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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3222231/Arsenal-right-hide-Danny-Welbeck-injury-better-window-Premier-League-club.html

Ignore the title of the article and go straight into the main body of the text. The author makes some well articulated observations about our transfer window.

I disagree with his claim that it was a better window for us than any other club, but it certainly was not a disaster. I particularly like this paragraph towards the end:

"Of course it is understandable that fans want signings. They are exciting and new. Gunners supporters have seen every other Premier League club try to get rid of their new TV windfall as quickly as possible, and they want to be part of the orgy of wasteful spending.

But there is no-one out there that Wenger turned down who would have significantly improved his squad at a realistic price.
The Arsenal manager identified his squad's needs, filled them where possible, and refused to waste money when his preferred targets weren't available."


No one will tell me the DM position is perfect and so that point is mute. There are better replacements who were available now. Next year comes around and I'd be surprised if their will be as many options on the market. This is why a lot of clubs realized it's best to spend now than wait when most quality will already be gone.

Arsene also has one more season after this. Is that enough time for him to buy a world class player to have him acclimated into the starting 11 - hitting the ground running? I'm talking the DM position and maybe the striking position.
I found a list of the most injured players in history of 21st century PL sorted by days.. That´s a lot of wages money. smhh
Abou Diaby (2156)
Tomáš Rosický (1188)
Theo Walcott (1030)

That´s 11,99 years of injury time between those 3! :O
It sucks cause all three are really talented
How do you guys feel about having a monthly competition of the best Arsenal forum poster?
I'd get bored of winning after the first couple of months ;-)
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I could set it up if you guys want it
Do it quarterly. Create an incentive/rewards :).
Anyone watch the Ajax highlights?..my gosh Sanogo looked awful
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Frank doesn't rate him for a reason lol
I understand fans being frustrated about the lack of signings and all, the spectators want some action, but it goes a bit too far. We have a good team. I like us not going crazy like ManU have been this summer.

There is something that bothers me in all the media and the forums. Player moves get evaluated much more on the price they got paid for than their real quality. It doesn't apply to all but really, who heard something about Wenger's move to bring Coquelin back? I've heard him being lucky but no one ever said "well played for that move, for sticking with the youngster, it paid off". How many managers would have gone for a panic buy "solution"?

Same goes for players like Bellerin, Wilshere, Ramsey, Gibbs... Media talk about these players being good, but rarely you hear any pundit pointing that Wenger's policy allows those players to develop. Even some signings go under the radar for some reason: Koscielny, Nacho, those are truly great signings.

Of all the realistically possible strikers that we could have signed, I think only Bacca was the one that might have been a decent move. Others would either be WAY overpriced, unrealistic or not good enough. We have Giroud, Alexis, Walcott, Welbeck, Campbell, Chamberlain... And other midfielders that clearly are offensive players or expected to score some goals: Ozil, Ramsey, Wilshere, Cazorla. It takes some player to add quality to that.

I am a bit bothered by the lack of cover for Coquelin, but all in all, we're still stronger now than we were at the end of last season. Cech, what a signing.

Only time will tell, but there is really no need to panic. Our group is strong and we're going to have a good season. Top 3 will be Arsenal, Chelsea and City, the 3 clubs will fight for it until late in the season. ManU have too much to integrate and Liverpool aren't there yet.
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Thank you
thumbs up dude
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tbh, you're underestimating United, as the season progresses, they will be better.

I agree Chargui, but we've been trying to play wingers as CF for years, why can't we bring in a natural CF/ST to rotate with Giroud. Maybe, Wenger just want to play Walcott/Sanchez/Welbeck up top.

We will be in trouble, I thought Welbeck was coming back by October, unfortunately, he won't be back 100% till near end of the year.

