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Reflecting on yesterday's win - Seeing this type of win is a positive for us. Pulling 3 pts out of nowhere in an away game is phenomenal! Seeing players who aren't normally on the score sheet is great especially when we had good players to rotate in, one of whom got the game winner. It's not all doom and gloom b/c the WAY we played yesterday wasn't attractive and successful, but a team that didn't give up to the last second snatching a win. Well done GUNNERS!!
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Exactly..it's good to know the players have it in them to pull off a great escape. We're not going to play our fancy football..as long as we can stay in the game and we never give up we can do anything
I remember a few seasons ago, we would've given up after a goal or two, but for the players to have kept going after a goal down was really inspiring.
I would be impressed if this was a rare occurrence but more than half our games follow this pattern.

It's not something to be commended, rather we should be asking why are we not better from the start
Honestly, I'm rarely a pessimist and I like this post but you're giving the players a little too much credit in my opinion.

Chambers and Gibbs combined very well for the equalizer, but what team wouldn't put a cross in in an attempt to score? What team wouldn't capitalize when Anderlect defended so poorly at 1-1?

Sanchez played an incredible role but we were somehow allowed to play with the ball in their box and score a somewhat scrappy winner. Yes we kept going, but the point is always to score if you don't have the lead, so we were just doing what we were supposed to. The only reason it felt great was because we had been so poor for the entire match.

Maybe mentally it will help that we did that in the end.
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http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/15205/9530119/arsenal-lucky-gunners-are-a-million-years-from-being-good-enough-says-paul-merson

Perfect assessment.

Anderlecht took us all the way and they're with all respects a team we should be having no problems against.
We as fans should take things in strides tho' and take things one season at a time. We can't always be comparing our current squads to the invincibles when our own players jumped ship very recently and stalled our progress, s**t like that drains our energy and takes time to get back to that proper level. We have a coach that knows what it takes but we can be more fair and balanced about this situation. Sanchez and Gibbs right now are our biggest inspirations imo and i think Wenger already sees that, let's just see if the squad can rally around them and get the other players on form. We don't always have to be gullible when a pundit says sumn about Arsenal... Wenger is the only one that can make a proper assessment along with players in the current squad as far as i'm concerned but there are also many things that ppl don't highlight that can add value to our campaign. Is it that hard to keep calm and enjoy a season as an Arsenal fan, win or lose?
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Patience my friend. The money will be spent on a DM and/or a CB before we start next season. Maybe in January if the opportunity presents itself.

Everyone knows today's performance wasn't good enough. I think our midfielders have changed styles with Sanchez and Welbeck coming in, and our DMs have severely declined due to age (it came faster than we expected). Giroud has been such a mainstay in our shape that it's taking us a long time not only to integrate the new formation and trying to play Ramsey and Wilshere together (our future core are fit together for once), but also to acclimate to Welbeck's style up front.

The only worry is we won't turn it around quick enough. But I'm almost certain that bringing in a DM right now will only partially solve the problem. We just have to find what's right for us, DM or no DM. The team should be better as a collective because the individuals certainly are great.
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perfect assessment? I don't even see an assessment. He's saying Arsenal were poor, and that they should spend more money. Everyone knows the first thing, and "more money" is the first solution every idiot goes to.

Your basic refrain in every point you make is: "Arsenal is playing badly! Why aren't all of you angry and sad like me?" Guess what dude, we all know Arsenal is playing badly, you don't have access to some special knowledge. So relax, drink a beer maybe and actually try to enjoy the bloody game!
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'Wenger is the only one that can make a proper assessment' These are the little things that always puts my faith down in the fans. It seems like no one sees his wrongs and always assumes he will fix everything. I'm not one bit thinking we will be ever good as the Invincibles, I just want us to be as good as we can be and currently we're underperforming. and Sjsung, don't you think we need both, a CDM and a CB. It's vital to have quality depth to challenge on all fronts. I'm scared at the fact that Wenger said one more signing will complete us, it's obvious we need two.
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https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/football-mertesacker-gunners-best-123054586--sow.html

Here's a 10 times better assessment from a real life and super intelligent gunner :D
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Viper this team is filled with so many internationals..hence we all knew the first half of the season was going to be tough, cause they barely got any proper rest. And for some when they we're finally on vacation they we're hounded by the media(wilshere). Yes there is a need for more cover. But let's not forget no away game in the UCL is an easy game. If the hosts decided to go all the way it doesn't matter who you are your in for a tough night. The reverse fixture should see us showing more dominance..If we can't beat them with ease at home then there is a big worry.

