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LOOOOOOOL SANTI CAZORLA!!
That's a penalty all day, he missed the man completely
Alright, 2 dropped points for our 4th place competitors :D
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Cloudst all smiles today huh? Did you just step out of the delorean with doc and marty?
Just happy it's the weekend had a long week at work haha
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Chambers might be going on loan toooooooooooooooooo




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As Roma xD
There goes our fan base in Italy
Cech, Bellerin, Holding, Koscielny, Monreal, Xhaka, Cazorla, Ozil, Walcott, Ox, Alexis
Cazorla Xhaka Ozil


FFS IM GONNA MISS THE GAME!!! DAMMIT CLOUDST UR FAULT
I'm supposed to go work on a guy's irrigation system...thought we played on sunday. I'm making up some bs excuse to stay home and watch lol love being my own boss.
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bad business..
still getting to it. just 2 hrs later. not bad business...just a great fan.
You should work on your scheduling..hell work on a sunday if you have to..that way you will never miss an afc game
tbh scheduling is my biggest challenge. But yes, Arsenal should be written down on the schedule first and then to work around that lol

AZ - it's raining too, so no biggie
just playing, as long as you get to it then no complaints..
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Cech
Bellerin holding Kos Nacho
Xhaka santi
Ozil
Ox Giroud Alexis


That should do it !!! Wouldn't mind Elneny for xhaka but I think he gets the nod because of his physicality
Wenger already told that giroud is not 100%.
our front might look like:
Ozil
Theo-Alexis-Ox
sh!t
I'd personally like to see:

Cech
Bellerin Holding Koscielny Monreal
Coquelin Xhaka
Walcott Cazorla Sanchez
Akpom

Subs: Ospina, Gibbs, Debuchy, Elneny, Chamberlain, Ozil, Giroud
I wouldn't mind Akpom in either, but ox in place of theo
akpom played yesterday, no chance he will play today.
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No disrespect to Mourinho and Pep but I dont think they are capable pf building a team from scratch like Sir Alex or Arsene. Even though Arsene havent wpn major trophy for long time he did build great team with little money.
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Not in this day and age. FFP is a joke and Wenger is not the right manager for this decade of cash-is-king.
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I'd say it depends. In the PL? Maybe, it's a matter of trust and time given to them. I think if either Arsene or Sir Alex were managing lets say Southampton and had enough time they'd build the team up significantly, get top 4 and probably a few trophies here and there. Whether they would be able to keep their star players after success I don't know. Both managers know how to develop young talent and club infrastructure, a category maybe pep could be subscribed too, definitely not mourinho.

Also, I think "Wenger is not the right manager for this decade of cash-is-king" is a wrong statement. Maybe "Arsenal is not the right club for Wenger in this environment" would be more true for his own good. Give Wenger PSG and I bet he would up there in CL finals.
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Hey Sian dude that's insulting to those managers..Jose won league titles and champions league with Porto, a team built on nothing. Even before Porto he showed what a good manager he was at União de Leiria.

As for Pep, you cannot question his achievements at Barcelona, he created a blue print that even Wenger himself has tried to copy. He built a team around Rikjard's team, with youth players Pedro, Busquet..who costed nothing.

You say Wenger is capable of building teams, yh well, his teams upto 2004 were build upon teams from old Arsenal managers. Seaman, Keowon, Tony Adams, Bergkamp, etc were all not his signings he found them at Arsenal but he build teams around them.

In fact, Wenger's teams build from scratch were from 2005 onward and we've seen what those teams have achieved.

So lets not insult other managers to make ourselves feel better..those manager have proved that they are better than our manager.

Plus lets not compare Wenger with Fergie dude! that disrespect to Fergie. Fergie was a winner from day one till the end! He rebuilt winning teams time and time again.

His record against Wenger in the last 14 years is clear prove of the gap in class between the two managers.


