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this is lolz^

http://www.thefa.com/news/england/2014/oct/england-squad-san-marino-estonia

Gibbs got called up along with dat guy, ox and wilshere





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LOL

https://twitter.com/DTguardian/status/517639485736386561/photo/1
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Alexis Sanchez like a boss! :D

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/q82/s526x395/1002379_858074097550500_5340635787138404470_n.jpg?oh=652a66d8a58c4effa1de696617b5379d&oe=54C4E666&__gda__=1422338026_ffd951a21b4f2e40a18192ceef5fa4fd

again so glad we won yesterday after visiting the Emirates Stadium 3 days ago ;)
and still the shorts remained not untouched, respect.
Didn't someone say Sanchez can't play on the left? Haha, you know who you are.
i liked cazorla in midfield, pressing, some recycling, some runs, a controlled performance.....that near goal would have been a nice topping on a good performance
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i know its too early to call but what the hell...

People laughing at us after signing Welback..saying that liverpool gets balo, Utd got falcao and we got lord welback...
Whose laughing now Bi**hes....
Tbf Falcao is still building fitness, when he gets going he will score for fun as he always has done.

Spot on with Balo though, why anyone celebrated that signing I will never know, people saying hes world class and s**t, I'd love to know where they got that idea from.

Welbeck was a far better signing than Balo and was always going to be an asset for his off the ball work rate alone... Just needs consistency, he has scored a few braces for us before now and then he wont score for like 4-5 games, even when played up front, I think with a proper run and more responsibility he will get the goals though.

Consistent finishing is his problem though, in the tougher games where he might get 1 or 2 chances over 90 minutes he has to be more clinical, he has already missed sitters against Spurs and City, its all well and good firing them in against a collapsed Villa side and a s**t Galatarsary team, its the bigger games that Arsenal will need him to perform in because that's where your record needs to improve.
Welbeck was a much stable signing than baloteli..BR can try and hide it with good PR all he wants..we can all see him going crazy on the touchline cause of super mario..lol..If things are not going his way he get's frustrated which is very dangerous..when things are not going Welbecks way he put's in more effort. incredible attitude

All i can say about Falcao is 16m for a loan is complete desperation..why do that when you need an experienced CB you already had two players capable of getting 30 goals in rooney and rvp..
His loan fee was not 16 million, it wasn't even 5 million. There were no CBs available that we wanted other than rojo. Falcao deal was good business imo, low risk on our part for wc striker. Do your hw before you slag others off
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SIF that's what sky sports we're reporting..16m with an option to buy if i recall what's your source..forgive me if i don't follow your team as much as you do..and pointing out the need to fill other departments is not slagging anyone off..i've clearly accepted his balotelli argument
I read £16m somewhere as well which I guess includes his salary and loan fees for the season and that figure makes more sense than say £5m which cant even cover his salary at Monaco. Just my opinion .
ur both correct the loan fee was £6m, however his wages etc, will take it to around £16-£17 million at the end of the season, which for a WC striker is great deal imo

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/sep/01/radamel-falcao-manchester-united-season-long-loan-monaco
Xgooner Now makes more sense i thought they blew £16m just to get him for one season..and that the salary package was different cause other newspapers we're reporting that United would pay up to 24m due to the salary
No the 14-16m figures are used wrong. When anyone talk about a player cost they rarely bring in the wages so why do it only for high earner? Why not everyone?

Including wages balo and welbeck would cost about 9-10m per year at 100k wages + 1/4 of the transfer fee. Then even 14-16m for falcao is a steal.

@blu He had one major injury unlike RVP who had continuous injury problems and at 28 he is at his peak so 250k is entirely justified for a wc striker.
Loan fee was around £5-6m with an option to buy at the end of the season (for roughly £40-45m). Including wages, bonuses etc. the season long loan for Falcao would'v cost United somewhere around the £14m mark (as reported by Sky)

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12691/9452780/transfer-news-colombia-striker-radamel-falcao-joins-manchester-united-on-loan

Now, the loan deal itself is an absolute steal, only downside is his age and injury problems, for one season tho he'll more than do the job once he gets going. Falcao's wages are what 250,000?
Yeah SiF is right, the loan fee was not £16 million nor was it £5 million.

We have to cover the entirety of his wages, he was making 9 million Euros a year net at Monaco, given there is no income tax in Monaco along with a 50% tax band that exists for high earners in the UK he will cost us 18 million euros in wages for the duration of his loan fee, that's £14 million GBP (roughly) or around £270k GBP a week.

Its still a staggering cost but he is slowly getting back to where he was 12 months ago and once he does he will make that look a steal, should we exercise the option to purchase next summer I imagine there will be a compromise made on his wages to alleviate the high purchase cost which will be around 44 million Euros or about £35 million.

@PeterzeGooner

No it isn't desperation at all, very few teams would refuse him if they're able to accommodate ofc.

He is in the top three 9's in the world along with Suarez and Ibra IMO, I wouldn't want to even try to place him amongst those two but he is right up there, when he was in La Liga there was a genuine debate as to whether he should be discussed alongside Messi and Ronaldo, even people like Guardiola was saying it.

Had Arsenal got Falcao we would all probably be talking about Arsenal as league contenders, he is that good, he hasn't got out of first gear yet, give him time.

As for not signing a CB... sigh... I wish people would stop talking as if transfers are relative to one another, the signing of Falcao did NOT impact on Uniteds attempts to sign a right sided CB which LVG has already confirmed he wanted in the summer but if the right player isn't available then why waste the money on someone you don't really want...

