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Guys, Seriously pull your s**t together. Are we gonna bitch and moan about every freaking game we don't win. We played like ass and got a point at Anfield. FFS even United fans were saying there were happy with a point at Villa yesterday. Liverpool are a bit above the ranks of Villa last time I checked.

There's so much up and down with Arsenal fans this year...are you all hungover from our great first half of the season last year?
We have tiny flippin players compared to the entire league. And we wonder why can't defend set pieces??? Your own eyes are deceiving you. Suppose it's Wenger's fault we can't jump higher?

Sure you can compensate that for being ruthless and challenge harder, but we'd get more stupid fouls and cards.
Sum up the game in 3 words

Mid table performance.
Mid December performance
I m perfectly fine to give AW another season if someone here can tell what the bloody hell about the team has improved in the last 18-20 months? Any aspects?
- Has our top 4 record improved?
- Has our record against top 4 team improved?
- Has our defense improved?
- Have we really competed for the title?
- Do we score more goals?
- Has our CL record improved?
What the bloody hell?
Your luck in the CL has improved!Am not sure about the rest however.
+1
we won 2 cups and we were in title challenge till feb
Just got back home, was out all day. I just watched the key points of the game, and my one question is this: Why the f**k did Per not jump for that ball? Why? The only reason you wouldn't jump was if you got a call from your mate behind you, and clearly that didn't happen because no one in their right mind would call for that ball. I don't care if you're going to get decapitated by your opponents swinging boot, if you can get it you go for it, considering how much money you get paid. It all starts with this zonal garbage, I can't f*****g understand it.

Borini, what a class act, kicking our players all over the place, ripping Santi's shirt, and then spitting at our bench when he goes off. Top man.

Oh, and there's nothing like a player rolling around injured for 10 minutes and then scoring, WITH HIS f*****g HEAD, in the added time he created. Couldn't have written it myself.

In the long run, 2 points dropped hurts them a lot more.
+1
Spitting? Never heard anything about that after the match.
They showed it on the Matchday Live thing I was watching, it's clear. He runs past our bench and spits in front of our guys. I think it went unnoticed by most but it's there.
Nah, he wasn't spitting at your bench, he was having a go at the official who gave him the first yellow card. With Skrtel, it was a head injury, he literally had staples in his head and if you watched the replay it took a long time to stop the bleeding, so of course he is going to go down. It was just lucky it was in the back of his head as he used the front to score. It was 6 minutes that he was on the ground + 3 minutes for all the substitions so I thought it was pretty legit 10 minutes.
+2
That's all bs tbh. Wenger got his subs wrong bringing Giroud off. What does Campbell give us when we are DEFENDING a lead? He's the second tallest and best in the air and we are horse s**t at defending set pieces. I would've had him as the lone striker and have Welbeck's ass drop back and defend.
Do you remember "spend some f*****g money"? Pepperidge farm remembers. How ironic that now we've finally started buying big, yet it's our worst season in many years...
Yeah, we spent a lot, but not where it was most needed. So we can basicly say that nothing's really changed in this regard. We didn't buy a top-class striker 5 seasons ago, nor 4, 3, 2, 1 season ago. And this one is no different.
I'm really wondering what we need to do in order to finally start to matter in the title race. Sack Wenger? Sack the medical staff? The Board? Start spending like crazy, like (Mod Edit: please refrain from using derogitory terms for your rivals) "United" did this season? Their defence is also bad (not as bad as ours though), but at least they make up for that with their firepower.
Another wasted season, and the reason is probably the same - we didn't buy good enough players. Or maybe there's something more?
I don't even know what I'm trying to say. I guess I just wanted to rant a bit, I'm really frustrated to see that nothing ever changes in this club and I'm losing the last remains of hope that it ever will...
+1
We still need a world class striker - Sanogo, Giroud, Welbeck, Campbell are all not good enough to compete for the title. We need a proper DMF and a backup CB. Injury prone players that are wasting resources like wheelchair Wilshere should just be sold.
+1
The striking dept. was hardly a problem today. Arsenal got run over in the midfield and had couple defensive mistakes.
Let's jus say defensively we're s**t, attacking wise I'm not bothered at all its the inept dealings of set pieces that pisses me off. It's like we don't train for this, beyond frustrating as it happens all the time.
+2
I think the spending did have a positive impact obviously. I find it hard to believe that we're yet to play anything remotely close to our strongest side. Up front we're yet to see ozil, walcott sanchez together. giroud has been out for number of months. Luckily the depth going forward "kept us in" so far. However, it's obvious to everyone that the depth in the back of the field is just nonexistent. Haven't had people playing their respective roles in defence for even several consecutive games. Last year our defence was solid, having the back 4 fit is a major part of that. There is definite quality there, we've seen it last year.

