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People calling for Wenger's head. Why do you want Wenger sacked now? Give me precise reasons. And even though it seems very unpopular right now, I still believe in him. So I would like to have a healthy discussion.

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'I still believe in him' I genuinely can't believe some people. Can you please enlighten me as to why you put so much belief in someone that's evidently not able to run this club anymore.
well at least his willing to wait for 38 games before passing judgement
The man was already the most successful Arsenal manager winning 3 PL titles,4 FA cups & 4 Community shields in his first 8 years.

Knowingly he entered into his next 8 year stint where he knows challenging for the Top honours will be extremely difficult.Only reason he did this was to repay Arsenal Football club who believed in him when he was literally unknown.

He was definitely successful as a manager during this period over achieving above the quality of players that he had and consistently making profits every year(Like it or not that was part of his objectives).

Now that we have come out of this period(in 2013),he is building a team that will challenge for top honours. So he had like 1.5 years. we have a FA cup to show for it.Now the team is getting ready. I definitely believe that we are going through a temporary blip as a result of variety of factors (Injuries,Out of form players letting down manager's trust, Many new signings this year so team balance got affected & also few mistakes on Wenger's part mainly trusting players who does not deserve his trust )

Yes right now, the team is going through a bad patch.So does our manager in terms of producing results. But I believe the quality of out team will come through very soon this season. We will challenge for top honours in his final two years of contract. Give him this January & Summer transfer window, I think our team will be ready.

This is exactly how I look at the current situation.So yeah I still believe in him!!!
Podolski: I'm not a clown who will just sit out contract

ohh those word might piss-off lot of people at the club..cant see him staying beyond January for sure.

Read more at http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/372139.html#p7fFBk9s7vC2Q5lw.99
If those were his exact words,I think he is making it easy for Wenger to show him the door come January.
you guys know wenger as well as anyone.

is he the type to step down? or will he try and complete his contract. seems as though the board have no authority and wouldn't dream of sacking him.

or maybe it is a question of how bad would it have to get for wenger to be forced to step down?
I doubt he'll step down during the contract. He'll likely walk away at the end of his current one.

I don't see him getting an extension..No one will fire him..they will wait and appoint him as an executive after his contract..that's my guess anyway
Arsene will not quit and he won't be fired.

He will most likely walk away after his contract is over.
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No he's stubborn he will make us suffer till the bitter end and he will never change the way his team plays even though every manager in the premier league knows how to easily deal with his tactics
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^cuz that's his life goal right..it can't possibly be hurting him as much as us huh..
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No it can't be hurting him as much as us, we don't earn fkin 10 million a season we almost have to pay to be fans.
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Lmao who is giving this guy thumbs up?

You really think Wenger enjoys losing? Get real, please.
Giroud can't play against Borussia Dortmund as he isn't registered..

Lol! oops!

http://www.buzzyfootball.com/new/H1clNf
hahahaha I can only laugh at this

I guess it's because they didn't expect him back so soon.
Well it's not like he would have started so soon anyway
+1
After seeing Welbeck enough times this season. I don't think he should be starting when Giroud is 100%. Welbeck's is not the type of player who should be starting every week. Still has some way to go before he can offer what Giroud offers..With Welbeck's superior pace over O.G makes him a good sub when we're leading to finish off teams...
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O.G is very effective against weaker teams(not sure what we are looking at the table), but even at our midfield's peak OG is limited against good defensive opposition. Our play becomes predictable and is shut down. Welbeck gives us more options.
What do you guys see in Welbeck? His passes are awful, shots are no where to be seen and his decision making is a joke. Yes he athletic so he will make runs in behind defenders, but has his 'runs' ever been productive? Welbeck doesn't hold a chance once Giroud is 100% There's a reason he scored like 2 goals in all completion for United last season or the year before.

