogba, it was the angels, it was the heavens, it was the stars, it was the gods, it was everything for Chelsea. This is not anything to do with football. This is more than football, this is spirit. Never giving in, fighting to the end, that English spirit running right the way through this Champions League for Chelsea.”

Tyler: “What a road, what a journey, what a finish.”

I love Neville and Tyler commentary pair...Always prefer highlights with their commentary over those rubbish FOX commentators who are totally biased...and its irritating to watch the games.

BTW - I think it was FIFA..UEFA STUN FOOTBALL!!

Didier Drogba la la la la

Chelsea vs Benfica - European Glory - By Feroze

Feroze at it again,reminiscent of a certain video he did before.

Torres' goal...amazing.

he will not want to be anything lower than 2nd choice. di matteo didnt want him to go on loan this year, that was Lukaku's decision. Lukaku wants to return but if he is told he is not 1st or 2nd choice then he will want a loan spell again.

i reeeeaalllllllllllllllllyyy want him to come back. not because of his abilities but because of what kind of guy he is. he will be a role model and all he wants is to be a chelsea legend. thats just awesome!

We need to give him a chance, we play lots of games each season and tbh he could give Ba and Torres much to think about

yeah but what I fear is, when teams sit very deep he's not going to be able to do much. Look at torres for example, he hasn't scored in the League in months because whenever we play teams the CBs sit deep and mark him, but in Europa league it's more open thus he scored 7 in every stage of the competition.

i just don't want lukaku to come back and shatter his self confidence if he has a hard time, and he'll be rendered to the bench for the whole year

Ya I see what you mean but all in all it could be a risk worth taking..we'll just have to wait and see how it goes if he does stay
He's still young so he should know he has much time for development even if he doesn't make an immediate impact

Yes.

Lol such simplicity ^^ but what does it Mata really!

Lol such simplicity ^^ but what does it Mata really!

nothing new really, you've spent 90+ million for at least 3 or 4 years now. i am amazed you are able to spend so much.

i'm not surprised about the spending. it just confirms we're probably getting a big name striker and probably a DM

@SiF - Care to elaborate what amazes you?

^ffp, no club makes enough money to spend 270 million in three years on transfers alone..but i'm sure you'll avoid sanctions, which i find pretty amazing.

If we bring back loanees such as Lukaku and KDB or Essien perhaps, then we really shouldn't spend more than 50 million..
But one issue we have is that managers aren't giving enough time ( hopefully this changes sooner rather than later ) meaning while they're under pressure to deliver in terms of results and trophies in the speed of light, they tend to give more emphasis to buying superstars in order for them to "guarantee" their immediate success

Once we'll have a stable manager running the club on the long term then such amounts of money won't have to be wasted during every single transfer window

well, that's just my opinion on the matter ^^

@SiF - Eh, tbf we have sold 50m worth of players, and along with the CL prize money, and sponorship, it's not really ludacris as it sounds.

last year was the first time in a while we actually did a lot of transfers. we have not spend £90m+ a year, dont be ridiculous

SIF
. I don't think Chelsea Fc would intentionally do anything that would jeopardise the future of the club. If Chelsea have done anything wrong by ffp, then they'll face the consequences.
You're pretty much suggesting Chelsea have been in the wrong but they have gone unpunished.
I believe the system has more to it than you think. You're not as smart as you think you are

@Raj - External fans are much more knowledgeable than the accountants at chelsea fc.

lol really raj, how smart do i think i am? please do tell. don't be a dumbbass and start assuming s**t that isnt so.

maybe you should re-read what i said, as i am not suggesting anything except that chelsea will spend a lot and find means to make it legal, but there's no question no club makes enough money to be spending those kind of figures 4 straight summers on transfer fees alone.

i don't claim to know the chelsea accounting books, but i do know what the club publishes, such as revenue, and major expenses such as wage bill. there isn't a club on earth that afford to spend such money straight out of pocket for 4 seasons, but i'm sure the chelsea guys will find a way to make it legal via other means.

what amazes me is that ffp is supposed to curb club spending (more specifically, fixed club expenditures such as wage bill), but chelsea are still splurging like nothing's going down. city have had to tone things down, and will make sales this summer to improve their transfer kitty, but chelsea aren't even blinking twice. hard to argue with the results though, two straight european cups is quite impressive.