Lack of depth/strengthen in areas will cause issues as the season goes on..as usual. Lets just hope for the best!
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Welbeck is a blow for us, but we should be able to cope without him until christmas ..
we loaned out too many players this season. we had only two attacking options on bench - one being joel campbell at newcastle.

we should be really careful with injuries.
We had only welbeck and no giroud for the beginning of last season. Now it's the reverse lol
looks like your policy is 1 star per summer. ozil, sanchez, cech. i wonder who would be next?
Aguero, Messi or Suarez, no doubt.
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So Guardian called Giroud a "stylish, likable, cumbersome b-lister." I shed a puzzled tear. =*-/
i read that as blister and didn't understand. Don't really understand b-lister either tbh
Media is being media. lol

I read it sometimes just to pass time. lol
Gunnzo - like a B-list celebrity (second tier). Not top-class. He's been a vital part in some of our most fantastic team goals and that's why I will never rate him less. Just because he doesn't score 20+ a season he's shyte I guess.
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I think he could score 20 in a season. If you look at the top goal scorers in the past 3 years he's like third behind aguero and suarez
I really dont understand the frustration, Giroud has been integral to our team and he is second best striker in the whole of France, behind Benzema, whom we actually tried to go for, though i believe he wont be MUCH better than Giroud is doing. Have some faith in Giroud ffs. If he gets injured, have some faith in Theo, who has scored plenty for us. That day against Newcastle, he wasnt making the runs and the midfield wasnt looking for his runs. It was just another bad day for almost the whole team.
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So Welbeck went from being ready after the international break to being out for months. Only at the Arsenal
What do you expect with the "best medical team in the world"?
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Noooooooooo!!!

I was really really looking forward to seeing him play again.
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good thing we signed a striker this window. oh wait....
#he'llbelikeanewsigning
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Wenger. "I don't have hindsight like the big clubs".
^ spending 57m on a 19 yr old striker is hindsight???
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he could've spend 60m on Benzema or Cavani or Laca or whatever earlier on the transfer window.
Oh God, yesterday all over again.

It's an expensive insurance policy that I definitely don't agree on.
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and how do u know the clubs would of sold??? and why do people mention Lacazette in the same bracket as the others, he scored a lot of goals, in the same league as giroud did, yet OG gets soo much hate lmao
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Lol giroud out scored zlatan in the French league and won it with Montpellier! That's crazy. And gets so much hate
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we're not comparing OG to anyone, he's one of a kind.

OG is a great CF, one of the best CF that can hold up plays and his technique is amazing them first touches.

What we needed was a different type of Striker, against certain teams, Giroud's style doesn't work.

OG is one of my favorite player at Arsenal.
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JC our lord and savior now...Bendtner who? :) :| ;(
So sad for Danny
well he did have that goal against man u. so he won me over.
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Nikol4i and that celebration ;) just made me to love him, he didnt care to not celebrate
Ugh. Listen, I like Giroud a lot. In fact myself and Zilch were the main people last season to tell you guys we're f'cked without him because who's going to hold up play and help defend against set pieces, etc.

I'm not saying replace him and in fact I can actually live without a pure striker since we do have Theo (good against certain teams), Welbeck and Sanchez who can be deployed as one providing he gets use to the role.

People should stop thinking that if someone complain about the striker position it only means we don't like Giroud. That's not the case. A different option? Yes.
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It is slightly worrying when your second best striker after Olivier Giroud is named Own Goal. (hehe only joking)

I've said it before, but I'm not too upset about not bringing in a striker. We have Campbell and Akpom who I'm excited for, and I would love to see them get a chance here. I know that sounds like I am "settling for top 4", but if I had to choose I truly would rather see The Arsenal Way of giving youngsters a chance rather and developing them into stars over winning many many trophies.

That doesn't mean I'm not ambitious, which is mainly why I am a little bit upset we didn't bring in a DM. We don't really have a youth DM that IMO is good enough to breaking into the first team anytime soon, so a new signing would've made sense for me. But maybe Wenger sees something in a youth player that we don't and couldn't find the perfect replacement in the market (like Cech in the GK position).