Btw, jus giving my 2 cents on Welbeck so I'm sorry if I offended anyone.
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Giroud is more efficient and makes our team more structured but Welbeck opens up spaces for Sanchez to operate and allows more fluidity in the team.

I trust Giroud more in front just because we know he can deliver however I think together they can be a great force in the league.
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RealFan Welbeck was bought because Giroud was injured plain and simple..No one expected too much from him at the start. Just a more athletic option to Giroud. His England form is what's been giving us hope that he can be more....
A classy man Arsene is, at a classy club.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2847000/Paul-Gascoigne-reveals-Arsene-Wenger-Arsenal-paid-50-000-England-legend-s-medical-care.html
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He is a man of class there's little doubt about that.
So you give 50k for free to an alchoholic ex spurs player that has had more then enough help already but you keep your ticket prices sky high for the low income fans that have to spend a big chunk of their pay packets in order to watch arsenal play each week?

#wengerout #gazidisout
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Don't let your hatred for the current league position twist your ability to respect what the club has done for a person in need of help.
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And here I was hoping there would be no negative comments on this positive story. Of course I was wrong in thinking that.
@Aussie - oh you wanted compassion and understanding? Well you came to the wrong place, esé!
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how is this a positive story? paul gascoigne is a no hope alchoholic, while we are giving free hand outs to random people why don't we give the arsenal fans that pay to go to the games every week compensation for this utter s**t embarrassment of a season we are having?

In fact make that compensation for the last 10 years of wengers reign.
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https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=375004036008859

Pires and Ljungberg talking about old times and how they enjoyed wengerball
"I enjoyed wengerball because we actually had a decent set of defenders and defensive midfielder so we didn't have to worry about losing possession and getting counter attacked because our centreback didn't think he was a left winger"
+1
We have been struggling the same way for past 3, 4, 5 years, but I don't understand if its Wenger, the board, or somebody else, but we're going through the same problems, lack of reinforcement in certain position is causing us, yet again.

I understand the injury to Wilshere, Ramsey, Ozil, Giroud, Debuchy, Kos are unexpected, but you loan out Jenkinson(our 2nd RB), thinking we can go for a season with 1 experienced RB? even if you're thinking to use Chambers as a cover RB, you sold Verm5, now you're thinking to go for a season with 2 natural CBs? do you think Flamini is good enough? he will struggle to make into first team at Burnley, he's years are behind him, is the quality of Arsenal that low? oh we have Arteta that is in his 30s?

Wenger to us is like a father figure, but I think he have this season, and if we have the same problem next season, I think he'll be out...
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He won't go, the board won't sack him so........ Have to wait until the end of his contract and hope these idiots who's running the club don't offer him another contract and hopefully Wenger sees he's long overdue and declines if given the contract. New start needed, a new chapter.
Arsenal are not the same club they once were and they haven't been for quite some time now. It has come to the point where the club's most prominent players in recent memory have decided to seek greener pastures, the fans have become divided to some degree, and the players appear to show a lack of belief and fight.

A lot of you should be coming to grips with this by now.

Arsene Wenger has lost his touch, and is on course to crippling Arsenal. The board seems incompetent, much like the manager's understanding of tactics, and the projection I'm seeing if things continue this way isn't pretty.

Of course, loyalty is an honourable concept to cherish, but there comes a time when a mutual agreement must be met for the betterment of the club. If Wenger cares about Arsenal, he'll consciously accept his self-destructive tendencies which are limiting the club's potential, and he'll honourably step down while he's still admired by a fair majority of the club's fans.

I don't know how Arsenal's administration is structured, so this next bit might sound silly, but whoever happens to be in charge, be it a chairman, or a group of individuals - they'll have to go too. Arsenal will be run exclusively by it's fans, and a select few individuals, preferably those who are from the community and who have a deep understanding of football and finances, will take the role as a representative faction (e.g. presidency, board of directors, etc).

