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Thoughts? If we signed Nastasic/CB to end our transfer window, it's a way to compensate for a lack of a true CM-D, avoid playing Ozil out of position, and also play 2 up front like some of you have been asking for. Radical, I know. But maybe a 3/5 back is the next generation. Just like it was 4-4-2 before and now it's 4-3-3/4-5-1. A 3-5-2/5-3-2 next?

-----------------------------------------Szczesny/Ospina------------------------------------------
-----------Chambers/Jenks---Mertesacker/Hayden---Koscielny/Miquel--------------
Debuchy/Bellerin-------------------------------------------------------------Gibbs/Monreal
---------------Cazorla/Arteta------Ramsey/Wilshere-------Ozil/Rosicky----------------
--------------------------Giroud/Campbell----------Sanchez/Walcott------------------------
Bellerin is going on loan lol
Yeah, and probably Jenkinson too. I'm talking more long-term right now. And even with Bellerin/Jenks on loan, we could still employ it this season if we sign a CB and then play Chambers at RWB.

Just a wild idea that popped into my head. It seems like a formation like this could work well in the future, given the likes of Gibbs (winger qualities), Wilshere (some defensive qualities but not CM-D), Chamberlain (CM-A + a little wide), Chambers (CB/RB), Campbell (some winger qualities), Sanogo (not physical enough alone), Akpom (Henry-like), Bellerin (RB/RW), etc. and a rather lack of CM-D talent not only in Arsenal but kinda worldwide. I also think Walcott could play up front successfully in a 5-3-2 compared to a failure in both the wing and up front positions in a 4-4-2. Our Merts-Kos can still play another 5 years. If we bring in Nastasic, he can play many years too. And I'd say finding a CB to play in a 3 CB formation is a lot easier and cheaper than finding a CM-D.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NIJLw7g23M

You yanks really know how to amuse yourselves.
Classic, a rather random post but thanks for this haha
There's more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFS6Ky7OnAw

F*cking hell I love America. God bless.
http://m.skysports.com/article/football//9399651


I wonder how much cake city got for him now??
My poorly written, completely biased and feeble attempt at predicting the PL top 4 this season:

1) Chealski (Addition of strong talent + strong motivation to win title after failing to hold on late last season + the drogba factor = 1st place)
2) Arsenal (Great new signings + Diabi's return + Wengers tactical genius - higher expectations due to new signings and fan pressure = 2nd place)
3) ManSh**y (strong team + great depth - lack of intense desire due to already winning last year - individual player Ego(Nasri) = 3rd place)
4) ManU (Van Gaal's genius + strong desire to qualify for CL and prove the nay-sayers wrong + Arturo Vidal?? = 4th place)

Feel free to mock and insult me... However, come next year, if I'm right, be prepared for some SERIOUS bragging!
I don't see how that's biased, it's almost spot on with what most neutrals would be thinking.

Most level minded people will have Chelsea at the top of the tree, with Arsenal and City alternating between 2nd and 3rd. Alternating between 4th and 5th will be Liverpool and United. I actually think United will be kept out of the top 4, they have a long way to come back despite what will surely be a huge improvement under Van Gaal.

I think unsurprisingly, Spurs and Everton will battle it out for 6th place. One club I expect could be the surprise "best of the rest" is West Ham, and Villa are also a club with unrealized talent for a few seasons now. Southampton will have to spend to compete like they could last season.
Yeah, Villa could be the best outside the top 7 IMO. Newcastle perhaps as well.
Sjsung I forgot about Newcastle but Pardew is such a lunatic, and Ashley is such a torrid owner that they might mess it all up.
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So last two seasons every other fan said we wouldnt make it to top 4 :)

We made it.

This season every other fan says that we will be top 4 but not champions

Do you get where I am going ;3
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not to rip up any sore memories, but i wonder have arsenal would have looked if fabregas, persie, nasri etc have stayed. thoughts?
The title will be won in London imo, that's all I'm saying for now.
Ping I really think the only player that really hurt us by leaving was Fabregas. Our entire style of play went out the window with him because it centered around him. Even when RvP was scoring goals our play was very slow, boring and ugly at times. We had to rely on RvP moments of genius which isn't really good for the team while Fabregas made everyone better. Nasri I feel was never a key player till his final few months with us. Wasn't very consistent & got into a few fights.

Had we not sold these 3 I don't know if it would be possible for us to get the players we have now. We probably wouldn't get Ozil.

