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Also, im getting sick of a lot of our fans. We are never f*****g happy with anything. Im starting to get really sick of this shitty negative attitude. Show some f*****g support or f**k off. Arsenal FC owes you nothing. (Not most of us here, i think we are probably the most decent fans Arsenal has. But on youtube and other social media, its really sickening.)
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agree with some of the points but also disagree with some others.

Our fans have to be the most fickle that have ever lived. I can't think of another fanbase so divided amongst themselves, either. Half of us want one thing, the other half want the complete opposite.

Unfortunately the sticking point is controversial and will never be resolved, so I fear that being an Arsenal fan will be a drain on me forever. Half of us believe in the "vision" - Arsene Wenger's philosophy for running a self-sustaining football club, spending within our means and being fiscally responsible.

The other half want us to follow the approach of City and Chelsea and invest heavily. We have a shareholder, looking to gain a majority stake, who is even richer than Abramovic but the club has made the decision not to go down that path. Undoubtedly we could let that happen and spend Usmanov's millions and we'd be able to compete with City/Chelsea when it comes to transfers and wages.

The ironic thing is that half of us are so hypocritical. We lambast Chelsea/City for spending big but are begging the club to do the exact same. We proudly proclaim that "at Arsenal we don't buy superstars, we make them" yet that claim rings hollow if we flush the vision down the toilet and throw money around like confetti at a wedding.

What sickens me though, is that we cannot even give support to the players who are wearing the shirt. Is it Welbeck's fault that 'Fan A' wants Falcao and Cavani? No! So since the lad will be busting his lungs in an Arsenal shirt, maybe we could leave the issue of club management/philosophy on the doorstep and spend our energy supporting the players that we do have on match day?

I've seen alot of Danny Welbeck and what i would say is he is too unselfish.

One of the reasons i like Sturridge so much is he is abit slefish and that is always good in a striker.We have too many players who pass it is.

I want him to show ambition and courage, too many of our players just pass the ball off and we recycle the ball endlessly. Look at Thierry Henry, the man gets the ball and he does it on his own at times. He was always a team player but he was a striker first and foremost.

So come on Danny, you have everything going for you, now be abit selfish and train your shooting after training everyday.

He could be a beast if he just became more ruthless and bullied defenders.
Haha. Well, in that case he fits right in. Have you ever though he was never the main guy at United so he felt obligated to pass it on to his superior? Rooney probably terrified the living daylight out of him lol.

But seriously, I've been saying he's a Giroud replacement. Think about Wels running more into the box on counters simply because of his pace. Giroud would've done that but he's quite slow. The fact that he loves his little one two's makes me even smile more. He'll link right up there with the likes of Sanchez, Ozil and Caz.

Now, think about a much added upgrade in SPEED, which (btw) we lacked last season. Imagine countering against teams!

Speed/trickery on the right (Sanchez/Ox), speed/passer in the middle (Ozil), trickery on the left (Santi). And this is without the ever so speedy Theo, who btw can finish!

Also did I mention Ramsey's potential runs while Danny holds onto the ball???

When Arsene figures how to gel these players you'll be pissing happiness :).
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I wonder what colour happy piss is...............

Seriously though agree with everything you said, it's just been a long time since we have ha a player that is abit arrogant and fiesty on the ball.
How I would line up against City.

Szchesny
Debuchy Kos Mert/Chambers Monreal
Flamini
Sanchez Ramsey Cazorla Ox
Welbeck

Is it or has Mertesacker been of his game lately? Would love if Chambers played but Wenger will probably go with experience on this one.

Also Ozil hasn't been upto par lately so hope Arsene drops him and puts the Ox in his place because you all know the difference he can make with his pace and them wonderful surging runs.

I'd also put Wilshere on the team because of his last performance, deserves a place in the starting line up but then again so does Cazorla because he's also been fantastic recently, so many options there!

Last but not least Welbeck, he's a shoe in for me, Sanogo shouldn't even be on the bench ffs, too raw and inexperienced.
No way you drop Özil. If anything now is the time he will have Sanchez running in behind and Welbeck and Ramsey to link up with.
Firstly, Im not unhappy about the signing of Welbeck, never could imagine him in Arsenal, but nonetheless WELCOM DANNY WELBECK!!

