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It's no surprise, this is the Warzone of footytube. 2 opposing sides, arguments all day long. where is the unity?
For all fans, Arsenal, United, Chelsea, Etc.

This is an excerpt from a very good read:

" It is a transfer window that has certainly again highlighted a chasm in the respective philosophies of Wenger and Jose Mourinho. Whereas Wenger so values continuity, Mourinho clearly believes in creative tension. It means that, when there is the possibility to improve, even marginally and by discarding a player with potential, Mourinho will often take it."

- Telegraph

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/11837726/Arsene-Wengers-attitude-to-the-transfer-window-risks-breeding-complacency-at-Arsenal.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69g5KrjZcV4

the perfect number 9.
Here's a list of players (mainly top players) that were available this year for the most part.

Strikers Once Available (2015)

1. Carlos Bacca (veteran)
2. Paolo Dybala (young, choose Juve over us)
3. Lacazette (young)
4. Higuain (overpriced, bottler)
5. Iván Lavezzi (winger/striker)
6. Edison Cavani


These are 'pure strikers' (not center forwards) who were available at some point. I would've went for Carlos Bacca or Dybala. The latter I heard wanted a Juve move to stay in Italy so we did try with him. Bacca would've been ideal because he is pretty good and a proven goal scorer. Everyone else, meh.

DM Once Available (2015)

1. Morgan Schneiderlin (perfect for us)
2. William Carvalho (injured/unproven)
3. Geoffrey Kondogbia
4. Adrian Rabiot
5. Giannelli Imbula (perfect for us)
7. Luiz Gustavo
8. Lars Bender
9. Christoph Kramer
10. Grzegorz Krychowiak (more of a destroyer but distributes well)
11. Victor Wanyama (more of a destroyer but distributes well)

The Italian League clearly acquired the majority of DM's this season. Most of these guys are top players and almost any one of them could've made the cut at Arsenal.
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U also missed the fact at how ridiculous some of their wages are I.e Schneiderlin
gonna have a huge war chest by the winter transfer window, sign pogba and win league,
Sanchez 23 goals, Giroud 17 goals theo 15, ramsey 14, ozil 10, ox 6, wilshere 6 cazorla 6, welbeck 5, coquelin 3, Bellerin 3, Kos 2, Merts 2, Gabriel 2, monreal 1 arteta 1,

thats 116 goals if these players perform at a decent level. I know the Ozil number is high but thats his season goal this year. I would love to see a big, powerful, graceful midfielder like Pogba in this team. If we score 116 goals this year we should win the league.
Chelsea scored 73 last year and won it. Lets get behind these players and give them the confidence to do their best!!
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Are those league goals only? That's a really hard task to get 3 players over 15 goals in the league from the same team and not to mention over 100 goals for one team.
But don't worry, we're just saving up for Messi. Should be able to afford him by the time he's in his 50s
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Be realistic, we are not getting Pogba. His transfer fee is crazy, his wages is even more ridiculous and not a single big name moves in January.
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I don't mind this window. In all probability wenger is in his final stages of his career and my mind tells me he would do everything to end on a high. The man knows his game. The only fact which gives me heart ache is that how much we are banking on Coq and giroud's fitness for the entire season. Nevertheless, I'm happy that I can watch my arsenal without any expectations as I have been doing.
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Not until the end of the season hopefully.... Just until December 31st?
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Doing so 'without expectations' is what I've been doing for quite sometime but not all fans/supporters are like us. The very supporters who pay thousands of dollars for season tickets and buy shirts.
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Okay my turn to express disappointment.
I really like our team, I like most of the players - and such a joy to watch, even on the days we struggle.
Unfortunately even the smallest clubs have so much money now and it's become a spending war (not that we need an excuse to blast capitalism) We are relatively weaker for not adding to our ranks. I consider our squad to be the most talented and cohesive but perhaps weaker than at least 3 or maybe 4 rivals (M.City, M.Utd, Chel, Liv) I am okay with it all, except:
Lack of action or strengthening this season goes against our approach of the past couple of year where we added at least one superstar (I still can't believe we got Ozil & Sanchez!) and then some upgrades like Debuchy, Welbeck, etc. At the end of last season, the general feeling was that we were closer to the top than ever before. Not signing a major player this time is probably a setback.
I have to say that failure of FFP and the ridiculous TV deal has pretty much wiped out every advantage Arsenal tried to build throughout the lean years of stadium building and restricted spending.
Still, we're talented, stylish, and on our day, Beethoven's 9th! Good luck to us all, it will be a roller-coaster of a season.
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I would like you to list the players that were avaliable that we could get, mind you according to critics and pundits we needed a top top striker and DM midfielder to cover for coquelin

The strikers must be top class and good enough for arsenal

DM must be top class and good enough for arsenal

please list them for me
It doesn't feel like a setback to me but more like a temporary stall, or even a false start. I do think we need another couple of bodies but the club has always made its philosophy very clear:

We develop our players from within first and foremost. If the opportunity arises to bolster the team with an external signing of excellent quality, we will do it.

