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Am concerned about the likely hood of keeping Walcott in the future. His been promised a chance at CF..he was probably hoping to end up there for country someday. Now that we have Welbeck it put's a dent on his dreams a bit
Wenger needs to tweak our formation. We are predictable in 433. I would like to see us change to 442 in games against tight defences, like the final of FA cup. In 442 everyone fits in.
2014 TRANSFERS

IN

Alexis Sanchez [£34,000,000] from FC Barcelona
Mathieu Deuchy [£10,000,000] from Newcastle United FC
David Ospina [£3,160,000] from OGC Nice
Calum Chambers [£11,000,000] from Southampton FC
Danny Welbeck [£16,000,000] from Manchester United FC

*Ben Sheaf [£280,000] from West Ham United FC
*Georgios Spanoudakis [£236,000] from FC Barcelona
*Kristopher Da Graca [£80,000] from Hisingbacka FC
*Hugo Keto [£55,000] from HJK Helsingin Jalkapalloklubi
*Patrick Roberts [Undisclosed] from Fulham FC
*Elias Chatzitheodoridis [Undisclosed] from Mas Kallitheakos
*Jonatas Centeno [Free Transfer] from Fulham FC

**Glen Kamara [Promoted] from Hale End Academy
**Tafari Moore [Promoted] from Hale End Academy
**Josh Vickers [Promoted] from Hale End Academy

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OUT

Thomas Vermaelen [£13,000,000] to Barcelona FC
Carlos Vela [£12,800,000] to SAD Real Sociedad
Johan Djourou [£2,700,000] to Hamburger SV
Emmanuel Frimpong [Undisclosed] to Barnsley FC
Lukasz Fabianski [Free Transfer] to Swansea City AFC
Bacary Sagna [Free Transfer] to Manchester City FC
Nicklas Bendtner [Free Transfer] to VfL Wolfsburg
Park Chu-Young [Released]

*Thomas Eisfeld [£2,000,000] to Fulham FC
*Ignasi Miquel [£1,500,000] to Norwich City FC
*Chuks Aneke [Free Transfer] to SV Zulte Waregem
*Zak Ansah [Free Transfer] to Charlton Athletic FC
*James Shea [Free Transfer] to AFC Wimbledon
*Zach Fagan [Free Transfer] to Welling United
*Daniel Boateng [Released]
*Alfred Mugabo [Released]
*Leander Siemann [Released]
*Arinse Uade [Released]
*Tarum Dawkins [Released]

Carl Jenkinson [Out on Loan] to West Ham United FC
Ryo Miyaichi [Out on Loan] to FC Twente
*Wellington Silva [Out on Loan] to UD Almeria SAD

Emiliano Viviano [End of Loan] from U.S. Città di Palermo
Kim Källström [End of Loan] from FC Spartak Moscow

* Youth/Reserve
** Scholars
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iddn't realise we bought Patrick Roberts...isn't he supposed to be some Wunderkind!?
Yeah he is a wonderkid, skys the limit for that kid
We can now official boast the strongest British core out of the top 6 clubs:

After Cesc Fabregas, Gael Clichy, Samir Nasri and Robin van Persie all left, Wenger very consciously decided to rebuild his squad around a core of young British players. The thinking, quite simply, was that they were more likely to show loyalty to his project than signings from abroad.
-Telegraph
The below excerpt puts an immediate focus on where Welbeck fits in;

"Another player who is actually better suited out wide – like Walcott, Lukas Podolski and perhaps Alexis Sanchez or Joel Campbell – is not what Arsenal currently need. Their immediate wish is for a player who will stand up and become the focal point of the attack and effectively link all these intricate wingers and midfielders. It is far from certain whether Welbeck can perform this role but it will be fascinating to watch him try."
-Telegraph
Also, im getting sick of a lot of our fans. We are never f*****g happy with anything. Im starting to get really sick of this shitty negative attitude. Show some f*****g support or f**k off. Arsenal FC owes you nothing. (Not most of us here, i think we are probably the most decent fans Arsenal has. But on youtube and other social media, its really sickening.)
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agree with some of the points but also disagree with some others.

Our fans have to be the most fickle that have ever lived. I can't think of another fanbase so divided amongst themselves, either. Half of us want one thing, the other half want the complete opposite.

Unfortunately the sticking point is controversial and will never be resolved, so I fear that being an Arsenal fan will be a drain on me forever. Half of us believe in the "vision" - Arsene Wenger's philosophy for running a self-sustaining football club, spending within our means and being fiscally responsible.

The other half want us to follow the approach of City and Chelsea and invest heavily. We have a shareholder, looking to gain a majority stake, who is even richer than Abramovic but the club has made the decision not to go down that path. Undoubtedly we could let that happen and spend Usmanov's millions and we'd be able to compete with City/Chelsea when it comes to transfers and wages.