But what i want to know is, why sign Welbeck when we have JC? Are they not similar? Will it stint JC progress? Does AW rate JC highly or does he just praise him in front of the media? I love both players, gotta love DW now that he's with us. He did do well under SAF so lets hope Wenger gets the best out of him as well and i really hope that neither of the 2 will be negatively affected by the transfer.
Giroud's injury made it happen. We needed one front man with epl experience. As for JC it's not that much different than before. He was always going to be in a situation where he would get a chance via injury or less significant games. We have put him in a situation where he has to be magnificent in the cups if he wants league action. Not bad management. We have excellent depth going forward as a result. It's the back that's my concern
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I think it's the case of experience vs potential at the moment. There's 2 ways he could've approached this season after the Giroud news: 1. Buy who/what you can 2. Use the players you've got and rotate them around to see who fills each position well. #2 would've seen a lot of our JC's, Sanogo's, Gnabry's etc some playing time and experience that would've been vital for the near future. However, there would've been a lot of disappointing and frustrating times with that I feel. That's just my 2 cents. Could be way off.
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2 different players. Welbeck has speed. I mean his long strides like Usain Bolt will tell you that it makes a big difference. His long legs also makes it difficult for a defender to nick the ball away. He's a good holdup player and a target man. Here here, you hear me? Say it again, he's a target man. Perfect for us.

Arsene fancied Sanogo because he knew he has that potential but he's just way too young. The one thing Campbell has over Wels is finishing ability.

Bottom line: Wels fits right into our system bro.
yday rennee meulensteen (i dont know how to spell it) was interviewed by jim white i think? and he said DW's strength isn't finishing, he's more into link up play and so on and so on.

i'm imagining he'd be more similar of a giroud type but smaller and faster hence Wenger went for him considering he had Remy and other "cheap" strikers available

while for JC i dont think he's best utilised as a target man, i see him more of a goal scoring winger like alexis or podolski who likes to cut inside.
Sweet, thanks for the replies guys. I can see why Welbeck now, but still cant imagine JC being too happy, especially after having such a good World Cup.
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wrong forum
to be honest im quite happy with this transfer window. new young talented CB, badass RB, alexis f*****g sanchez, ospina and young english forward. i hope that our new british core will somehow emulate the class of 92 from united. that is the dream. rocking the EPL and widely known in the international stage.

COYG!!!!!
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http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/29026398

A lot of ex staff and ex players who were involved with MU are really unhappy with the sale, i wonder what SAF thinks about it, since he loved welbeck during his reign
Welbeck is an academy player, a Mancunian and English, the fact he has been turfed out for a far superior foreign import was always going to lead to hysterical statements like this.

Suggesting we've lost our identity because we've sold Danny Welbeck is absolutely ridiculous, Januzaj, Blackett and Wilson have all been promoted in the last 12 months and are now a part of the senior squad, we've not given up on our youth at all, total nonsense.

I just don't think some sections of the press like the fact that United have signed world class players this summer especially at the cost of far inferior home grown English players, it was supposed to be the summer of doom without CL football but it just plain hasn't been the case, if we stuck by our current squad and no one was culled we would of been accused of no ambition and what not, damned if we do and damned if we don't... We cant win atm.
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i think the big fuss is allowing him to go to another top team, which means he could have stayed here potentially and done well down the road.

you don't have to be a world class star to be useful to the club. danny was an important symbol of the club giving local youth a chance.

people will rightly criticize the decision and i do think the decision was poor and not in line with club traditions. it is fine to get rid of a player who is not good enough but i dont think thats the case here. at 23-24 danny still has room to grow. but if him leaving makes room for wilson and he turns out a massive success i dont think people will complain.