Now we have Ozil in the Fabregas role so we are good. We have cazorla, Walcott, Ox, Alexis in for the Nasri role. Giroud, Podli, Walcott, Ramsey, Cazorla making up for goals RvP created. We have a lot more quality all over the pitch now than when we had those 3 players. They were also rarely fit or in form at the same time as each to form killer partnerships.
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Not as good as we are now, they were toothless. Nasri was a great player that one season but hasn't been quite the same at City, although he has been more impressive last season for them.

RvP was not a team player, he scored great goals but Giroud actually works a lot harder, especially defensively. I'm not saying he's the better player, but in a team he meshes better with the rest of our guys.

I'm not convinced Fabregas is a winner, and I'm sorry to say that because I used to absolutely love him. When the going gets tough, he goes missing, it's a fact. Ramsey, in a way his replacement, is a winner. Cesc's behavior in his final season was dire, he didn't much care and if he did, he didn't have the balls to fight hard enough for the club he captained. It's a tragedy how it has turned with him and Arsenal.
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The problem with Fabregas was that we always played through him, so when the going did get tough, it was tough to have a Plan B. But I think that's more our fault for not having players around him who could relieve the burden a little bit. Now we have Ozil, Ramsey, and Wilshere with a DLP Arteta as an option as well (Song wasn't much of a 2nd option to Cesc).

Same with RvP (after Ade left). He was absolutely lethal and if he and Giroud were on the same team, we would've had our Plan A and Plan B.

That's why losing those 3 were so painful IMO. Because had we kept all 3 - RvP, Nasri, and Fabregas - then we would've eventually had multiple threat-points to launch our attacks from. But we've taken the long route and now we do have those options with Ozil and Ramsey, and Sanchez/Walcott up front. I still think we don't have a proven RvP or Suarez yet. We do have a proven "Adebayor" type of striker in Giroud (and Giroud is a lot better passer too). Hopefully Sanchez is that answer.

When you have 1 star player, it's somewhat easy to shut that person down. Of course he'll have the brilliant moment or two but those individual moments by themselves won't be enough to carry the team over the whole season. I guess that's why you win and lose as a team. You should play to the team's strengths and bring in/grow the right stars. Not the other way around.
Dougie I can't agree with the last part. Fabregas was definitely a winner. The 2 goals against Aston villa injured off the bench to win the game, bringing the whole squad back into the stoke game when Ramsey got injured and everyone was sad, injuring himself by scoring the equalizer against barca, making the key pass that started the play for the arshavin goal against barca, and more.

His last season was filled with injuries, annoying press bothering him, and news of his grandfather's death. Half the games he started he wasn't fit or injured.
Gunner3 and what of his time in Barca? Sure he was treated unfairly, but he had his chances and his arrival coincided with their decline.

He can't hide his emotions and watching him during his final years here, he was depressed all the time it seemed. RvP, despite being a c*nt, stepped up when he left because RvP does have some passion to him.

The players we have now have more of a stomach to them than Cesc did, there's no doubt about it. You talk about making a good pass against Barca, what about the back heel out of defence to give them the lead in the return leg? That's a mistake a winner doesn't make.
@Dougie27 I think Fabregas WAS a winner when he was a young boy with us. He is no longer right now because of his fateful desire to go back to Barca and then the awful realization that it was the wrong move. But he's back in London now and I think that spirit could be reignited. We'll see though.
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some ardent wenger fans do not want to talk or see about the weakiness of the coach. Arguably, the guy is one of the good manager in the world. We( arsenal fans) have love and respect for wenger. But the reality is he made a very fragile team ( especially in defense) for the last 7 or 8 years. Every pundit, year after year, has doubted the solidity of the team and finally their doubt became real. I think those pundit didnt see a solid team in arsenal shirt for the past few years. This may be the reason why they always say that the arsenal team will finish out of the top four. what i love to see from wenger is to show them a very strong and solid team in the new season .That is the only answer and convincing factor for a person like michael Owen.
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The fact that u said Micheal Owen made a convincing factor makes it really really hard for us to acknowledge anything you say... I mean come on piers Morgan wouldn't even say that, and that guy knows absolute jack s**t about football, which then makes u worse
+3
I think this guy is a Spurs or Chelsea fan just having a laugh on here, there's no other reason for the stupidity :)
+2
are you a troll??
Fūck Owen. You put him next to shīt and I wouldn't know the difference.
@GSS You would know the difference because one of the two doesn't lie.
this has to be seen to be believed

http://shewore.com/2014/07/29/has-arsene-wenger-wasted-66-million/
I don't think we were short anywhere last season except ST, and that's the one position we've added. I agree that Debuchy/Ospina were replacements, but they aren't worse than what we had, and Sagna/Fabianski were set on leaving anyway (ie: a sunk cost).