The ironic thing is that half of us are so hypocritical. We lambast Chelsea/City for spending big but are begging the club to do the exact same. We proudly proclaim that "at Arsenal we don't buy superstars, we make them" yet that claim rings hollow if we flush the vision down the toilet and throw money around like confetti at a wedding.

What sickens me though, is that we cannot even give support to the players who are wearing the shirt. Is it Welbeck's fault that 'Fan A' wants Falcao and Cavani? No! So since the lad will be busting his lungs in an Arsenal shirt, maybe we could leave the issue of club management/philosophy on the doorstep and spend our energy supporting the players that we do have on match day?

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Exactly Deffy, but i feel like it's more 30-70 in terms of the "Vision" and "Heavy Investment" difference between us fans. But that last paragraph is spot on and is what pushed me to post the rant. Imagine you were Danny Welbeck and you came on to youtube and saw how uninterested and unsatisfied the fans he now plays for are about him. And then we blame him for the (probable) lack of confidence. It's so annoying, and there's not a damn thing that any of the 30% of us can do, besides continue to fight amongst ourselves.
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Yeah I understand where your post came from ;) I count myself among the dwindling, romantic minority that still want us to do what we've been doing.

I can also appreciate where the other side are coming from, though. We, the fans, pay for the tickets, pay for the programmes, the refreshments, the shirts and other merchandise. I can see why they feel short-changed with signings like Andre Santos etc.

However, I have accepted that this is what the club is doing. This is our vision, our way. They (Gazidis and co.) are not going to scrap the project, no matter how much it pains a section of the fanbase. We've endured 10 years so far, it would be a travesty to cut it short now. That would mean the past decade of suffering has all been in vain.

As Zilch has pointed out numerous times (which seems to have fallen on deaf ears), Arsenal has only really been a domestic force in the past 20 years, and most of that success came during Wenger's first 8 years. From the comments I read online, you would think we used to win the UEFA Supercup every other year and that we've shamefully gone down faster than that Irish girl in Magaluf.
This was our first transfer window since our new financial deals came in. The project is only just coming to fruition. I said at the start of last season that we are probably still 2-3 years away from being competitive, and I stay by that. Sanchez is a GREAT signing but it wont be this season that we see his best. Obviously it would have been great to get another CB and a DM but even if we did we would still be a couple of seasons off the level we need to be just because it takes a squad a few years to really get there in terms of chemistry.

Like both of you I support arsenal because our club has an identity, a style of play and a cultural ethos that I agree with. If we just spent squillions of petrodollars we wouldn't be arsenal, we would be just another millionaires plaything, and I wouldn't care.
I've seen alot of Danny Welbeck and what i would say is he is too unselfish.

One of the reasons i like Sturridge so much is he is abit slefish and that is always good in a striker.We have too many players who pass it is.

I want him to show ambition and courage, too many of our players just pass the ball off and we recycle the ball endlessly. Look at Thierry Henry, the man gets the ball and he does it on his own at times. He was always a team player but he was a striker first and foremost.

So come on Danny, you have everything going for you, now be abit selfish and train your shooting after training everyday.

He could be a beast if he just became more ruthless and bullied defenders.
Haha. Well, in that case he fits right in. Have you ever though he was never the main guy at United so he felt obligated to pass it on to his superior? Rooney probably terrified the living daylight out of him lol.

But seriously, I've been saying he's a Giroud replacement. Think about Wels running more into the box on counters simply because of his pace. Giroud would've done that but he's quite slow. The fact that he loves his little one two's makes me even smile more. He'll link right up there with the likes of Sanchez, Ozil and Caz.

Now, think about a much added upgrade in SPEED, which (btw) we lacked last season. Imagine countering against teams!

Speed/trickery on the right (Sanchez/Ox), speed/passer in the middle (Ozil), trickery on the left (Santi). And this is without the ever so speedy Theo, who btw can finish!

Also did I mention Ramsey's potential runs while Danny holds onto the ball???

When Arsene figures how to gel these players you'll be pissing happiness :).
+1
I wonder what colour happy piss is...............

Seriously though agree with everything you said, it's just been a long time since we have ha a player that is abit arrogant and fiesty on the ball.
The red half of London my friend.
How I would line up against City.

Szchesny
Debuchy Kos Mert/Chambers Monreal
Flamini
Sanchez Ramsey Cazorla Ox
Welbeck

Is it or has Mertesacker been of his game lately? Would love if Chambers played but Wenger will probably go with experience on this one.

Also Ozil hasn't been upto par lately so hope Arsene drops him and puts the Ox in his place because you all know the difference he can make with his pace and them wonderful surging runs.

I'd also put Wilshere on the team because of his last performance, deserves a place in the starting line up but then again so does Cazorla because he's also been fantastic recently, so many options there!

Last but not least Welbeck, he's a shoe in for me, Sanogo shouldn't even be on the bench ffs, too raw and inexperienced.
No way you drop Özil. If anything now is the time he will have Sanchez running in behind and Welbeck and Ramsey to link up with.
I haven't been convinced with this 4-1-4-1 and I really don't want to see us use it against City.

