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Gary Neville:

"Premier League football is witnessing the death of defending as I knew it - and it's not coming back"


This is a very interesting article guys:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/11202272/Premier-League-football-is-witnessing-the-death-of-defending-as-I-knew-it-and-its-not-coming-back.html
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It is GoonerZain, change is inevitable i guess but i love the last part when he says something like football is prolly going back to the 1950's and 60's style and maybe that is how football was intended... pretty deep lol.
Akpom's heroics. I remember somebody asking for this match highlights. Enjoy :)

http://bit.ly/1wk4JgD
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He needs to go out on loan already so the world can see what he's really made off!
+1
second that, he needs more game time! I can't help but feel he would do really well with Southampton. They've got Pelle, Long and an injured Jay-Rod.

They could use the extra body and they play the right style for Akpom to flourish.
+3
Very well taken 2nd from Akpom.
Wenger building a future legend.
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Team news, Wenger quite confident over Gibbs but expects Wilshere to miss. The latter has got a slight knee problem and is a doubt for Tuesdays game but is expected to be fully fit for Swansea.

Walcott not fit to start. If we're winning comfortably might come on in the last 10-15 mins.

Gnabry and Diaby not there yet.
+2
Got fingers, toes and all other appendages crossed that Gibbs is fit!

I'm glad to see we're not rushing Theo back, I would obviously love to see him pick up 15 mins towards the end.
+1
Giroud "three weeks ahead of schedule" too :D
+1
Great news all around, now it's time for the players to step up and be counted. Need convincing strong performances.
+1
Just realised Giroud will be back after the international break, more positive news. Will give us a different outlet and I really have missed him, just hope he's more clinical in front of goal. Massive boost for the team.
+1
What is this Alexis Sanchez unhappy at Arsenal news came from ?? And City to buy Ozil ??
If Wenger allows Ozil to be sold IMO he's basically saying, I give up.
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where u heard that?
Please don't give in to/talk about any news without any direct quotes or reliable source. Because that is what they want you to do. Just read & ignore the news. Don't even talk about it. Humble request.
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For future reference, avoid the Metro, Mirror, the Sun and the daily fail. Thats where that bs story came from.
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Alexis Unhappy

1) http://metro.co.uk/2014/10/29/alexis-sanchez-is-unhappy-at-arsenal-and-has-fallen-out-mesut-ozil-4927593/

2) http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/529285/Alexis-Sanchez-Arsenal-Mesut-Ozil-falling-out

3) http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/407611/Alexis-Sanchez-Arsenal-Mesut-Ozil

Ozil to leave ??

1) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2789920/mesut-ozil-wants-leave-arsenal-january-bayern-munich-line-30million-bid.html

2) http://metro.co.uk/2014/10/12/mesut-ozil-is-unhappy-at-arsenal-and-wants-to-leave-in-january-as-bayern-munich-line-up-30million-bid-4902814/

3) http://www.teamtalk.com/news/2483/9515306/Transfer-news-Mesut-Ozil-reportedly-wants-to-quit-Arsenal-with-Bayern-Munich-lurking

4) http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/404787/Mesut-Ozil-I-want-to-quit-Arsenal

5) http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/527441/Mesut-Ozil-leave-quit-Arsenal-Manchester-City-32m-deal-January



There are plenty more sources that available on internet.

@sandy: Well, there are so many news about it. Of course they are not necessarily true, but when it's too many it make people have question in their mind. If you feel annoyed with it, DON'T EVEN REPLY THE COMMENT. (HUMBLE REQUEST).
+1
I believe this is old news though. At least I've been hearing these stories for a while now.
I personally don't even read these sorts of articles and if I do i take their word for a grain of salt.

that being said though underlying issue is we haven't been performing and these worries of course do arise for players.

I think Ozil may look lazy and cop alot of attention from fans wanting more. But look at the other articles about him HE IS IN A KNEE BRACE AND HE IS GYMING. He clearly is a type of player that needs that attention.

IMO there was no knee injury i think he's taking 6 weeks off to GYM and prepare his body for epl which he hadnt had time for before. But he is showing the fans that he isnt lazing around, give him some credit.