As for Chambers, the other positions were never about pure "depth". When I say "depth," it is just as much about finding quality players and creating a second XI that could start on any given day. So while in a literal sense we've added little depth, in a practical sense I believe we have added with Chambers. Is paying £16m a risk? Yes. But is it a heavier risk than Sanchez? No. If Sanchez fails to adapt as a BPL Arsenal striker, then we could be in big big trouble.

Other than ST, the one position we were vulnerable last season was CB because we didn't have a 4th CB (unless we move Sagna with a loss at RB). However, with Chambers's versatilty, I would say if we can upgrade Vermaelen with a better CB, we'll no longer need to add numbers.

Long story short, I think "depth" is more than just numerical. If you add quality you didn't have before, that is depth as well. In fact, purely adding a CM-D will probably mean we have too many numbers there, and Coquelin and/or Arteta will probably leave in the upcoming year if that is the case.
I don't have the energy to address that ridiculous post, but let's just say there is so much wrong with it...
I tend to agree somewhat...

Sanchez is known to play on the wings or 2nd striker, but can he play as a lone striker if Giroud is injuried? Even if he's injured who will Sanchez play upfront with? With Sanogo likely to leave on loan, he was our closet lone striker to Giroud, can we also rely on Podolski, Campbell (if he doesn't go on loan), or Theo as backup if Giroud is injured to partner Sanchez our only striker? Do we need another tall, physical player like Adebayor/Kanu?

Id say we are still in for a DM, as the rumors have it, hopefully we see one coming in before the end of the window.

I'd still like to see a CB come in, an experience older CB in the mold of Vermaelen/Djourou, a good backup. I can see Chambers do a job for us in DM/CB against a midtable/lower table PL team or CC, but I can't see us rely on him in those positions against ManU, Chelsea, ManCity, Liverpool or a CL game.
Debuchy and Ospina were solid signings considering we were in need of replacing Fabianski and Sagna. We did well to find replacements for a total of £16m or so.

Chambers we probably overpaid for a little, but I think that the signing was made because: A) he's one of the best youngsters available, B) he covers at CB, RB, and CDM and I think Wenger's switched focus from CDM to CB now (our last signing).

Sanchez is the biggest risk - Price was good IF he's successful as a striker. If he's successful as a winger since LW was never world class for us. But there's also the risk he'll flop in a new league and new team. Also, if he does fail at ST, we have the same situation of relying on Giroud again unless Campbell/Sanogo/Akpom suddenly jump to first team level.
Reus injury stopped Wenger from activating his clause according to Kike Marin. Probably why we went for Sanchez IMO
reus clause activates next summer, not this summer.
Watching ESPNFC, these guys are the most patronizing c*nts its just unbearable. "Top 4 at best", "I doubt Arsenal will challenge for anything", "Wenger gets to much credit for building Arsenal up".

Alexis Sanchez, Mathieu Debuchy, Calum Chambers, David Ospina in and it isn't August. The team without them last season could've won the title without injuries, and we won the cup. It's like they'll never change their tune.
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who was on the panel??
Craig Burley, former Chelsea w****r. He's worse than Michael Owen and Alan Shearers child. I simply couldn't bare it, I stopped watching.

He said Wenger had nothing to do with the stadium being built...
sorry but douglie I'm afraid you are wrong no one is as bad a Michael owen

but what the f**k is that second part he had nothing to do it he was the one who suggested it
You might get top3....
I love it when pundits say we won't make top 4. Year after year they say the same thing, but we keep proving them wrong.
+3
They wouldn't be happy if Wenger had moved every brick.
+2
i got so pissed at espnfc during the new york red bulls game because alexi lalas (huge f****r) kept saying over and over again "arsenal are generally a club that cares more about making money than winning trophies, they are happy getting 4th and collecting the paycheck" and also claimed that he thinks even if we had been full strength, he wouldn't have been surprised if the red bulls beat us.
+2
Every time the rumours of Reus to Arsenal turn up, I just think of this picture and start dreaming pic.twitter.com/HwRu5S6WUh
Why would Arsene go for Reus, when he skipped on Cesc...

I would rather get Cesc if we had the chance and didn't pass him off to Chelsea any day. Such a disappointment.
+4
cos reus is a winger/striker, where cesc is a central midfielder
+4
Because

1. He can play on either flang
2. He can play forward if needed
3. He extremely good at pressing
4. He scores more than our star striker
5. He is solid defensively cough cough Fabregas cough cough
6. Because he is mothagreman REUS.

Nuff said
+2


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