Next, Puma will be boycotted. They either decide to take a genuine interest in aesthetics or Arsenal will cease working with them altogether once their contract expires.

I'll share with you all what next I will decide for this club after the aforementioned events have been finalized.

You are dismissed.
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Bro, I'm not sure how you've come to some of your conclusions, but I'm lost...

I doubt any major European club will ever be run by fans from the local community. Football is now a business, whether we like it or not. It is a romantic concept to think that local roots can hold sway in the modern era, but they cannot. That means you need a board of directors or a chairman, a commercial division etc. All major clubs are run like businesses, they have slightly different approaches, but we're all still business. Behind porn, I'd say football is one of the biggest business of the modern era.

Don't take this next bit as a direct criticism of you, but our fans are the worst. Arsenal fans must be the most fickle, short-sighted fanbase in the league. We are so desperate for gratification in the form of trophies and bragging rights that we can't see the bigger picture, the vision for the future.

I'll admit that as a fan, I've often sat there and thought to myself "why isn't he doing this!? Why is he leaving this guy on the bench/starting this bloke who has done nothing" etc etc But there is no way fans could exclusively manage a club, on an operating level it would be a disaster. And how do you decide which fans get the honour of ballsing it all up? What qualifies fan 'A' over fan 'B'?

I'm not sure how you can boycott Puma, either. They're the new kit manufacturer and have just signed the most lucrative deal in our clubs history. When the contract is up for renewal, we'll see what offer they put on the table and whether or not Nike/Adidas/anyone else wants to try to win us over to them. But football is a business, so trust me, we'll go for the option with the most attractive revenue prospects, regardless of aesthetics, which are completely subjective anyway.

As for Wenger, I think his time is up, which is a shame because he has taken us from being a mid-table club who won a trophy once every 20 years to a major player at the European table, and he did it with style. I don't buy into the whole argument that he is tactically naiive/clueless. That is just tripe spewed out by the media and hack pundits like Paul Merson. He can't properly enunciate the words 'tactically clueless', how am I to believe that he knows so much about tactics?

However, Wenger has lost a large section of the fanbase and I don't think he can ever win them back. Even a UCL win wouldn't appease the WoB. It would be nice for him to go out on a high, winning the league or UCL. He deserves to, after everything he has done for us.

However, this contract extension was more than likely his last. I think there is a successor already lined up and we're just biding time for that person to become available. Wenger might be the last person some of our fans want, but he is what we've got, and who we will have until 2016. My advice to all gooners is to make your peace with that and get behind the team on match day.

The board will not fire Wenger, but I think he will walk away at the end of his current contract. We're just treading water with Wenger at the moment, not sinking, but not swimming with any purpose, either.

The funny thing is, I think we're exactly on par given our expenditure on wages/transfer fees. If you had to rank the top teams on money spent over the past decade (wages and transfer fees), that table would look something like

1. City/Chelsea
2. City/Chelsea
3. Liverpool/Utd
4. Liverpool/Utd

the fact that we've consistently achieved 3rd/4th over the past decade suggests that is exactly where we should be (maybe slightly overachieving), since we weren't competing at the same level in the transfer market.

Anyway, I'm hoping that we can at least support the players on match day, regardless of what people think of the manager's tactics. Protest all you want on the other 6 days of the week, but on match day please keep your negativity at home and bring your positivity to the stadium. The players need it, the club needs it.

cheers
+5
About the fans bit, that's not what I meant. The fans will own the club while a competent individual with background in football and finance will assume presidency. Similar to how Real Madrid is structured. Florentino Perez is Real Madrid's Madrid-born club president.

I was joking about the boycott. However, my opinion of the kit's design, which hardly matters, stands strong.

I'm not a Gunner either.

Everything else you posted is reasonable and understandable.
+1
WENGER OUT NOW!
+4
EBOLA !!!!
+1
Yes wenger out he has had more than enough time and now with jose back in the league we will never win the title again if he stays.
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