It might not win us as many trophies as buying someone today, but if Wenger takes a chance with 10 youngsters and can develop 3 or 4 of them into stars, I would rather grow old watching Arsenal develop stars rather than splurging cash. That would make us, IMHO, a little less unique and a little more boring. :)
Apparently the Martial deal will go up to 58m, unbelievable,for a 19 year old, feel sorry for the kid. Too much weight to handle.
it will go up to 58 if he wins the ballon d'or, wins the league, wins multiple scoring titles in england. if all that happens then i'd say it was worth it.
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^ But if he doesn't, the initial fee would seem too much regardless. It's a very big gamble from LvG and United, and as an Arsenal fan, I'm kinda hoping it doesn't pay off because that would be a meltdown I would love to see tbh lol
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there's not a soul in the world that would tell you he isnt overpriced. it's obvious.

at the same time, sterling, 20 years old, for 49 million is surely overpriced, too. shaw at 30 million follows the same suit. overpriced doesnt mean he's not a quality addition. only time will tell.
Yeah but Sterling and Shaw were regular starters for PL clubs for at least 2 seasons before they made big money moves. They somewhat justify their price tags. Martial has played 8 full matches in his senior career which makes him a much bigger gamble compared to the other 2.
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http://www.transfermarkt.com/anthony-martial/leistungsdatenverein/spieler/182877

he has 7 games in CL (1 assist), 4 in CL qualifiers (1 goal 1 assist), 6 games in french cup (2 goals)

he has 52 appearances in ligue 1: 11 goals, 6 assists.

nothing really outstanding, but 70+ apps for first team before you hit 20 isnt so unimpressive imo. fairly similar to shaw's numbers actually. he might get his first cap this weekend too!
Welbeck being out means we'll get to see Joel Campbell alot more this season.
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The Jeff and Campbell show begins
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Now we're stuck with ONE natural CF lol

Hopefully Walcott can step up as well as Campbell, whom should take #9 already!
This all feels so scripted, i just knew it was going to happen...hopefully JC can pull off a coq
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Actually we have two CF, joel campbell can play on top on his own, he did that for olympacios and for costica rica at the world cup, the difference between him and Giroud, he has more pace and more dribble ability, while Giroud has height and strength over him, which is good against tall and strong defenders, but also a disadvantage bcos he gets fouled alot and the refrees don't call it, with joel on top we will get more free kicks given.
Well Philosophy, the chance for Campbell may be just opening up ;D
I hope he will prove me wrong, he doesn't cut it for me, may be he will change my mind this season. He still 3rd choice in current setup without any new injuries
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/9977318/arsenals-danny-welbeck-out-for-months-after-op

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sigh .... we knew this would happen !!! Injury injury and injury
what's that now? we didn't need to sign a striker? We,ve got Welbeck who's coming back so a striker is not a priority.

Pathetic, and still these Mod Edit: people who dance together will find some bullshit excuse to defend the manager and how it's not his fault.

We've got one recognized striker now! one! In his mind he probably thinks we can still win the title.
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chill dude, we're not idiots. I understand your frustration.
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AssasinedViper go Mod Edit: dance with yourself mate, if you dont believe in a manager, thats you. It doesnt give you right to call others idiots for believing in him, you Mod Edit: solitary dancer.
Yup, AssasinedViper should just Mod Edit: dance with himself and his constant negativity.
chill everybody, we're all frustrated.

@AViper

if you would reconsider using/calling people out like that, I would appericate that. No need to call others idiots or anything, because we all have our opinions and views.
So instead of reporting me you choose to cuss me out, how does that make you any better than me.

Deveus and DaniPak, both of you should get together and share your feelings you sensitive people Mod Edit: who dance together.

And mods, it's been 8/11 hours since these posts have been up so I don't understand why you haven't took action. I'd have expected all our comments except YGs to be down.
Sorry for being careless mods, I know you've got more important stuff to do than clean up our mess. Sorry again.
Arsenal fans are very polarized here on Wenger. I've edited some comments here and because AV didn't escalate, we'll leave it. C'mon guys, you know the rules.

Rylan, footytube moderator.
And sorry for the late reply guys. You're down to one Arsenal mod right now so things get missed when he's not around. None of this was reported either so we can't be blamed for missing it.

Kinda funny after I edited it though. Looks like you guys are arguing about a dance off. :P


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