As for Sanchez i think he's enjoying his time.. but i do think him and carzorla don't work well on the pitch together and as a team they argue on the pitch all for the game of football but thats it. The media spin so much bs
+2
This news originated from some Chilean news agency about few days back but I highly doubt it , Sanchez is not that type
@Diontan: Looks like you got offended by my reply earlier. If it is so, Sorry I did not mean it.

My point is look at their source. In this case its a chilean article having a passage which roughly translates to

"Similarly, his stay in the British capital has not been so sweet, it has emerged that is uncomfortable with little support from his colleagues, especially the German Mesut Özil"

'It has emerged' it seems.I need not say more. Its written BS all over it.It is purely click bait. My point is don't incentivise them by sharing or taking about the article increasing the number of clicks. Atleast they will learn over time. It requires Co-operation from fellow football fans which is not gonna happen. But lets try.
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s**t stirring at its finest.
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@ Diontan: Gooner buddy, You might want to start it right away by removing the links from your earlier reply. ;)
I think Diontan has a point in certain respects that it makes people think twice with so many articles being published, even by some 'respected' journal news outlets. It is the snowball effect since newspapers don't want to get left behind in the cold.

However, Sandy is also correct in questioning the validity of the articles as well because newspapers compete with each other on so many levels that they'd publish anything to win buyers...or clickers. Those guys know their internal numbers. I'd say take a look at the original Spider-Man movies and that is exactly what a lot of these newspapers do.

It may not be a lie but it may not be true either. Let's use this as an example, Sanchez's brother tells Chilli source his brother is unhappy with the start of the season. Source from Chilli turns around and says Sanchez's brother claims Sanchez is unhappy at Arsenal. Papers in England turns around and says Sanchez wants to leave!

Each step recreates another degree of lie.
Btw, this entire Ozil nonsense. One article would say Ozil is fed up at Arsenal because he's being played out of position. Another article says Arsene is fed up at Ozil for being too 'lazy' and him not being cutout for the league.

Based on Arsene's track record these are bs stories to the highest level.
always take everything as a joke if it's not coming from Arsenal, bbc, or skysports cause other than that, they're literally a joke for me
GSS, you a moderator now? man how many months i have missed this forum.
One for the memory lane guys before we face burnley :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT-aL--07TA

Also probably one of the best commentators around...Peter drury :D
+2
how dare u be that good??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv8brpKO1i0

Even in training they were so quick...and what can you say about DB10 :D :D

Plus...note what JUDAS does at the end :D pulls down songs pants :P >.
+1
We keep talking about speed but I'd love to find out is Per the slowest player in the league? Surely he is...right?

Maybe Peter Crouch?
+1
Rio
He doesn't even protest his slowness. I think on the latest Unclassic Commentary he makes fun of himself being slow.
Hangaland has the turn of pace of a snail.
When your frontline is Walcott, Sanchez, Welbeck, Ox, not to mention your other players like Bellerin, Gibbs, etc., you could have 4 Mertersacker's in the back and the average speed of your team would probably still be the highest in the league lol

Wenger is one sweaty bastard! :P
+1
As soon as Giroud is back we'll pacewhore up the wings and cross in for a headed goal :D

OP heading stats ftw.
Dem sweaty goals
it's a total pain in the ass playing against arsenal on fifa 15, too much pace abuse.
I think per has done a great job throughout his career of compensating for lack of pace with amazing judgment, positioning, and aerial ability
Do you think there is a positional/personality clash with the likes of

wilshire + ramsey
sanchez + carzorla

Tbh I feel in games in the mid every body wants to be the main man making that killer pass and not enough off the ball runs that are decicisive..

I see these combos mentioned above conflict... what should be done and who should we pick

+2
Good catch! We've been saying for how long now that Ramsey and Jack don't fit together...The issue with Sanchez and Caz is that both spend more time dribbling so more likely to get dispossessed. I can live with Sanchez dribbling more often because at least he's quick enough to get back and work for the ball. Cazorla is also a hard worker but smaller and needs to be our 'Ozil' passing to opened spaces rather than dribbling himself and lose possession where we now have to get back to stem counters. Obviously he's less clinical in his passes but he does have a long range passing ability that I believe is the best on the team.

