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Georginio Wijnaldum is going to Newcastle

Edit. Zakaria Bakkali having a medical with Valencia
haha, i remember him, fm gem
Having just helped his country win their first ever Copa America, Alexis Sanchez is spotted at an airport.. wearing an Arsenal cap. Hero.
I think y messi sucks internationaly simply beacause of the league he is playing period. He is not challenged at la liga, to force his desperation, he has it too easy at barca, so psychologically he dosen't have to push himself, if he were at the epl, where by he challenged daily with the likes of arsenal, mancity, chelsea, manunited, liverpool, tottenham, southampton etc, it will lite a fire in him to push himself more, yes alexis sanchez is a work horse, but the epl improved his game immerserly compared to where he was at barca i saw the difference in his game, same goes for ronaldo and suarez and b4 someone say what about aguero?, remember he is still recovering from injuries, he has not being tour de force he was last season.

For messi to be messi for argentina he needs to be battle ready day in and day out, i feel the longer he stays in barca the unlikely he will break the psychological barrier that has prevented him showing up for argentina
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I think you are completely wrong. If you were right, Messi would suck in European games for Barça too, and he's the best in the CL there has ever been. You're clearly displaying a profound lack of knowledge about Spain's league, because it's been better than England's for about ten years. And if you bring up the 'competitive' argument again: the smaller Spanish teams win the EL consistently and do very well in the CL too. Spain is much more than Barça and Real.

The issue is that international football is vastly different from club football. Throw Messi in an English 2nd division club and it's very likely he won't produce the same numbers he does at Barça either, just because the style of football is terrible for him and his team mates are far inferior to him. Synergy between great players is needed to make the team great as well.

Messi usually plays pretty well for Argentina (as a creator) if you watch him play, but so often you can see him just looking around for someone to play a brilliant pass to with no one present. When he's played as a striker he rarely sees the ball either so he can't do as much with +-35 touches a game compared to +-100 at Barça.

If international football was relevant, a player like Podolski should be considered as one of the best strikers Germany has ever seen while legends like Di Stéfano, Puskas, Cruijff, Platini, Zico, Maldini, Messi or Bergkamp would be poor, and that's clearly not true.

History judges the quality of players mostly based on their club performances, because that's 90% of the football they play and it's (especially in modern times) a much higher level than international football too. Argentina is an incoherent team of stars just like SO many other theoretically great international teams (Brazil, Belgium, France, England) are. In the past decade, Germany and Spain are literally the only top international teams that have a good chemistry amongst each other.
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You just said spanish league better than english?! come on now...
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Look up who won the CL and EL in the past 10 years.
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Messi can't do everything himself. His Argentine teammates are skilled but aren't on the same level as him. It's either that or they just don't have the chemistry. PPl tend to play to the ability of their teammates and opponents (applies to most ppl). You can't say Messi is an international flop...there's only so much 1 man can do when there are 10 other players f*****g things up.
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Jeroen wins
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someones got a hard-on for Messi.
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Messi doesn't suck internationally. He's their best player more often than not. You can't expect him to carry his team every time. People can be so fickle.
LOL....the only reason why madrid and barca are dominant in CL is because of their TV rights money......so you guys can afford the best of the best players.....bayern is also in a similar situation where they have all the top german prospects....but that doesnt make german or spanish league better....EPl is the most watched league simply because its more attractive.....
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The reason Messi doesn't do that well at international level is because it's a different team so he has to adapt his playstyle.

Look at both Ronaldo and Messi, neither is anywhere near as prolific at international as they are at club level.

Ronaldo: 55 in 110
Messi : 46 in 103
haha Philosophy lesson learned: on THIS forum, in your own team thread, absolutely ANYTHING you will write about:

-Messi
-Barca
-Fifa and Barca
-questioning Spain league strength and putting word "tennis" and "Spain" in one sentence.

Will be met by over defensive Barca fan. That is simply a fact. Even if some of your points would be more or less correct and definitive, Barca fan will do ANYTHING to put more value to defend their points and ignore yours.
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@StandardCritic, Lol, couldnt have said it better myself.
Jeroen, i think what you mean is Spanish league has the best teams in the world. That is completely different from being the best league in the world. Just because H Bolt is running a 100m race dosent make the race automatically the best in the world. There is more to it than that.
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@StandardCritic I'm the first to agree that Barca fans are too defensive about stuff but (1) Jeroen is not one of those fans (2) On this issue Philosophy just happens to be plain wrong, and any impartial fan would agree with that (e.g. ask Serie A and Bundeliga fans what they think).
I completely agree with Jeroen on this one
dear me, f**k you guys. stop it right now

be human for once
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L'equipe says we're back in for Morgan scheiderlin
I truly hope so!
I'd love a good hijacking for this man!
@Shaymoose17: xD

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lmfao i find that amazing!
"Samir Nasri Official ✔@SamNasri19

Never asked anyone to comeback!! Really happy where i am right now so stop with your silly story"


LOL so defensive about rumors of him back to Arsenal
+2
To be honest, the current Samir Nasri cannot make it to the first team of Arsenal. Ozik, Sanchez, Ramsey, Cazorla, Wilshere etc, he will have to sit in the bench here aswell. Wenger could not adjust Fabregas in the team. Nasri- no way
I think he's defensive because he got rejected haha
Pew pew pew
missing cloudst already?
+1
holy s**t...i just realized something while thinking about my previous post replies to omgozil.

basically squad #s with multiples of 9 are cursed for us...ive already listed the 9 and 18s below...and add 27 to that list as well because of Mr Forehead Gervinho...Oh and also eboue. LMAO WTF...is this a trend or what :D :D
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why Eboue?
I wonder if Sanchez will take number 9
please no...9 is cursed xD
merson, anelka, suker, jeffers, reyes, baptista, eduardo, park, podolski

Of all these the only two i would say have been better or showed promise ( eduardo - definately...prolly the best finisher we've had since henry/bergkamp etc...and secondly, Reyes...showed promise till he decided he was more homesick for spain again :X)...and i dont want to mention anelka since he played for chelsea :P
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and we should retire the #18 as well because of all the great legends we've had as 18s

girmandi, cygan (lol), silvester (double lol), squillaci (no amount of lols can be sufficient for this)
+3
Hahaha beebo that's just messed up
He should wait for the 7
Sanchez should take #7. Suits him more. Leave #9 until you get a proper striker
Sanchez for #7
Pirlo to NYC is done.
And then loaned to city for a season :P
I knew





Like two years ago
YG, we might have to start docking those late inb4's from your tally of transfer rumors :p
@OMGOzil

lol welcome back

YG +12121219310


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