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People here are actually waiting on Southhampton to drop points. You should be really worried because Southhampton this year is better than Liverpool last year who was carried by Suarez. Southhampton this year has a team, a team that's pretty darn good from defense to middle to attacking. They'll also add even more quality to their squad in January. But don't even look at that, because even if Southhampton is suppose to drop out how do you know it's us that'll take their place? It's all possible that Spurs could take their place if they can string some wins, it's also possible that Liverpool can also take their place if they sort themselves out as well. Every dog has a chance.

Yes, injuries can happen but don't fool yourselves waiting for them to fall down.

If we can't beat the little guys like we always did in season's past then that's our bread and butter gone, because that firewall of fast track bullying victories that protected the 'sanctity' of Fourth Place for Arsenal has depleted, vanished, gone.

Until we sort ourselves out we're not smelling 4th place this season.
all im gonna say we were completely capable of wining this game but fuk
We just show up short in these big games, and that's what cost us the title last season. This time, same reason, but different scenario. Only luck for silverware is defending the FA Cup or miraculously win the CL.
Very worried about Koscielny his injury problems are starting to remind me of Vermaelen's
The game for us was nearly over, maybe a draw when Jack went off. The game was certainly over when Tex went off.


The first half was ours, we could have had 3-4 goals. I don't believe Alexis was offside(since he wasn't ahead of the ball), instead Jack shot straight at De Gea, Welbeck missed a free header, which I believe if we had Giroud, could have made it in. Alexis headed straight to De Gea, Welbeck shot straight at De Gea. Everything was fine, its not Wenger's fault, its not the defenders, unfortunately, it's the forwards and midfielders though Arteta played well.

For me, the back line did amazing job keeping Di Maria, Rooney and RVP quiet, as they we're not even on the pitch. Tex barely had to make a save. As someone pointed out on here, he needs to be louder and more commanding(lack of it caused us the game today).

Fantastic way to welcome back Giroud, amazing strike which made it worth watching the game.

Other than that, hope our players get some rest and focus on the next match, which is Dortmund. Heads up gooners!
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No need to panic you guys have enough quality to get top 4 easily, But you need kos back asap. Southampton has to start losing to free up another champions league spot.
Let's be honest..no one actually believes in SoTon finishing in the top 4..If anyone here does, i challenge you to pull out a Mortgage on your house and bet all the money on SoTon making the top 4.

Looking at our fixture list i expect us to struggle in December, games are too congested for my liking, but after that we should be able to put together a consistent streak to see us in the top 4.
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No way in seven hells is Soton really gonna stay up in the top4, and no way can i see United even hang in there even much longer. Same for Newcastle and West Ham.
I think Wengers days are truly numbered...although we played well for much of the game united had one of the weakest lineups i've ever seen and for us to not just go for the long ball game shows how far from ever winning the league we are because atm even ignoring chelsea running away with the league were soo far off Southampton. As soon as fergie retired Arsene should have stepped it up in the window to bring back the old days where we could win the league
+3
Who'd you get to replace Wenger?
I would wait till the end of the season but the the dream would be guardiola but I would like klopp, even martinez or bilic I would prefer. Wenger is too loyal to the players and has to realize that some players are not to the same standard of others. He also forgets we are injury prone year after year
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who is Bilic ??
Even Viera said he does place a lot of trust in his players.
yeah and on the contrast you get fergie who is slated by Roy keane but Fergie will go down as one of the greatest managers ever and keane's opinion is quite irrelevant because Fergie was only focused on results. I guess its just the difference of their characteristics however I just cant see wenger changing at all
Wenger is not leaving at the end of the season..his day's are not numbered. This is just a rough patch like any other..in a month when he get's the results heading back our way all this talk of his time running out will die down again.
Well it might seem Wenger's days are number, there is no way in hell he's getting fire at any point. He'll only leave on his own word.

