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Adebayor: Arsenal’s problem is that today they are just Özil and Sánchez

LMAO. This guy can never stop winding up gooners
lol, the guy is just looking for attention
Arsenal News:

-Jenks could be loaned to Palace if he can agree terms with them. I've seen some online articles saying he's sold. We'll find out the real story soon I suppose.
-Gabriel is our 2nd choice RB, which I'm completely ok with. Debuchy is in limbo...floating around somewhere.
-Bellerin, Coquelin and Gibbs are back and available for sunday.
-Theo still out
-Mertesacker is training now, not with the squad though. Few weeks out still, but was given a contract extension for 1 more year.
-Giroud is back in training.
-Lady Gunners signed American Heather O'Reilly wearing my fav number 17. 3-time Olympic champion and 2015 World cup winner will certainly add some strength to them...although I have never actually watched a full ladies match lol
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http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/10733616/laurent-koscielny-hails-arsenal-boss-arsene-wengers-influence-on-his-career

This interview from Koscielny supports what I've long felt is Wenger's biggest strength and, as a result, also Arsenal's biggest weakness.

Wenger is known to be a very nurturing, paternal figurehead. Players have always come to Arsenal and developed very well, as players and as people. People say Wenger has an eye for spotting talent at young ages and from lower divisions, but perhaps a part of his brilliance that goes largely unnoticed is his ability to help players actually reach their potential.

Very rarely has a player left Arsenal under Wenger's stewardship and developed (as a player) much further than the point at which they left. I find it impressive and a source of pride that many former players cite him as the biggest influence on their careers.

However, I feel there is also a negative consequence for the club as a result. One thing Wenger is certainly not renowned for is the passion and intensity of someone like a Conte or a Klopp. That is not to say he is not passionate about Arsenal or football in general, but rather his demeanour and body language are evidently far more serene.

On the sidelines, if a game is not going well, players sometimes need a charismatic figure bouncing and shouting. Wenger's calmness may suit a player and help bring out the best of them but I feel it does not always benefit the team as a whole.

I feel that the comparable lack of intensity in his style seeps in to the squad and is reflected in some of the lethargic displays we have seen over the years. When Arsenal play with intensity, we can demolish teams. I think back to 3-0 victories over Utd and Chelsea in recent seasons where the hallmark of the display was the speed and urgency in our game.

That urgency is not always present and, when we start slowly, we play poorly. Usually there is a rallying late in the game when it dawns on the players that we're in danger of losing the game. I can see a visible increase in tempo for the last 20 minutes and that is when we sometimes manage to salvage the game, but we do not always succeed. Think Bournemouth 3-3 this season - with the right intesity in our play, we would likely have walked away with 3 points rather than 1.

I do not foresee this scenario changing under Wenger's stewardship. He will, for as long as he is Arsenal manager, produce teams that play a particular brand of football. Whilst it can be aesthetically pleasing when it works, it can be frustratingly predictable when it doesn't. I feel our teams lacks a "killer instinct" for want of a better word. There is a missing ingredient in our recipe and I do not think we will win the title until we find it.

History does not suggest that Arsene will change the recipe. If his contract is extended I will, of course continue to stand behind him and his teams. However, I do not foresee us sustaining the requisite level of intensity in our performances to be crowned champions. For every thumping victory there is a 0-1 loss at home to Southampton round the corner. We will continue to produce great players and great men but I feel we will continue to fall short in the title race.
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I agree, its natural human psychology. The players reflect the attitude of the manager to an extent....its ok though. We have Sanchez the grouch now. He is improving everyone's mentality.... Ox most of all but Theo and Ozil too. Ox is like a brand new guy this season. Has really buckled down.
It's that "human" side of Wenger which he brings to Arsenal that has made me stay as an Arsenal fan over the years. If it's that "human" side in the whirlwind of a game that is as much business as it is sport nowadays, then I will proudly sign up for another 12 years of it.

It's got nothing to do with desires for titles or wins - I want titles and Wenger wants titles as much as anyone - but it's a philosophy of doing things the right way that I really cherish.

In that sense, since I started supporting Arsenal when I was 8 years old (due to the wins of the Invincibles), Wenger has also indirectly but massively formed the philosophy that I carry on in my day-to-day life outside football. As a 22 year old just entering the whirlwind of adult life, it's a philosophy I'm grateful for and one that I hope I never lose no matter how big the pressure for "results" come my way as I get older.

Growth or achievement? Well, obviously strive for both. But if I have to choose one, I pick growth. For achievement on its own will surely come to an end, while growth will always set yourself up for good times even if the road is longer.
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Can't pick one out of Growth and Achievement...Because end of the day Growth is measured by Achievement.

