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Mickey Mouse Cup now called Carabao Cup!! WTF
It was called Carling cup few years back...As long as they money who cares.
just the name of the main sponsor changes.
Carling Cup
Capital One Cup
I'm sure we'll have McDonalds Cup and American Express Cup eventually.
Carling Cup
Capital One Cup
I'm sure we'll have McDonalds Cup and American Express Cup eventually.
Milk Cup too
Ronald McDonald walked out with refs in the United vs Madrid game. Honestly looked so retarded
edit:@deffyduck
https://twitter.com/BigSportGB/status/889229723397758976
edit:@deffyduck
https://twitter.com/BigSportGB/status/889229723397758976
^really? wow, football really is just a commercial opportunity these days, I guess.
I though Ronald McDonald missed a chance to score from a cross
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you mistake a clown for a tree
I know there's all that moral crap about spending money, and how its frowned upon people. Well not anyone in England anymore
But at the end of the day
Id f*****g love it if we spent money like the Manchester clubs do 😂😂😂 and I mean like near £200mill or over every year
But at the end of the day
Id f*****g love it if we spent money like the Manchester clubs do 😂😂😂 and I mean like near £200mill or over every year
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I'm glad someone is admitting it. We City fans give no f**ks, I for one stopped given a f*** and will continue to give no f*** from now on. Why reject gifts that keep on coming. If Arsenal was in this position of spending, would any of you guys be complaining?
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Some guy on this forum did say it's the reason he supports Arsenal though. I definitely don't care ...its board's decision on how much to spend so why would I lose sleep over it? Not unless those who are interested in just mocking rivals
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I'm 100% for it if it's ManU case, they make that money themselves. ManC/Chelsea scenario is boring and plastic, I would have a hard time supporting club like that.
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@Leefo, i dont think them buying world class players on a yearly basis and winning titles is boring lol :D
and yeah there are arsenal fans who do like the way the club is run atm, same can be said with tottenham fans. but at the end of the day, one of them hasn't won the PL in 13 years, and the other club has no fans that have ever since them lift a league title
and yeah there are arsenal fans who do like the way the club is run atm, same can be said with tottenham fans. but at the end of the day, one of them hasn't won the PL in 13 years, and the other club has no fans that have ever since them lift a league title
I might have been that guy Gapha. I do like clubs who invest in formation and in player's development. It's much more valuable imo to build a team with players who grew from within (Ramsey, Gibbs, ...) or developped themselves to become the players they are today (Koscielny, Giroud, ...).
This policy is clearly one of the things that makes this club popular. Arsenal need to invest more right now because they havent been able to for a decade, but they need to keep up with that player's development policy as well.
I am pretty sure that just buying everyone on the market will bring new fans, part of them gloryhunters, but only if trophies follow immediately. On the other hand, that will also make more conservative fans complain right away, and even if we end up winning trophies from it. I know for a fact that a good proportion of the fans dont care about trophies as much as the spirit of the club and the values it follows.
I know a lot of people on this forum cant believe it but that explains why the WengerOut people in North London and at the Emirates are in fact a minority.
This policy is clearly one of the things that makes this club popular. Arsenal need to invest more right now because they havent been able to for a decade, but they need to keep up with that player's development policy as well.
I am pretty sure that just buying everyone on the market will bring new fans, part of them gloryhunters, but only if trophies follow immediately. On the other hand, that will also make more conservative fans complain right away, and even if we end up winning trophies from it. I know for a fact that a good proportion of the fans dont care about trophies as much as the spirit of the club and the values it follows.
I know a lot of people on this forum cant believe it but that explains why the WengerOut people in North London and at the Emirates are in fact a minority.
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yeah it is, if I would choose my team back in 2006 based on your preferences, then I'm fan of Chelsea or Real Madrid.
Like it or not, Wenger stands for something and that something is what makes Arsenal Arsenal. I'm kinda afraid that we will lose the identity when he leaves, like ManU lost theirs. But that's the difference, when Fergie left, he left so much behind that ManU are okay for X years to find themselves again, same will be with Arsenal ... Roman knows this, that's why he's starting to build something lasting with Chelsea. ManC on the other side are still just a f*****g boy toy of some rich ass oil guy from Middle East.
And really, people nowadays are so f*****g boring with being obsessed with numbers. He scored X goals and won Y titles, booooring, grow up people. It's sport. It's easy to compare sportsman by titles won and goals scored, but it's bullshit really.
Like it or not, Wenger stands for something and that something is what makes Arsenal Arsenal. I'm kinda afraid that we will lose the identity when he leaves, like ManU lost theirs. But that's the difference, when Fergie left, he left so much behind that ManU are okay for X years to find themselves again, same will be with Arsenal ... Roman knows this, that's why he's starting to build something lasting with Chelsea. ManC on the other side are still just a f*****g boy toy of some rich ass oil guy from Middle East.