Look at Balo at Liverpool, doesn't fit their style of play and Rogers wasn't even keen given comments made earlier in the summer.
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This line up did well against gala, not sure it is ideal line up against chelsea, i wish wenger makes a change up, i would like to see coq move to rb, pair chambers with flamini, either ozil/carzola/wishere play in the middle, ox and sanchez to play out wide, welbeck on top, on the bench should be ozil/carzola/wishere, hayden, chuba (for welbeck), rosicky(for ox), and diaby(for flamini).
So far i haven't been impressed with our experienced CB's..Honestly your 4-0 up..why would you let anyone have a 1 on 1 with your keeper...those two need to get their act together..they gave szczesny no choice last night tbf
absolute horseshit it was szczesny fault, he's an idiot like that we've seen it from time and again. Don't blame GK errors on defenders. it was a simple grab where the defenders let the ball run through and you stay on your feet why dive into it? he needs to stop doing that ffs XD
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Only thing he did wrong was dive in..if he pulled it off your praising him right now..Any other top side in the world would never allow their GK to be 1 on 1 when they have the game in the bag...that stuff doesn't happen to chelsea, Man city, Bayern..it only happens here
If you watched the game carefully, BFG and Kos played well throughout. They kept the ball moving at the back with neat and tidy passing. Kos in particular made a few decent tackles/interceptions.

Szczesny is to be blamed for the red card and the goal. It was an unnecessary challenge. He could have stayed on his line. Partial blame should also go to Flamini who backed off and not close down the initial pass. If you analyse the play again, you will realise that the defenders were holding a good line. This is when you need your CMs to press and close down passers from midfield. Flamini and Cazorla didnt do that resulting in the penalty.

Our defence was solid for most periods of the game. Gibbs was sharp and Chambers was excellent. Please rewatch the highlights before making such comments.
We have to agree to disagree i blame the cbs, they let the attacker get behind and left szczesny in no mans land, even arsene said it was not szczesny fault.
What gk stay's on their line when 1 on 1 seriously..his supposed to come out and make himself big..he felt that he could have gotten the ball cause he has quick legs..Koscielny was slightly ahead of merts resulting in the gap that was exploited..take a look again you'll see my point
A goalkeeper that is sensible and able to weigh the pros and cons of such a tackle will not come off his line in that situation. 4-0 up with 30 mins to go. That's stupid and clearly unnecessary, making the team defend with 10 men when we could have comfortably see the game off. (4-1 with 11 men maybe even more 5-1 or 6-1)

If more blood had rushed to his legs instead of his head, he may have a chance of getting to the ball. It was a poor judgement/gamble. Period.

There is always gonna be a gap between CBs when they are flat and holding a line. Hence partial blame goes to Flamini. (see above argument)
But we are 4-0 up. Its not like the whole match depended on it. Surely Szczesny's mistake to go for it. But I think its not going to affect us too much. It kind of played into our hands to have our goal keepers rotate between Premier League & Champions League. Now that Szczesny has done away with his routine blunder(which he repeats every 15-20 matches), We can expect him to be more focused for next 10-15 matches. :D
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I'd just like to end this argument by asking a few simple questions so you lot can get my POV. Let's say szczesny stay's on his feet and we concede..is it still his fault?..the defense allowed a 1 on 1 scenario which should never happen when your 4-0 up which is all am trying to say..why is no one picking up that run?? Why always us?

Look at the gap between Koscielny and Mertesacker where the ball is played through, they're not holding a good line like you say..Koscielny is back tracking trying get in position to block the passing channel which he fails miserably..gibbs is confused whether to pick up the run or leave it to the CB's..why is all that ignored? It almost looks like Koscielny and gibbs are trying to play him offside and Mertesacker doesn't have a clue what's up..His so focused on his man, his just not communicating with his partners
Am not saying szczesny is not at fault..shouldn't do that when the game is won..but am saying your all pointing the finger right at him when his not alone..

and werewolf.. Gk is supposed to come off his line when one on one..and he has two choices..either to make himself big or try and win the ball..Gk's are not supposed to stay in line when one on one that's just giving the goal away.
If we really want to be analytical, the midfield gave the ball away carelessly and since we are a high line defending team with 1 fast and 1 slow CB, Koscielny was caught too high up the pitch and that allowed the thru ball. 4-0 or not, Tex has to try and save it but he should've stayed on his feet, most keepers would know how easy it is for a striker to milk the red card at that point.

What makes it more annoying is the fact that Felipe Melo should've been sent to the showers earlier for nearly breaking Alexis' leg in half.
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Honestly, Danny Welbeck has all the qualities you would expect of a CF. Pace, Power, Strength, Ball retention, Good link up play, Dribbling, Flicks that open up defense and his under rated Finishing. Defensively, he helps in pressing for the ball & tracks back well. To top it off he has an excellent Work-rate.

You sir will have an outstanding career.Thanks to Man United & Wenger, it is going to be with Arsenal.I am excited!! Not gonna finish without saying this.

Welbz is dat guy!!!
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I, 4-1, wholeheartedly agree.

Also, you don't have to thank United, they have no need for a striker who scores in the Champions League :P
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In between Welbeck and Giroud we're going to enjoy having quality CF's for years to come..Benny boy..it could have been you:p
I'll thank united, they played welbz on the wings for years which is exactly what wenger would have done to prepare him to move to the center eventually anyways. I really wanna know what was said between fergie and wenger. Hopefully something reminiscent of what wenger said to fergie about rvp "he's even better than you think he is"
Oh Bluff... Thankyou for the laugh, that was quite sneaky mate :D
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welbeck's motm card on fifa 15 is going to be OP as S**T!!!
dat pace, dat shooting, dat price...


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