Regarding winning titles the "Right way". I dont think anyone has won it "wrong way" over last 13 years. Every club & manager will have der own philosophy and they get results based on that...United , City ,Chelsea & Leicester have all won titles playing good football scoring plenty of goals.

Philosophy was same even during Invincible season...Only difference was players and the winning mentality in 11 players on the pitch. After that one by one Henry , Viera , Silva , Cole etc started moving out since then squad has never been settled. Because again you guys lost Cesc , Nasri, RVP....Problem is not with Wenger you guys need 11 Alexis in the team period!
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Growth is more than just achievement. Certainly an element, a huge element in sports but for me growth is also about seeing young players develop and become diehard Gunners. It is why Jack might end up as the biggest disappointment of Wenger's time here, not just because he didn't achieve but because he didn't grow into the player he could have been.

There most certainly is a wrong way. I'd never support a team with a manager like Mou. It's fine if you do , plenty of friends who supported him at Chelsea, but he makes me sick with the eye gouging and his general behavior.
Where did Cloudst go?
+1
He is having a break from footytube =)
+1
I miss his OP embeds ;)
+1
He said that when he returns, he will give his mod powers to me, and then clean my shoes


His words, not mine
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^If I was a mod I would have removed shoes and typed in penis.

respond with "thats why you not a mod", if you love Tottenham and hate Arsenal.
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Thats why you not a mod ;D
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Fair enough.
Dang hadee making use of them edit powers
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Hahaha Vaaz!

Sneaky sneaky Hadee318
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His head is in the Cloudst.
Actually his head is up his arse. His ideas are in the cloud though
damn... lol
The next Cristiano Ronaldo, Memphis Depay, is leaving for Lyon
+9
Honestly tho. I wouldn't mind if we took a punt on him.

Tho he scarily seems like Balotelli in his attitude lmao
+2
Makes way for #7 shirt of Griezmann for them tho...
Next Ronaldo was Januzaj...I think Depay was next Hazard.
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the world doesnt need a next hazard, he was supposed to be better than eden. ;)
Turns out he was nothing more than the next Bebe
Right... I wouldn't go that far. but hopefully he pulls a KDB because he's got a lot of talent and potential.
Good luck SIF :)
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yeah Liverpool got screwed over getting Firmino instead of Depay
+3
only liverpool wanted firmino
+1
Oh what could have been Dan :(
+1
IF he pulls a KDb he'll come back to the pl and play for someone else
+2
Remember United fans saying they got the better player in Depay over Firmino.... oh what happy days lol
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Thankfully Firmino still has time to be better than depaldo lol
I was one of the people who was distraught when we missed on depay, so happy firmino turned out to be better (or fulfilled his potential better)
But we did have his image rights...
Sadly Depay image rights did not bring in nearly enough money to even water the pitch at OT so he had to be let go
Here we go. Theo is almost back...soon back to the original 4: Ozil Iwobi Theo and Sanchez. With Giroud and The Ox starring off the bench. This was working before. With Lucas and Welbeck as added fire power, I have confidence in our attack. For me our whole season depends on whether Coq/Ramsey/Elneny/Xhaka can deliver. The original back 5 will get back together soon(perhaps for Burnley even) and they are solid too.
Yeah I'm happy with the forwards and even relatively happy with the defence.

My main concern is the engine room - midfield. Elneny gone for AFCON, Santi injured, Wilshere on loan.


It only leaves Ramsey, Xhaka and Coquelin as recognised central midfielders. The key is to choose the right combinations depending on the opponent and for the guys to play sensibly and not lose their heads.
Coq is injured too
well damn...forgot he hobbled off. Ramsey still does not convince me, sometimes he plays very well but other times he is so frustrating.

We need him and Xhaka to find some consistency and provide both creativity and solidity in the middle of the park.
Wenger said coq and bellerin could be back this week
Xhaka and Ramsey haven't had many games together I still think a xhaka Ramsey Ozil midfield could be very good
^Arseblog has made me a believer in Xhamsey. 2nd half against Swansea(bottom table club) was good... yeah bells and Coq could be back for the next game and Theo could be back for the one after that. If Theo has another setback Lucas has to be promoted. He has done all the right things. It would really be his turn to get a run of games. Regardless we SHOULD win both games. All in all i think we all know Feb 4th is going to be a Big big day for us. 2 seasons ago these same Chelsea players comfortably coasted on a 10 pt lead to the title....I cant bear to witness that again.
When do you think your attack look better - with giroud upfront or with sanchez as a false 9 role?
Attack is definitely more sexy with Sanchez but some defenses.... pack the box making it....hard to penetrate.....you need a really big French coq to blast through sometimes is what I'm saying.
+1
It seems like coqzorla works better with a mobile three in front of them but xhamsey works better with Alexis wide and og up top
Mike Dean demoted from premier league!
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Best Transfer News
+1
better late than never
Suckssss what about man Utd top 4 hopes all dashed... damn you FA
bout time..
Don't worry Vaaz, you still got Michael Oliver.
+3
Unfortunately, not permanent.
+1
http://www.espnfc.com/english-premier-league/story/3040729/mike-dean-assigned-to-championship-after-multiple-refereeing-controversies