Your implications, although somewhat indirect, were pretty clear.
I read through your three paragraphs of waffle and have nothing to say, just *sigh*

Maybe Roman can hire few companies that can buy our merchandise for millions of pounds. :p
I think winning the major trophies these couple of years was the big factors that made us able to spend so much. Most importantly RDM's winning CL probably earned us >~50M (20M after the group stage to the final and 20M for 2013 group stage and 10M extra). And it seems like we won another 10M by winning EL.

And for City, it's hurting them because they can't stay in CL long enough not alone not being able to win other trophies except last year. And their wage bills are a lot higher than ours. Silva, Yaya, Tevez, Dzeko, Aguerro they all have 200,000 a week wage or more. The only one who is getting that much at Chelsea is Torres. That's why I'm not so happy with him unless he either accepts pay cut or improves massively.

while it's true winning trophies mean you have more to spend, but the 40 million from the two euro trophies cuts expenditures down to 230, which is still a lot of money for just 3 years, that's 75 million each summer.

and it's not that simple, you can't expect a club to win money and devote all of it to transfers. i don't think inter or barca have spent that much since winning CL? surely not 270 million?

also when you make those transfers, you obviously have to pay wages, agent fees, etc. plus when you consider all the managers you've had in the last three seasons, and then the severance payments and such, the money starts to pile up really quickly, and that's before you start talking about the other major expenses clubs have to take care of the keep the business running.

i think the point i'm trying to make is such spending is not sustainable, and i don't think any club, not even madrid unless they make major sales to soften the blow, makes enough money to maintain such spending over a period as long as 4 years, so i'm a bit stumped as to exactly it all balances out. last season was the first season chelsea made a profit (1.3 million) in the decade since roman took over but to go out and spend another 90+ million last summer and then apparently go for 100million more? i suppose the players on loan must be sold to ease the blow, because there's apparently about 20+ chelsea players out on loan.

i'm not saying you guys are not within ffp, i just don't know see how you could maintain this and still be within ffp moving forward. there has to a point at which the spending slows down, but it doesnt look as if roman is satisfied lol.

And globally Chelsea has a lot more fan base especially in Asia and a lot of us here are in US. Thus, more possible revenue.

@SIF: It really doesn't matter what gibberish you spew about FFP, cast aspersions on the means of the club, bandy figures about, and make ridiculously fictional assumptions. We've been through this discussion before on this forum, and I don't think it makes any sense on your part to make implications of wrongdoing, without a tiny bit of evidence.

What you're doing is blatantly implying underhanded accounting on Chelsea.

^precisely. No point arguing with him though... He just comes back with more crap

gosh you guys get awfully sensitive when it comes to money, now i'm spewing gibberish, am i? i wonder which parts are unintelligible, since the key points have nice round numbers to summarize things...

where's the crap gentlemen?

no, i plead innocence on implying chelsea's wrong doing, but to be more blunt, i think chelsea will explore every avenue to maximize spending because this trend of huge transfer sprees doesn't seem to be slowing down in the slightest, as you (or just myself apparently) would predict, which leaves me wondering what exactly is going on behind the scenes.

i'm not suggesting it's black and white; what i am suggesting is chelsea may have found some gray area or some means of allowing them to spend so much that's unbeknownst to me or the sites i read up on like swissramble, which i find interesting.

we all know you can take losses for the first few years under ffp, but maybe there are loopholes or ways to game the system, because if the endgame is curbing spending, but chelsea feel safe spending so much money, then perhaps they have found some way to circumvent the original intentions. it's all conjecture at this point until the next wave of financial data come out. who knows, maybe chelsea will announce record breaking revenues (which tbf is unlikely, because 3 quarters of financial data have come and gone yet we havent seen anything to indicate this is on the cards). i dont know, but i'll be paying close attention as always.

