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I know why we so shiit.. i figured it all out!! Cause we have Puma kits!!! Ever since we switched to them, we went downhill!!! Hahaha
They're too tight and restrictive! Bring back the parachutes!
Ali dives again, and refs falls for it!! Muahaha what a disgrace.. against league 1 side

Or should i say he tricked the referee
Foul on alli imo. Enough contact. Helluva response though from crochdale.
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He was looking for it, and went down like suck of shiit.. he threw himself down
Yeah Im right there with you, but still enough contact. Defender's fault for sticking a leg out and missing the ball. These guys are just paving their way to be known as cheats and divers if they keep this up, which I'm completely ok with.
Its the thing that Vardy loves to do. The player looks for contact and once felt, falls like a sack of potatoes
I definitely wasn’t crying when Giroud scored


I definitely don’t miss him

I definitely don’t wanna crush welbeck in pieces and send him to Chelsea and kidnap Giroud back
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We have an off form Morata which itself is depressing no need to add to that
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It's so depressing that it posted twice
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http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/11252806/hector-bellerin-criticises-arsenalfantv-for-feeding-off-clubs-failures

Not lying, views be up at match days
They probably receive higher viewing numbers on game days we lose due to other teams'fans looking for rants from arsenal fans. I wouldn't go as far as to say it's built for feeding off of arsenal's failures.
That was a bit wrong to say by Bellerin tbh, profiting of Arsenal's failures, also questioning them as fans, just very wrong to do.. Im actually watching it when we win, to get some positive vibe, not watching it when we lose..
At the same time some of the regulars use AFTV to rant even after wins and frequently go after individual players. In DT's response he even admits that he only goes viral because of his over the top reactions.

I also think its hard to deny that if everything was great and we were winning and competing regularly the last few years, AFTV wouldn't have had the same kind of success.

I did think Robbie had a very class response.
its hard to say, the reason they have spike in views when we lose is cause fans from other teams go watch it for laughs.. i think they would be alright even without crisis we had..
What are you basing that on?

And DT and the other screamers on there would have nothing to scream about if there was no crisis. I think they'll sustain now if things get better but I don't think they would have nearly the same level of success without the initial crisis to give them their fame in the first place.

Also isn't the whole point that Robbie and Bellerin made is that everyone is entitled to their opinion, including Bellerin.
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It's obviously a hit bc you see just about all the top teams either have our are trying to have something similar to aftv. Win or lose there is always something to improve on whether it's clean sheets, better tactics, better subs, better signings, management etc...
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Ozil2021 nothing to do with opinion, questioning them as the real fans is absolutely wrong.. and as Shaymoose17 there is always something to talk about, personally i would enjoy watching those opinions instead of a rant.
I don't understand your point about why questioning their fandom is such a sin by Bellerin. They question his commitment to the team, his dedication and his ability constantly, and once he questions them once, he suddenly "absolutely wrong." Fans think they are entitled to do and say anything they want and players should just sit there and take it. I disagree with that.

You're not adressing the point, the reason they blew up is because of the screaming, DT himself said thats is why he goes viral. In my opinion DT and the other screamers would rather have himself go viral for a big rant after a bad loss than a calm reaction after a straight forward win. At the very least when we lose, a part of the people of AFTV are happy because they know they'll get another big video out there.

Shay I agree things can be improved, but praising the team is so rare from the regulars on AFTV. They chose to focus on the negatives, in order to get more views.
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its not true, they do praise as well.. not the point though.. the point is, questioning about being a real fan

they being going to the games for years, some of them were fans before Bellerin was even born.. Like for example Robbie being fan for 35 years, and Bellerin question him as a fan?? yes you absolutely cannot question them as "being a real fans" (in Bellerin case), im not saying what they saying is always right, but you cannot question the love for the club.. Going to every game, ffs even just watch them on TV to take the time from your life to watch them, even when we play like dogshit its a commitment and love for the club.. If someone will ever question my love for this club, I will go mad.. Yes i get pissed off when we lose, yes I might whine and critique players performances, but I do that because I goddamn love this club.. So when he questioned those fans (whoever it might be) to be as real fans, I just put myself as that fan and which is why I say its wrong what he said.. Yes they making money from the channel (robbie mainly i imagine) so what? he saw the opportunity to create a channel, cause simply there was none before. It blew up and he is still a fan but with more cash in his pocket.
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Ozil, there really is not much to praise about our performances the past few years. The batterings we've taken shows how far down the totem pole we are in Europe, the embarrassments we receive from Watford and crystal palace show how unprepared we are, the record of how we fare against our top rivals reflect how far we have to go to actually be taken serious in legitimately winning another epl title. This is the broad scope of things. While I truly believe in praising three little things the bad outweigh them so heavily.

The rants and screaming stem from the love and support they have for this club. It's frustration coming to the surface that's been suppressed from dealing with poor performances over an extended time. You have to understand those aftv guys travel to damn near every single game to support their team. Bellerin is questioning them as real fans? They base their entire work and home life around the arsenal schedule. They're as real as it gets in my opinion. Are they professionals in front of a camera? No. Do they say things they wish they could've reworded or not said? Yes.