But atm this is still a squad leading the injury table, with many new players. It's going to be a while before we start playing our game. Just have some patience..it's kinda pointless to keep on repeating the same thing over and over when no one can do anything about it now. If we all joined you in your anti Wenger crusade, well what would that solve exactly. You should know by now the AFC board doesn't budge for anyone. Fans have been protesting ticket prices yet no change
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Tanmay and PeterzeGooner both make excellent points. Besides, you can't really expect us to take you seriously by now Viper, you make the same post 3 times a day. It's like the boy who cried wolf, everybody's sick of hearing it, that's why people are being negative towards your opinion. Food for thought.
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I'm not happy but unfortunately have to be content with everything as it goes. The only problem with that is that I've been consistently tempted into being content with the same current situations since I started supporting Arsenal which was in the 2007/08 season.
Read the article Realmcoy posted. Now that's a much better assessment.
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You don't have to be content mate, none of us are, we just choose not to constantly vent on the forums to make way for more lively and positive discussion occasionally. I'm in no way happy with our season so far and hell, my 2nd team Dortmund's doing even bloody worse! :(

But I still watch every game I can cos I want to watch my team. If we lose so be it, I'm not expecting too much till our squad gets up off the injury table, so many starters are out atm.

Interesting assessment. I don't think many of us realise just how taxing it is for an athlete at that level to not get a proper break between seasons. The World Cup screwed us severely, happy though I am for our German Gunners.
lol, ppl seem to have more fun proving Wenger wrong than watching beautiful football or even playing it. Never knew that was entertaining but i still respect anyone's opinion especially arsenal related. Being monotonous is the lowest form of bliss imo but watching a super talented team grow every season with a genius and imperfect coach is also thrilling among other things i like to do... yup, life is good :)
I agree with some that there is nothing we as fans can do to change what is happening and there is no point complaining, it's difficult time for us.

However i wholeheartedly disagree with some of the excuses being laid out, it is exactly the same as previous years, we will say the exact same thing when we lose or draw again.

Nobody is angry or sad because we under performed, people are losing hope simply because they see a pattern, a very long pattern.

It isn't for me to say the reason, to say it's this and that, no but i am intelligent enough to see a pattern and the same deja vu moments every year. That's what hurts the most, it's the complete lack of progress every year.

So our moaning doesn't serve a purpose i agree, but the 'sweep it under the carpet' thing annoys me.

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Lol, remember what happened to city after they lost kompany to injury? They went on this inconsistent run, fans started doubting their title hopes. And we're missing 3/4 players who are integral to our squad (Ozil, Debuachy, Kos and Giroud). Of course we're gonna be inconsistent, but as long as we don't lose our winning mentality (last night's comeback proved that we haven't lost that yet) then we just need to keep supporting these lads and hope for the best.
^fans are just used to what's happening cause our team was knocked of it's perch years ago. What i don't get is why we're quick to point the finger at Wenger before we ask why?? The real culprit is Chelsea, Man city, PSG..all those big money clubs who have bullied everyone in the market for years e.g they forced us away from the french market. They operate by a different set of rules and as a result it hurt us bad. The growth in competition in a land where there are not enough trophies to go around.

But that's a part of life. If your competition was easy to beat they wouldn't really be good rivals. The people we should be hounding are Fifa, make sure they uphold FFP..it's our best chance to get back on top..But if we attack the coach we do ourselves no favors at all
I miss the intensity of this rivalry.
When Fergie got hit with a slice of pizza, classic.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/29712118
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They could make a movie out of Ferguson and Wenger's careers put together. That would be awesome. From 1986 to whenever Wenger chooses to retire.
Fergurson:"The next thing I knew I had pizza all over me. We put food into the away dressing room after every game. Pizza, chicken. Most clubs do it. Arsenal's food was the best...."

I wanna eat some Arsenal food:(
Lukas Podolski:

"When the ball is on my left foot I score 99 per cent of the time. It was a good moment for me."
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finisher by any definition. One cannot knock his clinical performance inside the box.

However outside of the box he isn't particularly effective, especially out wide as a LM/LW.

He needs to be played in a 2-man strike partnership but that means changing our formation/shape, which I don't see happening. We don't have the physical presence in midfield to sacrifice anyone there, we need 3 mids to control possession and create those triangles.