And as for who replace him, I would love to see Klopp take over the reigns and start a new era at the helm.
Arsene is brainwashing everyone... even the news media...
these fans have it right, check out 'Our Plan B is Our Plan A !'

https://www.youtube.com/user/arsenalfanstv/videos
Frankly today the players missed their chances. The system was fine. What's that hype of blaming Wenger for everything? Makes no sense. The man is no perfect manager but come on there was nothing wrong with Wenger's coaching on this game. Players need to step it up on those occasions and put their chances away.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL7GNzxE-qs&index=14&list=UUBTy8j2cPy6zw68godcE7MQ
Agreed. He made a switch putting Giroud on and that paid off. We missed our chances today and we had another couple of defensive relapses bc we haven't figured that out with our current personnel. So what's new?

I'm quite numb to this result, but I still get pissed about it. No need to point the finger when it was the entire team that let us down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLSPWDpv6q0
I get why people are mad about not getting enough cover in defense during the window...But what did Wenger do wrong today? how is he brainwashing anyone? His absolutely right, players we're so naive they thought they could score right down the middle, instead of placing their shot's..Unless your all saying wenger doesn't emphasize enough on finishing in practice. I don't get how you can criticize the tactic's. We blew them away..they took advantage of the very few chances they had.

TBF what killed us more than anything in that game was the injuries we picked up. The rest of the team failed to recover from the sudden absence of wilshere. It also forced us into wasting subs, thus reducing the impact our subs like Podolski could have had during extra time.. We we're unlucky plain and simple i mean who picks up 2 injuries in one game..
other day i said if we fail to beat man utd we don't deserve top 4...and i stand by that we don't deserve it..doesn't mean we're not going to get it though..this is one race we never lose:p
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yet its so sad... that is our highest goal we look up to... sadly its not 1st in the table or trying to reach the CL final... we only strive to achieve the 3rd, 4th best... so sad...
+3
So just because we lose one game, we don't deserve to be in the top 4? We'll get it and we'll deserve it.
could be worst. you could be tottenham or liverpool
+4
Or we could be you, since we're still going to finish ahead ;)
+4
lol do you mean ahead of QPR? cause that's not very hard to do.
+9
oh go lose to Leicester....
+1
that's rather easy as well. as you can see we paved the way, so just follow our lead.
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Could be worse, like not playing in the Champions League.
+7
Watching claude and chris hudson moan on arsenal fan tv actually improved my mood..lol
+2
Ha Haaa. Can't wait to get home and see it. It's one of the things I usually look forward in watching especially when we get defeated lol.
Moh's rant was epic.

Like a war cry.
+4
Moh should work for Arsenal as a Fan spokesperson or something. He is great.

Claude is just funny, he really does help make me feel better with his style of moaning.
+1
I love Claude! I watch Arsenal fan tv just for this guy, "I've seen more movement in an old folk's home" classic Claude.
The reaction of that fan who looked at moh when he said today we lost to stoke 6:18 PRICELESS!!!


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Premier League Table

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19
11
30
0
2
10
12
1
25
18
5
23
2
1
8
11
2
24
11
13
24
2
3
7
12
3
19
4
15
19
3
4
5
12
4
19
-1
15
14
3
4
5
12
5
18
4
16
20
4
3
5
12
6
18
3
13
16
4
3
5
12
7
17
5
15
20
3
5
4
12
8
17
3
19
22
3
5
4
12
9
15
-2
15
13
5
3
4
12
10
14
-1
15
14
5
2
4
11
11
14
-2
16
14
5
2
4
11
12
13
-4
17
13
5
4
3
12
13
13
-7
19
12
3
7
2
12
14
11
-2
15
13
4
5
2
11
15
11
-11
16
5
6
2
3
11
16
10
-7
18
11
6
4
2
12
17
10
-12
20
8
6
4
2
12
18
9
-6
20
14
6
3
2
11
19
8
-12
23
11
8
2
2
12
20
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UEFA Champions League Table

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12
12
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13
0
0
4
4
1
7
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7
9
1
1
2
4
2
2
-4
9
5
2
2
0
4
3
1
-10
13
3
3
1
0
4
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