Bring a DM, CB cover and keep the team fit and I'm confident from January on it will be a different level of performance.
I agree with Tomi, the striking dept. was not the problem today and Giroud and Welbeck on a good day are very effective. You guys need a true DM who can sit right above the defense with strength, great ability to read the game and great tackling. Then a CB and a strong one, Schar has been linked with you guys and his a possible signing in the January and if possible recall Jenkinson from West Ham then slowly things will start to go your way.
+1
Yes you've spent big but like Moyes buying Mata, Wenger has gone for flair players instead of players that upgrade your weakest positions. A true defensive midfielder and a solid CB were needed and Wenger went out after Welbeck and Sanchez. Not that these guys were bad decisions but its clear that once Arsenal lose the ball they have very little help from midfield to recover.

I'm not sure if Wenger has it in him to think defensively or has his scouts out there looking for the best CDM's. Or is it that they always lose out to teams that will compete and bid high and that Wenger won't get into bidding wars? I don't know but it seems you guys understand this more than I do and somethings got to change to fix Arsenal's shortcommings.


Maybe Wenger micro-manages things too much? Maybe he needs to have some more experienced staff working beside him. It seems to me he's had quite a monopoly on all of the teams opperations. And if you as fans are seeing cracks in the damn I don't see any other way to change things than sacking Wenger, if you want it to change.
+3
C61 mate Chelsea have stayed fit and the first time a starting mid was out, you lost. Neither of our pivot today are starters, we're missing Arteta, Ramsey, Koscielny, Walcott, Ozil in a game vs Lpool at Anfield. It's no wonder we couldn't keep the ball.
Yeah, potentially our first 3 pivot choices have all been out - Arteta, Wilshere, Ramsey. On top of that Rosicky is out as well and Koscielny in defense.
@Zilch

The reason Matic's loss was so big is because he plays every single minute. He's played the most minutes in all competition in the EPL.

We've never had to deal with losing him for a match. It's a bit different from your situation. Had Matic been rotating in and out of the team, it would not be such a loss.

Plus, it was at St. James's Park. We never win at Newcastle.
Spending 35m on Sanchez was a fantastic move. But wait, is that the only position we need strengthen? Heck no, out of all people Wenger know we need a solid man in the middle of the park, yet we've been with no solid man to protect our back 4 for many years. What's worse is the fact that we don't even have a complete back 4. Buying debuchy is also a great move but replacements does not count. Buying a kid, which turned out another good move, Chambers. But out of all people, you expect Wenger to understand we can't go a full season with 2 and half CB. Yet again, we have failed to strengthened all of the position that we need, instead we strengthened a position and rely on players to fill in.
It's entirely relevant, starting eleven consistency is key to any team and Chelsea have had it. I'm not going to whine about injuries, bad luck, lack of depth etc but to ignore it is just silly. None of today's midfield trio is a starter so of course we struggled to play our possession-based style of football.