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Timid why are you completely ignoring the financial restrictions wenger has had and the limitless funds the rest have had
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if Arsene Wenger had unlimited amount of money like what mou had during his years, he'll win titles.

same goes with mou, if he had only limited amount of budget + at the same time building a new stadium, his team would've been in the middle.

but of course that's something most people ignore due to their BLIND hatred towards Wenger
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Timid, the Invincibles were built by Wenger, unless you think he inherited

Lehmann, Lauren, Campbell, Vieira, Petit, Ljungberg, Pires, Henry et al.

+5
So Peter and Hayley did Mou have unlimited funds to spend at Porto??

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Since we consider a player successful if he can perform every year, we should consider managers that can perform very well through out their careers. yeah mou won with porto but that was something like Leicester winning the PL. it happened once. Mou spend extravagantly after that and was not necessary successful since he left all teams in bad terms.
I appreciate managers who can work with what they have, and certainly mou is not one of them. though I kind of hate the fact that wenger can not address the team's problem. We need new manager and ideas but I truly believe that mou will never be as respected and successful as wenger.
Dude he won uefa cup and Champion league within two years..Rafa did it at Valencia and Liverpool..so clearly its not a one-off.

Mou won the Champions league again with Inter Milan, tell me how he spent alot of money at Inter milan??

From what I can remember Inter were not even fancied to win the Champions league that year.

Guys just show some respect where it's due!!
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I didn't discredit mou for his times at porto, you were the one who ignored the facts about financial restrictions on both sides. If you want to be fair to the men, be fair to the men and see everything in perspective and not just judge everything by titles.

I think most importantly, dont ignore the fact, do you think mou will win titles or even be in top 4 year after year with financial restrictions and building a new stadium, and a decade long debt to pay them off without support from the riches as well as Wenger did?

if you think he's that great, why would he, even though having so much money available, left or sacked by his club only after 3-5 years?

his total spending since 2004 is nearing £900m. just think about it for a moment, nearing £1billion.

my point being, you have pure BLIND hatred towards Wenger, no matter how well he did you WILL ALWAYS find something to blame.
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he spent £154m at inter.

exactly, show some respect where it's due, certainly not towards wenger eh?
+2
Haha you have pure BLIND love for Arsene, your arguements are clear proof of that. You will always find a way to defend him. I will admit I am a pessimist and I don't follow BLINDLY..my eyes are very open in my following.

Dude Arsenal are a team who participate in competitions to win. Nobody enters a competition to finish third or fourth to be happy, everybody wants to win, you compete to win..ask Wenger himself, even he aims to win but he just comes up short cos others are better.

I support Wenger and he is our manager but I cannot just stand and hear other managers be BLINDLY trashed as if our managers is God's gift. Wenger has been sacked before..its not as if he's only ever managed at Arsenal.

You say he left or sacked I can only think of Chelsea and Real who fired him, whereas at all the other clubs they begged him to stay but he left cos he is ambitious. Lol at Inter players cried when he left, it was all over TV. He wants to win.

You want to criticise Jose, well at Inter he won the champions league with a bunch of free transfers, swap deals and 15 million Sneider.

The respect that people in the footballing world have for Jose means that if there were top players out there available on a free transfer and they had to choose between Wenger or Jose, who do you think they would choose??
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I'm saying winning with a team like porto was only one time.
did he have consistency?NO.
And as you said, Rafa won CL with pool. Di matteo also won CL with chelsea. But I don't think they can be considered successful.
I'm also not saying mou is s**t. I'm just saying that wenger is better in terms of consistency and mou could never achieve what arsene achieved if he was in his place.
And as for attitude, he is one of the worst I saw so no respect to him there.
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Spidermax Jose won it with INTER on a similar budget to WENGER'S that year.

How can you claim Wenger is consistency when he hasn't won ANY European cups in his whole career??? Mou is consistency cos he's won it twice with two un-fancied teams. If he had won it once then we might claim it was luck.