Signings like Ozil and Sanchez definitely fall into that category for me, but if a signing of that calibre is not available then we will look within for a solution.

Call me naive or idealistic but I think that is an admirable approach, even if it means we will struggle to compete with the likes of City, Chelsea, Utd etc
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@ Philosophy, I was thinking about this...

ST

Benzema - not leaving Madrid
Lewandowski - not leaving Bayern
Aubameyang - not leaving BVB (is he that much different to Walcott?)
Higauin - please...£67m release clause and chokes in the big games
Cavani - £50m might not even make PSG blink.
Mandzukic - not really an upgrade to Giroud

= lack of quality strikers available on the market.

DM

Schneiderlin - Maybe we tried, maybe we didn't. If we tried and failed because of wages/player preferred Utd then I can stomach that. If we just didn't try then I'd be pissed. Think he would have been ideal for us.
Krychowiak - staying at Sevilla
Kondogbia - £22m (€35m). Is he THAT much of an upgrade to Coquelin? The fact that he ended up at Inter rather than any of the elite European clubs makes me think nobody else wanted to risk it either.
Carvalho - £37m was the original asking price. Again, the fact that nobody else has moved for him means nobody else sees him as an upgrade (certainly not worth that investment).

= couple more options but evidently we decided that they are either not worth the asking price or not any better than what we already have...
The thing is that history repeats itself.

We lost great players because we were not ever up for the highest level of competition because of our tight budget and Wenger's policies.

We have failed to improve our squad in the least bit. Cech is good (better than Opsina), but I think we all would've been content with Ospina as our #1 this season.

Continuing on. We've failed to improve our competition in needed positions and thus we will doom to failure and underachievement once again. Next thing you know, our star players are going to want to leave again b/c they feel stuck, are unhappy, disappointed. You get the idea...

Love Wenger, but imo this is what's going to happen to us if we aren't constantly pushing to bring in new talents.

Yes, there were very few "upgrades" we could've made this summer. Sign someone for the temporary to keep Giroud on his toes! We all know a contract doesn't mean squat these days. Signing a player on for 5 years doesn't mean we're stuck with him for that time...Wenger is always for the long term it seems forgetting that the short term is the journey to the long.
Centraldefender and Moose you both have summed up my exact feelings. And yes, it is a setback. I mentioned our star players will grow disillusioned by next season and here comes the links with other big teams. Watch the space.

Telegraph summed it up well:

"Arsene Wenger's attitude to the transfer window risks breeding complacency at Arsenal".

If you look at sprinters they normally don't break records unless pushed by their opponents. That's a necessary ingredient in getting rid of complacency. Sprinters will tell you this, they'd rather be pushed to the limits. Same required in football. It's a natural effect so I don't know what everybody is saying how we don't need to strengthen. The best teams in the world strengthens to get rid of complacency.
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I you don't like reading then move on.

Here are two articles. Both have their legitimate reasons behind their grades but I thought it would be interesting to post 2 different views by 2 different sources.

Concerning Bleacher, I don't agree with grade B. No way, but I do agree with a lot of what they're saying.
Yahoo Sports:

We’ll get to the Premier League’s winners and losers from transfer deadline day in a moment. But first, there’s a special class of loser from this window, an undisputed champion of staggering inactivity.

Congratulations Arsenal, you’re finally top of the league.

In an era of unprecedented spending, no other team can lay claim to the level of failure Arsene Wenger has engineered during this transfer window, which has left Arsenal fans fuming more than usual.

The lone first-team signing, prying away goalkeeper Petr Cech from arch rival Chelsea, was a great bit of business and no one’s denying that. Despite his sloppy debut, Cech is already rescuing points for Arsenal and he will continue to bolster the back.

It’s just this squad is so close to challenging for major silverware, so close to giving Manchester City and Chelsea a run in England and maybe even Barcelona and others a run in Europe, that the failure to improve in the transfer market will linger over Arsenal like a storm cloud, ready to start pouring violently the next time Olivier Giroud misses a sitter or the club lacks the spine to grind out an away win against a relegation battler.

It’s fairly obvious that Arsenal still needed to strengthen in the midfield and especially at striker. Not only did a top-class player fail to arrive at either position, but nobody arrived besides Cech, period. Of every team in the top five European leagues (Premier League, La Liga, Bundesliga, Serie A and Ligue 1), only Arsenal didn’t sign an outfield player during the summer window. One club, out of 108.