I think the main guy on aftv that's nonsense is troopz in the way he tries to make himself a "personality". Dt used to get so pissed and now that he's another arsenal fan gone numb he's able to collectively get his point over the line. There's no way these guys are happy with a loss so their ratings get boosted. I think it's unfair to pin that against them. Questioning each other as fans and true fans really is a waste of time. What actually gets accomplished through this?
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and come back to what you said about "Fans think they are entitled to do and say anything they want and players should just sit there and take it."

YES fans are entitled to say shiit, cause they pay shiit tons of money and commit a lot of their time for them to play. And NO players shouldnt just sit there and take it, they should take it and work harder, learn from their mistakes and prove those fans why they should be playing for their beloved club.. and in Bellerin case he was pretty shiit for the past year or so. which is why he gets so much stick at the moment
I don’t see a problem with what Bellerin said. I don’t think he even said a word bad to what AFTV is. He even agrees that it’s a great platform, what he doesn’t like is certain individuals (LOOK AT LEEGUNNER, Or DT) who have other motives than just the football...

LeeGunner never actually went to games before this season, but suddenly goes every weeek now. He even has tweets in the past saying he isn’t even a proper fan

DT before AFTV game along hadn’t gone to a game in years. Now since AFTV is their, hes at every home and away game...


Fact is what Bellerin said is correct. Certain individuals are their for fame, that’s why after AFTV they have made their own merchandise and channels. And the fact that they are more bothered about this topic than the other questions that Bellerin answered says it all. The AFTV lot are self obsessed ...


On YouTube the whole interview is their with Bellerin and the Oxford union. Amazing how intelligent Bellerin is considering he’s only 22
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"They should take it and work harder, learn from their mistakes and probe those fans why they should be playing for their beloved club."

He isn't learning anything from the incoherent ramblings of these fame driven idiots. He is listening to the manager and coaching staff, which he specifically said.

You aren't giving Bellerin any credit as a human who is entitled to be annoyed with people shitting on him constantly, when in truth hes been playing poorly partially because he has been going back and forth between wing back and full back and we are generally a s**t defensive team.

Fans are fickle anyway, Monreal is a god now but was the next andre santos for a year and a half. He didn't get better because DT screamed about what s**t he and wenger were, he got better by playing some CB and learning from Bould.
ye i dont like certain individuals on the channel like leegunner, i disagree with the shiit they say.. just questining them as real fans is not sitting right with me.. his actual whole interview was great, i watched it which was like 45min.. just the only thing the questining about being real fan i didnt like..

Ozil2021 i didnt mean to take tips advices from fans... i meant take criticism, shut up and work harder.. i highly doubt coaches teaching him how to give away penalties and pass poorly..
oo come on Bellerin was extremely shiit, i can understand if he makes mistakes positionaly because he was switching between positions.. but he couldnt make simple passes, giving away penalties.
Just watched the fill q and a. 1 little sentence in a 45 minute interview and we debate this in this long of a thread is ridiculous. I feel ashamed. Face palm.
I know right shay hahaha
This is almost worse than int'l break man
Good result today lads, well done.
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I can't tell if this is trolling or not lol expected victory and honestly should've been a higher scoreline imo. I really hated the other teams approach. Gonna play a Christmas tree formation and just pack it in, at home? Never gonna get anything out of the tie that way.
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Best teams play in this competition

Competition of the elite
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Also ozil is doing walcott. playing world class before contract extension and now like crap :D
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he is not that bad, but he is giving some balls so cheaply.
So his only poco loco🎼🎵🎶
Quite surprised Wenger didn't start Kolasinac. Hows the guy supposed to find his form when he doesn't even get a chance against these viking farmers. Even playing him at CB would've been ok
Wenger logic..just have to accept it
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Not surprised at all. This is the knockout stage. We should play the best team. It was nacho who broke the deadlock after all.
bring on Eddie, nelson
a club like westbrom will fit welbeck damn right. he dont deserve to be here
Actually they need a more clinical finisher since they don't get much scoring chances and they simply cant afford welbeck to bottle them :D
both are s**t. so they fit each other
Our management is filled with out right failures for letting Giroud go instead finding a way for it to be Welbeck
Chelsea is not stupid, they didn't want welbeck. Unfortunately the only way we could get Auba was for Giroud to go to chelsea since he wanted to stay in london
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can ppl drop complaint in regards to giroud.. In order to get Auba we had to give up Giroud end of story
U don't know that for sure, Chelsea had other targets..we could have pulled a 180 the moment we got Auba like they did with Demba ba..Welbeck was never a chelsea target but he could have been offered to one of the struggling sides..the real issue is Wenger actually believes in Welbeck
No one knows for sure (unless you directly involved with the club), but it makes total sence
Irony is he said he left United to get minutes, smh.
SIF at the time it was true, now he cannot get into the team.. after all the injuries, he got worse
He flat out doesn't deserve them when we have other players capable of producing end product.
welbeck contract ends in 1.5 years, same as ramsey.
I don't think it will be renewed :D and if not, he will be sold this summer



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