Rafa won the EUFA cup and Champions league in two consecutive years - meaning two years following EACH OTHER! - TWO years successful in European is success to me.

The consistency comment I will leave upto you to interpret as you want. But in my eyes one is consistent in finishing in top 4 with the odd cup wins, whereas the other is consistently winning with the odd failing to win. You decide which of the two means success to you.

The attitude comment is a personal trait, and I don't know Jose personally so i'd rather not comment on that. At the end, of the day they are managers of their clubs and therefore judged by their results not personal attitude.
+2
Idk if you actually saw the CL campaign when Porto won the cup...They should have lost in quarter finals against United. They drew Deportivo in the semis and somehow ended up facing Monaco in the finals. I know the draws were not in their hands but there was so much diving and play acting involved, it was a disgrace. It wasn't like Porto was a minnow team like Leicester anyway. They were a top Portuguese team with an excellent youth academy. The Inter team that won him a CL was also STACKED. They had players like Eto'o, Millito, Sneijder, Zanetti, Lucio, Maicon, Chivu, Cambiasso most of them in their primes. Sure, he gets results but Mourinho is the definition of anti football to me. The only time I saw his team actually play attractive football was maybe his first year of the Chelsea comeback when he won the league last summer.

Pep and Mourinho are both obviously great managers, but they know their strengths and stick to it. There is no way Mourinho will do a project like Porto again. It was a stepping stone for him and he probably knows he can't repeat it. Ferguson and Wenger are actually totally comparable. When those 2 had even teams, they went toe to toe in the league for years. I feel like it's only Arsenal fans who take the level of consistency we've had for the last 2 decades for granted. We have been punching above our weights for quite some time now. Maybe it's hard for fans to accept it after the invincibles era.

You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villian. Wenger has actually stuck around long enough to have become the villain, while those two know when to move on. Maybe that was Wenger's fault after all. He should have left Arsenal after 2005. He would have definitely won a CL for a team like Bayern or Real. I guess we would never know.
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Nowayout much respect to your views bro or girl haha

Yh we can all make arguments about the style in which a title is won but all that matters is that a title is won at the end of the day. You get decisions going your way in some games but that's part of football, you make your luck! History remembers those who win, not those who lost.

To use the term anti football is unfair cos they used their legs to score those goals, and great tactics to counter attack. Football takes many forms, and people are free to chose whatever form they like.

You say, yh oh well he did it with top teams from their respective leagues i.e Inter and Porto, but I argue that Arsene had an even better team when he won his two European cups at Porto..why didn't Arsene win it with all those STAKED players he had at his disposal?

You say he wouldn't do another project like Porto again. Well lets think about that for a second..Porto is one of the top teams in the Portuguese league..so whenever he takes a job at a top team in a specific league..he is taking a project similar to Porto.

Punching above our weight is an understatement cos Arsenal was a top premier league team before Arsene and will remain to be so after he leaves. We had 10 league titles before he came, so to say we are punching above our weight is an understatement to the status of Arsenal football in English football.

Arsene is TOTALLY comparable with Fergie when they had similar teams. I presume you are talking of the 8 year period between 1996 when Arsene Joined to 2005 when he won the FA cup trophy. Well in those periods Fergie won 5 league titles to Arsene's 3 plus a Champions league and carling cups which Arsene never won.

Even if you wanna go further back Fergie won the old Eufa and super cup with Aberdeen whereas Arsene didn't with Monaco.