To put into terms you can relate to, we've missed both Costa(Giroud) and Fabregas(Ozil) for most or the season, Cahill(Koscielny) has been injured for weeks at a time, Ivanovic(Debuchy) has been injured long term, Azpilicueta(Gibbs) has been injured several times as has Luis(Monreal). Matic(Arteta) has been injured constantly, both Oscar(Ramsey) and Ramires(Wilshere) have had ongoing injuries and the only players who've been consistently injury free are Hazard(Sanchez) and Terry(Mertesacker). You've also been using Schwarzer(Martinez) in goal quite often and last of all Willian(Walcott) hasn't played at all.

Do you think you'd still be consistent? Don't bother telling me how Matic is better than Arteta, Terry vs Mertesacker etc cos I'd you do you've completely missed the point I'm making. Congrats to Chelsea players for staying fit, I'm happy for you.
+1
So we have played Tottenham, City, Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea and Everton and we got 4 points out of a possible 18. 3 games at home, and we didn't win a single one. Wow.

From the Chelsea page, Arsenal have collected a meagre 28 points out of 102 points against Premier League big boys over last 5 years...They have won just 7 of 34 games, losing 20.
+6
The problem is that Arsenal love to walk the ball into the net. That pretty much sums up our playstyle in every game and every situation. Most of the time it's just: exchange 570 passes in front of the box, some few key passes in the box, and then walk it into the goal.
Maybe that's the reason Wenger hates Poldi - because this guy doesn't f**k around and just shoots whenever he's got a chance. That's totally against Arsene's philosophy of football ;)
We very rarely take long shots. We do cross, but there's usually no one to receive those crosses (or one our player vs 4 defenders). We're terrible at set pieces. I can't even remember when was the last time I saw a successful Arsenal counter attack. Ironicaly, we often slow those down to a point when they change into positional attack.
We never adapt, never change our playstyle. And that obviously can't work against better teams. They know how we play, adjust to it and shut us down. Like Liverpool did today. And then we're just children in the fog. We try the same thing over and over again hoping this time it will work. And, by the way, did I ever tell you about the definition of insanity?
+2
The one time where we should have actually passed at the end when Cazorla had the ball we shoot. Monreal was outside and Cazorla easily could've rolled the ball to him and we probably would've scored and won the game.
Monreal isn't a great finisher though. I thought Santi got a good shot on target at the end.

Either way, today we weren't afraid to shoot. There was no 100-pass build-up play today. Problem was in defense for the 2nd goal, and in midfield for the 1st half.
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Can someone tell me whats the point of having a 6'6 defender if he's afraid of heading the ball? Inexcusable from Merts. Even though chambers was Skrtel's mark, Skrtel himself went for the ball towrds Mert's trajectory. He should have taken control instead of Chambers running all the way to the center of the box.

Its not the first time he's done this either...hesitating and cowering to head the ball despite being thetallest EPL player

Stoke's 3rd goal, and Hulls 2nd goal. Disgusting from a so called Leader
+4
We're not a one man team, because we didnt play together and communicate amongst each other caused the goal. Instead of blaming a player, lets look at the overall performance and the points that we picked up, because at the end that's all that matters, not just a player that's not marking properly. Though I believe we really need to work on marking during set piece, we're really bad at it. Plus, I believe we were playing zone instead of man to man marking.
+1
for me the moment they got that red. I felt we should have tried to force them back again. Deflate them by attacking with serious intent and just killed the game off with the second. It wasn't a bad choice to go all out defense. In fact if Merts managed to put Skirtel off we would all be saying what an excellent second half display despite the poor passing. But i really wish we decided to change our mentality and surprise them in the end.
+1
am I the only one who was like, oh giroud is off and we will try to defend our lead, and hell yeah we will f**k this thing up hard.? am I?
+3
I thought we could use Giroud's height to defend on corners. He needs to get fit for 90 soon! The physical presence he has is vital for our team of little guys
All I want for Christmas is Theo
Our defense is s**t. Our midfield (especially DM) is weak. I won't even start on morale and mentality. The absence of Theo is the least of our worries.
+3


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