I wish danny luck but of course if he does very well, like predict he may do, i think it reflects horribly on our new management. for me as a fan, danny staying and succeeding means 10x more than buying a superstar. but i am being a bit dramatic here, it's not as if the lad was a guaranteed starter if he had stayed. he made the best move for his career i feel so good luck to him and i hope he does well.
The only comparison is can make of Welbeck is Sturridge, i hope we can get a similar story. Good luck to him. Atleast we got someone more useful than Zigic. We we're never going to loan Falcao for 16m when we could buy a player for that. Just not how we operate(reaks of desperation). The winners of this transfer are the England fans. Having Welbeck, Walcott, Wilshere, Chamberlain, Gibbs even Chambers in the same club will benefit the national team in the long run. The understanding they will have at both levels will be incredible. So well played i guess
Remember how poor of a finished Ramsey was before he turned god mode, Wenger knew he had it in him so he believed him

Imo same situation with Welbeck, he lacks the composure to score the goals, however all he will need is trust to play up front and a lot of game time...

I see him getting at least 15 goals this season in all comps, which would be great for his first season...

Also would be nice for him to kiss the badge when he scores the winner at old Trafford, but that wont happen, YET!! 😜😜😜
so we brought an unproven goal-scorer to a team that desperately needs a goal-scoring machine, hoping that one day he will turn out like ramsey???
Im done wit these experiments!
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Dont support arsenal then... Arsenal are not the club who aim for immediate success, they look to build for the future and target a project that will take patience and hard work...
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And the funny thing is once welbeck starts banging the goals in, ur gonna be licking his ass clean off, so whats the point of hating???
Let the salad tossing begin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Lol. I would clean that up if I were u. Ha, did my suggestion just have a double meaning too?
Another wasted transfer window. We will never have a squad worthy of the Premiership title...
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A business yes but wit the exception of sanchez it was a bad one.

fab > ospina
sagna > debuchy. and can cover cb
vermalen > chambers. he has more experience and was our captain
welbeck is not an upgrade to giroud
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wasted?

have you perhaps forgotten the business that we conducted earlier in the window?

Ospina
Chambers
Debuchy
ALEXIS SANCHEZ!
Welbeck

I know deadline day was a tense and nerve-wracking time but I would hardly call this window wasted.
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Imo we have replaced the CB option from sagna with chambers, and my god this kid is a huge talent. Debuchy is also great as RB so having debuchy and chambers surely are some sort of improvements.
3 replacements and 2 additions in attack. A much upgrade in attack but defensively somewhat the same (though Debuchy is quite good). We lost one CB option in Sags and didn't replace that.

Hayden has to be 4th choice now. Please God no Monreal please.
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We had a very successfull transfer window. Just imagine the speed of Sanchez, Welbeck, Walcott and Chamberlain in front of Ozil, Ramsey, Wilshere, Cazorla and Rosiscky.
Yes we did not buy a CDM. Wenger did not want to be held hostage to the asking price of Carvalho, and rightly so. He might get a CDM in december. I have fingers crossed for Diaby till then. We have 3 CB's and all of them are good. We have 4 full backs and 2 goal keepers.
What Wenger needs to do is to adapt the formation to our players. And to those comparing Manchester United's transfer window; I think they have taking a big gamble. Its not guaranteed they will make it into the top 4. Its not easy for foreign players to adjust in the premier league; and to build team chemistry in limited time with so many new faces. Their wage structure is unhealthy. I think Van Gaal will be under a lot of pressure to perform.
Arsenal fans do disappoint me. We got gem players in Chambers, Sanchez and Debuchy in this window. And a potential Welbeck who can be immense in future.
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actually it's not wasted. although we did not buy proper cover at CDM where we fan rage about but other part AW had make some decent signing.

Welbeck > bendtner

Verm > chambers

sagne = debuchy ( sagna did great job for us and debuchy is yet to show us )

ospina > fab

Only alexis sanchez is a bonus signing. Others are replacement


@African gooner

Debuchy is ahead of Sagna in the French squad.

Chamber has played performed better than Vermaelen these last 2 season

Ospina is considered better than szczesny by many analysts who is ahead of Fabianski so i don't get your logic
@Peterze, he's saying they're replacements not if they're better or not better.
^ Pererz. Because Debuchy is ahead in France doesn't mean much. It really boils down to systematic approach. Sags is better than Debuchy in a few different areas and vice versa.

I think it's a good signing never the less even though Sags is more defensive minded and a better header of the ball. Debuchy is much better in attack though.


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