Other managers have won greater trophies with similar or lesser teams.
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first of all i think guardiola, mourinho, wenger and sir alex were and are all fantastic managers. maybe i`m biased here but for me sir alex is still one step above all others considering his achievements and especially his consistency.
nonetheless wenger is probably one of the best managers ever. if he had left arsenal after the invincibles season he may have won the champions league somewhere else. on the other side, maybe arsenal would have won the champions league without him in the last 10-12 years.
same can be said about sir alex. maybe united would have won even more champions league trophies if sir alex wouldnt have decided to stay after his intitial retirement plans. its so many ifs and whens.

nowayout i dont agree with you on one point. you say the only time you saw mourinhos teams play attractive football was in his second chelsea spell. well it depends what you see as attractive football. if for you 80% possession is the only way of attractive football, then you may be right. i dont agree with that because i find it boring. i`m glad there are different systems in football, i also think that athletico madrid plays attractive football in a way. world class counter attack football is amazing to watch and exciting. mourinho set new goal records with chelsea/inter and real madrid if i`m not mistaken.
yeah it wasnt possession based football but you cant deny the fact that scoring like 110goals in a season (with real), whether possession based or counter attacking is not attractive.
i do agree with you on the thing with acting and diving. i hate that and i didnt like the el classico`s between mourinho and guardiola. two of the best teams in the world just embarassed themselves for a couple of years against each other. i hope this will not happen at united.
but calling mourinho the definition of anti football is not right in my opinions. i could say the same about guardiola, as i think that his teams are often boring to watch and simply one sided football. but i dont call it anti football, if you got this system and you`re succesfull its up to your opponents to find a way to beat you. if they dont find a way, hats off to you as you are clearly the best in this period of time until someone finds a solution, thats not anti football.

i got huge respect for wenger and for what he has done at arsenal over the last 20 years. i understand his critics and if i would be an arsenal fan, i would probably say that it is time to go and start a new era. my opinion is that wenger is stagnating, although you have to consider that his clubs situation is more difficult then others. so seeing it that way, i`m not sure if stagnating is the right word, maybe better would be consistency.

all in all i believe mourinho and guardiola are the more succesfull managers, compared to wenger. thats a clear fact if you looks at their trophies. BUT wenger decided to stay at one club, mou and guardiola collected their trophies with different clubs.

but in the end most people will remember what you have won. wenger is a legend at arsenal who i got huge respect for, maybe he would have won more trophies with other clubs or arsenal with different managers, we`ll never know. but i do think that wenger set a good base for the next manager after he retires from arsenal.

we can critisize all this managers, and rightly so as all of them made mistakes. but we should never forget that we also should respect them all for what they gave their respective clubs and football as a whole during their time in the game.
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They are all successful managers in their own ways. I don't see the point in saying who was better because everyone values different things. To some, Gerrard will be one of the most respectable and successful players while for others it might be someone like Beckham who moved around more.

For me, I think Ferguson is at the top because he has the longevity, the titles, and the reputation. Wenger and Mourinho are like two halves of Ferguson.

Pep is still difficult to judge for me because while it is true that he brought a distinct style of play, his program at Barca was heavily built by Rikjaard already and his program at Bayern was also already well in place before his arrival. He's always had a GSW-like team at his disposal. So perhaps he's very good at what he does but there's only a few teams in the world I could confidently say Pep would be a good fit for. ManCity will be really interesting to see if he can manage a team that isn't the overwhelming favorite.
i am so happy that we are signing a striker after so many years....i hope Perez will positively contribute to the success of the team and he will be contender for the starting role.........i am so excited....this season also i had a feeling that we are not signing a striker but , Hats off to AW ,you have done a good job you knew that fans desperately cried for a striker and you have brought in someone.. i know that he is not Lacazzete or Higuain or Vardy..but you never know...but he could be the next big thing.
Lol bro I don't get it why people keep on saying we haven't bought a striker in years even Robbie on arsenal fan tv said that.
Why everyone keeps on forgetting about dat guy danny welback. He was a striker last time I checked.

+4
And, of course, Yaya Sanogo. And Park Chu-young. Oh, and Takuma Asano.
Matuidi is said to be extending his contract at PSG. lol didn't see that one coming, he was just closes to Juventus now this.
once the owner wants to keep a player he won't let him go. Its kinda why psg players over stay their welcome. I don't think Matuidi will see much game time regardless.


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