I'd rather revert to 4-2-3-1 for this game and keep an extra body back in midfield. City will play 4-2-2-2/4-4-2, and our midfielders are physically not comparable. To counter that we should go for three in midfield like we did in the community shield and control the midfield with numbers and triangular passing.

Tex
Debuchy-Mertesacker-Koscielny-Monreal
Ramsey-Flamini
Chamberlain-Özil-Sanchez
Welbeck

Ox looked like he picked up a knock against Leicester. Depending on fitness, maybe sub Ox out for JC in the second half.
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why drop santi ? he has been superb lately, ozil is the one not really performing.
Firstly, Im not unhappy about the signing of Welbeck, never could imagine him in Arsenal, but nonetheless WELCOM DANNY WELBECK!!

But what i want to know is, why sign Welbeck when we have JC? Are they not similar? Will it stint JC progress? Does AW rate JC highly or does he just praise him in front of the media? I love both players, gotta love DW now that he's with us. He did do well under SAF so lets hope Wenger gets the best out of him as well and i really hope that neither of the 2 will be negatively affected by the transfer.
Giroud's injury made it happen. We needed one front man with epl experience. As for JC it's not that much different than before. He was always going to be in a situation where he would get a chance via injury or less significant games. We have put him in a situation where he has to be magnificent in the cups if he wants league action. Not bad management. We have excellent depth going forward as a result. It's the back that's my concern
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I think it's the case of experience vs potential at the moment. There's 2 ways he could've approached this season after the Giroud news: 1. Buy who/what you can 2. Use the players you've got and rotate them around to see who fills each position well. #2 would've seen a lot of our JC's, Sanogo's, Gnabry's etc some playing time and experience that would've been vital for the near future. However, there would've been a lot of disappointing and frustrating times with that I feel. That's just my 2 cents. Could be way off.
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2 different players. Welbeck has speed. I mean his long strides like Usain Bolt will tell you that it makes a big difference. His long legs also makes it difficult for a defender to nick the ball away. He's a good holdup player and a target man. Here here, you hear me? Say it again, he's a target man. Perfect for us.

Arsene fancied Sanogo because he knew he has that potential but he's just way too young. The one thing Campbell has over Wels is finishing ability.

Bottom line: Wels fits right into our system bro.
yday rennee meulensteen (i dont know how to spell it) was interviewed by jim white i think? and he said DW's strength isn't finishing, he's more into link up play and so on and so on.

i'm imagining he'd be more similar of a giroud type but smaller and faster hence Wenger went for him considering he had Remy and other "cheap" strikers available

while for JC i dont think he's best utilised as a target man, i see him more of a goal scoring winger like alexis or podolski who likes to cut inside.
Sweet, thanks for the replies guys. I can see why Welbeck now, but still cant imagine JC being too happy, especially after having such a good World Cup.
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wrong forum
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to be honest im quite happy with this transfer window. new young talented CB, badass RB, alexis f*****g sanchez, ospina and young english forward. i hope that our new british core will somehow emulate the class of 92 from united. that is the dream. rocking the EPL and widely known in the international stage.

COYG!!!!!
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http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/29026398

A lot of ex staff and ex players who were involved with MU are really unhappy with the sale, i wonder what SAF thinks about it, since he loved welbeck during his reign
Welbeck is an academy player, a Mancunian and English, the fact he has been turfed out for a far superior foreign import was always going to lead to hysterical statements like this.

Suggesting we've lost our identity because we've sold Danny Welbeck is absolutely ridiculous, Januzaj, Blackett and Wilson have all been promoted in the last 12 months and are now a part of the senior squad, we've not given up on our youth at all, total nonsense.

I just don't think some sections of the press like the fact that United have signed world class players this summer especially at the cost of far inferior home grown English players, it was supposed to be the summer of doom without CL football but it just plain hasn't been the case, if we stuck by our current squad and no one was culled we would of been accused of no ambition and what not, damned if we do and damned if we don't... We cant win atm.
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i think the big fuss is allowing him to go to another top team, which means he could have stayed here potentially and done well down the road.

you don't have to be a world class star to be useful to the club. danny was an important symbol of the club giving local youth a chance.

people will rightly criticize the decision and i do think the decision was poor and not in line with club traditions. it is fine to get rid of a player who is not good enough but i dont think thats the case here. at 23-24 danny still has room to grow. but if him leaving makes room for wilson and he turns out a massive success i dont think people will complain.

I wish danny luck but of course if he does very well, like predict he may do, i think it reflects horribly on our new management. for me as a fan, danny staying and succeeding means 10x more than buying a superstar. but i am being a bit dramatic here, it's not as if the lad was a guaranteed starter if he had stayed. he made the best move for his career i feel so good luck to him and i hope he does well.
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