Now, when Theo gets back on the field I don't know if Cazorla can fully work in the middle, I'd rather Ramsey taking more of the CAM role simply because I think Ramsey has better vision and can pull off more killer passes than Caz. Cazorla would have to be our impact sub on the left or middle but he wouldn't be considered first choice in the middle IMO.
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Yeah man ! COYG 3 wins in a row hopefully and hopefully we can sort this midfield excess lol
You have too many playmakers and not enough goal scorers i always thought ozil Wilshere cazorla were redundant even though you do have the personnel to play more direct with Sanchez Pod (surprised he is not used much) ox and theo when he comes back and santi can also play more direct .

I don't think you need Wilshere you will play better without him IMO
+1
Phenom if we used Podolski too much you'd be wondering where he is on the pitch. He has no presence at all unless it's time to shoot
I think we can get rid of Santi, Podolski, Wilshere, and Flames. I'd have no problem cutting those players tbh. It's true that we have 1 too many creative midfielders and no true left mid/winger player...obviously filling the CDM role with someone stronger in stature than what we're used to these days.
Arteta on Sanchez's work rate, the stone cold killer!!!

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20141029/arteta-alexis-has-knife-in-his-teeth-
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Question: Can Özil be molded into a role similar to what Pires used to have?
+3
That's what he should be aiming for or higher. He's already in the right place to do it once he's fit
Nah.Ozil is not enough of winger to do that job. Ozil is a creator, actually he more of a cog in the wheel, he moves things along and is a very intelligent player.

In my opinion he is not dynamic enough to be that Pires, not explosive or have enough goals in him.

Very dissimilar to Pires in a lot of ways.
+5
^that is true but it's not like he's incapable of improving. He has more pace than Pires and he has excellent vision similar or even more than Pires... prolly he can grab some extra goals too.

I just want to see him improve, he's unique regardless.
+1
Yeah that's true. I'm just looking for some aggression from Ozil, i think he is too timid and kind of blends in the background at times.I don't agree with all that nonsense about work rate and all that, his work rate is fine.

Ozil just needs impose himself, hurt the other team. He should stand out from our midfielders and be that guy that gives the killer pass, or pops up with a goal or two.

So maybe efficiency is what he needs, more aggressive etc.
+2
I think Ozil is more of Iceman like than Pires. He can play shadow striker behind ST in a 4-4-1-1 formation, IMO.
Ozil needs to develop his shooting skills; he is too afraid to take an aim at goal. I guess he was over-reliant on Ronaldo in Madrid. Now, he needs to improve on that.
Pires on the otherhand was very lethal in front of goal. Better than even Cazorla, Nasri, etc. in taking a shot. He scored 16 goals in the invincible season. Players like Henry and Pires always kept the opposition keepers on their toes.
+2
I think ozil has decent finishing he just is not used to being the guy to score. For both Madrid and Germany he has always had finishers he should pass to but at arsenal we want our attacking mids scoring
+1
It would be a joy to see Ozil being aggressive as Pires was tho for real. He's certainly too shy in comparison to the Arsenal legend but i see him getting better... how much better is not even my place to say i just wanna watch him grow more with Gnabry and the Ox as dangerous Arsenal assassins :p
So we're split 50/50 on it ?
I was thinking because if we switch our system to a 4-4-2 or a 4-3-3 Ozil would be a Pires type of midfielder coming from the wing. Imo it could work if he becomes more agressive towards goal. I agree on him being timid, not sure why that is... But it can come with age and hes just under his peak years so theres tons of time to improve!
+1
Ozil doesn't need moulding... he is a different player than Pires...

Ozil should play his own passing game in the CAM role... he is useless in the wings..

When our front line is all firing such as walcott, sanchez... I definately think Ozil will become again the player we totally admired in RM

back in RM you never would question Ozil u would just be in awe of the passes he made to FASST wingers
+4
Pirez sometimes didn't need an outlet to strive. Ozil needs one. Ozil's abilities only works when you have other parts of the machine well oiled and ready to go. He simply needs options. He cannot take the game at the scruff of the kneck and he's certainly not a player who can change the game on his own.
+3


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