And really, people nowadays are so f*****g boring with being obsessed with numbers. He scored X goals and won Y titles, booooring, grow up people. It's sport. It's easy to compare sportsman by titles won and goals scored, but it's bullshit really.
ah finally someone who isn't looking at football like a 15 yo :)
I'm pretty sure every club stands for something. There is a reason why each club was founded--mainly for the community and people around it.
Now who are we to say reason/Morals A is right and B is wrong? To each his own and let's be honest Arsenal and Liverpool have spent big money as well.
In terms of youth, I could make an argument for Man city -- they recently invested close to 300mm on their training facility and youth development. They may not have youth coming through but Im sure their investments will help the kids in the community develop and move on to other places.
Chelsea for example probably has the best youth system right now. Its graduates almost always get a place somewhere but Chelsea's first team. So you see, no one method is right and no one method is boring or wrong when you look deeper. clubs just go about things differently as all.
I started supporting Chelsea because everyone in my house was a Chelsea fan and my dad lived in west london. I love that the club has an owner who loves success and is not afraid to invest in the club although our policy has since changed.
so to each his own
Now who are we to say reason/Morals A is right and B is wrong? To each his own and let's be honest Arsenal and Liverpool have spent big money as well.
In terms of youth, I could make an argument for Man city -- they recently invested close to 300mm on their training facility and youth development. They may not have youth coming through but Im sure their investments will help the kids in the community develop and move on to other places.
Chelsea for example probably has the best youth system right now. Its graduates almost always get a place somewhere but Chelsea's first team. So you see, no one method is right and no one method is boring or wrong when you look deeper. clubs just go about things differently as all.
I started supporting Chelsea because everyone in my house was a Chelsea fan and my dad lived in west london. I love that the club has an owner who loves success and is not afraid to invest in the club although our policy has since changed.
so to each his own
Gapha
You and me and anybody else have the right to say that A is better than B in their eyes. It's exactly what we're doing right now. "To each his own" is a given, it's obvious, what's interesting is to have a discussion about it :)
Unlike what you say, I think it is obvious that Arsenal and Wenger count much more on unproven players than other big clubs. Let me get it straight: that doesnt mean that other clubs dont have a good youth system, but AFC counts on unproven players to go in the first team and make it happen. You dont see that as much in other big teams. And it's not only about youth football.
I get your point and I agree. Other big clubs form a lot of young players, etc. Real Madrid is one of the most important formation structure in Spanish football for example, they just dont really use the players they develop into the first team.
I really love the fact that Arsenal go to the French 2nd division, see a guy who is already 25 years old with low experience, buy him and make him one of the best defenders in the PL (Koscielny). It has a financial reason to it as well obviously, but it's also a certain way of managing the club. It's not just about youth development, it's about the way you manage the first team as well.
You and me and anybody else have the right to say that A is better than B in their eyes. It's exactly what we're doing right now. "To each his own" is a given, it's obvious, what's interesting is to have a discussion about it :)
Unlike what you say, I think it is obvious that Arsenal and Wenger count much more on unproven players than other big clubs. Let me get it straight: that doesnt mean that other clubs dont have a good youth system, but AFC counts on unproven players to go in the first team and make it happen. You dont see that as much in other big teams. And it's not only about youth football.
I get your point and I agree. Other big clubs form a lot of young players, etc. Real Madrid is one of the most important formation structure in Spanish football for example, they just dont really use the players they develop into the first team.
I really love the fact that Arsenal go to the French 2nd division, see a guy who is already 25 years old with low experience, buy him and make him one of the best defenders in the PL (Koscielny). It has a financial reason to it as well obviously, but it's also a certain way of managing the club. It's not just about youth development, it's about the way you manage the first team as well.
Chelsea are not the moneybag team from 2004, they are making a lot of good transfer deals these days
The only reason man Utd can spend is because of SAF. He turned the club into one of the biggest in the sport and woody is doing a good job of keeping the club there despite few poor seasons
City are just embarrassment to the sport.
If they had given Pellegrini half the budget that they have given Pep he would have won everything there is to win. Even Mancini would have won a lot if they didn't fire him
The Mancini's city team was pretty tough to hate even as a man Utd fan, that side was well drilled with a classy manager
Unlike now
The only reason man Utd can spend is because of SAF. He turned the club into one of the biggest in the sport and woody is doing a good job of keeping the club there despite few poor seasons
City are just embarrassment to the sport.
If they had given Pellegrini half the budget that they have given Pep he would have won everything there is to win. Even Mancini would have won a lot if they didn't fire him
The Mancini's city team was pretty tough to hate even as a man Utd fan, that side was well drilled with a classy manager
Unlike now
http://www.givemesport.com/1107941-lucas-perez-reveals-details-of-awful-treatment-by-arsenal
I feel for him he did well almost everytime he got a chance
I feel for him he did well almost everytime he got a chance
It is hard for him. I still don't understand why welbeck is prefer more than him, the same as Walcott
rumours that he was shiity in the dressing room.. who knows who knows
That's rumor, but what we can see in front is the lack of respect towards player. Ozil won't get the number 10 because of wilshere, although he was loaned. But Perez was not even ask though he was with the club. He asked to leave to China with more playing time, but aw refused, yet aw dont play him. Sometimes AW do have favorite players, even if they are not good enough compared to others, they still given tons of chances
Diontan you dont know whats happening in the dressing room, neither do I.. I dont think its just black and white, may be there is something more to it that me and you dont know.. or may be we did treat him like shiit, we just dont know
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If pep doesnt win any silverware in the next season, will he get the sack?
or have they just spent too much to change managers?
or have they just spent too much to change managers?