If we had a powerhouse in midfield that could absolve us of the need for an extra body in midfield then we might experiment with two up top as a main formation. Currently we only use two strikers when we're chasing a game..

Would love to see this:

Tex
Debuchy-Merts-Kosc-Gibbs
Walcott-Ramsey-Diaby-Sanchez
Welbeck-Podolski

Giroud/Özil/Jack/Ox/Santi could rotate in and out of the squad as needed.
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Deffy, that line up is still too one dimensional imo... i like when Wenger tweaks things in CM but in attack we don't flow properly if we don't have a player that plays their heart out other than Alexis atm. I wish Rosicky was on a better form along with Santi 'cause i remember when we went to Munich and beat them 2-0... Rosicky and Santi were unstoppable. Ozil is out, Jack, Ramsey and Santi aren't at their best but i'd love to see Ox step up while Gnabry and Theo ease their way back into form. That's prolly when we'll see more goals from our strikers which will help us to go higher than 2nd gear in a swift progression during games which i'm dying to see.
I don't understand why people are mad at Balotelli for the shirt swapping, it was Pepe that asked for the shirt wasn't it? Seems like nothing is going for him atm.
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They need a scapegoat and Balotelli is "that guy". Their defense, more than anything, should be culpable, not Balo.
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Its not only that mate, he didn't even return to the bench to support the team.
I don't think the shirt swapping would have been an issue if he had run more than 50 metres during his time on the pitch.

His application seems to be what pisses off most Liverpool fans. Last season they had Suarez/Sturridge/Sterling pressing high, closing down the space and terrorizing defenders in possession. Now they've got a guy who doesn't seem remotely interested in physical exertion.
@deffy, I can understand that, I really don't like players that don't work hard, helping the team especially in matches like these is very important. Same reason why I keep hatin on a certain player on our team.
We are playing on saturday, not much rest between and plus sunderland would want to forget the horrible loss they had last weekend, the game is going to be difficult, i won't be surprised if we start slow unless wenger rest players and give others with fresh legs a start, namely joel campbell, arteta, poldi, ox, and rosi, and rest the likes of wishere, santi, and welbeck, yes welbeck!, he looked tired and labored, he has being playing too many games(PL,england and cl).
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Yeah Welbeck doesn't look like his used to all the games his been getting. Wenger needs to give JC and Chamberlain a start. Many of our current starters have played so many games, you just fear another injury is not far away...As for the game if we start with a high tempo, instead of our usual slow starts, we could tear them apart...
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Chamberlain was great tonight and so was his goal for the equaliser...
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LOL! I see what you did there
Gibbs did a good job of jumping out of the way of that volley as well.
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Sanchez u mean :P
I thought it was theo
oh theo damn i miss him
If only gibbs had scored that goal against Hull as well.😬
Hey guys we won lol, i am celebrating the win, we haven't won in while, so lets blot out the negative and enjoy our win, phew what a miracle lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGUtvE_zkk8

Youth League : RSC Anderlecht-Arsenal
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i know i really didn't give an explanation to why i'm stepping down as mod and if i'll be commenting from time to time so i'll just say a proper explanation

so as i told matt and the other guys, i feel like i'm holding on to powers that i have no right to be holding on to because it's unfair to people who actually want to do their job properly so i decided to step down. My absence, as many of you know, revolves around my life which has been absolutely a roller coaster for the past few months and i just can't invest all my time in football anymore (as weird as that may sound haha). But I just want to thank everyone on this place for introducing me to such a great footballing community rest assured i'll be back on and off on this site when time permits but atm not happening.

This isn't the end i'll be on during special occasions and stuff but my super long paragraphs and youth write ups have come at an end unfortunately xD

anyways guys don't fret keep the faith COYG :) and good win today :)
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good luck
We all love Cloudst, im sure no one feels unfair. We understand bro, social network is not life.

By the way, this is the only time I took my time to read a super long paragraph on here lol
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There'll be a new mod in a few days time ^^
Badge is becoming a mod isn't he zilch?
Social network definitely is not life.

But football is.
I meant an Arsenal user Xgooner but yeh, Badge will be a mod as well :)
I know who it is!

its not me ;)
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It's amazing, the community here. Cloudst and I, along with a few others here were on here from ages ago, and now we have so many new members too. It's crazy to think I was 13 years old when I started posting on here.

But life doesn't happen on the computer screen. Everyone needs balance, and we definitely understand. I hope you drop in from time to time and keep the positive contributions up. Thanks for everything man.
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