It’s not just the net spending of a paltry £10.7 million that’s troubling. It’s that every Premier League team did more total business than Arsenal except Norwich City, which many are tabbing for relegation, and Swansea City, whose numbers are a bit skewed because budding star attacker Andre Ayew signed on a free transfer.

So what’s the explanation? It’s certainly not a good look for Wenger, whose frugality in the transfer market has drummed up the vitriol of Arsenal supporters before. Barcelona, which is currently under a transfer ban, signed more players this window than Wenger. At best, he’s stubbornly rooted to his principles, determined to prove wrong the legions of fans and pundits who believed he needed to sign a top-class striker and midfielder, and who were left heads tilted and jaws slacked when he didn’t.

At worst? Well, the term “comical disconnect with the present-day game” comes to mind. Fans are already organizing anti-Wenger rallies and promising to turn the Emirates into a library. Hard to see a huge spike in Arsenal apparel in the near future. Fans don’t want to be caught spending more on the club than their own manager.

WINNERS

Manchester City, Everton, West Ham, Javier Hernandez

LOSERS

De Gea, Manchester United, Mourinho, Spurs, West Brom
Bleacher:

The transfer window is closed, and Arsenal’s squad will remain the same—at least until January. At the end of the transfer period, it seems appropriate to analyse Arsenal’s activity in the market.

It was not the busiest of windows for Arsene Wenger. A year ago, he added five new players to the squad, recruiting Mathieu Debuchy, Alexis Sanchez, David Ospina, Calum Chambers and—on deadline day itself—Danny Welbeck. However, this summer he has signed just one senior player: goalkeeper Petr Cech. There have not been many departures either, with only one player leaving the club for a recognised fee.

In this piece, we'll take a look at Arsenal’s business before attempting to establish an overall grade.



Signings

Cech was the only major arrival at Arsenal this summer. He is undoubtedly a good addition and an upgrade on the Gunners’ previous goalkeepers. Since the departure of Jens Lehmann, Wenger has struggled to identify a credible No. 1. By signing a multiple Premier League champion, he has effectively brought with him a guarantee of quality.

A mooted fee of £10 million seems very reasonable for a player with Cech’s credentials. Even at the age of 33, he still has plenty of years left at the top. The success of Edwin van der Sar, who continued to impress for Manchester United into his 40th year, will inspire Cech to prolong his already remarkable career.

The only other additions to the squad were on the academy side. Based on his performances in the Emirates Cup, Jeff Reine-Adelaide is a tremendous prospect and certainly one to watch. However, it will be some time before his impact is felt on the first team. The best he can hope for this season is the odd cameo in the Capital One Cup.

Despite the astute addition of Cech, most Arsenal fans were hoping for more signings on deadline day. There are two major areas of the squad that could do with reinforcement.

The first is in defensive midfield, where there is no satisfying alternative to the combative Francis Coquelin. Mathieu Flamini appears to have fallen out of favour, while Mikel Arteta is increasingly seen as too frail to thrive in the war zone of the midfield. The acquisition of a tough-tackling ball-winner would not have gone amiss.

Then there’s the attacking situation to consider. Arsenal have struggled for goals in the early part of the season, and there is a lingering suspicion that they need a world-class centre-forward to become true title contenders.

Despite continual speculation about a potential move for Karim Benzema—Thierry Henry even went as far as to tell SkySports that he felt his fellow Frenchman could make Arsenal champions again—no move was forthcoming.

Manchester United’s exorbitant bid to land Anthony Martial shows just how hard it is to unearth an elite striker in today’s market. Wenger could not find any value and so decided to stick with what he has. Olivier Giroud, Theo Walcott and Danny Welbeck will be charged with scoring the goals to keep Arsenal in contention for silverware.

That will frustrate many Arsenal fans. When you look at what the other big clubs in the Premier League have spent this season, Arsenal’s outlay of £10 million looks comparatively meagre. Wenger will point to the collective outlay over the last 12 months, but with their rivals aggressively recruiting new talent, there is a danger Arsenal may not keep pace with their competition.

At the end of each window, fans want to feel their club has done all it can to ensure it has a chance of success in the coming season. Wenger has effectively declared he could not find a defensive midfielder superior to Flamini or a striker of greater calibre than the current trio on his books.

That will be difficult for many supporters to swallow, and there will be an understandable fear that Arsenal’s relative inactivity could come back to bite them later in the season.



Outgoings

Arsenal’s lack of signings is in part explained by the decision to keep most of their squad intact. Lukas Podolski was the only player sold for a fee, and he had already spent half of last season on loan at Inter Milan.

Abou Diaby was another to go, having been released from his contract. It must have been a painful decision for Wenger, who has kept faith with the midfielder through a succession of injury problems. However, in the end he had little choice: It has been some time since Diaby was able to make a regular and reliable contribution to the Arsenal squad.

He has subsequently joined Marseille, and most Arsenal fans are united in wishing him all the best with his new club.