but i guess since so many of you are getting upset i'll stop here. again i don't see where i'm making any implications of lying/cheating or making false accusations; i think some of you are lazily drawing negative conclusions instead of looking at what i'm actually saying.

and @caplampard, i'm just going by the numbers man. all you are saying about wages and fanbase etc should be reflected in the numbers chelsea publish. it will take 9 months until the next Deloitte money league and swissramble summarizes all the data. only then can i really know for sure how much chelsea made vs what they are spending...but if i extrapolate from current financial figures, the numbers don't necessarily add up to breaking even, etc.

it's easier for me to find that stuff from utd because they publish all that for public viewing since they have been floated on the stock exchange, but for chelsea and other clubs i usually wait for other people to find and analyze the data.

You bought Rooney for >25M almost 8 years ago
You bought RVP who had 1 year left in his contract for 26M

What stopped United from spending so much was the club's debt under Glazer. Otherwise United probably had bought more.

And again we had discussed this before almost 1 year ago, and the evidence showed that we will be safe to spend for transfers as long as we are in CL and winning few trophies on the way.

And if Chelsea haven't become so popular in other countries, it probably had been difficult under FFP but Chelsea has now so many global fan base who can raise $$ in revenue. That's why Chelsea SUPPORT FFP.

It was break-even last year even after all the spendings of such as Torres, Mata, Hazard, Oscar, Marin, Moses, Lukaku, Cahill, Azpi, Ba, KDB. We are moving to younger talents who would cost less than big names in transfer fees and wages.

You could probably find more data on 2012 revenue on google. I don't have it all categorized how much we earned and spent.

http://www.chelseafc.com/news-article/article/2975285/title/chelsea-fc-announces-annual-profit

the 1.4 million profit data does not factor in purchases or sales of anyone bought last summer or this january, but it does factor all the money won from winning champions league. chelsea has spent around 72 million net since that time (buying eden and thorgan hazard, oscar, marin, azpil, wallace, ba, moses; selling meireles and sturridge).

chelsea's overall revenue should be about the same, maybe less, but i don't know the specifics. you guys played a lot of extra cup games this year (like club world cup, europa) so it is hard for me to speculate exactly how much your revenue has changed. it might have even gone up, i really don't know.

Ps we bought rooney for 20 million and rvp for 22.5 million. the bonuses attached from winning the league etc raises the fees retroactively to 27 million for rooney, and 24 million for rvp. arsenal really twisted our arm for rvp; the fee was outrageous, i agree. he shouldn't have gone for more than 12-15 million given his age and injury record, imo.

And all the transfer fees can be set up as annual payments. Let's say for Torres transfer fees, if we assume that we agree to pay Liverpool 50M over 5 year span then it's 10M expense per year. So when we sum all those transfer fees divided by 5 years, it's about 30M-35M a year or even less. And that's the kinda money we can make just by being in CL and few other tournament.

Ticket sales + merchandises + TV rights + multiple sponsorship can cover team's wage, stadium maintenance, and possible compensation fees of sacking managers (I'm not sure if it can be waved in expenditure though)

Well its time to tell you guys the truth where all the money Chelsea is getting from.....Under the Bridge, from a hidden doorway goes a secret passage which leads to the lake of dark waters, ending in a cave guarded by fierce fire breathing Dragon.....the cave has the mysterious treasure,noone knows where it came from....every year at the start of summer on the auspicious night when the moon is at the zenith,the Blue Knights take the perilous journey to this cave to bring some part of the treasure home,facing the dragon on their way.....but jealousy flourished among the circle of witches led by Wenger and Fergie who placed a curse upon the treasure that whoever uses it will not last at Chelsea for more than six months.....Managers came and went,and nobody was able to stay long owing to the curse....seeing our plight an old servant,legend and wellwisher has decided to return to the club to get us rid of the evil curse and put the Witches at their place...

Roman (a Russian oil tycoon) was just a coverup.....

^^ LOL!! Best possible answer!!