Only for one game apparently
..yeah it seems like its a big game and broadly televized.. its probably normal for a PL ref, to take some of the bigger CS games for some extra dough eh?

its probably not even a demotion.
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Forbes: Most valuable clubs

1. Real Madrid (3.4B)
2. FC Barcelona (3.3B)
3. Man Utd (3.1B)
4. Bayern (2.5B)
5. Arsenal (1.9B)


Actually crazy how high up we are considering where we were pre-wenger... People say what Arsene has done, this is one of many many many things. We just need to compete with these guys on the competition basis now (excluding man utd)
+4
So much money going through our club and top 4 is out target each year
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Fans just need to realize that we've come a far way in a cosiderably short period of time... that doesn't mean we settle for mediocrity.
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Top 4 is not mediocrity. If anything, it is above average. Do you really think that Wenger starts every season just aiming for top 4? Why even bother buying Xhaka and Mustafi if there is no ambition. He's gotten top 4 with the likes of Bendtner, Almunia, Denilson in his team, he doesn't really need top class players if he was perfectly happy coming top 4. People need to accept the reality of this league and that there are 5-6 teams competing for the title and only one team gets to win it in the end, which is usually the team with the least amount of setbacks. People can solely blame Wenger for our setbacks and that's their opinion, but you have to concede credit where credit is due. Wenger has had an incredible influence on this club.

I also want to point out that the value of a club does not necessarily represent how much money the club has. We're also on that list even though we haven't won the league or CL in recent times, is because of those consistent top 4 finishes, so don't take them for granted either.
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We were ahead of Arsenal in 2015 and dropped back to 7th last season after missing out on CL. Both City and Chelsea are right behind Arsenal and within touching distance now....It would be interesting to see what happens in next 2-3 years since we recently signed big sponsorship deal with Nike and looks like we will return back to CL next season.
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Valuation factors

1. Facilities - Stadiums, training centers etc
2. Money - UCL Money, Sponsorship deals etc
3. Fans - Projected revenue from fans (match day tickets) etc
4. History - Trophies, awards, etc
5. Current standing

Man City has the most potential to go up and surpass clubs like Chelsea, Arsenal, in the near future "if" they can keep winning trophies.
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^ That is exactly why Roman wants to build bigger stadium..To increase match day revenue and sell naming rights of stadium. City got huge money from Ethiad for naming rights
City own Etihad afaik it's the same company owned by another Arab ruler who is the brother or most probably the same person as City's owner
It's just putting money from one company into another
Will Chelsea fans be OK renaming Stamford bridge to Gazprom stadium? :p
Who are guys supporting this weekend for the City Spurs game? Or are you hoping for a classic draw between the teams?
Draw
+1
Personally I would like city to win. Spuds need to be put back in their place
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City of course. That or a draw would be ok too.
Thought this was the PL page.

My statement is probably still accurate for Arsenal fans though.
I think we need spurs to win so chelsea will have some pressure
City for me.

1) Offers us the chance to go back above the chickens and possibly Liverpool depending on their result.
2) Keeps the "if all these shots went in we'd be top of the league" dabbers down in 6th.

Chelsea have to play Liverpool and us in the next weeks so I don't think we have to rely on Spurs to keep the pressure on them. Besides, if we're relying on Spurs, the title is already in Chelsea's.
Like the Utd Pool game its just gonna be a beauty to watchfor Arsenal fans. No matter what the result. We win!
I want arsenal to win burnley. That's it
+2
I know you were asking Arsenal fans but probably draw for me. Unfortunately, the only way we can move up a place is by Tottenham winning. It's quite frustrating going on a 12 game unbeaten run and not moving up in the table at all haha
+1
what the hell juve?
+1
lol Juventus JJ ... my eyes are hurting.
What's the other J stands for
+3
it's actually a stripe running through a very thick J lol. what a crest...
+2
It's JJuventus😂😂😂😂😂
+2
Its minimal and cool. But they kind of replaced the old logo which is baffling... this one could just be another logo along the sleeves or something.

My guess is that after spending all that Pogback money on Higuan they didnt have much left to pay their graphics designer
@Vaaz- we actually paid them 200K (as per reports). A lot of wise spending has been done at the club recently, but this.....not so much.

Fans and enemies alike despise it, but I don't think the club relents. Agnelli looks like he is determined to carry this project out to its end, bitter or otherwise.
Lol I was just kidding, 200K for that wow. I could have got it dome for $5 over on Fiverr


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