Should get sacked.
Nah he's a coward would retire before that and hide in oman
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Who do they go for next? They just have to stick with him like it or not
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Moyes isn't managing anyone at the moment. They can have him
Damn Martial put Madrids defenders on skates. Brilliant footwork
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At the rate the market goes right now, I can see Mbappe sold in 3-4 years for 300-400mil
The world will have surely exploded before 300-400 mill for a player happens. Or at least no currency in the world will hold any real value.
Gloryroad Idk if 300-400M will happen but its a fact that nobody would have believed 10 years ago that the fees we see today would happen...
Forget transfer fees. What about wages??? The Chinese will break the million mark a week for a player soon lmao
if Mbappe is only 18 and already worth more than 100m. if he continues to improve 300-400m doesnt sound far off
Whats the news on Lemar?
I'm really hoping we get him. I think a season in Europe will really set up a few young stars to have a really solid season in the one following, I'm talking Iwobi Jeff etc. Lemar would be an excellent part of a new "core" imo.
I'm really hoping we get him. I think a season in Europe will really set up a few young stars to have a really solid season in the one following, I'm talking Iwobi Jeff etc. Lemar would be an excellent part of a new "core" imo.
Xgoon the sauce, saying we signing him ;)
Not signing
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Already signedddddd
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I for one am delighted. Glad to know its confirmed. ;)
Would you rather us:
A) Keep sanchez for 1 more season and offload him free next summer while getting 1 more good year out of him.
B) Sell him for 40m outside of the premier league and use that money to buy a new winger.
C) Stick to our guns and put a price tag of around 75m for him if anyone wants to pay that then let him leave despite the team.
A) Keep sanchez for 1 more season and offload him free next summer while getting 1 more good year out of him.
B) Sell him for 40m outside of the premier league and use that money to buy a new winger.
C) Stick to our guns and put a price tag of around 75m for him if anyone wants to pay that then let him leave despite the team.
A and C
A
Problem with A is he might join a PL rival for free next season you would not have any control where he goes. Atleast now you can take some money and sell him to non PL team like PSG.
If holding Sanchez for another season is 100% guarantee PL or CL then it makes sense. But does it is the real question?
If holding Sanchez for another season is 100% guarantee PL or CL then it makes sense. But does it is the real question?
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I got weird feeling by selling him to PSG, that Man City will buy him from PSG.. The same way how they did with Lampard loan
PSG wants to attract the biggest talents though. They want to be bigger than real and barca so I don't see them getting rid of sanchez once they get a hold of him.
Bazinga, I think keeping sanchez does almost guarantee either a top 4 finish or a europa league championship. The guy single handedly wins us games.
Bazinga, I think keeping sanchez does almost guarantee either a top 4 finish or a europa league championship. The guy single handedly wins us games.
If they are going to invest all the money they sell him for than C is the best choice.
non
B) but for slightly more than £40m
Somewhere between £50-70m is reasonable.
He's clearly not interested in staying, I'd rather use the money for players that want to be here.
Somewhere between £50-70m is reasonable.
He's clearly not interested in staying, I'd rather use the money for players that want to be here.
He may not want to stay here, but it's not like he will not give his all every game like he usually does. Especially in a world cup year. I know he's not fighting for a spot or anything, but it's just his nature to give everything he has b/c he loves the game.
I think it depends on how likely we are to get some other targets in the market. If we are a solid chance of Lemar etc, then I'm pretty okay with letting Sanchez go, but if not I doubt he would put in half arsed attempts. Once he gets on the field he wants to give it all and win, and I've never doubted that about him.
To some extent if he isn't going to be around I'd rather spend a couple of seasons in the wilderness playing the kids than keep investing games and therefore experience and playing chemistry into him.
I guess there is always the chance that we have a great season next season and he really wants to stay as well, so thats an argument to leave him for another season.
I guess ... I don't know?
To some extent if he isn't going to be around I'd rather spend a couple of seasons in the wilderness playing the kids than keep investing games and therefore experience and playing chemistry into him.
I guess there is always the chance that we have a great season next season and he really wants to stay as well, so thats an argument to leave him for another season.
I guess ... I don't know?
http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/23/alexis-sanchez-agrees-four-year-contract-with-paris-saint-germain-6799303/
Don't let him go wenger!
Don't let him go wenger!
Not football related but Kyrie Irving wanting to leave the Cavs??? Kevin Durant changed the NBA.
Cavs seems like not the healthy organization.. Why he wants to leave?! But also he is not the smartest person.
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BECAUSE THE WORLD IS FLAT
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