Ryo Miyaichi, another player dogged by injuries, was also allowed to move on a free transfer. Despite the high hopes which were held for him as a youngster, his release felt justifiable and appropriate.

Most of the departures from Arsenal this summer were on loan. The arrival of Cech forced Wojciech Szczesny into a temporary move to Roma, although it would be something of a surprise if he ever returned to north London.

Carl Jenkinson extended his loan deal with West Ham, albeit with an extension to his Arsenal contract as recompense. A trio of young attackers consisting of Yaya Sanogo, Chuba Akpom and Serge Gnabry was also afforded the chance to move elsewhere in search of regular first-team football.

There were a couple of players who surprisingly stayed. Flamini seems to now be surplus to requirements, while it was also a bit of a shock to see Joel Campbell remain with the club. After an unimpressive loan spell with Villarreal, it’s difficult to see how he will contribute to the first team.

The positive side of Arsenal’s outgoing business is that they did not lose any key players. The contracts of Santi Cazorla and Theo Walcott were extended, and Wenger kept the bulk of his squad together.



Conclusion

The addition of Cech is a big step forward for Arsenal. However, it’s merely one step at a time when the Gunners still seem some way short of being true title challengers.

Retaining stability in the squad is a positive, but in order to give himself the best possible chance of lifting the Premier League trophy in May, Wenger ought to have pressed ahead and made further signings. Arsenal may be left ruing their relative inactivity come the end of the season.

Grade: B
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I would like you to list the players that were avaliable that we could get, mind you according to critics and pundits we needed a top top striker and DM midfielder to cover for coquelin

Criteria

The strikers must be top class and good enough for arsenal and avaliable

DM must be top class and good enough for arsenal and avaliable

please list them for me
Strikers Once Available (2015)

1. Carlos Bacca (veteran)
2. Paolo Dybala (young, choose Juve over us)
3. Lacazette (young)
4. Higuain (overpriced, bottler)
5. Iván Lavezzi (winger/striker)
6. Edison Cavani


These are 'pure strikers' (not center forwards) who were available at some point. I would've went for Carlos Bacca or Dybala. The latter I heard wanted a Juve move to stay in Italy so we did try with him. Bacca would've been ideal because he is pretty good and a proven goal scorer. Everyone else, meh.

DM Once Available (2015)

1. Morgan Schneiderlin (perfect for us)
2. William Carvalho (injured/unproven)
3. Geoffrey Kondogbia
4. Adrian Rabiot
5. Giannelli Imbula (perfect for us)
7. Luiz Gustavo
8. Lars Bender
9. Christoph Kramer
10. Grzegorz Krychowiak (more of a destroyer but distributes well)
11. Victor Wanyama (more of a destroyer but distributes well)

The Italian League clearly acquired the majority of DM's this season. Most of these guys are top players and almost any one of them could've made the cut at Arsenal.
I'm over with the transfer window and frustrations. Lets move on, as usual and enjoy football, a lot of new faces in premier league, 50% of them are in United. lmao


Anyways, this weekend about to be boring, I hate international break, boring. lol

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Can't wait for Ozil to rock these out against Stoke

http://www.soccerbible.com/performance/football-boots/2015/09/adidas-ace-151-whitesilver-metallic/
wow those are nice!


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Minute-by-minute report: Aleksandar Mitrovic was dismissed after 16 minutes, then a Fabricio Coloccini own goal ensured all three points went to Arsenal
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Arsène Wenger, the Arsenal manager, has said says rivals can spend much more now that rules surrounding financial fair play have been relaxed
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Michael Oliver was thrust in to the spotlight on Thursday night when attending Arsenal Ladies’ game against Reading
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Arsène Wenger has expressed his disappointment in former professionals questioning current players after Gary Neville’s criticism of Arsenal’s midfield
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Manuel Pellegrini’s men are placed in the toughest group while Manchester United have been handed easier opponents
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The midfielder had a goal incorrectly chalked off in 0-0 draw against Liverpool and said: ‘To look at a video for 20 seconds would maybe have changed the outcome of the game’
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Arsène Wenger rejected Gary Neville’s stinging criticism that his inability to sign ‘players of power’ to propel an Arsenal title challenge was born of arrogance after his side’s goalless draw with Liverpool
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Petr Cech proves he still has it for an Arsenal side lacking muscle and Liverpool show early-season balance but both sides look short of being Premier League title contenders after their goalless draw at the Emirates
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The Arsenal goalkeeper, Petr Cech, made excellent stops from Liverpool’s Philippe Coutinho and Christian Benteke to ensure a goalless draw in their Premier League game
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Minute-by-minute report: A lovely, free-flowing game dominated by Liverpool in the first half and Arsenal in the second. How did it stay goalless? Not sure. Scott Murray was watching.
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